DUST Search - You know what....This game is better than you people think it is

Patrick57 wrote:

Fire of Prometheus wrote:

Patrick57 wrote:

Fire of Prometheus wrote:

It's a great game, I agree.

But sometimes it does act like a piece of turd.......

EDIT: after some thought, I have a proper sum of this game,

Ccp set out to build a sports car, but instead they started with a tractor.....eventually they will get were we hope this game is going but only time will tell when it will become enjoyable for a large part of the gaming community.

If the sports car thing sounds familiar, perhaps you have heard of Lamborghini

I do not know why I still play this game, is it the people I have become friends with? Is it the constant urge of wanting to get to that next level of skill? Or is it simply just the fact that this game doesn't solely depend on one person slaying the entire enemy team? Perhaps it's the vehicles (as broken as they may be), I still enjoy flying my incubus and making jokes at the people who become prey to my missile launcher.

Or maybe, it's because I see what this game can become. We want this game to reach its potential, but sometimes it doesn't seem even remotely possible. We know what this game can do, we want to play this game to its full potential. Ccp is just a little slow on carrying out our wishes, they have experience, yes, but not with a console FPS.....let alone a mmo FPS.

We will wait until ccp transforms this tractor into a sports car. They are almost done fixing the engine, now they need to work on the body.

That's a damn good post. I thought you would just leave it at "it does act like a piece of turd......."

I had some time on my hands and it's almost bed time so I decided to out some thought into it.....sadly I still only get an 84 in English class :/

Lol don't feel bad, I don't do too hot either :/

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Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 962	Posted - 2013.10.28 02:17:00 - [31] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: It's a great game, I agree. But sometimes it does act like a piece of turd....... EDIT: after some thought, I have a proper sum of this game, Ccp set out to build a sports car, but instead they started with a tractor.....eventually they will get were we hope this game is going but only time will tell when it will become enjoyable for a large part of the gaming community. If the sports car thing sounds familiar, perhaps you have heard of Lamborghini I do not know why I still play this game, is it the people I have become friends with? Is it the constant urge of wanting to get to that next level of skill? Or is it simply just the fact that this game doesn't solely depend on one person slaying the entire enemy team? Perhaps it's the vehicles (as broken as they may be), I still enjoy flying my incubus and making jokes at the people who become prey to my missile launcher. Or maybe, it's because I see what this game can become. We want this game to reach its potential, but sometimes it doesn't seem even remotely possible. We know what this game can do, we want to play this game to its full potential. Ccp is just a little slow on carrying out our wishes, they have experience, yes, but not with a console FPS.....let alone a mmo FPS. We will wait until ccp transforms this tractor into a sports car. They are almost done fixing the engine, now they need to work on the body. That's a damn good post. I thought you would just leave it at "it does act like a piece of turd......."
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1295	Posted - 2013.10.28 02:19:00 - [32] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: It's a great game, I agree. But sometimes it does act like a piece of turd....... EDIT: after some thought, I have a proper sum of this game, Ccp set out to build a sports car, but instead they started with a tractor.....eventually they will get were we hope this game is going but only time will tell when it will become enjoyable for a large part of the gaming community. If the sports car thing sounds familiar, perhaps you have heard of Lamborghini I do not know why I still play this game, is it the people I have become friends with? Is it the constant urge of wanting to get to that next level of skill? Or is it simply just the fact that this game doesn't solely depend on one person slaying the entire enemy team? Perhaps it's the vehicles (as broken as they may be), I still enjoy flying my incubus and making jokes at the people who become prey to my missile launcher. Or maybe, it's because I see what this game can become. We want this game to reach its potential, but sometimes it doesn't seem even remotely possible. We know what this game can do, we want to play this game to its full potential. Ccp is just a little slow on carrying out our wishes, they have experience, yes, but not with a console FPS.....let alone a mmo FPS. We will wait until ccp transforms this tractor into a sports car. They are almost done fixing the engine, now they need to work on the body. That's a damn good post. I thought you would just leave it at "it does act like a piece of turd......." I had some time on my hands and it's almost bed time so I decided to out some thought into it.....sadly I still only get an 84 in English class :/
hgghyujh expert intervention Caldari State 141	Posted - 2013.10.28 02:22:00 - [33] - Quote this game just started to be playable so yes people still harsh on it a lot. And frankly for good reason it still has a long way to go.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 965	Posted - 2013.10.28 02:23:00 - [34] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: It's a great game, I agree. But sometimes it does act like a piece of turd....... EDIT: after some thought, I have a proper sum of this game, Ccp set out to build a sports car, but instead they started with a tractor.....eventually they will get were we hope this game is going but only time will tell when it will become enjoyable for a large part of the gaming community. If the sports car thing sounds familiar, perhaps you have heard of Lamborghini I do not know why I still play this game, is it the people I have become friends with? Is it the constant urge of wanting to get to that next level of skill? Or is it simply just the fact that this game doesn't solely depend on one person slaying the entire enemy team? Perhaps it's the vehicles (as broken as they may be), I still enjoy flying my incubus and making jokes at the people who become prey to my missile launcher. Or maybe, it's because I see what this game can become. We want this game to reach its potential, but sometimes it doesn't seem even remotely possible. We know what this game can do, we want to play this game to its full potential. Ccp is just a little slow on carrying out our wishes, they have experience, yes, but not with a console FPS.....let alone a mmo FPS. We will wait until ccp transforms this tractor into a sports car. They are almost done fixing the engine, now they need to work on the body. That's a damn good post. I thought you would just leave it at "it does act like a piece of turd......." I had some time on my hands and it's almost bed time so I decided to out some thought into it.....sadly I still only get an 84 in English class :/ Lol don't feel bad, I don't do too hot either :/
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1295	Posted - 2013.10.28 02:24:00 - [35] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: It's a great game, I agree. But sometimes it does act like a piece of turd....... EDIT: after some thought, I have a proper sum of this game, Ccp set out to build a sports car, but instead they started with a tractor.....eventually they will get were we hope this game is going but only time will tell when it will become enjoyable for a large part of the gaming community. If the sports car thing sounds familiar, perhaps you have heard of Lamborghini I do not know why I still play this game, is it the people I have become friends with? Is it the constant urge of wanting to get to that next level of skill? Or is it simply just the fact that this game doesn't solely depend on one person slaying the entire enemy team? Perhaps it's the vehicles (as broken as they may be), I still enjoy flying my incubus and making jokes at the people who become prey to my missile launcher. Or maybe, it's because I see what this game can become. We want this game to reach its potential, but sometimes it doesn't seem even remotely possible. We know what this game can do, we want to play this game to its full potential. Ccp is just a little slow on carrying out our wishes, they have experience, yes, but not with a console FPS.....let alone a mmo FPS. We will wait until ccp transforms this tractor into a sports car. They are almost done fixing the engine, now they need to work on the body. That's a damn good post. I thought you would just leave it at "it does act like a piece of turd......." I had some time on my hands and it's almost bed time so I decided to out some thought into it.....sadly I still only get an 84 in English class :/ Lol don't feel bad, I don't do too hot either :/ IMO, numbers are louder than words....but actions trump all
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 621	Posted - 2013.10.28 02:28:00 - [36] - Quote Everyone who goes into COD know what they are gonna get. They either like it or not, and if not, they pass it by and look the other way. Dust was based on a lot of false advertisement as far as I can tell. That's why it leaves so many ppl mad.
Knight Soiaire Mercenaries of Sunlight 2814	Posted - 2013.10.28 02:29:00 - [37] - Quote Meh.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 968	Posted - 2013.10.28 02:30:00 - [38] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: Meh.
Beforcial REAPERS REPUBLIC 43	Posted - 2013.10.28 03:15:00 - [39] - Quote Give them time man, they just changed their EP. Never played CoD or Battlefield (no i did try the Battlefield 3 open beta) what i did play however under a different name was MAG (which they pulled the plug on or are bout in the next few weeks.) By May next year things will look better with the Fanfest being a major show off part of the year.
Palatinate Unknown Scrubs 4 Hire 62	Posted - 2013.10.28 03:39:00 - [40] - Quote I do believe this game is great! Its better than most games I played and always keeps me entertained. I used to play BF3 but it just got old even with all the expansion packs. But Dust is a evolving game that always ends up changing and making things interesting again. Ill be around till next year and I have a lot of faith in this game. Don't let the haters and QQ's get too y'all CCP, keep giving everything you got and don't give up on this game because it can truly be a masterpiece if the right moves are mad! Fanboy or not this game has my utmost support!

Keri Starlight Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 929	Posted - 2013.10.28 04:10:00 - [41] - Quote There is something wrong with the average gamer's mentality nowadays. I saw terrible games being titled as "Game of the year" even though they have many more game breaking glitches and dumb mechanics than DUST (cough cough Fable2 cough cough). And people saying "OMG this game is amazing!"... seriously? Did some of you guys try to get the Platinum in Assassin's Creed 3? Oh, don't misunderstand, it's good game. But going for the Platinum, you run into some unbelievable bugs. I had to DELETE my entire save file at 93% after two weeks of gameplay and do it all over again because one character disappeared. Not to mention the "Head in the Cloud" trophy OMG! What I'm trying to say is that DUST doesn't deserve to be ridiculized because of some technical issue. About gameplay? For once we have a complex and interesting system and people whine about it. Wow. "I don't want to spend a whole hour just to read the skill descriptions", I've been told... How old are these people? 8? 10? Where are the good "old" gamers? I don't mean "pro gamers", it's not a fact of skills, even a 10 years old kid can be a skilled fps player. I'm talking about MENTALITY. Nowadays, people can't find their own butt without a hint and a minimap! DUST is a serious game. You need half working brain to play it and enjoy it. Is this a bad thing? Sonic The Hedgehog was much more complicated than many recent games. No kidding. I remember (I believe it was Sonic 3, the original Sega title) there was a level where at some point there is some kind of floating barrel and you have to jump and press the directional buttons in a particular pattern to go through it. No one tells you how to do it. And you know what? THOUSAND people got stuck there (...yes me too ) But we didn't quit the game. We squeezed our little brains and we did it. In 1993 there was not the "GOOGLE IT AND WATCH HOW IT'S DONE" option. (Oh oh oh, I found it, there it is lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39HwCcwzbmY) There is a difference in mentality. Graphics? I remember something about choosing a game for its graphics is like choosing that movie for its plot... lol. Last but not least, I see people laughing at DUST because it's F2P. "What? A F2P game? Pffffffffffffff". Well, I'd like to find these people in real life and *****slap them really really hard. It's the same kind of people who judge you because you wear a cheap t-shirt and an unknown pair of jeans. Conclusion: DUST is a good game, because it's unique, interesting and has an incredible potential. Too bad it's running at maybe 20% of its potential and that's what bugs me that much. PS: CCP didn't pay me to say this lol
Niuvo NECROM0NGERS 672	Posted - 2013.10.28 05:48:00 - [42] - Quote The ninja experience is awesome. I hope it will only improve. I use knives and range amplifiers in a scout suit level 5. I really like the game and the forums. I hope the game will get a nice patch and everyone gives a sigh of relief. Then we can play in a balanced arena. You can create a lot of different fittings, I've never been immersed in a game like this. It's tough and rewarding playing against others. We play for keeps because no one likes to see their death screen. I wish they can add a tad, just a tad of gore.
The Eristic Sad Panda Solutions 52	Posted - 2013.10.28 06:32:00 - [43] - Quote Moments of near-greatness and so much potential, but in equal measure, often the most frustrating and infuriating game I've played since the Championship/Football Manager series, though for entirely different reasons.
Sleepy Zan Sumar Gorp 2628	Posted - 2013.10.28 06:36:00 - [44] - Quote Thank you for letting me know I enjoy this game more then I thought I did.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 878	Posted - 2013.10.28 06:40:00 - [45] - Quote With the combo of new rifle ranges, and the chance av will do **** all, I kinda loss faith in the game, ill turn up to check the new maps then just wait until, everything is fixed!
Ulysses Knapse Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 528	Posted - 2013.10.28 07:47:00 - [46] - Quote The guys at CCP are good at what they do. They make a game, and then they continuously improve it. Much better than some other developers, who make a game and then continuously ruin it. Case in point, EVE Online. They've been improving it constantly since it came out in 2003. Take a look at Blizzard's "World of Warcraft". It hasn't been improved, and in fact some would say it's gotten worse.
Shion Typhon Intara Direct Action Caldari State 312	Posted - 2013.10.28 08:09:00 - [47] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: No one else has faith in this game? Why do you still play it then?? For the same reason people slow down and rubberneck at the 10 car pileup, people are fascinated by destruction even when they know they shouldn't be. I'm also a sometimes EVE player so I keep looking in to see if things have improved. I log in for my SP bonus before I load up other games on my PS3 but will probably stop doing that soon. Played less than half a dozen matches since 1.4. Plus I'm a forum rat on many games, passes the time better than reading news sites about the ass state of the world in Real Life..
Void Echo Blades of Dust 1970	Posted - 2013.10.28 08:10:00 - [48] - Quote the thing is. Dust514 is still the best FREE fps on the market right now, where else can you find a free fps with monthly updates from the company that make it that looks as good at this game does?
Ghost Kaisar R 0 N 1 N 687	Posted - 2013.10.28 08:11:00 - [49] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: It's a great game, I agree. But sometimes it does act like a piece of turd....... EDIT: after some thought, I have a proper sum of this game, Ccp set out to build a sports car, but instead they started with a tractor.....eventually they will get were we hope this game is going but only time will tell when it will become enjoyable for a large part of the gaming community. If the sports car thing sounds familiar, perhaps you have heard of Lamborghini I do not know why I still play this game, is it the people I have become friends with? Is it the constant urge of wanting to get to that next level of skill? Or is it simply just the fact that this game doesn't solely depend on one person slaying the entire enemy team? Perhaps it's the vehicles (as broken as they may be), I still enjoy flying my incubus and making jokes at the people who become prey to my missile launcher. Or maybe, it's because I see what this game can become. We want this game to reach its potential, but sometimes it doesn't seem even remotely possible. We know what this game can do, we want to play this game to its full potential. Ccp is just a little slow on carrying out our wishes, they have experience, yes, but not with a console FPS.....let alone a mmo FPS. We will wait until ccp transforms this tractor into a sports car. They are almost done fixing the engine, now they need to work on the body. Agree 100%
Tailss Prower 501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit 119	Posted - 2013.10.28 08:14:00 - [50] - Quote I think I have blind hope or something I may never figure out what draws me back to this game but I still play it even now It's not like I lost faith I just don't fully understand what CCP is trying to do no more is all

Serah Phymne Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 13	Posted - 2013.10.28 09:37:00 - [51] - Quote This is a poor game. Both technically and in implementation. We were promised a full set of dropsuits, basic weapons and racial tank variants 6 months ago. Before that we were promised the ability to move and control the MCC and direct troops on the ground. We've received none of that. Instead we have a badly coded shooter on a very bad engine which has needed 6 months to implement reasonable hit detection. We've seen none of the basic content promised. We're still full to the brim with bugs And we officially released early this year. The "It's just a beta" thing doesn't fly anymore. Worse still is that due to a roadmap that get's rejigged every couple of weeks, nothing gets finished. When you compare that to any other shooter on the market which at a primary point has atleast working hit detection, shows how bad this game is. The ONLY thing this game has going for it is the Eve license. Eve is a great world with awesome design. The fitting system is great but is massively basic since it doesn't lend well to a twitch based shooter and balancing issues with that. This could be a great game. It could be. It isn't right now. And it needs some serious pushes by CCP head office to really get this going. At the moment I think CCP have avowed all knowledge of Dust since they don't mention it anymore. Not to mention the Vegas event was more like a long winded apology and showed nothing of real value other than more broken promises. People like to blame a lot on CCP Jian but you have to remember that this is a company and not just one person. Also to the OP: If you don't want to have a discussion about whether this game is good or not don't post it on a forum and whine about conflicting opinions. Post it on your life journal or something. Otherwise deal with it.
Serah Phymne Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 13	Posted - 2013.10.28 09:40:00 - [52] - Quote Void Echo wrote: the thing is. Dust514 is still the best FREE fps on the market right now, where else can you find a free fps with monthly updates from the company that make it that looks as good at this game does? It's the best free FPS on PS3 maybe. PS2 and Blacklight blow Dust out of the water and are out on PS4 for free later this year and both are free to play on PC right now. The only reason it's the best FPS on the PS3 is because I don't think there are any others.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 982	Posted - 2013.10.28 10:45:00 - [53] - Quote Serah Phymne wrote: Also to the OP: If you don't want to have a discussion about whether this game is good or not don't post it on a forum and whine about conflicting opinions. Post it on your life journal or something. Otherwise deal with it. So, trying to get people to say something good to CCP is whining, but saying that "we were promised a full set of dropsuits" and "this is a poor game" isn't?
George Moros Area 514 146	Posted - 2013.10.28 11:15:00 - [54] - Quote Keri Starlight wrote: There is something wrong with the average gamer's mentality nowadays. I saw terrible games being titled as "Game of the year" even though they have many more game breaking glitches and dumb mechanics than DUST (cough cough Fable2 cough cough). And people saying "OMG this game is amazing!"... seriously? On the topic of "Game of the year", one other shining example of a "brilliant, amazing and whatnot" game is Skyrim. I find it completely unbelievable how people are fascinated with shiny graphics, open world "sandbox" and stuff, but completely ignore the fact that the game's core skill mechanics are so utterly broken that the mind is repelled. The game allows you to develop such insanely OP characters and/or gear, that playing it even on highest difficulty is ridiculously easy. I am even more amazed when I see people here on DUST forums claiming that DUST's RPG skill development mechanic is "broken and outdated", and offer Skyrim's skill mechanics as an example of a good one?! I mean, we're talking about a game for which there are more than enough wiki and guide&walkthrough sites, and literally every one of them says something like this "OK, here's a way to maximize the efficiency of your character, but if you want to have any fun in this game, don't do it". Game of the year? Not in my book.
Serah Phymne Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 14	Posted - 2013.10.28 11:40:00 - [55] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Serah Phymne wrote: Also to the OP: If you don't want to have a discussion about whether this game is good or not don't post it on a forum and whine about conflicting opinions. Post it on your life journal or something. Otherwise deal with it. So, trying to get people to say something good to CCP is whining, but saying that "we were promised a full set of dropsuits" and "this is a poor game" isn't? Lip service doesn't help anyone. It certainly won't fix the situation the game is in. Honest hard truths and options to fix it help. If you want to pat the devs on the back because you think they've done a good job send them a care basket or something. Demanding that people not highlight the obvious problems with the game because you're afraid of hurting CCP's feelings will get us and this game no where. In fact it's probably far more harmful to the game then pointing out it's flaws and asking them to be fixed. edit: Welcome to the adult world.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1150	Posted - 2013.10.28 13:13:00 - [56] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: No one else has faith in this game? Why do you still play it then?? Tons of faith in CCP here. I think the biggest difference between CCP's detractors, who just can't leave ;), and proponents, who see an amazing future ahead of us, is expectations re timescales. It's really a matter of what peeps think an appropriate timescale is and how much peeps modify their expectations for rate of development based on the pioneering nature of our mission here. When pioneering, the name of the game is spending your resources wisely and allotting a certain amount of time/resouces for bactracking, which is a hell of a lot more interesting than just stamping out another cookie-cutter fps, imo, and worth the tribulations we and the devs live with day-in and day-out. The road to New Eden's promised land is paved with deprivation, frustration, rage, hopelessnes and lamentations, mercs. What i'd say to peeps is that CCP has displayed a very coherent set of priorities since about 1.3, and from EVE Vegas we know that we're about to start the real integration process with New Eden. On top of that, Atli has said that the full racial suit content is soon, not soonGäó. The other thing that keeps me going is the knowledge that there's an awful lot of behind-the-scenes plumbing in DUST that other shooter don't need to implement because they're not embedded in a virtual universe with it's own very real and very powerful set of dynamics. When you think that some of the choices being made regarding the EVE-DUST link are the result of stakeholder input from EVE development, DUST development, CSM, CPM, EVE forums and DUST forums it's more than a little mind-boggling. I'm sure the devs feel like they've gotta convene the grand-f***ing council every time they need to change a dropsuit colour. Anyway, that's enough from me. My opinion is that although we're deep in the heart of the battle and there are hunks of charred dropsuit, wrecked Duvolles, smoking brainpan and cerebral design-gore flying everywhere, the CCP/community entity has already won, and soon will be seen to have single-handedly carved out a new and mind-blowing space in the FPS universe. And if ANY of the big shiny pretty-boy FPS design houses think they'd like a piece of that probably-very-lucrative space, well, all i can do is laugh and say 'Come at us, bros.'
Roldrage The Plasma Cannon Doctrine 229	Posted - 2013.10.28 13:21:00 - [57] - Quote They've satisfied my masochistic side with the plasma cannon, oh how I love that gun.
Borne Velvalor Endless Hatred 848	Posted - 2013.10.28 13:24:00 - [58] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Dust is an awesome game. Compare it to COD, where everyone uses the same things just to get more kills. They may not spam grenades as much, or use a Logi as an Assault, but besides all that, DUST is the one of the most immersive games I've ever played. In COD or Battlefield, winning doesn't matter. In Dust, it can decide the entire fate of a Corp. In COD and Battlefield, everyone unlocks everything at the same time. It's always the same. You go through another useless, meaningless rank, and for what? I look forward to just collecting my Passive SP over night! (Almost to Dropsuit Shield/Armor Upgrades 4 :D) You may complain about "this" or "that" being OP, but think about how fast you get dropped in either of the aforementioned games. 3-4 shots will easily kill you. Not to say that Dust doesn't have its own problems (cough cough SHOTGUNS cough cough), but this is the future, SOMETHING has to be OP! I challenge everyone that reads this to make a constructive thread that doesn't criticize CCP, but gives them credit for such an amazing game they've made. :D I came to this from Killzone 3. That game has cloaking, sentry guns, personal drones, scout drones, self revives, ranged revive tools, disguises, etcetera. You chose what class to invest in and, specifically, what weapons and skills to upgrade, although on a simpler level than Dust 514. That game was pretty fun, but it got boring when I could just cloak and dagger/silenced machine pistol everyone as a Marksman. Dust is slower paced, the maps are bigger and there's vehicles, even if I whine about how vehicles are OP or UP in different ways. The TTKs are slower, even if ARs with damage mods can drop most enemies in 1-2 seconds. I like the progression, even if the active cap is kind of low and there are a lot of SP sinks for negligible benefit. It's not all bad, but it's not all it was cracked up to be yet. Maybe it will be one day. I don't know.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1151	Posted - 2013.10.28 13:52:00 - [59] - Quote Dachande Anasazi wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: Patrick57 wrote: No one else has faith in this game? Why do you still play it then?? It's free? Lol reason I play..plus it is mmo so I make new friends..Plus I am thinking about Eve now... I think this gameis just marketing for eve. I would've said that 5 years ago. Now i think of it as marketing for New Eden. And as a portal....
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 166	Posted - 2013.10.28 14:38:00 - [60] - Quote Patrick, +1 for the positive thread... I echo many of your thoughts on the game. Why do I play? It's a very immersive game and is part of an incredibley fleshed out game and fiction world (if you care to look). The creative or novel approach of building a linked, cross-platform, cross-genre game is actually pretty visionary on CCPs part. The fact that they can make those connections and appear to have the fortitude to map things over the course of years and not months is pretty rare, particularly in the frenetic world of gaming where everyone is looking for the next "FOTM" game. I keep playing because of the people I play with and we have a blast playing even with the bugs, glitches, and game rage. Also, I feel that with every patch or hotfix I'm seeing an incredible product taking shape...it's still maturing but there are tangible improvements on a regular basis. General thoughts on CCP game direction (stream of conciousness following...) If you compare Dust to CoD or BF4 as direct competitors then it doesn't hold a candle. I think that's a false comparison that a lot of new players make since they equate it to a F2P FPS. It is a FPS but when you look at the macro levels and the design outcomes that CCP is using to guide development it's much more than that. The game isn't a AAA polished shooter with a linear, 10hr PVE camgaign and lobby for PVP and at the moment that's actually ok. CCP is working on being better by being different and I for one like that a lot. The eye candy of varsity FPS games is pretty awesome, but ultimately it's more of the same and Dust definetly isn't that. CCP started with the outcome or endstate of what they wanted the game to be... very similar to the concept of Design in architecture or how the US Army conducts strategic planning (believe it or not there's a lot of academic crossover). I strongly suspect that desired outcome wasn't "be the best FPS on the PS3/4". I think if you look at the recent CCP comments about their long term vision for PC and FW you are getting a glimpse at what the actual desired outcome is for Dust and they started with that same idea way back when the idea for Dust first surfaced and have been moving towards ever since. My impression is that they knew / know what they want but are going through the growing pains of finding out how to get their and again, that's ok. The average AAA FPS producer knows their product really has a lifespan measured in a few months until the next big thing hits then their numbers drop dramatically. CCP is for the most part disregarding that and focusing on much longer range goals. How many play EVE globally on a consistent basis? I've heard numbers around 30+ million and even higher. Once EVE is fully incentivized to incorporate Dust actions (CCP vision for PC and FW) Dust will likely become two things simultaneously... 1) a pretty nifty FPS with tie into a real meta-game; and 2) The most well developed mini-game and/or alternate playmode for EVE you can imagine. Just think, let's say 5yrs from now 1% of EVE players also particpate in Dust and take full advantage of it in addition to other folks downloading it that have never heard of EVE. The folks they are going to want to pay to take planets aren't going to be going to the random fly-by-night gamer clans or unkown Corps. It will be people like us...the few thousand that were here now and have the means and the muscle to deliver on contracts. Just my thoughts...



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