I just love it when a high tier HAV gets deployed in a public match where no one has proto AV. I enjoy seeing the whole team swap between AV and AI weaponry as the pilot recalls and repairs his diamond encrusted brick in five seconds only to redeploy it 30 seconds later.

I just love it when I have someone absolutely beaten, they get to supply depot and tadaaaaa!!!

a cooldown should be installed. if you recall a vehicle, that should be a commitment that you're not calling anything in for a minute or two.

a cooldown should be installed. if you recall a vehicle, that should be a commitment that you're not calling anything in for a minute or two.

that's probably too strong. 45 seconds.

A cooldown at supply depots should be installed, if you have taken damage in the last minute or two, suit swap is prohibitted.

I actually agree with this, no sarcasm. Swapping suits is actually a pretty big annoyance when the enemy team does it a lot, although I find HAV redeploys much more annoying.

A cooldown at supply depots should be installed, if you have taken damage in the last minute or two, suit swap is prohibitted.

Then you would agree with a cooldown between swapping suits at supply depots right?

It would be nice to lock infantry into AV gear, then I could just retreat and let my infantry mop them up.

I only recall to swap turrets, most of my underlying fits are the same, just sometimes you need a rail for cowards on rooftops, or a blaster for the running men on the ground, or missiles for a set of enemy armor tanks.

Telling me that I have to wait 45 seconds to adapt to the situation is kind of meh. Besides, who wouldn't do what the smart pilots do now anyway, which is call in your new vehicle before you recall.

Most the time you can gank the tank before it lands, or kill the driver.

We had a fatty the other night who wouldn't go further than 15m from the supply depot, if his HP was touched he came back brand new very fast, as soon as we destroyed his precious, I took his proto ass out with a toxin SMG and drgonfly scout loool.

Personally I do not think a tank should be able to recall for 30 seconds since the last real* damage taken.

*Real meaning damage not sniper or AR rounds..

A cooldown at supply depots should be installed, if you have taken damage in the last minute or two, suit swap is prohibitted.

Then you would agree with a cooldown between swapping suits at supply depots right?

It would be nice to lock infantry into AV gear, then I could just retreat and let my infantry mop them up.

I only recall to swap turrets, most of my underlying fits are the same, just sometimes you need a rail for cowards on rooftops, or a blaster for the running men on the ground, or missiles for a set of enemy armor tanks.

Telling me that I have to wait 45 seconds to adapt to the situation is kind of meh. Besides, who wouldn't do what the smart pilots do now anyway, which is call in your new vehicle before you recall.

Supply Depots need better mechanics.

- A cooldown period of say, 15 seconds for full health suits.
- You must have max shields to swap suits (negates the swap to save a life)

They should make it so that you only get one swap per life, then the rest makes you lose the suit you swap out of.

Like how it was in 1.0

also can we let swarmers lock onto forge gunners.

1.6:
supply depot will now only be accepting suits that have been deployed for longer than 1 minute, and full shield
Tanks can only be recalled 30 seconds after last real damage taken.
Swarmers now lock onto heavies with forgeguns.
Scout speed increased by 2
Active scanners locked to scouts.
Logi's L slot swapped for S slot.

They should make it so that you only get one swap per life, then the rest makes you lose the suit you swap out of.

Like how it was in 1.0

that wouldn't be too bad. to limit the number of swaps per clone.

I just love it when a high tier HAV gets deployed in a public match where no one has proto AV. I enjoy seeing the whole team swap between AV and AI weaponry as the pilot recalls and repairs his diamond encrusted brick in five seconds only to redeploy it 30 seconds later.

I don not think that we need to stop the amount of suit swaps, vehicle recalls. It's more about situation and timing.
So for vehicles; No recall if you have taken damage within last 30 seconds. If you recall a damaged tank, time penalty 0f X is added to redeployment.
For suits; Supply depot will not replace a damaged suit, suit recreation time 10 seconds, as if you were respawning.

Can you briefly describe why 1.0 favoured the defenders so much please.

Anyone?

Well, unless you had someone with a decent rail HAV, it didn't. It was the other way around actually.

Oh, OK thanks, why did it favour the attackers so much.

Oh, OK thanks, why did it favour the attackers so much.

The fact that you lost your suit when you swapped meant that you had to sacrifice to make the change. This was easy enough for PC given the payout but for pub matches you risked going negative ISK wise so many would not bother.

I still say that not requiring an RDV to actually come and pick it up is dumb. I'm having an even harder time understanding why people say that would be unfair or bad.

I mean, you used to have to just lose your vehicle. Now that anyone talks about having a risk factor involved in recalling them, they flip out?

The current mechanic is dumb and broken, and basically allows you to recall a damaged vehicle within maybe 10-20 meters of the people trying to destroy it if you just back around a corner or a rock.

Recalling a vehicle should have an RDV spawn in and pick the vehicle up. This means that the recall cannot be safely used in close proximity to AV players, requiring the operator to move their vehicle far enough away that they can do the recall safely.

I think the new Swarm Launcher lock range of 175m as opposed to 400m makes this a more than reasonable suggestion. Keep in mind that they are also reducing the damage of AV grenades and have mentioned going over the Forge Gun.

Do you even know what we're talking about?

That sounds fking brilliant, iv always preferred progressive game modes, they should tweak it and bring it back for fw and PC but keep pubs simple, I'm going to make a threadf about that.

I was responding to Tech's question about how the supply depot mechanics of 1.0 played into the attacker/defender relationship. Did you actually read previous posts about it or just felt like jumping on my post to sound superior?

We tried, but CCP said they can't.

A fk, I just made a very reasonable thread by my standards in feedback

I made 10 mil in a match losing, and suits were even cheaper than now. How exactly did you lose ISK from just one suit? Plus, The spawns were close to the action, and the RDV's weren't stupid, so getting back to the fight was easy.

Wait, think we need a point of clarification here. Are you talking about Uprising 1.0 or Skirmish 1.0? I was under the impression that we were talking about Uprising 1.0 where you lost your suit if you swapped out at a supply depot.

A cooldown at supply depots should be installed, if you have taken damage in the last minute or two, suit swap is prohibitted.

Logi's L slot swapped for S slot.