Mr. Machine gun, was it not you the other day that sent me a message saying, nice shot. I then TY and went on my way. I use the Thale because it is by far the best sniper rifle. I also use the Kaal, but its not my style to pump round after round into someone and watch them walk or run off. I use the Thale because it does its job, it kills clean and efficient. I am only one person using a weapon to kill my target. The match I speak of was three squads, tanks, and DS to counter some randoms. Do you see the difference, I one player using a single weapon vs. 3 squads, tanks, and DS's. Also that same group had snipers overlooking the red line, to pick off anyone who cloned in.

i also said really? meaning you using a thales in a pub match. No you use the thales because it the most powerful rifle in the game

whats a pub stomp?

First off if my team is doing this, I stay at the objective and guard it. I have morals and I believe in fair game play. The fact that most defend proto stomping from one side of there mouth and then the other they are all about making this game fair and balanced is BS.

I am so sick of the "stop proto stomp" threads....

here's your solution... grind week after week saving sp so you can get your own...

regardless of your rebuttal to this the fact remains, those who have proto gear did exactly this and deserve to bathe in your militia wearing bloody remains...

you want the proto without all the work spend aur and get an equivalent...

you don't like that idea? then refer to suggestion 1...

don't like either suggestion... squad up and work together to bring the protos down, or once you realize its a stomp, leave the match and find greener pastures to frolic in with your basic gear.

its part of the game as it stands now and unless ccp deigns to change it these threads are nothing more then QQ for the tears ocean.

OP I realize you have proto gear, this is just my anti rant to the pub stomp rants, and quite honestly your corp does its fair share of stomping... I suggest you squad with them...

This is turning into a problem. That's the draw back of having a game that's ongoing. When you're forced to either protostomp yourself, or be protostomped it turns the game into not fun.

There's no use in even staying in the match anymore. Because if you turn to using Free Starter Fits, then you might as well leave, because you're still not going to obtain any WP. You might as well chalk up to forgoing the ISK and Bonus SP to not wanting to be dead, bored, and annoyed all the time.

I know it's the right for everyone to protostomp, but why are these corps doing it so much? Obviously Nyain San is the most guilty at doing this, and it gets annoying. Even when you do good against them (because they individual are very bad players, including Milkman and Addict) it's still not any fun. Playing a pub with the awareness and tryhardness of a P/C battle is not fun for anyone involved. Its to easy against noobs, and you have nothing to feel good about afterwards. I shouldn't have to break out the Proto gear just to hold my current expectations against 6 guys that are taking the game so seriously. You can achieve the same scores with Standard equipment, but they don't want to leave any room for error; they depend on it. So, if I beat back the Squads of Protostompers, and finish with my regular top score, I worked to darn hard to really appreciate it. I'm to much in tryhard mode to really take the fun away form the match.


And as far as match making goes... what's to stop a vet player from making an alt and going into easy lobbies and still stomping. You already have people making alts to go into the Academy and using AURUM gear to protostomp...

The DUST playerbase are nothing but scrubs that couldn't cut it on other titles, so they banded up on a game that has less than 5000 active players so they could finally be the big fish in a small pond like they always dreamed of...

Funny thing is, all these pubstompers started the game the same time as everyone else 2 years ago, so they never had to deal with the problem. They got to come up the ranks parrel with everyone else. They got in the door first, and aren't budging on their ability to destroy noobs. None of them could start a new character and play it solo for 4 weeks straight and expect to not just go back to using their main character, because they wouldn't stand for it either. Even with the knowledge of the game they have. Heck, you find a solo Nyain San player NEVER at the top of a pub lobby leaderboard...

This is seriously the worst thing I have ever read. omg my eyes have cancer now.


CCP hired an inexperienced skeleton crew to "design" this game. I put the word "design" into quotes because i'm using it sarcastically. I'm using that word sarcastically because they have overlooked the most obvious, gamebreaking mechanics and it is ruining player retention.

Like seriously, who's idea was it to allow 20mil SP vets to compete with lol1200 wp academy "graduates"?

quite honestly if the QQers who cried about proto stomping 3 or 4 months ago were still playing they would be in proto gear as well, but a lot of the people who have played or do play this game lack the patients to grind it out the way the vets have.

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Its just continuing the vicious cycle . Its not going to fix the problem ...It just mean I'm not being stomped.
I think your missing the big picture here.

Why am I going to waste time on a game to be the guy stomping instead of being stomped , When I was just complaining about it . Where's the fun? .... What's the point?

To me it's not fun to be so powerful compared to your opponent they dont even pose a threat .
You might as well go play a singleplayer game , throw some cheats on and comp stomp ....What the diff?
I want a challenge , most do . This game is just level to the point you get to be the stomper ....

I can see it now the new advertising campaign:
Dust 514 : One war one universe ..... Level up and you too can stomp the few noobs that trickle through!

Just was in a Domination match were Nyain San and Geisha girls were fully stacked on one side, my side were random blueberries. I came late into the battle as the team was already red lined and was being hit by an orbital as I cloned in. I say our shields were at 50% and there's not even a scratch. I was trying to push out of the red line and was met by a squad of proto's and 2 DS. Thanks to CCP taking away the war barge, I did not have time to prepare for this. No idea who the team or teams I was facing or was teamed up with and this puts you at a disadvantage. I am all for quick game play, but there should be a way to tell if you are going to be facing a proto stomping team.


I came in at 3rd place with just 2 kills 1 death with 215 WP. The highest on our team was 332. First time I died I came in with my proto to counter them and was then met with a tank and 2 LAV's and more DS. I then switched over to SL to counter the tank that was now camping our red line with three squads of proto A** Holes. By the time I fired my first volley they had destroyed our only supply depot. Now I was stuck running SL and was unable to switch fits.They were not satisfied by red lining a team and began to drive there tank and LAVs into our red line.


WTF when do you say I won and sit at the objective and see if the other team can counter you. In my opinion Nyain San is a weak corp and have to pub stomp to feel good about themselves. CCP this is also your fault for allowing two corps to proto stomp on some randoms.

So my question is, should I along with several ringers run Nyain San into the ground and teach them a lesson or should I just walk away from this and shake my fist at CCP?

Played a match today, was a Skirmish, and the entire other team was proto stomping, we actualy where able to hold the majority of the objectives, and where killing a few of them, but even tho their MMC was in half armor and ours was in half shields we lost on clones. Why? Because CCP lets entire proto teams pair up against none proto teams, then the proto teams play skirmish like ambush and they completely ignore the objectives, defeating the purpous of strategic play. Clone counts are just there to enable proto stomping teams to farm kills.

Those vets didn't have to grind while playing against hoards of protostompers...
I promise that if any of those vets were to start new today, they would quit too.
Since it takes about 3 months of religious play in DUST 514 to be equal in terms of gear and actual in-game experience, nobody is going to stick around for that if they only get 200 WP/game because they are getting slaughtered by scrubs who pick on noobs. All the while, those protostompers are only getting even higher on the mountain, to the point were they don't even need to spend their SP, because they've hit the limit for whatever their role is.

Now that HAVs are becoming more frequent (because the playerbase is finishing off there infantry characters and is moving into HAVs with there SP) the problem will only get worse. DUST is a game for a very niche audience. The religious gamer who plays a game to an obsession. You have to devote so much to DUST in order to be on top of the mountain, and because of the small playerbase, everyone can see the summit, so everyone exploits everything this game has offer to reach it.

The narrower the playerbase gets, the less the game will survive. DUST is already losing money hand-over-fist... making a game that only benefits less than .1% of the gamer population is a futile effort. At this rate, DUST will be scrapped, unless they figure out a whole new system to bring in more money.

Even if all DUST players spent $50/mo in AURUM, DUST would still be losing money. Broken mechanics is one thing, but to add the scrub player base on top of it? Its no wonder they won't even make the game for PS4... they can't afford to (You have to pay Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft, etc for your game to be made for their console).