first off it is not a player fault for using the gear he earned.

second if their is an issue it is the responsibility of the developers to deal with it.

third and most importantly gear is the least of the reason new players lose to vets, more often then not blaming gear is just the crutch, so get off the forums and stop bitching about it.

Yes congratulations you can kill kittens using a sledgehammer but enough is enough

Don't you infringe on my right to smash kittens with sledgehammers!

Just try using something else once in a while, it's more fun if you give them a chance :P

First off you didn't read my entire post because I addressed the whole its their gear they can do what they want argument AND the it's CCP fault only argument so go back and READ the post before using your weak assed arguments

how can you expect people to wait months to get their proto gear and not use it.

They can use it in PC and FW ... seeing as both of those things are more than just mess around games .. LP is going to be introduced for FW soon TM and PC you're fighting over land .. my issue isn;t with the use of proto full stop its the use of proto in mess around games

It's the academy and match makings fault. Keep people in academy longer or make matchmaking actually put people against you with similar SP totals or something.

Constantly running full proto in pubgames ?

You should be given a reward as the biggest reason why new players quit this game, seriously everyone show your appreciation by joining me in a very slow clap


*Clap*


-I don't mind you doing it v us, you lose a hell of a lot of ISK when you come up against us in ADV gear but when it comes to people new out of the academy being steamrolled by 6 people in full proto in top tier vehicles with proto mods its overkill

-Yes congratulations you can kill kittens using a sledgehammer but enough is enough, try using ADV once in a while or go do your protoscrubbing in FW/PC v other people using proto .. it begs the question .. is the only reason you can get kills because your in proto v new players and when you're up against people at your level you get decimated ?

-Yes yes it's their gear, their ISK they can do what they want but if that means sacrificing 10,000 potential players just so they can have a few minutes redlining the opposition is it really worth it ?

-CCP if you are so intent on bug fixes etc over adding new content then do something about the protostomping in pubgames it's out of hand and is seriously damaging your game, every single review i've looked at of this game says the same thing ... it's about as attractive a game to play for a new player as it is to slam your head with a car door .. Yes I know someone will say HTFU New Eden is tough ... but this kind of tough is the equivalent of putting a new born baby in a forest in alaska and leaving it there to survive saying HTFU ...


-WTF aren't the only people who do this however most of the other corps that have a tendency to run full proto do most of it in FW/PC and have actually be seen using non proto gear in pub games ..

-I get told it's CCP fault for having a broken system however it isn;t just the fault of the people who have the broken system it's also the fault of the people who abuse that system too and just because you can protostomp doesn't mean it's okay to do so. I can technically sleep with your wife does that mean it's fine if I do so because their is no rule against it ??

TL;DR If enough people put down their protogear in pubgames and point and laugh at those that don't then maybe one day Pubgames will be fun for all and not just another medium for the guys with sucky lives to feel important

your right I didn't read it all, kind of expected a rant thread to continue being a rant thread.

you mentioned the fact that it's their gear but I do disagree with what you said, first off to take your sarcastic comment literally you are accusing WTF of being the sole users of proto gear resulting in 10000 people quitting of which you have no evidence and If I don't take your sarcastic comment literally then how can I base any honest debate on it.

second a large majority of the game uses proto gear in pub matches, and more often then not it's required to win games as players on the opposite side will be doing the same.

you cannot blame players for playing the game as it is intended you need to blame the developers for not addressing it sooner.

players can and should be able to use what ever they feel like as this game is a sandbox style shooter where you build the fits and spend the isk to use them. there is no point in proto gear existing if we cannot use it, and the number of PC matches is minor for some, and FW is nothing more then fancy pub matches

Man I am close to giving Top Man a reward for Biggest Forum Whining Eva (BFWE)

Seriously its like every other post with you guys

Man I am close to giving Top Man a reward for Biggest Forum Whining Eva (BFWE)

Seriously its like every other post with you guys

Constantly running full proto in pubgames ?

You should be given a reward as the biggest reason why new players quit this game, seriously everyone show your appreciation by joining me in a very slow clap


*Clap*


-I don't mind you doing it v us, you lose a hell of a lot of ISK when you come up against us in ADV gear but when it comes to people new out of the academy being steamrolled by 6 people in full proto in top tier vehicles with proto mods its overkill

-Yes congratulations you can kill kittens using a sledgehammer but enough is enough, try using ADV once in a while or go do your protoscrubbing in FW/PC v other people using proto .. it begs the question .. is the only reason you can get kills because your in proto v new players and when you're up against people at your level you get decimated ?

-Yes yes it's their gear, their ISK they can do what they want but if that means sacrificing 10,000 potential players just so they can have a few minutes redlining the opposition is it really worth it ?

-CCP if you are so intent on bug fixes etc over adding new content then do something about the protostomping in pubgames it's out of hand and is seriously damaging your game, every single review i've looked at of this game says the same thing ... it's about as attractive a game to play for a new player as it is to slam your head with a car door .. Yes I know someone will say HTFU New Eden is tough ... but this kind of tough is the equivalent of putting a new born baby in a forest in alaska and leaving it there to survive saying HTFU ...


-WTF aren't the only people who do this however most of the other corps that have a tendency to run full proto do most of it in FW/PC and have actually be seen using non proto gear in pub games ..

-I get told it's CCP fault for having a broken system however it isn;t just the fault of the people who have the broken system it's also the fault of the people who abuse that system too and just because you can protostomp doesn't mean it's okay to do so. I can technically sleep with your wife does that mean it's fine if I do so because their is no rule against it ??

TL;DR If enough people put down their protogear in pubgames and point and laugh at those that don't then maybe one day Pubgames will be fun for all and not just another medium for the guys with sucky lives to feel important

WTF were a MAG clan and were kinda trashy, their only "good" players were quick and lagged quite a bit.

If I played them back when I was actually really good at the game, they would have gotten smashed.
Especially VS my clan which was after MAG died down but had 3C, R*S and random beasty members in it...

So it pisses me off every time I see them in DUST, if they didn't have their gear they would get walked on.
That's not saying I find them impossible to deal with. Just that on a level playing field it would be a different story.

how can you expect people to wait months to get their proto gear and not use it.

Constantly running full proto in pubgames ?

You should be given a reward as the biggest reason why new players quit this game, seriously everyone show your appreciation by joining me in a very slow clap


*Clap*


-I don't mind you doing it v us, you lose a hell of a lot of ISK when you come up against us in ADV gear but when it comes to people new out of the academy being steamrolled by 6 people in full proto in top tier vehicles with proto mods its overkill

-Yes congratulations you can kill kittens using a sledgehammer but enough is enough, try using ADV once in a while or go do your protoscrubbing in FW/PC v other people using proto .. it begs the question .. is the only reason you can get kills because your in proto v new players and when you're up against people at your level you get decimated ?

-Yes yes it's their gear, their ISK they can do what they want but if that means sacrificing 10,000 potential players just so they can have a few minutes redlining the opposition is it really worth it ?

-CCP if you are so intent on bug fixes etc over adding new content then do something about the protostomping in pubgames it's out of hand and is seriously damaging your game, every single review i've looked at of this game says the same thing ... it's about as attractive a game to play for a new player as it is to slam your head with a car door .. Yes I know someone will say HTFU New Eden is tough ... but this kind of tough is the equivalent of putting a new born baby in a forest in alaska and leaving it there to survive saying HTFU ...


-WTF aren't the only people who do this however most of the other corps that have a tendency to run full proto do most of it in FW/PC and have actually be seen using non proto gear in pub games ..

-I get told it's CCP fault for having a broken system however it isn;t just the fault of the people who have the broken system it's also the fault of the people who abuse that system too and just because you can protostomp doesn't mean it's okay to do so. I can technically sleep with your wife does that mean it's fine if I do so because their is no rule against it ??

TL;DR If enough people put down their protogear in pubgames and point and laugh at those that don't then maybe one day Pubgames will be fun for all and not just another medium for the guys with sucky lives to feel important

I have this to say. why cant i use proto gear against weaker enemies. Because its unfair? warfare is all about getting all of the advantages and giving the enemy none. Dust 514 is not a sports game so stop treating it like one. Also who the hell are you to compare sleeping with another mans wife * which is wrong no matter what* to pubstomping in a video game which is not real. Its a game about war stop saying pubstomping is wrong because its not. Your an enemy and i want you dead in the worst way possible. Either suck it up or leave the battle.

Effective match making is a pipe dream. It would require an actual active player base. Any more attempts at segregation will only increase wait times as every day there are fewer players to segregate. It's an issue yes, it's also an issue that is only relevant when there are more people playing. Consider it a first world issue that cod and bf4 have to deal with, you as a dust player live in Somalia.

I see that someone slept with your wife xD ... You deserved it and actually if you treated her badly which clearly you did (You get kicks out of protostomping new players so I know the type of person you are already) then her sleeping with someone else is justified to quote you ... HTFU

PS .. LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Your wife cheated on you .. hahahaha .. hahahahahahahaha.. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA laugh at the loser who protostomps because his wife cheated on him .. lol

It took me a little while to figure out that you are a troll. im in school. Explain to me how i have a wife again? Reporting this post for really nasty trolling.

The whole point of dust is that lower lvls can fight higher lvls. Thats the point if everything is fair like sports than it will just get boring. std vs std adv vs adv pro vs pro. That would get so boring so fast because every one will always know what to expect. This unexpected match making requires you to make careful decisions when making suits and causes you to always stay on your feet as you will never know when a proto demon will turn the corner. And if he does will you be ready for him or will he eat you alive?

Well in that case children should be seen and not heard, take your opinions and put them in a little box and hand them to me when you hit 18, until then anything you say is pointless ...

Funny that you freely give it out but run off crying when someone gives it back to you honestly it's pathetic

Your knowledge of war is moronic, Did you know that 95% of all soldiers don;t actually want to kill their enemy or hate their enemy ? They don't go to war because they want to, they go to war because it's part of their job ! There are plenty of examples of soldiers purposefully missing because they didn;t want to kill and plenty of examples of soldiers who are haunted to this day about the people they have killed, anyone who delights in the killing of others is scum

My problem with WTF isn't the proto, but the constant grenade spam and Rapid fire Mass Driving they do. Altough I can't blame them for trying to make up for their lack of gungame.

stroke your KDr today!

engage in protostomping and make sure you call in no less than 3 tanks, they won't know what hit them.

Just remember: kdr is everything, don't you ever think otherwise

Man I am close to giving Top Man a reward for Biggest Forum Whining Eva (BFWE)

Seriously its like every other post with you guys

Lack of gun game. what the hell do you play war games for? to entertain the enemy team? wtf is a very smart corp. They know the best way to defeat the enemy and without so much as losing a hand full of isk.

XD anyway if your that upset about it I blame Scotty The AI, SP Cap & Fear of the proto stomp can be fixed in 1 very simple way - Put people with the same area of lifetime SP in matches together, noobs with noobs, veterans vs veterans, bad @$$es vs bad @$$es, & the reason I find most people quit is because they don't stick with it long enough, very simple also if you work a year or months yes I plan to use that protogear like everyone plans to with theirs.....

I want to give Molden Heath Police Department the award for most douche bag corp in the game(MDBCITG) but hey....all of us have our own opinions.

Im waiting on my protosuit 3 weeks to go but ill still be using ADV in pub games and saving proto for FW LP / PC ...

But yeah matchmaking is absolutely awful, if these guys were put up against other protosquads they'd soon revert to using ADV in pub games .. the reason they run proto is because they know they are likely to be against non proto peeps on the other side and get easy kills and this is why I have such an issue with it

You can't have effective matchmaking with this small amount of players. Matchmaking requires a large active playerbase to be effective.

Constantly running full proto in pubgames ?

You should be given a reward as the biggest reason why new players quit this game, seriously everyone show your appreciation by joining me in a very slow clap


*Clap*


-I don't mind you doing it v us, you lose a hell of a lot of ISK when you come up against us in ADV gear but when it comes to people new out of the academy being steamrolled by 6 people in full proto in top tier vehicles with proto mods its overkill

-Yes congratulations you can kill kittens using a sledgehammer but enough is enough, try using ADV once in a while or go do your protoscrubbing in FW/PC v other people using proto .. it begs the question .. is the only reason you can get kills because your in proto v new players and when you're up against people at your level you get decimated ?

-Yes yes it's their gear, their ISK they can do what they want but if that means sacrificing 10,000 potential players just so they can have a few minutes redlining the opposition is it really worth it ?

-CCP if you are so intent on bug fixes etc over adding new content then do something about the protostomping in pubgames it's out of hand and is seriously damaging your game, every single review i've looked at of this game says the same thing ... it's about as attractive a game to play for a new player as it is to slam your head with a car door .. Yes I know someone will say HTFU New Eden is tough ... but this kind of tough is the equivalent of putting a new born baby in a forest in alaska and leaving it there to survive saying HTFU ...


-WTF aren't the only people who do this however most of the other corps that have a tendency to run full proto do most of it in FW/PC and have actually be seen using non proto gear in pub games ..

-I get told it's CCP fault for having a broken system however it isn;t just the fault of the people who have the broken system it's also the fault of the people who abuse that system too and just because you can protostomp doesn't mean it's okay to do so. I can technically sleep with your wife does that mean it's fine if I do so because their is no rule against it ??

TL;DR If enough people put down their protogear in pubgames and point and laugh at those that don't then maybe one day Pubgames will be fun for all and not just another medium for the guys with sucky lives to feel important

You can't have effective matchmaking with this small amount of players. Matchmaking requires a large active playerbase to be effective.

Here i am !!!!!
Seriously that's REALLY funny.

In public matches i got Advanced (Basic) stuff sometime. (40000 ISK per fit and 60% of it are equipements).
And i stomp ennemies like in protos.
It's about skill.
I got the same result in Proto than in advanced everything is about risk.
I see 4 ennemies.
In advanced i'm gonne rush them take them out and then dance on their body.
In proto i know if i fail it's over i'm gonna play tactically using everything i have to stay alive.


People you see "proto-stomping" you so easily.
I'm sure they could use Advanced and do the same.
But they got money they use a lot of time to get proto to get what they wished.
They got what they wished and the money to use it.
Why they should use anything else ?

In public i got kill by these f*cking murder taxi of death.
And i prefer be killed by proto stuff.
Than by a dragonfly user using Insdestructible Yellow jeep (3 C-7 flux can't even destroy the shield of an charybdis...).
Or using BPO suit agains and again without any risk of lose.

Using proto stuff means a lot of risk.
They can't fail because it will ruin their game.
That's why they play good with no mercy.
I prefer be killed by someone who gots balls and play with it.
Than some Low-risk player who don't want to play.


We'll see when you have unlocked proto and Complex stuff.
YOU WILL USE THEM.
Don't tell me you're gonna unlock them buy them and then...play in basic all the time it's a LIE.

Here i am !!!!!
Seriously that's REALLY funny.

In public matches i got Advanced (Basic) stuff sometime. (40000 ISK per fit and 60% of it are equipements).
And i stomp ennemies like in protos.
It's about skill.
I got the same result in Proto than in advanced everything is about risk.
I see 4 ennemies.
In advanced i'm gonne rush them take them out and then dance on their body.
In proto i know if i fail it's over i'm gonna play tactically using everything i have to stay alive.


People you see "proto-stomping" you so easily.
I'm sure they could use Advanced and do the same.
But they got money they use a lot of time to get proto to get what they wished.
They got what they wished and the money to use it.
Why they should use anything else ?

In public i got kill by these f*cking murder taxi of death.
And i prefer be killed by proto stuff.
Than by a dragonfly user using Insdestructible Yellow jeep (3 C-7 flux can't even destroy the shield of an charybdis...).
Or using BPO suit agains and again without any risk of lose.

Using proto stuff means a lot of risk.
They can't fail because it will ruin their game.
That's why they play good with no mercy.
I prefer be killed by someone who gots balls and play with it.
Than some Low-risk player who don't want to play.


We'll see when you have unlocked proto and Complex stuff.
YOU WILL USE THEM.
Don't tell me you're gonna unlock them buy them and then...play in basic all the time it's a LIE.

how can you expect people to wait months to get their proto gear and not use it.

I keep getting worked over, I need you to be more gentle.

I run proto gear in all matches, sue me. I can decimate your face off just as easily with a STD suit, but my proto gear carries more equipment, have you got a problem with that? It seems to me that this is just a butthurt post about getting protostomped, CCP made this game take months of grinding to get proto, do you really expect people not to use it?

Here's the dirty secret, power doesn't come from proto gear, it comes from the communication and grouping done by the people who just happen to take their proto gear into matches. You're getting squadstomped, not protostomped.

Yes I do have a problem with arrogance, much like the performance that you are giving the lot of us. I am glad that stroking your e-peen is of such a priority to you, that working on developing, cultivating, and maintaining a community, specifically this community, must come last to the ingratiation of your own over inflated ego.

IGÇÖll keep that in mind for future reference.

My issue is self-centerd attitudes. I am primarily concerned with a functional and flourishing community, not stroking my electronic cack.

Top Men not Top Man ,,,, Man is singular Men is plural .. calling an alliance Top Man would only make sense if there was only 1 person in it .. I know your a R E T A R D but you just went full R E T A R D

PS Aim at me not the Alliance, this is me making a point .. I know you like to wave your EPEEN around but you're a nobody just like me only difference is that I know it and you're too deluded to know it

When I aim at people, I go for multi kills.


^
This remark just lost you a district, wanna go for seconds

I made the same type of thread about Nyain San... it mysteriously got deleted off the board...

That being said, What the French haven't been a problem in a looooooooooong time. They are crap players. If they were half-way decent, then they would be a more respectable corp...
I don't worry when I see them in the game anymore, not since I was a noob.

Nyain San thought... those are the guys you should be mad at. Cheap exploits over actual good play.

I made the same type of thread about Nyain San... it mysteriously got deleted off the board...

That being said, What the French haven't been a problem in a looooooooooong time. They are crap players. If they were half-way decent, then they would be a more respectable corp...
I don't worry when I see them in the game anymore, not since I was a noob. Of course back then, I feared any known team, or 3-6 players with the same corporation. But as I got better, you start realize the ones you have to watch for, then you realize the specific players in that corp you have to be aware of.

Nyain San though... those are the guys you should be mad at. Cheap exploits over actual good play.

Crap players ?
Till we meet again then

Crap players ?
Till we meet again then

Congratulations on getting a hate thread!

My problem with WTF isn't the proto, but the constant grenade spam and Rapid fire Mass Driving they do. Altough I can't blame them for trying to make up for their lack of gungame.

** hands a box of tissue. **

Weird most whiners are public players only. if you're so hardcore and we're such carebears with a huge need to buff our gun game, why have we been constantly involved in PC ? And not with the worst success rate overall.

Also why would players like us with 1 and half year, SP and resources bother playing with lame gear. And after all, many of you keep saying how good u are with just ADV. Then why the complaints ?

Bottom line. Quit the whining. ...

PS: how do you guys get so mad you go 4 pages on a topic without even one of us pitching in ?

** hands a box of tissue. **

Weird most whiners are public players only. if you're so hardcore and we're such carebears with a huge need to buff our gun game, why have we been constantly involved in PC ? And not with the worst success rate overall.

Also why would players like us with 1 and half year, SP and resources bother playing with lame gear. And after all, many of you keep saying how good u are with just ADV. Then why the complaints ?

Bottom line. Quit the whining. ...

PS: how do you guys get so mad you go 4 pages on a topic without even one of us pitching in ?

Well I only play pub games with my corp atm.. Usually only domination because it is fun. I dont think gear is the problem. I kinda like that there is different kind of players using different gear.

I would like to see more squads of protogear in domination matches. Most people are only solo from big corps. Never have had any problems with better gear and better SKILLED players. If something is too powerfull against me I frontline (happens all the time) I go for support.

Just my 0.2isks

And about WTF I would like to see more of you in Domination

Oh for god sake. When did Proto gear = Crap players? Bloody hell as if there wasn't enough for you morons to whine about. Does it suck for new players getting proto stomped? Yeah. It does. Boo ******* hoo. It is not our duty as players to nurture them like baby cattle it is supposed to be CCP's but they are the ones throwing them in the deep end.

If you're whining about prototype gear then you are clearly a scrub. I can take on most protos with my advanced gear, and when I bring out my prototype it's not because I'm 'crap', but rather because I have a challenge to take on, or I am certain that I will not lose it.

Why are What The French getting so much hate? I went up against them in a PC yesterady with Red Star and although they lost they all played fantastically, I don't know where this 'Mass Driver' explosive spam is coming from, as if they are the ONLY ones in the entire game that use that.

If you die to prototype gear that means they are a better player than you. They would probably stomp you in ADV gear too, but they can afford to use the proto so why not? They earned it, they can use it at their disposal.

Stop whining and face my proto gear like a man ;-)

** hands a box of tissue. **

Weird most whiners are public players only. if you're so hardcore and we're such carebears with a huge need to buff our gun game, why have we been constantly involved in PC ? And not with the worst success rate overall.

Also why would players like us with 1 and half year, SP and resources bother playing with lame gear. And after all, many of you keep saying how good u are with just ADV. Then why the complaints ?

Bottom line. Quit the whining. ...

PS: how do you guys get so mad you go 4 pages on a topic without even one of us pitching in ?

Not saying I agree with Rinzler on this one but I just have to add this, about the none of you pitching in one of your guys did a page or two ago.

Also @ ReGnYuM (probably got the damn caps wrong but hey ho) We currently don't have a district but if you want you could give us one to take off us, I have fought against IE, Nyain San, TP etc... in PC and fighting against the best is the best way to learn so I would be down for a few fights against you guys. Would have to be an EU friendly time since most of us are from the UK.

About the thread and post in general, I do have proto gear but I only use ADV in pub games and I believe the upcoming no ISK for FW matches will be a great change people will use their best gear in FW and run cheaper stuff in pubs to fund their efforts in FW and this may help new players. Or most people with a huge load of ISK (120mil from those reward Falchions anyone ) will still run full proto in pub games anyway.

I personally don't mind going against proto in pubs, a harder match is more rewarding and more of a learning experience in my opinion. I understand where you are coming from Rinzler but I don't really think this kind of thing will help it will just get you a reputation as a QQer (which would be a shame because you are a nice bloke and a good laugh in squad) and if I know the DUST community it will make people purposefully pull out their proto gear if they recognize you in a match just to troll lol, I must admit if I see people who have been known to complain about certain tactics and I am bored/drunk I usually start trolling them for the lols.

The fault is match making and the new player academy being so ridiculously short a new player joins plays half a dozen matches or so and suddenly they are fighting against anyone which obviously leads to new players getting their asses handed to them which I don't think helps retention.

Note I am not in any kind of leadership position in FORIM or Top Men just wanted to share my thoughts and drop CCP another hint that the academy is absolutely naff


P.S. Academy graduation points are far too low, just in-case you missed that part CCP.

Now as contradictory as this is going to sound!

I am a 100% AGAINST gear based match making, period you will never change my mind in such a matter, but groups that protostomp are a problem.

The current matchmaking systemnworks by grouping people together based in the strength of their connection. Niw as useful as this is we need another layer above this.

People need to grouped by skill level.

This does not mean SP Total
Or time playin

It mm is based on the average performance of the player including KDR, WP, TOL and isk profit.
Will solvenour problems

When I aim at people, I go for multi kills.


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This remark just lost you a district, wanna go for seconds

** hands a box of tissue. **

Weird most whiners are public players only. if you're so hardcore and we're such carebears with a huge need to buff our gun game, why have we been constantly involved in PC ? And not with the worst success rate overall.

Also why would players like us with 1 and half year, SP and resources bother playing with lame gear. And after all, many of you keep saying how good u are with just ADV. Then why the complaints ?

Bottom line. Quit the whining. ...

PS: how do you guys get so mad you go 4 pages on a topic without even one of us pitching in ?

It's really sad when your answer has no pertinence whatsoever to what I actually said. Let me repeat since you obviously lack reading comprehension.

1) Proto gear takes a really long time to get, not using that proto gear would be wasting all that time spent getting it.

2) Proto gear isn't what is killing you, teamwork is. Get in a squad and stop coming up with excuses for why you lost.

By the way, your post was far more arrogant and condescending than my first post was, hypocrite much?

Oh for god sake. When did Proto gear = Crap players? Bloody hell as if there wasn't enough for you morons to whine about. Does it suck for new players getting proto stomped? Yeah. It does. Boo ******* hoo. It is not our duty as players to nurture them like baby cattle it is supposed to be CCP's but they are the ones throwing them in the deep end.

If you're whining about prototype gear then you are clearly a scrub. I can take on most protos with my advanced gear, and when I bring out my prototype it's not because I'm 'crap', but rather because I have a challenge to take on, or I am certain that I will not lose it.

Why are What The French getting so much hate? I went up against them in a PC yesterady with Red Star and although they lost they all played fantastically, I don't know where this 'Mass Driver' explosive spam is coming from, as if they are the ONLY ones in the entire game that use that.

If you die to prototype gear that means they are a better player than you. They would probably stomp you in ADV gear too, but they can afford to use the proto so why not? They earned it, they can use it at their disposal.

Stop whining and face my proto gear like a man ;-)

I find it very interesting that as a member that sits on the CPM that you can be so dismissive towards your constituents. I thought you were supposed to represent us to CCP, not brow beat us with your obnoxious take on reality.

OHH! wait,m thatGÇÖs right!!! Your entitled and better than the rest of us because you have territory in PC, right?!?!?!

Most of that territory was maintained by the players of CRONOS, not just your player base from WTF. And WTF is right when out comes to a person looking at the words being spewed from your virtual lips and the words on these forum pages.

Laurent, there has not been a time that I have read your forum posts and thought, WTF! Just because you are good in this game doesnGÇÖt make you either a good person to have on the CPM representing this community, nor does it make you a good person, nor an expert to run around being the crow calling the raven black.

Get off your high horse. A problem perceived is a problem jun reality to the person seeing it. At least have the common decency that was given a horse to see that, or at least I would hope so. But then again, your actions constantly show that you donGÇÖe have that.

The most unfortunate thing about most of the actively posting members of the CPM is that you seem to be failing at one major thing; LISTENING to the COMMUNITY. Instead you attempt to act the brutal father figure.Why?

On another note, Rinzler XVII,

GG yesterday. That was funny. I thought I saw you in match. That one was fun. Keep it up.

yes we had two wins in three fights last night vs red star. gg guys was fun

Your tea bag was great bro

Your tea bag was great bro

If ccp removes proto from pub games guys will still get stomped and jump on the forums and QQ about "adstomping" and how guys should only be using std gear in pubs.soon public matches will be militia only that sound fun right

first off it is not a player fault for using the gear he earned.

second if their is an issue it is the responsibility of the developers to deal with it.

third and most importantly gear is the least of the reason new players lose to vets, more often then not blaming gear is just the crutch, so get off the forums and stop bitching about it.