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IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:32:00 -
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Effective match making is a pipe dream. It would require an actual active player base. Any more attempts at segregation will only increase wait times as every day there are fewer players to segregate. It's an issue yes, it's also an issue that is only relevant when there are more people playing. Consider it a first world issue that cod and bf4 have to deal with, you as a dust player live in Somalia. |
Rinzler XVII
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
176
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:38:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:Constantly running full proto in pubgames ?
You should be given a reward as the biggest reason why new players quit this game, seriously everyone show your appreciation by joining me in a very slow clap
*Clap*
-I don't mind you doing it v us, you lose a hell of a lot of ISK when you come up against us in ADV gear but when it comes to people new out of the academy being steamrolled by 6 people in full proto in top tier vehicles with proto mods its overkill
-Yes congratulations you can kill kittens using a sledgehammer but enough is enough, try using ADV once in a while or go do your protoscrubbing in FW/PC v other people using proto .. it begs the question .. is the only reason you can get kills because your in proto v new players and when you're up against people at your level you get decimated ?
-Yes yes it's their gear, their ISK they can do what they want but if that means sacrificing 10,000 potential players just so they can have a few minutes redlining the opposition is it really worth it ?
-CCP if you are so intent on bug fixes etc over adding new content then do something about the protostomping in pubgames it's out of hand and is seriously damaging your game, every single review i've looked at of this game says the same thing ... it's about as attractive a game to play for a new player as it is to slam your head with a car door .. Yes I know someone will say HTFU New Eden is tough ... but this kind of tough is the equivalent of putting a new born baby in a forest in alaska and leaving it there to survive saying HTFU ...
-WTF aren't the only people who do this however most of the other corps that have a tendency to run full proto do most of it in FW/PC and have actually be seen using non proto gear in pub games ..
-I get told it's CCP fault for having a broken system however it isn;t just the fault of the people who have the broken system it's also the fault of the people who abuse that system too and just because you can protostomp doesn't mean it's okay to do so. I can technically sleep with your wife does that mean it's fine if I do so because their is no rule against it ??
TL;DR If enough people put down their protogear in pubgames and point and laugh at those that don't then maybe one day Pubgames will be fun for all and not just another medium for the guys with sucky lives to feel important I have this to say. why cant i use proto gear against weaker enemies. Because its unfair? warfare is all about getting all of the advantages and giving the enemy none. Dust 514 is not a sports game so stop treating it like one. Also who the hell are you to compare sleeping with another mans wife * which is wrong no matter what* to pubstomping in a video game which is not real. Its a game about war stop saying pubstomping is wrong because its not. Your an enemy and i want you dead in the worst way possible. Either suck it up or leave the battle.
I see that someone slept with your wife xD ... You deserved it and actually if you treated her badly which clearly you did (You get kicks out of protostomping new players so I know the type of person you are already) then her sleeping with someone else is justified to quote you ... HTFU
PS .. LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Your wife cheated on you .. hahahaha .. hahahahahahahaha.. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA laugh at the loser who protostops because his wife cheated on him .. lol |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1881
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:39:00 -
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"I don't mind you running proto in pub games WTF, but let me just write a lengthy forum post complaining about it." |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
481
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:41:00 -
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IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY wrote:Effective match making is a pipe dream. It would require an actual active player base. Any more attempts at segregation will only increase wait times as every day there are fewer players to segregate. It's an issue yes, it's also an issue that is only relevant when there are more people playing. Consider it a first world issue that cod and bf4 have to deal with, you as a dust player live in Somalia. The whole point of dust is that lower lvls can fight higher lvls. Thats the point if everything is fair like sports than it will just get boring. std vs std adv vs adv pro vs pro. That would get so boring so fast because every one will always know what to expect. This unexpected match making requires you to make careful decisions when making suits and causes you to always stay on your feet as you will never know when a proto demon will turn the corner. And if he does will you be ready for him or will he eat you alive? |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
481
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:43:00 -
[35] - Quote
Rinzler XVII wrote:Soldiersaint wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:Constantly running full proto in pubgames ?
You should be given a reward as the biggest reason why new players quit this game, seriously everyone show your appreciation by joining me in a very slow clap
*Clap*
-I don't mind you doing it v us, you lose a hell of a lot of ISK when you come up against us in ADV gear but when it comes to people new out of the academy being steamrolled by 6 people in full proto in top tier vehicles with proto mods its overkill
-Yes congratulations you can kill kittens using a sledgehammer but enough is enough, try using ADV once in a while or go do your protoscrubbing in FW/PC v other people using proto .. it begs the question .. is the only reason you can get kills because your in proto v new players and when you're up against people at your level you get decimated ?
-Yes yes it's their gear, their ISK they can do what they want but if that means sacrificing 10,000 potential players just so they can have a few minutes redlining the opposition is it really worth it ?
-CCP if you are so intent on bug fixes etc over adding new content then do something about the protostomping in pubgames it's out of hand and is seriously damaging your game, every single review i've looked at of this game says the same thing ... it's about as attractive a game to play for a new player as it is to slam your head with a car door .. Yes I know someone will say HTFU New Eden is tough ... but this kind of tough is the equivalent of putting a new born baby in a forest in alaska and leaving it there to survive saying HTFU ...
-WTF aren't the only people who do this however most of the other corps that have a tendency to run full proto do most of it in FW/PC and have actually be seen using non proto gear in pub games ..
-I get told it's CCP fault for having a broken system however it isn;t just the fault of the people who have the broken system it's also the fault of the people who abuse that system too and just because you can protostomp doesn't mean it's okay to do so. I can technically sleep with your wife does that mean it's fine if I do so because their is no rule against it ??
TL;DR If enough people put down their protogear in pubgames and point and laugh at those that don't then maybe one day Pubgames will be fun for all and not just another medium for the guys with sucky lives to feel important I have this to say. why cant i use proto gear against weaker enemies. Because its unfair? warfare is all about getting all of the advantages and giving the enemy none. Dust 514 is not a sports game so stop treating it like one. Also who the hell are you to compare sleeping with another mans wife * which is wrong no matter what* to pubstomping in a video game which is not real. Its a game about war stop saying pubstomping is wrong because its not. Your an enemy and i want you dead in the worst way possible. Either suck it up or leave the battle. I see that someone slept with your wife xD ... You deserved it and actually if you treated her badly which clearly you did (You get kicks out of protostomping new players so I know the type of person you are already) then her sleeping with someone else is justified to quote you ... HTFU PS .. LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Your wife cheated on you .. hahahaha .. hahahahahahahaha.. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA laugh at the loser who protostomps because his wife cheated on him .. lol It took me a little while to figure out that you are a troll. im in school. Explain to me how i have a wife again? Reporting this post for really nasty trolling. |
Rinzler XVII
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
176
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:52:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:Soldiersaint wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:Constantly running full proto in pubgames ?
You should be given a reward as the biggest reason why new players quit this game, seriously everyone show your appreciation by joining me in a very slow clap
*Clap*
-I don't mind you doing it v us, you lose a hell of a lot of ISK when you come up against us in ADV gear but when it comes to people new out of the academy being steamrolled by 6 people in full proto in top tier vehicles with proto mods its overkill
-Yes congratulations you can kill kittens using a sledgehammer but enough is enough, try using ADV once in a while or go do your protoscrubbing in FW/PC v other people using proto .. it begs the question .. is the only reason you can get kills because your in proto v new players and when you're up against people at your level you get decimated ?
-Yes yes it's their gear, their ISK they can do what they want but if that means sacrificing 10,000 potential players just so they can have a few minutes redlining the opposition is it really worth it ?
-CCP if you are so intent on bug fixes etc over adding new content then do something about the protostomping in pubgames it's out of hand and is seriously damaging your game, every single review i've looked at of this game says the same thing ... it's about as attractive a game to play for a new player as it is to slam your head with a car door .. Yes I know someone will say HTFU New Eden is tough ... but this kind of tough is the equivalent of putting a new born baby in a forest in alaska and leaving it there to survive saying HTFU ...
-WTF aren't the only people who do this however most of the other corps that have a tendency to run full proto do most of it in FW/PC and have actually be seen using non proto gear in pub games ..
-I get told it's CCP fault for having a broken system however it isn;t just the fault of the people who have the broken system it's also the fault of the people who abuse that system too and just because you can protostomp doesn't mean it's okay to do so. I can technically sleep with your wife does that mean it's fine if I do so because their is no rule against it ??
TL;DR If enough people put down their protogear in pubgames and point and laugh at those that don't then maybe one day Pubgames will be fun for all and not just another medium for the guys with sucky lives to feel important I have this to say. why cant i use proto gear against weaker enemies. Because its unfair? warfare is all about getting all of the advantages and giving the enemy none. Dust 514 is not a sports game so stop treating it like one. Also who the hell are you to compare sleeping with another mans wife * which is wrong no matter what* to pubstomping in a video game which is not real. Its a game about war stop saying pubstomping is wrong because its not. Your an enemy and i want you dead in the worst way possible. Either suck it up or leave the battle. I see that someone slept with your wife xD ... You deserved it and actually if you treated her badly which clearly you did (You get kicks out of protostomping new players so I know the type of person you are already) then her sleeping with someone else is justified to quote you ... HTFU PS .. LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Your wife cheated on you .. hahahaha .. hahahahahahahaha.. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA laugh at the loser who protostomps because his wife cheated on him .. lol It took me a little while to figure out that you are a troll. im in school. Explain to me how i have a wife again? Reporting this post for really nasty trolling.
Well in that case children should be seen and not heard, take your opinions and put them in a little box and hand them to me when you hit 18, until then anything you say is pointless ...
Funny that you freely give it out but run off crying when someone gives it back to you honestly it's pathetic
Your knowledge of war is moronic, Did you know that 95% of all soldiers don;t actually want to kill their enemy or hate their enemy ? They don't go to war because they want to, they go to war because it's part of their job ! There are plenty of examples of soldiers purposefully missing because they didn;t want to kill and plenty of examples of soldiers who are haunted to this day about the people they have killed, anyone who delights in the killing of others is scum
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Rinzler XVII
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
176
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:57:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:IMPAIRS YOUR ABILITY wrote:Effective match making is a pipe dream. It would require an actual active player base. Any more attempts at segregation will only increase wait times as every day there are fewer players to segregate. It's an issue yes, it's also an issue that is only relevant when there are more people playing. Consider it a first world issue that cod and bf4 have to deal with, you as a dust player live in Somalia. The whole point of dust is that lower lvls can fight higher lvls. Thats the point if everything is fair like sports than it will just get boring. std vs std adv vs adv pro vs pro. That would get so boring so fast because every one will always know what to expect. This unexpected match making requires you to make careful decisions when making suits and causes you to always stay on your feet as you will never know when a proto demon will turn the corner. And if he does will you be ready for him or will he eat you alive?
idiotic matchmaking * PC and FW is a free for all gear wise, all I've asked for is 1 GODAMN GAMEMODE WHERE IT ISN'T A PROTOSTOMPING FRENZY .. It bores the crap out of most people when every game becomes .. they have a protosquad .. oh they have called in x y z .. oh they have won ... if matches were balanced SP wise it would be alot more fun because games would become based solely on skill/teamwork rather than gear .. the more you talk the more clueless you sound and I'm not wasting any more of my time reading the thoughts of a fool |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
482
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:58:00 -
[38] - Quote
Rinzler XVII wrote:Soldiersaint wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:Soldiersaint wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:Constantly running full proto in pubgames ?
You should be given a reward as the biggest reason why new players quit this game, seriously everyone show your appreciation by joining me in a very slow clap
*Clap*
-I don't mind you doing it v us, you lose a hell of a lot of ISK when you come up against us in ADV gear but when it comes to people new out of the academy being steamrolled by 6 people in full proto in top tier vehicles with proto mods its overkill
-Yes congratulations you can kill kittens using a sledgehammer but enough is enough, try using ADV once in a while or go do your protoscrubbing in FW/PC v other people using proto .. it begs the question .. is the only reason you can get kills because your in proto v new players and when you're up against people at your level you get decimated ?
-Yes yes it's their gear, their ISK they can do what they want but if that means sacrificing 10,000 potential players just so they can have a few minutes redlining the opposition is it really worth it ?
-CCP if you are so intent on bug fixes etc over adding new content then do something about the protostomping in pubgames it's out of hand and is seriously damaging your game, every single review i've looked at of this game says the same thing ... it's about as attractive a game to play for a new player as it is to slam your head with a car door .. Yes I know someone will say HTFU New Eden is tough ... but this kind of tough is the equivalent of putting a new born baby in a forest in alaska and leaving it there to survive saying HTFU ...
-WTF aren't the only people who do this however most of the other corps that have a tendency to run full proto do most of it in FW/PC and have actually be seen using non proto gear in pub games ..
-I get told it's CCP fault for having a broken system however it isn;t just the fault of the people who have the broken system it's also the fault of the people who abuse that system too and just because you can protostomp doesn't mean it's okay to do so. I can technically sleep with your wife does that mean it's fine if I do so because their is no rule against it ??
TL;DR If enough people put down their protogear in pubgames and point and laugh at those that don't then maybe one day Pubgames will be fun for all and not just another medium for the guys with sucky lives to feel important I have this to say. why cant i use proto gear against weaker enemies. Because its unfair? warfare is all about getting all of the advantages and giving the enemy none. Dust 514 is not a sports game so stop treating it like one. Also who the hell are you to compare sleeping with another mans wife * which is wrong no matter what* to pubstomping in a video game which is not real. Its a game about war stop saying pubstomping is wrong because its not. Your an enemy and i want you dead in the worst way possible. Either suck it up or leave the battle. I see that someone slept with your wife xD ... You deserved it and actually if you treated her badly which clearly you did (You get kicks out of protostomping new players so I know the type of person you are already) then her sleeping with someone else is justified to quote you ... HTFU PS .. LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Your wife cheated on you .. hahahaha .. hahahahahahahaha.. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA laugh at the loser who protostomps because his wife cheated on him .. lol It took me a little while to figure out that you are a troll. im in school. Explain to me how i have a wife again? Reporting this post for really nasty trolling. Well in that case children should be seen and not heard, take your opinions and put them in a little box and hand them to me when you hit 18, until then anything you say is pointless ... Funny that you freely give it out but run off crying when someone gives it back to you honestly it's pathetic Your knowledge of war is moronic, Did you know that 95% of all soldiers don;t actually want to kill their enemy or hate their enemy ? They don't go to war because they want to, they go to war because it's part of their job ! There are plenty of examples of soldiers purposefully missing because they didn;t want to kill and plenty of examples of soldiers who are haunted to this day about the people they have killed, anyone who delights in the killing of others is scum I turned 18 in may and i am in the 12th grade. your point is? Your a jerk who trys to tell others what to do. And you also enjoy talking bad about people who dont do what you want them to do. This post is in no way helping the game. Its just a worthless troll post. Once ccp sees that they will lock it. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
482
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Posted - 2013.10.24 20:04:00 -
[39] - Quote
Sgt Kirk wrote:My problem with WTF isn't the proto, but the constant grenade spam and Rapid fire Mass Driving they do. Altough I can't blame them for trying to make up for their lack of gungame.
Lack of gun game. what the hell do you play war games for? to entertain the enemy team? wtf is a very smart corp. They know the best way to defeat the enemy and without so much as losing a hand full of isk. |
Vinsarrow
New Eden Blades Of The Azure
16
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Posted - 2013.10.24 20:21:00 -
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II-OwO-II PoNyU wrote:*NU EED'N PSA* stroke your KDr today! engage in protostomping and make sure you call in no less than 3 tanks, they won't know what hit them. Just remember: kdr is everything, don't you ever think otherwise XD anyway if your that upset about it I blame Scotty The AI, SP Cap & Fear of the proto stomp can be fixed in 1 very simple way - Put people with the same area of lifetime SP in matches together, noobs with noobs, veterans vs veterans, bad @$$es vs bad @$$es, & the reason I find most people quit is because they don't stick with it long enough, very simple also if you work a year or months yes I plan to use that protogear like everyone plans to with theirs..... |
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Mauren NOON
The Exemplars Top Men.
40
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Posted - 2013.10.24 20:22:00 -
[41] - Quote
ReGnYuM wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:Constantly running full proto in pubgames ?
You should be given a reward as the biggest reason why new players quit this game, seriously everyone show your appreciation by joining me in a very slow clap
*Clap*
-I don't mind you doing it v us, you lose a hell of a lot of ISK when you come up against us in ADV gear but when it comes to people new out of the academy being steamrolled by 6 people in full proto in top tier vehicles with proto mods its overkill
-Yes congratulations you can kill kittens using a sledgehammer but enough is enough, try using ADV once in a while or go do your protoscrubbing in FW/PC v other people using proto .. it begs the question .. is the only reason you can get kills because your in proto v new players and when you're up against people at your level you get decimated ?
-Yes yes it's their gear, their ISK they can do what they want but if that means sacrificing 10,000 potential players just so they can have a few minutes redlining the opposition is it really worth it ?
-CCP if you are so intent on bug fixes etc over adding new content then do something about the protostomping in pubgames it's out of hand and is seriously damaging your game, every single review i've looked at of this game says the same thing ... it's about as attractive a game to play for a new player as it is to slam your head with a car door .. Yes I know someone will say HTFU New Eden is tough ... but this kind of tough is the equivalent of putting a new born baby in a forest in alaska and leaving it there to survive saying HTFU ...
-WTF aren't the only people who do this however most of the other corps that have a tendency to run full proto do most of it in FW/PC and have actually be seen using non proto gear in pub games ..
-I get told it's CCP fault for having a broken system however it isn;t just the fault of the people who have the broken system it's also the fault of the people who abuse that system too and just because you can protostomp doesn't mean it's okay to do so. I can technically sleep with your wife does that mean it's fine if I do so because their is no rule against it ??
TL;DR If enough people put down their protogear in pubgames and point and laugh at those that don't then maybe one day Pubgames will be fun for all and not just another medium for the guys with sucky lives to feel important Man I am close to giving Top Man a reward for Biggest Forum Whining Eva (BFWE) Seriously its like every other post with you guys I want to give Molden Heath Police Department the award for most douche bag corp in the game(MDBCITG) but hey....all of us have our own opinions. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
2126
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Posted - 2013.10.24 20:25:00 -
[42] - Quote
Soldiersaint wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:My problem with WTF isn't the proto, but the constant grenade spam and Rapid fire Mass Driving they do. Altough I can't blame them for trying to make up for their lack of gungame.
Lack of gun game. what the hell do you play war games for? to entertain the enemy team? wtf is a very smart corp. They know the best way to defeat the enemy and without so much as losing a hand full of isk. Very smart? Anybody with half a brain can stomp a pub match with a full squad of proto suits. |
Rinzler XVII
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
177
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Posted - 2013.10.24 20:27:00 -
[43] - Quote
Vinsarrow wrote:II-OwO-II PoNyU wrote:*NU EED'N PSA* stroke your KDr today! engage in protostomping and make sure you call in no less than 3 tanks, they won't know what hit them. Just remember: kdr is everything, don't you ever think otherwise XD anyway if your that upset about it I blame Scotty The AI, SP Cap & Fear of the proto stomp can be fixed in 1 very simple way - Put people with the same area of lifetime SP in matches together, noobs with noobs, veterans vs veterans, bad @$$es vs bad @$$es, & the reason I find most people quit is because they don't stick with it long enough, very simple also if you work a year or months yes I plan to use that protogear like everyone plans to with theirs.....
Im waiting on my protosuit 3 weeks to go but ill still be using ADV in pub games and saving proto for FW LP / PC ...
But yeah matchmaking is absolutely awful, if these guys were put up against other protosquads they'd soon revert to using ADV in pub games .. the reason they run proto is because they know they are likely to be against non proto peeps on the other side and get easy kills and this is why I have such an issue with it |
Rinzler XVII
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
177
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Posted - 2013.10.24 20:29:00 -
[44] - Quote
Mauren NOON wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:Constantly running full proto in pubgames ?
You should be given a reward as the biggest reason why new players quit this game, seriously everyone show your appreciation by joining me in a very slow clap
*Clap*
-I don't mind you doing it v us, you lose a hell of a lot of ISK when you come up against us in ADV gear but when it comes to people new out of the academy being steamrolled by 6 people in full proto in top tier vehicles with proto mods its overkill
-Yes congratulations you can kill kittens using a sledgehammer but enough is enough, try using ADV once in a while or go do your protoscrubbing in FW/PC v other people using proto .. it begs the question .. is the only reason you can get kills because your in proto v new players and when you're up against people at your level you get decimated ?
-Yes yes it's their gear, their ISK they can do what they want but if that means sacrificing 10,000 potential players just so they can have a few minutes redlining the opposition is it really worth it ?
-CCP if you are so intent on bug fixes etc over adding new content then do something about the protostomping in pubgames it's out of hand and is seriously damaging your game, every single review i've looked at of this game says the same thing ... it's about as attractive a game to play for a new player as it is to slam your head with a car door .. Yes I know someone will say HTFU New Eden is tough ... but this kind of tough is the equivalent of putting a new born baby in a forest in alaska and leaving it there to survive saying HTFU ...
-WTF aren't the only people who do this however most of the other corps that have a tendency to run full proto do most of it in FW/PC and have actually be seen using non proto gear in pub games ..
-I get told it's CCP fault for having a broken system however it isn;t just the fault of the people who have the broken system it's also the fault of the people who abuse that system too and just because you can protostomp doesn't mean it's okay to do so. I can technically sleep with your wife does that mean it's fine if I do so because their is no rule against it ??
TL;DR If enough people put down their protogear in pubgames and point and laugh at those that don't then maybe one day Pubgames will be fun for all and not just another medium for the guys with sucky lives to feel important Man I am close to giving Top Man a reward for Biggest Forum Whining Eva (BFWE) Seriously its like every other post with you guys I want to give Molden Heath Police Department the award for most douche bag corp in the game(MDBCITG) but hey....all of us have our own opinions.
I have no idea why he didn;t just give me the award coz in all honesty i'm the only person who QQ on the forum in Top Men lol
Ah well they say all publicity is good publicity |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
2126
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Posted - 2013.10.24 20:32:00 -
[45] - Quote
Rinzler XVII wrote:Vinsarrow wrote:II-OwO-II PoNyU wrote:*NU EED'N PSA* stroke your KDr today! engage in protostomping and make sure you call in no less than 3 tanks, they won't know what hit them. Just remember: kdr is everything, don't you ever think otherwise XD anyway if your that upset about it I blame Scotty The AI, SP Cap & Fear of the proto stomp can be fixed in 1 very simple way - Put people with the same area of lifetime SP in matches together, noobs with noobs, veterans vs veterans, bad @$$es vs bad @$$es, & the reason I find most people quit is because they don't stick with it long enough, very simple also if you work a year or months yes I plan to use that protogear like everyone plans to with theirs..... Im waiting on my protosuit 3 weeks to go but ill still be using ADV in pub games and saving proto for FW LP / PC ... But yeah matchmaking is absolutely awful, if these guys were put up against other protosquads they'd soon revert to using ADV in pub games .. the reason they run proto is because they know they are likely to be against non proto peeps on the other side and get easy kills and this is why I have such an issue with it You can't have effective matchmaking with this small amount of players. Matchmaking requires a large active playerbase to be effective. |
Rinzler XVII
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
177
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Posted - 2013.10.24 20:35:00 -
[46] - Quote
Kane Fyea wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:Vinsarrow wrote:II-OwO-II PoNyU wrote:*NU EED'N PSA* stroke your KDr today! engage in protostomping and make sure you call in no less than 3 tanks, they won't know what hit them. Just remember: kdr is everything, don't you ever think otherwise XD anyway if your that upset about it I blame Scotty The AI, SP Cap & Fear of the proto stomp can be fixed in 1 very simple way - Put people with the same area of lifetime SP in matches together, noobs with noobs, veterans vs veterans, bad @$$es vs bad @$$es, & the reason I find most people quit is because they don't stick with it long enough, very simple also if you work a year or months yes I plan to use that protogear like everyone plans to with theirs..... Im waiting on my protosuit 3 weeks to go but ill still be using ADV in pub games and saving proto for FW LP / PC ... But yeah matchmaking is absolutely awful, if these guys were put up against other protosquads they'd soon revert to using ADV in pub games .. the reason they run proto is because they know they are likely to be against non proto peeps on the other side and get easy kills and this is why I have such an issue with it You can't have effective matchmaking with this small amount of players. Matchmaking requires a large active playerbase to be effective.
I know but protostomping turns potential new players away, its a catch 22 situation and either is stays as it currently is which simply isn't working or it changes and we suffer for a month or 2 with longer waiting times until we gain more players, personally I'd rather queue for 1 minute and get a balanced fun match with people at my sp level than queue for 5 seconds and be on the end of constant protostomps |
Kazeno Rannaa
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Posted - 2013.10.24 20:35:00 -
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Rinzler XVII wrote:Constantly running full proto in pubgames ?
You should be given a reward as the biggest reason why new players quit this game, seriously everyone show your appreciation by joining me in a very slow clap
*Clap*
-I don't mind you doing it v us, you lose a hell of a lot of ISK when you come up against us in ADV gear but when it comes to people new out of the academy being steamrolled by 6 people in full proto in top tier vehicles with proto mods its overkill
-Yes congratulations you can kill kittens using a sledgehammer but enough is enough, try using ADV once in a while or go do your protoscrubbing in FW/PC v other people using proto .. it begs the question .. is the only reason you can get kills because your in proto v new players and when you're up against people at your level you get decimated ?
-Yes yes it's their gear, their ISK they can do what they want but if that means sacrificing 10,000 potential players just so they can have a few minutes redlining the opposition is it really worth it ?
-CCP if you are so intent on bug fixes etc over adding new content then do something about the protostomping in pubgames it's out of hand and is seriously damaging your game, every single review i've looked at of this game says the same thing ... it's about as attractive a game to play for a new player as it is to slam your head with a car door .. Yes I know someone will say HTFU New Eden is tough ... but this kind of tough is the equivalent of putting a new born baby in a forest in alaska and leaving it there to survive saying HTFU ...
-WTF aren't the only people who do this however most of the other corps that have a tendency to run full proto do most of it in FW/PC and have actually be seen using non proto gear in pub games ..
-I get told it's CCP fault for having a broken system however it isn;t just the fault of the people who have the broken system it's also the fault of the people who abuse that system too and just because you can protostomp doesn't mean it's okay to do so. I can technically sleep with your wife does that mean it's fine if I do so because their is no rule against it ??
TL;DR If enough people put down their protogear in pubgames and point and laugh at those that don't then maybe one day Pubgames will be fun for all and not just another medium for the guys with sucky lives to feel important
These guys are not the only ones doing this, though they have been some of the worst throughout the life of this game so far, with the other being SI, Imperfects, and corps from EON.
The only thing this goes to who and prove is just how small the e-peen is and how often them must grab it and twiddle it between thumb and forefinger to reassure them that it is there and still exists.
15 million SP and I still go into matches running standard gear against these guys, take a beating at times, but the training is well worth it.
I truly feel sorry for people like this.
*clap* *clap* *finger tap* |
Mordecai Sanguine
What The French CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.10.24 20:37:00 -
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Here i am !!!!! Seriously that's REALLY funny.
In public matches i got Advanced (Basic) stuff sometime. (40000 ISK per fit and 60% of it are equipements). And i stomp ennemies like in protos. It's about skill. I got the same result in Proto than in advanced everything is about risk. I see 4 ennemies. In advanced i'm gonne rush them take them out and then dance on their body. In proto i know if i fail it's over i'm gonna play tactically using everything i have to stay alive.
People you see "proto-stomping" you so easily. I'm sure they could use Advanced and do the same. But they got money they use a lot of time to get proto to get what they wished. They got what they wished and the money to use it. Why they should use anything else ?
In public i got kill by these f*cking murder taxi of death. And i prefer be killed by proto stuff. Than by a dragonfly user using Insdestructible Yellow jeep (3 C-7 flux can't even destroy the shield of an charybdis...). Or using BPO suit agains and again without any risk of lose.
Using proto stuff means a lot of risk. They can't fail because it will ruin their game. That's why they play good with no mercy. I prefer be killed by someone who gots balls and play with it. Than some Low-risk player who don't want to play.
We'll see when you have unlocked proto and Complex stuff. YOU WILL USE THEM. Don't tell me you're gonna unlock them buy them and then...play in basic all the time it's a LIE.
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Kazeno Rannaa
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Posted - 2013.10.24 20:37:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:Vinsarrow wrote:II-OwO-II PoNyU wrote:*NU EED'N PSA* stroke your KDr today! engage in protostomping and make sure you call in no less than 3 tanks, they won't know what hit them. Just remember: kdr is everything, don't you ever think otherwise XD anyway if your that upset about it I blame Scotty The AI, SP Cap & Fear of the proto stomp can be fixed in 1 very simple way - Put people with the same area of lifetime SP in matches together, noobs with noobs, veterans vs veterans, bad @$$es vs bad @$$es, & the reason I find most people quit is because they don't stick with it long enough, very simple also if you work a year or months yes I plan to use that protogear like everyone plans to with theirs..... Im waiting on my protosuit 3 weeks to go but ill still be using ADV in pub games and saving proto for FW LP / PC ... But yeah matchmaking is absolutely awful, if these guys were put up against other protosquads they'd soon revert to using ADV in pub games .. the reason they run proto is because they know they are likely to be against non proto peeps on the other side and get easy kills and this is why I have such an issue with it You can't have effective matchmaking with this small amount of players. Matchmaking requires a large active playerbase to be effective.
Well if a person is aware of this, then a bit of consideration for the community needs to come into play along with a sense of self control. These guys remind me of drunk people in San Francisco that decide to urinate in a personGÇÖs doorway because they canGÇÖt hold it like and adult.
Adult bodies and infantile minds. |
Mordecai Sanguine
What The French CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.10.24 20:44:00 -
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And don't forget one simple thing.
Passive Bonus.
We could play on Advanced gear or Basic. But anyway the passive Bonus will get us to an Proto level ANYWAY.
I mean i'm a master Level 4 with scrambler pistol and Mass driver. I use Basic gear. But anyway in fact it makes the same damage than a proto without master level.
You see ? Same for Ehp. Same for everything.
We got better stuff and we fit better we deserve to kill you. It's not Call of duty where everything is at the same level.
It's a freaking RPG.
A level 50 will not use items of level 4 everytime he must kill an level 4. We will destroy it with level 50 stuff and that's all.
Dust is not an generic shooter Dust is a RPG/FPS don't forget it. |
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.10.24 20:56:00 -
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I don't think that as the player we should be responsible for player retention... I completely agree with helping new players, that's what d-uni does...
but if people quit because they refuse to squad up and suffer the occasional pub stomp, well, that shouldn't fall on the players' shoulders, or ccp... that's an individuals choice...
ccp's job is to attempt to make an awesome, fun game.
the players job is to play it.
the rules are programed by ccp and the player is bound by those parameters.
the individual chooses whether or not they like what they get and whether or not to continue playing.
im all for seeing this game grow, but not at the expense of players toning down their play style to make the noobs happy.
what new players need is a place only they can go to play and learn game mechanics...
this responsibility belongs completely to ccp to design...what the French or you or anyone else cant do a thing about it short of running militia gear all the time, and that wont even save the newberries who are still trying to shoot the mcc.... |
Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.10.24 21:01:00 -
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I don't know why you are specifically calling out WTF but many corporations do it and it is because there are no other ISK sinks for people with hundreds of millions in ISK to spend tha ton so they are going to use their best stuff in pub matches to improve stats and because why not?
What is the point of being skilled into proto suits, weapons, etc... if you never use it?
Seems liek CCP in a round about way is planning on addressing this issue with creating another ISK sink and perhaps expanding or changing PC to make that more of an ISK sink and less of a ISK generator |
Rinzler XVII
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
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Posted - 2013.10.24 21:10:00 -
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Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Here i am !!!!! Seriously that's REALLY funny.
In public matches i got Advanced (Basic) stuff sometime. (40000 ISK per fit and 60% of it are equipements). And i stomp ennemies like in protos. It's about skill. I got the same result in Proto than in advanced everything is about risk. I see 4 ennemies. In advanced i'm gonne rush them take them out and then dance on their body. In proto i know if i fail it's over i'm gonna play tactically using everything i have to stay alive.
People you see "proto-stomping" you so easily. I'm sure they could use Advanced and do the same. But they got money they use a lot of time to get proto to get what they wished. They got what they wished and the money to use it. Why they should use anything else ?
In public i got kill by these f*cking murder taxi of death. And i prefer be killed by proto stuff. Than by a dragonfly user using Insdestructible Yellow jeep (3 C-7 flux can't even destroy the shield of an charybdis...). Or using BPO suit agains and again without any risk of lose.
Using proto stuff means a lot of risk. They can't fail because it will ruin their game. That's why they play good with no mercy. I prefer be killed by someone who gots balls and play with it. Than some Low-risk player who don't want to play.
We'll see when you have unlocked proto and Complex stuff. YOU WILL USE THEM. Don't tell me you're gonna unlock them buy them and then...play in basic all the time it's a LIE.
1. Im against protostomping in pubgames, you are free to do what you like in FW and PC
2. I use ADV only in pubgames
3.You don;t do as well in ADV compared to Proto otherwise you wouldn;t risk the extra ISK to do just as well so enough with the self proclaimed EPEEN I've seen you guys get decimated even with proto so you aren;t as good as you think you are
4. Why was that when the FW event was on and all the good corps were in FW you guys were still protostomping in pubgames ?
5.I have top tier core skills so if they used advanced we'd have the same stats
6.You're a scrub corp and there are many people who think that way .. personally for people using proto constantly you guys are awful
Please note that all those people you protostomp are gradually gaining SP and when the day comes that they are at the same gear level I will stand back and watch you get obliterated ..this thread is solely aimed at making your protostomping known to all those guys at STD ADV levels so that when they hit proto and come up against you you'll be up against 16 people wanting to run you into the ground and 10 people on your team going out of their way to make sure they do nothing to help you and without the gear advantage lets see how you do xD
Thanks for the replies btw |
Kazeno Rannaa
BIG BAD W0LVES
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Posted - 2013.10.24 21:12:00 -
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Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Here i am !!!!! Seriously that's REALLY funny.
In public matches i got Advanced (Basic) stuff sometime. (40000 ISK per fit and 60% of it are equipements). And i stomp ennemies like in protos. It's about skill. I got the same result in Proto than in advanced everything is about risk. I see 4 ennemies. In advanced i'm gonne rush them take them out and then dance on their body. In proto i know if i fail it's over i'm gonna play tactically using everything i have to stay alive.
People you see "proto-stomping" you so easily. I'm sure they could use Advanced and do the same. But they got money they use a lot of time to get proto to get what they wished. They got what they wished and the money to use it. Why they should use anything else ?
In public i got kill by these f*cking murder taxi of death. And i prefer be killed by proto stuff. Than by a dragonfly user using Insdestructible Yellow jeep (3 C-7 flux can't even destroy the shield of an charybdis...). Or using BPO suit agains and again without any risk of lose.
Using proto stuff means a lot of risk. They can't fail because it will ruin their game. That's why they play good with no mercy. I prefer be killed by someone who gots balls and play with it. Than some Low-risk player who don't want to play.
We'll see when you have unlocked proto and Complex stuff. YOU WILL USE THEM. Don't tell me you're gonna unlock them buy them and then...play in basic all the time it's a LIE.
Sure, you keep telling yourself that.
It seems every time I run into your group, it is PROTO or NOTHING. So I have difficulty in believing you due to not just one or two instances of your corp proto-stomping, but of months (10 +) of your corp doing that. An people wonder why the new player base is small outside of the technical issue that are in process of being fixed. Proto-stomping people such as yourself that feel the need to GÇ£showGÇ¥ your superiority through the e-peen of a proto-suit use in public matches against NPC corp players and unorganized blue-berries are nothing new to the world of competition through anonymity via computers. Flashing bigger and better toys is not a sign of skill, rather it is a sign of a small *****.
That is just my opinion. Take it for what it is. The fact that you came onto this thread in an attempt to prove that you are not just goes to prove that you do. Typically where there is smoke, there is fire. And I see smoke and someone is attempting to blow it up my bumm.
EDIT: BTW - I have unlocked proto. I just feel it takes more skill to be in a standard suit and take one of you proto-stomping dweebs out than it does to be in a proto-suit and squish the newbs. Good luck in the constant conversation that you seem to be having with yourself about how all your actions are completely justifiable. |
Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.24 21:17:00 -
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I run proto gear in all matches, sue me. I can decimate your face off just as easily with a STD suit, but my proto gear carries more equipment, have you got a problem with that? It seems to me that this is just a butthurt post about getting protostomped, CCP made this game take months of grinding to get proto, do you really expect people not to use it?
Here's the dirty secret, power doesn't come from proto gear, it comes from the communication and grouping done by the people who just happen to take their proto gear into matches. You're getting squadstomped, not protostomped. |
Flaminius-Aurelius Julius
DUST University Ivy League
88
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Posted - 2013.10.24 21:17:00 -
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If you made an open market in the EVE-Dust and between the playerbase in general, all OP and UP would go away in the price system of the market. |
Kazeno Rannaa
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Posted - 2013.10.24 21:18:00 -
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Cy Clone1 wrote:how can you expect people to wait months to get their proto gear and not use it.
it is not that. it is when a person speaks of skill and all they do is run around with an obnoxiously large stick for no reason and they beat up on their neighborsGÇÖ kid for the sake GÇ£that they can.GÇ¥
That is the issue I have. |
J0LLY R0G3R
Unkn0wn Killers
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Posted - 2013.10.24 21:18:00 -
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Rinzler XVII wrote:I keep getting worked over, I need you to be more gentle.
XD |
Kazeno Rannaa
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Posted - 2013.10.24 21:30:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:I run proto gear in all matches, sue me. I can decimate your face off just as easily with a STD suit, but my proto gear carries more equipment, have you got a problem with that? It seems to me that this is just a butthurt post about getting protostomped, CCP made this game take months of grinding to get proto, do you really expect people not to use it?
Here's the dirty secret, power doesn't come from proto gear, it comes from the communication and grouping done by the people who just happen to take their proto gear into matches. You're getting squadstomped, not protostomped.
Yes I do have a problem with arrogance, much like the performance that you are giving the lot of us. I am glad that stroking your e-peen is of such a priority to you, that working on developing, cultivating, and maintaining a community, specifically this community, must come last to the ingratiation of your own over inflated ego.
IGÇÖll keep that in mind for future reference.
My issue is self-centerd attitudes. I am primarily concerned with a functional and flourishing community, not stroking my electronic cack. |
Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.24 21:39:00 -
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Kazeno Rannaa wrote:Logi Bro wrote:I run proto gear in all matches, sue me. I can decimate your face off just as easily with a STD suit, but my proto gear carries more equipment, have you got a problem with that? It seems to me that this is just a butthurt post about getting protostomped, CCP made this game take months of grinding to get proto, do you really expect people not to use it?
Here's the dirty secret, power doesn't come from proto gear, it comes from the communication and grouping done by the people who just happen to take their proto gear into matches. You're getting squadstomped, not protostomped. Yes I do have a problem with arrogance, much like the performance that you are giving the lot of us. I am glad that stroking your e-peen is of such a priority to you, that working on developing, cultivating, and maintaining a community, specifically this community, must come last to the ingratiation of your own over inflated ego. IGÇÖll keep that in mind for future reference. My issue is self-centerd attitudes. I am primarily concerned with a functional and flourishing community, not stroking my electronic cack.
It's really sad when your answer has no pertinence whatsoever to what I actually said. Let me repeat since you obviously lack reading comprehension.
1) Proto gear takes a really long time to get, not using that proto gear would be wasting all that time spent getting it.
2) Proto gear isn't what is killing you, teamwork is. Get in a squad and stop coming up with excuses for why you lost.
By the way, your post was far more arrogant and condescending than my first post was, hypocrite much?
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