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Kazeno Rannaa
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Posted - 2013.10.24 20:35:00 -
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Rinzler XVII wrote:Constantly running full proto in pubgames ?
You should be given a reward as the biggest reason why new players quit this game, seriously everyone show your appreciation by joining me in a very slow clap
*Clap*
-I don't mind you doing it v us, you lose a hell of a lot of ISK when you come up against us in ADV gear but when it comes to people new out of the academy being steamrolled by 6 people in full proto in top tier vehicles with proto mods its overkill
-Yes congratulations you can kill kittens using a sledgehammer but enough is enough, try using ADV once in a while or go do your protoscrubbing in FW/PC v other people using proto .. it begs the question .. is the only reason you can get kills because your in proto v new players and when you're up against people at your level you get decimated ?
-Yes yes it's their gear, their ISK they can do what they want but if that means sacrificing 10,000 potential players just so they can have a few minutes redlining the opposition is it really worth it ?
-CCP if you are so intent on bug fixes etc over adding new content then do something about the protostomping in pubgames it's out of hand and is seriously damaging your game, every single review i've looked at of this game says the same thing ... it's about as attractive a game to play for a new player as it is to slam your head with a car door .. Yes I know someone will say HTFU New Eden is tough ... but this kind of tough is the equivalent of putting a new born baby in a forest in alaska and leaving it there to survive saying HTFU ...
-WTF aren't the only people who do this however most of the other corps that have a tendency to run full proto do most of it in FW/PC and have actually be seen using non proto gear in pub games ..
-I get told it's CCP fault for having a broken system however it isn;t just the fault of the people who have the broken system it's also the fault of the people who abuse that system too and just because you can protostomp doesn't mean it's okay to do so. I can technically sleep with your wife does that mean it's fine if I do so because their is no rule against it ??
TL;DR If enough people put down their protogear in pubgames and point and laugh at those that don't then maybe one day Pubgames will be fun for all and not just another medium for the guys with sucky lives to feel important
These guys are not the only ones doing this, though they have been some of the worst throughout the life of this game so far, with the other being SI, Imperfects, and corps from EON.
The only thing this goes to who and prove is just how small the e-peen is and how often them must grab it and twiddle it between thumb and forefinger to reassure them that it is there and still exists.
15 million SP and I still go into matches running standard gear against these guys, take a beating at times, but the training is well worth it.
I truly feel sorry for people like this.
*clap* *clap* *finger tap* |
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Posted - 2013.10.24 20:37:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:Vinsarrow wrote:II-OwO-II PoNyU wrote:*NU EED'N PSA* stroke your KDr today! engage in protostomping and make sure you call in no less than 3 tanks, they won't know what hit them. Just remember: kdr is everything, don't you ever think otherwise XD anyway if your that upset about it I blame Scotty The AI, SP Cap & Fear of the proto stomp can be fixed in 1 very simple way - Put people with the same area of lifetime SP in matches together, noobs with noobs, veterans vs veterans, bad @$$es vs bad @$$es, & the reason I find most people quit is because they don't stick with it long enough, very simple also if you work a year or months yes I plan to use that protogear like everyone plans to with theirs..... Im waiting on my protosuit 3 weeks to go but ill still be using ADV in pub games and saving proto for FW LP / PC ... But yeah matchmaking is absolutely awful, if these guys were put up against other protosquads they'd soon revert to using ADV in pub games .. the reason they run proto is because they know they are likely to be against non proto peeps on the other side and get easy kills and this is why I have such an issue with it You can't have effective matchmaking with this small amount of players. Matchmaking requires a large active playerbase to be effective.
Well if a person is aware of this, then a bit of consideration for the community needs to come into play along with a sense of self control. These guys remind me of drunk people in San Francisco that decide to urinate in a personGÇÖs doorway because they canGÇÖt hold it like and adult.
Adult bodies and infantile minds. |
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Posted - 2013.10.24 21:12:00 -
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Mordecai Sanguine wrote:Here i am !!!!! Seriously that's REALLY funny.
In public matches i got Advanced (Basic) stuff sometime. (40000 ISK per fit and 60% of it are equipements). And i stomp ennemies like in protos. It's about skill. I got the same result in Proto than in advanced everything is about risk. I see 4 ennemies. In advanced i'm gonne rush them take them out and then dance on their body. In proto i know if i fail it's over i'm gonna play tactically using everything i have to stay alive.
People you see "proto-stomping" you so easily. I'm sure they could use Advanced and do the same. But they got money they use a lot of time to get proto to get what they wished. They got what they wished and the money to use it. Why they should use anything else ?
In public i got kill by these f*cking murder taxi of death. And i prefer be killed by proto stuff. Than by a dragonfly user using Insdestructible Yellow jeep (3 C-7 flux can't even destroy the shield of an charybdis...). Or using BPO suit agains and again without any risk of lose.
Using proto stuff means a lot of risk. They can't fail because it will ruin their game. That's why they play good with no mercy. I prefer be killed by someone who gots balls and play with it. Than some Low-risk player who don't want to play.
We'll see when you have unlocked proto and Complex stuff. YOU WILL USE THEM. Don't tell me you're gonna unlock them buy them and then...play in basic all the time it's a LIE.
Sure, you keep telling yourself that.
It seems every time I run into your group, it is PROTO or NOTHING. So I have difficulty in believing you due to not just one or two instances of your corp proto-stomping, but of months (10 +) of your corp doing that. An people wonder why the new player base is small outside of the technical issue that are in process of being fixed. Proto-stomping people such as yourself that feel the need to GÇ£showGÇ¥ your superiority through the e-peen of a proto-suit use in public matches against NPC corp players and unorganized blue-berries are nothing new to the world of competition through anonymity via computers. Flashing bigger and better toys is not a sign of skill, rather it is a sign of a small *****.
That is just my opinion. Take it for what it is. The fact that you came onto this thread in an attempt to prove that you are not just goes to prove that you do. Typically where there is smoke, there is fire. And I see smoke and someone is attempting to blow it up my bumm.
EDIT: BTW - I have unlocked proto. I just feel it takes more skill to be in a standard suit and take one of you proto-stomping dweebs out than it does to be in a proto-suit and squish the newbs. Good luck in the constant conversation that you seem to be having with yourself about how all your actions are completely justifiable. |
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Posted - 2013.10.24 21:18:00 -
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Cy Clone1 wrote:how can you expect people to wait months to get their proto gear and not use it.
it is not that. it is when a person speaks of skill and all they do is run around with an obnoxiously large stick for no reason and they beat up on their neighborsGÇÖ kid for the sake GÇ£that they can.GÇ¥
That is the issue I have. |
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Posted - 2013.10.24 21:30:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:I run proto gear in all matches, sue me. I can decimate your face off just as easily with a STD suit, but my proto gear carries more equipment, have you got a problem with that? It seems to me that this is just a butthurt post about getting protostomped, CCP made this game take months of grinding to get proto, do you really expect people not to use it?
Here's the dirty secret, power doesn't come from proto gear, it comes from the communication and grouping done by the people who just happen to take their proto gear into matches. You're getting squadstomped, not protostomped.
Yes I do have a problem with arrogance, much like the performance that you are giving the lot of us. I am glad that stroking your e-peen is of such a priority to you, that working on developing, cultivating, and maintaining a community, specifically this community, must come last to the ingratiation of your own over inflated ego.
IGÇÖll keep that in mind for future reference.
My issue is self-centerd attitudes. I am primarily concerned with a functional and flourishing community, not stroking my electronic cack. |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 13:52:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Now as contradictory as this is going to sound!
I am a 100% AGAINST gear based match making, period you will never change my mind in such a matter, but groups that protostomp are a problem.
The current matchmaking systemnworks by grouping people together based in the strength of their connection. Niw as useful as this is we need another layer above this.
People need to grouped by skill level.
This does not mean SP Total Or time playin
It mm is based on the average performance of the player including KDR, WP, TOL and isk profit. Will solvenour problems
Monkey,
If the matchmaking is based on connection, then why is it that I am perpetually in matches with the Japanese and Russian plays along with the laggy French?
I find the presumption to be a bit unfounded and reaching.
From what I have seen the matchmaking is rooted around timing and slots needed to be filled in a match, nothing more. Maybe that is the problem. |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 14:07:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:** hands a box of tissue. **Weird most whiners are public players only. if you're so hardcore and we're such carebears with a huge need to buff our gun game, why have we been constantly involved in PC ? And not with the worst success rate overall. Also why would players like us with 1 and half year, SP and resources bother playing with lame gear. And after all, many of you keep saying how good u are with just ADV. Then why the complaints ? Bottom line. Quit the whining. ... PS: how do you guys get so mad you go 4 pages on a topic without even one of us pitching in ?
I find it very interesting that as a member that sits on the CPM that you can be so dismissive towards your constituents. I thought you were supposed to represent us to CCP, not brow beat us with your obnoxious take on reality.
OHH! wait,m thatGÇÖs right!!! Your entitled and better than the rest of us because you have territory in PC, right?!?!?!
Most of that territory was maintained by the players of CRONOS, not just your player base from WTF. And WTF is right when out comes to a person looking at the words being spewed from your virtual lips and the words on these forum pages.
Laurent, there has not been a time that I have read your forum posts and thought, WTF! Just because you are good in this game doesnGÇÖt make you either a good person to have on the CPM representing this community, nor does it make you a good person, nor an expert to run around being the crow calling the raven black.
Get off your high horse. A problem perceived is a problem jun reality to the person seeing it. At least have the common decency that was given a horse to see that, or at least I would hope so. But then again, your actions constantly show that you donGÇÖe have that.
The most unfortunate thing about most of the actively posting members of the CPM is that you seem to be failing at one major thing; LISTENING to the COMMUNITY. Instead you attempt to act the brutal father figure.Why?
On another note, Rinzler XVII,
GG yesterday. That was funny. I thought I saw you in match. That one was fun. Keep it up. |
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Posted - 2013.10.25 14:44:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Kazeno Rannaa wrote:Logi Bro wrote:I run proto gear in all matches, sue me. I can decimate your face off just as easily with a STD suit, but my proto gear carries more equipment, have you got a problem with that? It seems to me that this is just a butthurt post about getting protostomped, CCP made this game take months of grinding to get proto, do you really expect people not to use it?
Here's the dirty secret, power doesn't come from proto gear, it comes from the communication and grouping done by the people who just happen to take their proto gear into matches. You're getting squadstomped, not protostomped. Yes I do have a problem with arrogance, much like the performance that you are giving the lot of us. I am glad that stroking your e-peen is of such a priority to you, that working on developing, cultivating, and maintaining a community, specifically this community, must come last to the ingratiation of your own over inflated ego. IGÇÖll keep that in mind for future reference. My issue is self-centerd attitudes. I am primarily concerned with a functional and flourishing community, not stroking my electronic cack. It's really sad when your answer has no pertinence whatsoever to what I actually said. Let me repeat since you obviously lack reading comprehension. 1) Proto gear takes a really long time to get, not using that proto gear would be wasting all that time spent getting it. 2) Proto gear isn't what is killing you, teamwork is. Get in a squad and stop coming up with excuses for why you lost. By the way, your post was far more arrogant and condescending than my first post was, hypocrite much?
Crow calling the raven black. I see.
And obviously you failed to read what it is I wrote. That is the problem with having these kind of discussions through a forum, rather than in person. It is called semantical misunderstanding.
One, I never posited reasons, or excuses about anything except my assertion that proto-stomping is a form a ego stroking, which you were kind enough to show the rest of this forum by your statement "1) Proto gear takes a really long time to get, not using that proto gear would be wasting all that time spent getting it.GÇ¥
But then again that is my understanding of such statements.
As for your assertion that at time protogear isnGÇÖt what is killing me, teamwork is, I would go as far as saying that is where you are wrong. When you have a kill screen and everything on the gear layout is listed as proto, then it is what killed me. now this is not to say that a breakdown in squad awareness didnGÇÖt participate in that opportunity occurring, but your derisive comments and tone in this post are not needed. Towards me or OP.
So please, if you are going to be a butt hole, donGÇÖt engage in this discussion. Obviously you are unable to play with adults in adult activities. (You see that is me altercasting you as a juvenile. That too is derisive, but not arrogant. Just pointing out an observation.)
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