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KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2037	Posted - 2013.10.24 21:48:00 - [61] - Quote WTF N.San Science for Death L.o.t.i.s. Neet.98 etc.... There are lots of clans filled with try-hards,hell yesterday there was a full squad of people using balacs in a pub match. Of course i hid well and started taking them down with my Breach SG so even if they won i felt the rage in their hearsts.... The only thing i see bad with this is for the newberries. Experienced players have a disadvantage but the pleasure of killing protopubstompers is unequalled....
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 384	Posted - 2013.10.24 22:34:00 - [62] - Quote lol This guy keeps saying all he runs is ADV and then says he doesn't even have proto. I routinely watch guys in my corp stomp protos with ADV or lower gear. As many others have said in this thread, it's about teamwork and skill and gear. Not just gear. For you OP - LOL
ReGnYuM MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 1181	Posted - 2013.10.24 22:50:00 - [63] - Quote Rinzler XVII wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Constantly running full proto in pubgames ? You should be given a reward as the biggest reason why new players quit this game, seriously everyone show your appreciation by joining me in a very slow clap Clap -I don't mind you doing it v us, you lose a hell of a lot of ISK when you come up against us in ADV gear but when it comes to people new out of the academy being steamrolled by 6 people in full proto in top tier vehicles with proto mods its overkill -Yes congratulations you can kill kittens using a sledgehammer but enough is enough, try using ADV once in a while or go do your protoscrubbing in FW/PC v other people using proto .. it begs the question .. is the only reason you can get kills because your in proto v new players and when you're up against people at your level you get decimated ? -Yes yes it's their gear, their ISK they can do what they want but if that means sacrificing 10,000 potential players just so they can have a few minutes redlining the opposition is it really worth it ? -CCP if you are so intent on bug fixes etc over adding new content then do something about the protostomping in pubgames it's out of hand and is seriously damaging your game, every single review i've looked at of this game says the same thing ... it's about as attractive a game to play for a new player as it is to slam your head with a car door .. Yes I know someone will say HTFU New Eden is tough ... but this kind of tough is the equivalent of putting a new born baby in a forest in alaska and leaving it there to survive saying HTFU ... -WTF aren't the only people who do this however most of the other corps that have a tendency to run full proto do most of it in FW/PC and have actually be seen using non proto gear in pub games .. -I get told it's CCP fault for having a broken system however it isn;t just the fault of the people who have the broken system it's also the fault of the people who abuse that system too and just because you can protostomp doesn't mean it's okay to do so. I can technically sleep with your wife does that mean it's fine if I do so because their is no rule against it ?? TL;DR If enough people put down their protogear in pubgames and point and laugh at those that don't then maybe one day Pubgames will be fun for all and not just another medium for the guys with sucky lives to feel important Man I am close to giving Top Man a reward for Biggest Forum Whining Eva (BFWE) Seriously its like every other post with you guys Top Men not Top Man ,,,, Man is singular Men is plural .. calling an alliance Top Man would only make sense if there was only 1 person in it .. I know your a R E T A R D but you just went full R E T A R D PS Aim at me not the Alliance, this is me making a point .. I know you like to wave your EPEEN around but you're a nobody just like me only difference is that I know it and you're too deluded to know it When I aim at people, I go for multi kills. Quote: I know you like to wave your EPEEN around but you're a nobody just like me only difference is that I know it and you're too deluded to know it ^ This remark just lost you a district, wanna go for seconds
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 864	Posted - 2013.10.24 22:54:00 - [64] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Constantly running full proto in pubgames ? You should be given a reward as the biggest reason why new players quit this game, seriously everyone show your appreciation by joining me in a very slow clap Clap -I don't mind you doing it v us, you lose a hell of a lot of ISK when you come up against us in ADV gear but when it comes to people new out of the academy being steamrolled by 6 people in full proto in top tier vehicles with proto mods its overkill -Yes congratulations you can kill kittens using a sledgehammer but enough is enough, try using ADV once in a while or go do your protoscrubbing in FW/PC v other people using proto .. it begs the question .. is the only reason you can get kills because your in proto v new players and when you're up against people at your level you get decimated ? -Yes yes it's their gear, their ISK they can do what they want but if that means sacrificing 10,000 potential players just so they can have a few minutes redlining the opposition is it really worth it ? -CCP if you are so intent on bug fixes etc over adding new content then do something about the protostomping in pubgames it's out of hand and is seriously damaging your game, every single review i've looked at of this game says the same thing ... it's about as attractive a game to play for a new player as it is to slam your head with a car door .. Yes I know someone will say HTFU New Eden is tough ... but this kind of tough is the equivalent of putting a new born baby in a forest in alaska and leaving it there to survive saying HTFU ... -WTF aren't the only people who do this however most of the other corps that have a tendency to run full proto do most of it in FW/PC and have actually be seen using non proto gear in pub games .. -I get told it's CCP fault for having a broken system however it isn;t just the fault of the people who have the broken system it's also the fault of the people who abuse that system too and just because you can protostomp doesn't mean it's okay to do so. I can technically sleep with your wife does that mean it's fine if I do so because their is no rule against it ?? TL;DR If enough people put down their protogear in pubgames and point and laugh at those that don't then maybe one day Pubgames will be fun for all and not just another medium for the guys with sucky lives to feel important Man I am close to giving Top Man a reward for Biggest Forum Whining Eva (BFWE) Seriously its like every other post with you guys Top Men not Top Man ,,,, Man is singular Men is plural .. calling an alliance Top Man would only make sense if there was only 1 person in it .. I know your a R E T A R D but you just went full R E T A R D PS Aim at me not the Alliance, this is me making a point .. I know you like to wave your EPEEN around but you're a nobody just like me only difference is that I know it and you're too deluded to know it When I aim at people, I go for multi kills. Quote: I know you like to wave your EPEEN around but you're a nobody just like me only difference is that I know it and you're too deluded to know it ^ This remark just lost you a district, wanna go for seconds Ooh, someones in denial! !
SERPENT-Adamapple Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 204	Posted - 2013.10.24 22:55:00 - [65] - Quote Look at it this way: If you see a proto player(in a pub match), they have no skill and need a crutch. If they did have skill they would be challenging themselves with a lesser fit. Time and time again, if I face a proto player 1v1, most of the time I come out on top and shows how beast I am. Don't need proto anything because I'm just that good. I'll admit the only thing I use that's proto are complex damage mods, but that's to take out proto players. Kinda feel sorry for the standard players since they get taken out with no less then 5 shots from my scrambler rifle. I am the glass cannon in a proto scrubs sights, and he better know how to aim at a zig-zagging target, and not many can. I guess they think they're still playing eve and expect for the system to auto-aim for them(that's why they need a proto crutch).
Laurent Cazaderon What The French CRONOS. 1950	Posted - 2013.10.24 23:30:00 - [66] - Quote hands a box of tissue. Weird most whiners are public players only. if you're so hardcore and we're such carebears with a huge need to buff our gun game, why have we been constantly involved in PC ? And not with the worst success rate overall. Also why would players like us with 1 and half year, SP and resources bother playing with lame gear. And after all, many of you keep saying how good u are with just ADV. Then why the complaints ? Bottom line. Quit the whining. ... PS: how do you guys get so mad you go 4 pages on a topic without even one of us pitching in ?
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San 60	Posted - 2013.10.24 23:34:00 - [67] - Quote haters gonna hate
8213 Grade No.2 501	Posted - 2013.10.24 23:35:00 - [68] - Quote I made the same type of thread about Nyain San... it mysteriously got deleted off the board... That being said, What the French haven't been a problem in a looooooooooong time. They are crap players. If they were half-way decent, then they would be a more respectable corp... I don't worry when I see them in the game anymore, not since I was a noob. Of course back then, I feared any known team, or 3-6 players with the same corporation. But as I got better, you start realize the ones you have to watch for, then you realize the specific players in that corp you have to be aware of. Nyain San though... those are the guys you should be mad at. Cheap exploits over actual good play.
Mr Machine Guns Nyain San 60	Posted - 2013.10.24 23:38:00 - [69] - Quote 8213 wrote: I made the same type of thread about Nyain San... it mysteriously got deleted off the board... That being said, What the French haven't been a problem in a looooooooooong time. They are crap players. If they were half-way decent, then they would be a more respectable corp... I don't worry when I see them in the game anymore, not since I was a noob. Nyain San thought... those are the guys you should be mad at. Cheap exploits over actual good play. Here we go again with this lag thing everyone is complaining about. Heres an idea if you think our japanese players cause lag when they go to NA severs why dont you people go into the asia severs and cause the same lag you think they cause
Laurent Cazaderon What The French CRONOS. 1950	Posted - 2013.10.24 23:46:00 - [70] - Quote 8213 wrote: I made the same type of thread about Nyain San... it mysteriously got deleted off the board... That being said, What the French haven't been a problem in a looooooooooong time. They are crap players. If they were half-way decent, then they would be a more respectable corp... I don't worry when I see them in the game anymore, not since I was a noob. Of course back then, I feared any known team, or 3-6 players with the same corporation. But as I got better, you start realize the ones you have to watch for, then you realize the specific players in that corp you have to be aware of. Nyain San though... those are the guys you should be mad at. Cheap exploits over actual good play. Crap players ? Till we meet again then

Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 4180	Posted - 2013.10.24 23:48:00 - [71] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: 8213 wrote: I made the same type of thread about Nyain San... it mysteriously got deleted off the board... That being said, What the French haven't been a problem in a looooooooooong time. They are crap players. If they were half-way decent, then they would be a more respectable corp... I don't worry when I see them in the game anymore, not since I was a noob. Of course back then, I feared any known team, or 3-6 players with the same corporation. But as I got better, you start realize the ones you have to watch for, then you realize the specific players in that corp you have to be aware of. Nyain San though... those are the guys you should be mad at. Cheap exploits over actual good play. Crap players ? Till we meet again then Congratulations on getting a hate thread!
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 865	Posted - 2013.10.24 23:48:00 - [72] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: 8213 wrote: I made the same type of thread about Nyain San... it mysteriously got deleted off the board... That being said, What the French haven't been a problem in a looooooooooong time. They are crap players. If they were half-way decent, then they would be a more respectable corp... I don't worry when I see them in the game anymore, not since I was a noob. Of course back then, I feared any known team, or 3-6 players with the same corporation. But as I got better, you start realize the ones you have to watch for, then you realize the specific players in that corp you have to be aware of. Nyain San though... those are the guys you should be mad at. Cheap exploits over actual good play. Crap players ? Till we meet again then Well it can't be noobs in all those proto suits can it? You die in droves to a semi organized squad!
Laurent Cazaderon What The French CRONOS. 1950	Posted - 2013.10.24 23:49:00 - [73] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Laurent Cazaderon wrote: 8213 wrote: I made the same type of thread about Nyain San... it mysteriously got deleted off the board... That being said, What the French haven't been a problem in a looooooooooong time. They are crap players. If they were half-way decent, then they would be a more respectable corp... I don't worry when I see them in the game anymore, not since I was a noob. Of course back then, I feared any known team, or 3-6 players with the same corporation. But as I got better, you start realize the ones you have to watch for, then you realize the specific players in that corp you have to be aware of. Nyain San though... those are the guys you should be mad at. Cheap exploits over actual good play. Crap players ? Till we meet again then Congratulations on getting a hate thread! Cheers !
Cpt Merdock The Exemplars Top Men. 93	Posted - 2013.10.24 23:52:00 - [74] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: My problem with WTF isn't the proto, but the constant grenade spam and Rapid fire Mass Driving they do. Altough I can't blame them for trying to make up for their lack of gungame. So they have gun game if they use ARs? Ha.
ReGnYuM MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 1184	Posted - 2013.10.24 23:53:00 - [75] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: hands a box of tissue. Weird most whiners are public players only. if you're so hardcore and we're such carebears with a huge need to buff our gun game, why have we been constantly involved in PC ? And not with the worst success rate overall. Also why would players like us with 1 and half year, SP and resources bother playing with lame gear. And after all, many of you keep saying how good u are with just ADV. Then why the complaints ? Bottom line. Quit the whining. ... PS: how do you guys get so mad you go 4 pages on a topic without even one of us pitching in ? This is MHPD business. We ask that the CPM does not intervene
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1155	Posted - 2013.10.25 00:41:00 - [76] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: hands a box of tissue. Weird most whiners are public players only. if you're so hardcore and we're such carebears with a huge need to buff our gun game, why have we been constantly involved in PC ? And not with the worst success rate overall. Also why would players like us with 1 and half year, SP and resources bother playing with lame gear. And after all, many of you keep saying how good u are with just ADV. Then why the complaints ? Bottom line. Quit the whining. ... PS: how do you guys get so mad you go 4 pages on a topic without even one of us pitching in ? Not saying I agree with Rinzler on this one but I just have to add this, about the none of you pitching in one of your guys did a page or two ago. Also @ ReGnYuM (probably got the damn caps wrong but hey ho) We currently don't have a district but if you want you could give us one to take off us, I have fought against IE, Nyain San, TP etc... in PC and fighting against the best is the best way to learn so I would be down for a few fights against you guys. Would have to be an EU friendly time since most of us are from the UK. About the thread and post in general, I do have proto gear but I only use ADV in pub games and I believe the upcoming no ISK for FW matches will be a great change people will use their best gear in FW and run cheaper stuff in pubs to fund their efforts in FW and this may help new players. Or most people with a huge load of ISK (120mil from those reward Falchions anyone ) will still run full proto in pub games anyway. I personally don't mind going against proto in pubs, a harder match is more rewarding and more of a learning experience in my opinion. I understand where you are coming from Rinzler but I don't really think this kind of thing will help it will just get you a reputation as a QQer (which would be a shame because you are a nice bloke and a good laugh in squad) and if I know the DUST community it will make people purposefully pull out their proto gear if they recognize you in a match just to troll lol, I must admit if I see people who have been known to complain about certain tactics and I am bored/drunk I usually start trolling them for the lols. The fault is match making and the new player academy being so ridiculously short a new player joins plays half a dozen matches or so and suddenly they are fighting against anyone which obviously leads to new players getting their asses handed to them which I don't think helps retention. Note I am not in any kind of leadership position in FORIM or Top Men just wanted to share my thoughts and drop CCP another hint that the academy is absolutely naff P.S. Academy graduation points are far too low, just in-case you missed that part CCP.
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 1530	Posted - 2013.10.25 00:51:00 - [77] - Quote +Infinity for epic trolling the entire forums by getting THIS topic to 4 pages AGAIN. ... it ... IS a troll right? heh
Traky78 What The French CRONOS. 319	Posted - 2013.10.25 10:43:00 - [78] - Quote Damn it !!! Your hate mail was far more funny than your QQ thread boy... Ps : can you name me in your next you QQ thread ? I need some love
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 490	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:02:00 - [79] - Quote Man, you people are still going? Real men can standard stomp.
Minako Nakajima The Surrogates Of War 21	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:02:00 - [80] - Quote No issues fighting with protos... I use the starter fit with burst AR and +mods only. Stick to your squad/team... pick your opponents... flank and wear them down. I really don't care about KDR... i am fine in getting assists.

Import Beercase Beer For Evil Mercs 39	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:03:00 - [81] - Quote Well I only play pub games with my corp atm.. Usually only domination because it is fun. I dont think gear is the problem. I kinda like that there is different kind of players using different gear. I would like to see more squads of protogear in domination matches. Most people are only solo from big corps. Never have had any problems with better gear and better SKILLED players. If something is too powerfull against me I frontline (happens all the time) I go for support. Just my 0.2isks And about WTF I would like to see more of you in Domination
Moonrocks Stars Protect Systems Incorporation 3	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:14:00 - [82] - Quote First Point - please CCP can you moderate the title of this post : infamous and offensive for the french Dust community Second Point - you miss the case people who create a character few month ago with learning passive point and come back now ... or train with alt bonus activity point ... and with less War Points so dont crying iyou, its an little moment to pass , You will not have stopped crying when shall more be big to you and whom you will be confront with other players with more skills and equipped than you ...
Acturus Galaxy Vikingerne 151	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:26:00 - [83] - Quote Import Beercase wrote: Well I only play pub games with my corp atm.. Usually only domination because it is fun. I dont think gear is the problem. I kinda like that there is different kind of players using different gear. I would like to see more squads of protogear in domination matches. Most people are only solo from big corps. Never have had any problems with better gear and better SKILLED players. If something is too powerfull against me I frontline (happens all the time) I go for support. Just my 0.2isks And about WTF I would like to see more of you in Domination Your corp is great fun playing against in Domination, but when you deploy with several Thale snipers and proto forges destroying everying withing 200 meters of the check point it gets a bit too challenging. You are definitely not going down due to bad equipment I get to practice my forge as long as I can keep out of sight of your thale snipers.
843 Epidemic Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 347	Posted - 2013.10.25 11:37:00 - [84] - Quote Oh for god sake. When did Proto gear = Crap players? Bloody hell as if there wasn't enough for you morons to whine about. Does it suck for new players getting proto stomped? Yeah. It does. Boo ******* hoo. It is not our duty as players to nurture them like baby cattle it is supposed to be CCP's but they are the ones throwing them in the deep end. If you're whining about prototype gear then you are clearly a scrub. I can take on most protos with my advanced gear, and when I bring out my prototype it's not because I'm 'crap', but rather because I have a challenge to take on, or I am certain that I will not lose it. Why are What The French getting so much hate? I went up against them in a PC yesterady with Red Star and although they lost they all played fantastically, I don't know where this 'Mass Driver' explosive spam is coming from, as if they are the ONLY ones in the entire game that use that. If you die to prototype gear that means they are a better player than you. They would probably stomp you in ADV gear too, but they can afford to use the proto so why not? They earned it, they can use it at their disposable. Stop whining and face my proto gear like a man ;-)
olssam 62 What The French CRONOS. 68	Posted - 2013.10.25 12:46:00 - [85] - Quote 843 Epidemic wrote: Oh for god sake. When did Proto gear = Crap players? Bloody hell as if there wasn't enough for you morons to whine about. Does it suck for new players getting proto stomped? Yeah. It does. Boo ******* hoo. It is not our duty as players to nurture them like baby cattle it is supposed to be CCP's but they are the ones throwing them in the deep end. If you're whining about prototype gear then you are clearly a scrub. I can take on most protos with my advanced gear, and when I bring out my prototype it's not because I'm 'crap', but rather because I have a challenge to take on, or I am certain that I will not lose it. Why are What The French getting so much hate? I went up against them in a PC yesterady with Red Star and although they lost they all played fantastically, I don't know where this 'Mass Driver' explosive spam is coming from, as if they are the ONLY ones in the entire game that use that. If you die to prototype gear that means they are a better player than you. They would probably stomp you in ADV gear too, but they can afford to use the proto so why not? They earned it, they can use it at their disposal. Stop whining and face my proto gear like a man ;-) yes we had two wins in three fights last night vs red star. gg guys was fun
Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 186	Posted - 2013.10.25 13:44:00 - [86] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: hands a box of tissue. Weird most whiners are public players only. if you're so hardcore and we're such carebears with a huge need to buff our gun game, why have we been constantly involved in PC ? And not with the worst success rate overall. Also why would players like us with 1 and half year, SP and resources bother playing with lame gear. And after all, many of you keep saying how good u are with just ADV. Then why the complaints ? Bottom line. Quit the whining. ... PS: how do you guys get so mad you go 4 pages on a topic without even one of us pitching in ? No I'll whinge and whine and hurl abuse until it's fixed Sitting quietly in the corner gets nothing done and the simple fact is if enough people complain about it then it's more likely to get fixed, just look at AA and hit detection, they have been nerfed back to pre 1.5 due to QQ therefore the simpel fact of the matter is that the more QQ something gets the more likely CCP will fix it Protostomping pubgames constantly is wrong .. yes you can do what you like it's your ISK etc etc but it is still wrong Anyway I'm done on the matter you're a bunch of scrubs and will never change I just hope it's fixed ASAP
Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 186	Posted - 2013.10.25 13:48:00 - [87] - Quote Medic 1879 wrote: Laurent Cazaderon wrote: hands a box of tissue. Weird most whiners are public players only. if you're so hardcore and we're such carebears with a huge need to buff our gun game, why have we been constantly involved in PC ? And not with the worst success rate overall. Also why would players like us with 1 and half year, SP and resources bother playing with lame gear. And after all, many of you keep saying how good u are with just ADV. Then why the complaints ? Bottom line. Quit the whining. ... PS: how do you guys get so mad you go 4 pages on a topic without even one of us pitching in ? Not saying I agree with Rinzler on this one but I just have to add this, about the none of you pitching in one of your guys did a page or two ago. Also @ ReGnYuM (probably got the damn caps wrong but hey ho) We currently don't have a district but if you want you could give us one to take off us, I have fought against IE, Nyain San, TP etc... in PC and fighting against the best is the best way to learn so I would be down for a few fights against you guys. Would have to be an EU friendly time since most of us are from the UK. About the thread and post in general, I do have proto gear but I only use ADV in pub games and I believe the upcoming no ISK for FW matches will be a great change people will use their best gear in FW and run cheaper stuff in pubs to fund their efforts in FW and this may help new players. Or most people with a huge load of ISK (120mil from those reward Falchions anyone ) will still run full proto in pub games anyway. I personally don't mind going against proto in pubs, a harder match is more rewarding and more of a learning experience in my opinion. I understand where you are coming from Rinzler but I don't really think this kind of thing will help it will just get you a reputation as a QQer (which would be a shame because you are a nice bloke and a good laugh in squad) and if I know the DUST community it will make people purposefully pull out their proto gear if they recognize you in a match just to troll lol, I must admit if I see people who have been known to complain about certain tactics and I am bored/drunk I usually start trolling them for the lols. The fault is match making and the new player academy being so ridiculously short a new player joins plays half a dozen matches or so and suddenly they are fighting against anyone which obviously leads to new players getting their asses handed to them which I don't think helps retention. Note I am not in any kind of leadership position in FORIM or Top Men just wanted to share my thoughts and drop CCP another hint that the academy is absolutely naff P.S. Academy graduation points are far too low, just in-case you missed that part CCP. I have to come to the forums to whinge and whine, If i could physically kick the crap out of the ppl who annoy me i'd be fine but I can't and therefore I need a medium to express my anger and it's better for me to lay into the ppl who **** me off on a forum than whinge over comms during a match
Kazeno Rannaa BIG BAD W0LVES 291	Posted - 2013.10.25 13:52:00 - [88] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Now as contradictory as this is going to sound! I am a 100% AGAINST gear based match making, period you will never change my mind in such a matter, but groups that protostomp are a problem. The current matchmaking systemnworks by grouping people together based in the strength of their connection. Niw as useful as this is we need another layer above this. People need to grouped by skill level. This does not mean SP Total Or time playin It mm is based on the average performance of the player including KDR, WP, TOL and isk profit. Will solvenour problems Monkey, If the matchmaking is based on connection, then why is it that I am perpetually in matches with the Japanese and Russian plays along with the laggy French? I find the presumption to be a bit unfounded and reaching. From what I have seen the matchmaking is rooted around timing and slots needed to be filled in a match, nothing more. Maybe that is the problem.
Rinzler XVII Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 186	Posted - 2013.10.25 13:58:00 - [89] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Rinzler XVII wrote: Constantly running full proto in pubgames ? You should be given a reward as the biggest reason why new players quit this game, seriously everyone show your appreciation by joining me in a very slow clap Clap -I don't mind you doing it v us, you lose a hell of a lot of ISK when you come up against us in ADV gear but when it comes to people new out of the academy being steamrolled by 6 people in full proto in top tier vehicles with proto mods its overkill -Yes congratulations you can kill kittens using a sledgehammer but enough is enough, try using ADV once in a while or go do your protoscrubbing in FW/PC v other people using proto .. it begs the question .. is the only reason you can get kills because your in proto v new players and when you're up against people at your level you get decimated ? -Yes yes it's their gear, their ISK they can do what they want but if that means sacrificing 10,000 potential players just so they can have a few minutes redlining the opposition is it really worth it ? -CCP if you are so intent on bug fixes etc over adding new content then do something about the protostomping in pubgames it's out of hand and is seriously damaging your game, every single review i've looked at of this game says the same thing ... it's about as attractive a game to play for a new player as it is to slam your head with a car door .. Yes I know someone will say HTFU New Eden is tough ... but this kind of tough is the equivalent of putting a new born baby in a forest in alaska and leaving it there to survive saying HTFU ... -WTF aren't the only people who do this however most of the other corps that have a tendency to run full proto do most of it in FW/PC and have actually be seen using non proto gear in pub games .. -I get told it's CCP fault for having a broken system however it isn;t just the fault of the people who have the broken system it's also the fault of the people who abuse that system too and just because you can protostomp doesn't mean it's okay to do so. I can technically sleep with your wife does that mean it's fine if I do so because their is no rule against it ?? TL;DR If enough people put down their protogear in pubgames and point and laugh at those that don't then maybe one day Pubgames will be fun for all and not just another medium for the guys with sucky lives to feel important Man I am close to giving Top Man a reward for Biggest Forum Whining Eva (BFWE) Seriously its like every other post with you guys Top Men not Top Man ,,,, Man is singular Men is plural .. calling an alliance Top Man would only make sense if there was only 1 person in it .. I know your a R E T A R D but you just went full R E T A R D PS Aim at me not the Alliance, this is me making a point .. I know you like to wave your EPEEN around but you're a nobody just like me only difference is that I know it and you're too deluded to know it When I aim at people, I go for multi kills. Quote: I know you like to wave your EPEEN around but you're a nobody just like me only difference is that I know it and you're too deluded to know it ^ This remark just lost you a district, wanna go for seconds So you attacked my wife and kids and my house whilst I was away .. yeah .. the work of a tough guy ... PS did Forsaken even have a district ? I know 1 of the alliance corps got a district last night but I don;t remember Forsaken even having 1 to lose ... Oh no you took away something I didn't even know we had ... It's funny that you'd go to all that effort due to little old me .. I'm a nobody remember xD
Kazeno Rannaa BIG BAD W0LVES 291	Posted - 2013.10.25 14:07:00 - [90] - Quote Laurent Cazaderon wrote: hands a box of tissue. Weird most whiners are public players only. if you're so hardcore and we're such carebears with a huge need to buff our gun game, why have we been constantly involved in PC ? And not with the worst success rate overall. Also why would players like us with 1 and half year, SP and resources bother playing with lame gear. And after all, many of you keep saying how good u are with just ADV. Then why the complaints ? Bottom line. Quit the whining. ... PS: how do you guys get so mad you go 4 pages on a topic without even one of us pitching in ? I find it very interesting that as a member that sits on the CPM that you can be so dismissive towards your constituents. I thought you were supposed to represent us to CCP, not brow beat us with your obnoxious take on reality. OHH! wait,m thatGÇÖs right!!! Your entitled and better than the rest of us because you have territory in PC, right?!?!?! Most of that territory was maintained by the players of CRONOS, not just your player base from WTF. And WTF is right when out comes to a person looking at the words being spewed from your virtual lips and the words on these forum pages. Laurent, there has not been a time that I have read your forum posts and thought, WTF! Just because you are good in this game doesnGÇÖt make you either a good person to have on the CPM representing this community, nor does it make you a good person, nor an expert to run around being the crow calling the raven black. Get off your high horse. A problem perceived is a problem jun reality to the person seeing it. At least have the common decency that was given a horse to see that, or at least I would hope so. But then again, your actions constantly show that you donGÇÖe have that. The most unfortunate thing about most of the actively posting members of the CPM is that you seem to be failing at one major thing; LISTENING to the COMMUNITY. Instead you attempt to act the brutal father figure.Why? On another note, Rinzler XVII, GG yesterday. That was funny. I thought I saw you in match. That one was fun. Keep it up.



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