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Y Wonder
Die Valkyrja Pangu Coalition
3
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Posted - 2013.10.24 09:01:00 -
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In my corporation, the top-killer and top-tanker are always the logiistics, especially the ak.0. When im dying, needing injector, my logi friend is killing. When im out of ammo having to return to supply, my logi friend is killing. When my logi friend and i are both out of armor, i have to avoid behind wall like a scaring cat and beg someone's repairing, while he still killing at frontline after some seconds break. When i request repairing, he may answer "whats the repair tool? why i need to equip it?" Damn it
Let's see the difference between assault and logistics. For example, Assault ck.0 has 4High,3Low,1Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, 11 Slots in total. While Logistics ak.0 has 3High,4Low,3Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, same number of powered and weapon slots but 2 more equipment slots than assault. Everything assault does, so does the logistics. Everything logistics does......Do you have so many equipments, my assault friend?
I think a true logistics should be the assistant away from frontline, helping his team with various equipments, instead of killing at frontline as an undead monster and making his assault friend embarrassed.
So, if we turn the lightweapon slot of logistics dropsuit to a in-built repair tool, they have to put their attention into assisting their teammates. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1915
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Posted - 2013.10.24 09:12:00 -
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Didn't you heard ? Logis are in strike.... the "Logi Revolution" if you will...we getting a bit tired of been in the Nerf Hammer scope all the time. So if you want a Repair, use Repair Modules.... if you want ammo, equip you own Hives... if you want a revive.. well... **** off. |
m twiggz
Eternal Beings
101
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Posted - 2013.10.24 09:13:00 -
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This has been brought up so many times it's ridiculous. Your idea is beyond stupid. I won't go into vast detail like I have so many times before. The logistics suits are meant to be "combat medics" not a mobile hospital. Use armor repair or triage nano hives, or better yet just quit complaining and play the game. |
m twiggz
Eternal Beings
101
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Posted - 2013.10.24 09:14:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Didn't you heard ? Logis are in strike.... the "Logi Revolution" if you will...we getting a bit tired of been in the Nerf Hammer scope all the time. So if you want a Repair, use Repair Module.... if you want ammo, equip you own Hives... if you wan't a revive.. well... **** off.
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Den-tredje Baron
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
243
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Posted - 2013.10.24 09:28:00 -
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Y Wonder wrote:In my corporation, the top-killer and top-tanker are always the logiistics, especially the ak.0. When im dying, needing injector, my logi friend is killing. When im out of ammo having to return to supply, my logi friend is killing. When my logi friend and i are both out of armor, i have to avoid behind wall like a scaring cat and beg someone's repairing, while he still killing at frontline after some seconds break. When i request repairing, he may answer "whats the repair tool? why i need to equip it?" Damn it Let's see the difference between assault and logistics. For example, Assault ck.0 has 4High,3Low,1Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, 11 Slots in total. While Logistics ak.0 has 3High,4Low,3Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, same number of powered and weapon slots but 2 more equipment slots than assault. Everything assault does, so does the logistics. Everything logistics does......Do you have so many equipments, my assault friend? I think a true logistics should be the assistant away from frontline, helping his team with various equipments, instead of killing at frontline as an undead monster and making his assault friend embarrassed. So, if we turn the lightweapon slot of logistics dropsuit to a in-built repair tool, they have to put their attention into assisting their teammates.
Just stop it ....... Everbody join the bill to nerf caldari assaults and give them one less low slot !!! ^^ see that's just as big a joke as what you're writing.
it's a LOGISTICS suit. Not your personal medic, it's meant to be the most versatile unit !!
BUT because it's versatile the drawbacks are that it's slower and has lower base health than the assault.
Instead of proposing such an stupid idea you might want to look into changing logistics base stats instead of forcing them to always carry a rep tool !!
Which by the way is really hard to use becase CCP HAVEN'T GIVEN US THE HEALTH BARS BACK YET !!! so unless we aim at we don't know you'r in low armour.... |
FORGE GUNEG
Die Valkyrja Pangu Coalition
0
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Posted - 2013.10.24 09:39:00 -
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we are fighter who wore logilstics suit.............. .............lol.............. |
FORGE GUNEG
Die Valkyrja Pangu Coalition
0
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Posted - 2013.10.24 09:47:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Didn't you heard ? Logis are in strike.... the "Logi Revolution" if you will...we getting a bit tired of been in the Nerf Hammer scope all the time. So if you want a Repair, use Repair Modules.... if you want ammo, equip you own Hives... if you want a revive.. well... **** off. hi,just cool down ,friend that Y WONDER just taked a joke............ |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1917
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Posted - 2013.10.24 09:47:00 -
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Den-tredje Baron wrote:Y Wonder wrote:In my corporation, the top-killer and top-tanker are always the logiistics, especially the ak.0. When im dying, needing injector, my logi friend is killing. When im out of ammo having to return to supply, my logi friend is killing. When my logi friend and i are both out of armor, i have to avoid behind wall like a scaring cat and beg someone's repairing, while he still killing at frontline after some seconds break. When i request repairing, he may answer "whats the repair tool? why i need to equip it?" Damn it Let's see the difference between assault and logistics. For example, Assault ck.0 has 4High,3Low,1Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, 11 Slots in total. While Logistics ak.0 has 3High,4Low,3Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, same number of powered and weapon slots but 2 more equipment slots than assault. Everything assault does, so does the logistics. Everything logistics does......Do you have so many equipments, my assault friend? I think a true logistics should be the assistant away from frontline, helping his team with various equipments, instead of killing at frontline as an undead monster and making his assault friend embarrassed. So, if we turn the lightweapon slot of logistics dropsuit to a in-built repair tool, they have to put their attention into assisting their teammates. Just stop it ....... Everbody join the bill to nerf caldari assaults and give them one less low slot !!! ^^ see that's just as big a joke as what you're writing. it's a LOGISTICS suit. Not your personal medic, it's meant to be the most versatile unit !! BUT because it's versatile the drawbacks are that it's slower and has lower base health than the assault. Instead of proposing such an stupid idea you might want to look into changing logistics base stats instead of forcing them to always carry a rep tool !! Which by the way is really hard to use becase CCP HAVEN'T GIVEN US THE HEALTH BARS BACK YET !!! so unless we aim at we don't know you'r in low armour....
Yeah... this...that is the reason why i stopped using Repair tools; Accurately aim at you Team-mates head before you shoot..... i meant before you "Repair" them.
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Timothy Reaper
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL The Ascendancy
479
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Posted - 2013.10.24 09:48:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Didn't you heard ? Logis are in strike.... the "Logi Revolution" if you will...we getting a bit tired of been in the Nerf Hammer scope all the time. So if you want a Repair, use Repair Modules.... if you want ammo, equip you own Hives... if you want a revive.. well... **** off. I guess that makes me a Scab . But seriously Mr. Wonder, your idea is absurd. Let's say your squad gets into a fire fight with the enemy. when it's over the only ones left standing are a red dot and your logi. Who's going to protect him while he picks everyone up? The reasons you listed all focuse on you, but winning the match requires the whole team, and sometimes logis have to decide who to save and who is beyond help. Are there crappy logis? Yes. Does something need to be done about it? Maybe, but your suggestion would nerf logis into oblivion. |
Aaroniero d'Lioncourt
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
214
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Posted - 2013.10.24 09:48:00 -
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FORGE GUNEG wrote:we are fighter who wore logilstics suit.............. .............lol..............
hahaha!! ....what? |
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Kal Kronos
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
88
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Posted - 2013.10.24 09:51:00 -
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I have both suits, I like my assaults because we don't normally need 5 logis in a squad. Also my assault suit is around 10-15 cheaper, when I run assault I make a lot more isk. When I run logi it is because my squad is short on them or that I want to run 2 complex dam. mods on my Duv, my assault can only run 1 lol. My scr/sub class is by far my favorite and most cost effective, I find these assault logi threads funny though. |
BrownEye1129
Death In Xcess Corporation
106
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Posted - 2013.10.24 09:51:00 -
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How hard is it to look at your squadies after a fire fight to see who needs health?? Me thinks you are just being lazy. I haven't had a problem picking out who needs reps. Maybe I'm just playing logi right. Supporting my squadies and helping with the killing. Average kills 10-20 a game with 1-5 deaths. WPs ranging anywhere from 1500-2500 a match. Seems right. If the assaults want to take off with 50 armor who am I to stop them. I'll rep you if you fall back and let someone else take point. If you are that blood thristy that you can't wait 5 secs for me to cycle through my reps well I'll hit you with a needle when the rest of us at full health advance. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
6395
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Posted - 2013.10.24 09:54:00 -
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Are we seriously doing this **** again?! |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1917
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Posted - 2013.10.24 09:58:00 -
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Timothy Reaper wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Didn't you heard ? Logis are in strike.... the "Logi Revolution" if you will...we getting a bit tired of been in the Nerf Hammer scope all the time. So if you want a Repair, use Repair Modules.... if you want ammo, equip you own Hives... if you want a revive.. well... **** off. I guess that makes me a Scab . But seriously Mr. Wonder, your idea is absurd. Let's say your squad gets into a fire fight with the enemy. When it's over the only ones left standing are a red dot and your logi. Who's going to protect him while he picks everyone up? The reasons you listed all focuse on you, but winning the match requires the whole team, and sometimes logis have to decide who to save and who is beyond help. Are there crappy logis? Yes. Does something need to be done about it? Maybe, but your suggestion would nerf logis into oblivion.
Logis are pretty useless right now anyway ... with the Reactive Armor Modules, the one equipment slot that almost all the classes have, and the poor reviving mechanics... is not need for a Logi.
Logis used to be essential in the battlefield ... but not anymore. A couple of reactive modules... and i am fully self sufficient in battle, no need to have a logi following me around. |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY
814
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Posted - 2013.10.24 10:03:00 -
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Y Wonder wrote:In my corporation, the top-killer and top-tanker are always the logiistics, especially the ak.0. When im dying, needing injector, my logi friend is killing. When im out of ammo having to return to supply, my logi friend is killing. When my logi friend and i are both out of armor, i have to avoid behind wall like a scaring cat and beg someone's repairing, while he still killing at frontline after some seconds break. When i request repairing, he may answer "whats the repair tool? why i need to equip it?" Damn it Just find better friends, it's easier than changing a suit. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
6396
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Posted - 2013.10.24 10:05:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:Y Wonder wrote:In my corporation, the top-killer and top-tanker are always the logiistics, especially the ak.0. When im dying, needing injector, my logi friend is killing. When im out of ammo having to return to supply, my logi friend is killing. When my logi friend and i are both out of armor, i have to avoid behind wall like a scaring cat and beg someone's repairing, while he still killing at frontline after some seconds break. When i request repairing, he may answer "whats the repair tool? why i need to equip it?" Damn it Just find better friends, it's easier than changing a suit. Better yet, pick up the slack. Sounds like your friend is outclassing you because he's a better player, and not because of his magical yellow suit. |
Vitharr Foebane
Blood Money Mercenaries
140
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Posted - 2013.10.24 10:06:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Timothy Reaper wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Didn't you heard ? Logis are in strike.... the "Logi Revolution" if you will...we getting a bit tired of been in the Nerf Hammer scope all the time. So if you want a Repair, use Repair Modules.... if you want ammo, equip you own Hives... if you want a revive.. well... **** off. I guess that makes me a Scab . But seriously Mr. Wonder, your idea is absurd. Let's say your squad gets into a fire fight with the enemy. When it's over the only ones left standing are a red dot and your logi. Who's going to protect him while he picks everyone up? The reasons you listed all focuse on you, but winning the match requires the whole team, and sometimes logis have to decide who to save and who is beyond help. Are there crappy logis? Yes. Does something need to be done about it? Maybe, but your suggestion would nerf logis into oblivion. Logis are pretty useless right now anyway ... with the Reactive Armor Modules, the one equipment slot that almost all the classes have, and the poor reviving mechanics... is not need for a Logi. Logis used to be essential in the battlefield ... but not anymore. A couple of reactive modules... and i am fully self sufficient in battle, no need to have a logi following me around. Heavies still love a rep logi ya know... |
FORGE GUNEG
Die Valkyrja Pangu Coalition
0
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Posted - 2013.10.24 10:06:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Timothy Reaper wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Didn't you heard ? Logis are in strike.... the "Logi Revolution" if you will...we getting a bit tired of been in the Nerf Hammer scope all the time. So if you want a Repair, use Repair Modules.... if you want ammo, equip you own Hives... if you want a revive.. well... **** off. I guess that makes me a Scab . But seriously Mr. Wonder, your idea is absurd. Let's say your squad gets into a fire fight with the enemy. When it's over the only ones left standing are a red dot and your logi. Who's going to protect him while he picks everyone up? The reasons you listed all focuse on you, but winning the match requires the whole team, and sometimes logis have to decide who to save and who is beyond help. Are there crappy logis? Yes. Does something need to be done about it? Maybe, but your suggestion would nerf logis into oblivion. Logis are pretty useless right now anyway ... with the Reactive Armor Modules, the one equipment slot that almost all the classes have, and the poor reviving mechanics... is not need for a Logi. Logis used to be essential in the battlefield ... but not anymore. A couple of reactive modules... and i am fully self sufficient in battle, no need to have a logi following me around.
I think the best suit for now is the logi gk.0 and ak.0 they are strong and with high damage weapons
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Mregomies
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
85
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Posted - 2013.10.24 10:09:00 -
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I'm proud to be caldari logistic! I spam DL (then kill), drop hives (then kill) and scan for my squad (then kill). goddamned! stop QQ about logistics... |
Cosgar
ParagonX
6397
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Posted - 2013.10.24 10:09:00 -
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FORGE GUNEG wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Timothy Reaper wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Didn't you heard ? Logis are in strike.... the "Logi Revolution" if you will...we getting a bit tired of been in the Nerf Hammer scope all the time. So if you want a Repair, use Repair Modules.... if you want ammo, equip you own Hives... if you want a revive.. well... **** off. I guess that makes me a Scab . But seriously Mr. Wonder, your idea is absurd. Let's say your squad gets into a fire fight with the enemy. When it's over the only ones left standing are a red dot and your logi. Who's going to protect him while he picks everyone up? The reasons you listed all focuse on you, but winning the match requires the whole team, and sometimes logis have to decide who to save and who is beyond help. Are there crappy logis? Yes. Does something need to be done about it? Maybe, but your suggestion would nerf logis into oblivion. Logis are pretty useless right now anyway ... with the Reactive Armor Modules, the one equipment slot that almost all the classes have, and the poor reviving mechanics... is not need for a Logi. Logis used to be essential in the battlefield ... but not anymore. A couple of reactive modules... and i am fully self sufficient in battle, no need to have a logi following me around. I think the best suit for now is the logi gk.0 and ak.0 they are strong and with high damage weapons Wow, I didn't know that a weapon suddenly deals more damage when it's in a logi's hands. |
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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1919
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Posted - 2013.10.24 10:09:00 -
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FORGE GUNEG wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Timothy Reaper wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Didn't you heard ? Logis are in strike.... the "Logi Revolution" if you will...we getting a bit tired of been in the Nerf Hammer scope all the time. So if you want a Repair, use Repair Modules.... if you want ammo, equip you own Hives... if you want a revive.. well... **** off. I guess that makes me a Scab . But seriously Mr. Wonder, your idea is absurd. Let's say your squad gets into a fire fight with the enemy. When it's over the only ones left standing are a red dot and your logi. Who's going to protect him while he picks everyone up? The reasons you listed all focuse on you, but winning the match requires the whole team, and sometimes logis have to decide who to save and who is beyond help. Are there crappy logis? Yes. Does something need to be done about it? Maybe, but your suggestion would nerf logis into oblivion. Logis are pretty useless right now anyway ... with the Reactive Armor Modules, the one equipment slot that almost all the classes have, and the poor reviving mechanics... is not need for a Logi. Logis used to be essential in the battlefield ... but not anymore. A couple of reactive modules... and i am fully self sufficient in battle, no need to have a logi following me around. I think the best suit for now is the logi gk.0 and ak.0 they are strong and with high damage weapons
Not really... the Assault Protos have considerably much higher HP, better movement and speed.
The Logi protos being the best suit, is just an Urban Legend created by the Nerf Patrol. |
BrownEye1129
Death In Xcess Corporation
106
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Posted - 2013.10.24 10:12:00 -
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FORGE GUNEG wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Timothy Reaper wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Didn't you heard ? Logis are in strike.... the "Logi Revolution" if you will...we getting a bit tired of been in the Nerf Hammer scope all the time. So if you want a Repair, use Repair Modules.... if you want ammo, equip you own Hives... if you want a revive.. well... **** off. I guess that makes me a Scab . But seriously Mr. Wonder, your idea is absurd. Let's say your squad gets into a fire fight with the enemy. When it's over the only ones left standing are a red dot and your logi. Who's going to protect him while he picks everyone up? The reasons you listed all focuse on you, but winning the match requires the whole team, and sometimes logis have to decide who to save and who is beyond help. Are there crappy logis? Yes. Does something need to be done about it? Maybe, but your suggestion would nerf logis into oblivion. Logis are pretty useless right now anyway ... with the Reactive Armor Modules, the one equipment slot that almost all the classes have, and the poor reviving mechanics... is not need for a Logi. Logis used to be essential in the battlefield ... but not anymore. A couple of reactive modules... and i am fully self sufficient in battle, no need to have a logi following me around. I think the best suit for now is the logi gk.0 and ak.0 they are strong and with high damage weapons
WHAT!!?! They are strong with high damage mods.....wtf does that mean. You can put complex damage mods on any suit. |
FORGE GUNEG
Die Valkyrja Pangu Coalition
0
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Posted - 2013.10.24 10:12:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:FORGE GUNEG wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Timothy Reaper wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Didn't you heard ? Logis are in strike.... the "Logi Revolution" if you will...we getting a bit tired of been in the Nerf Hammer scope all the time. So if you want a Repair, use Repair Modules.... if you want ammo, equip you own Hives... if you want a revive.. well... **** off. I guess that makes me a Scab . But seriously Mr. Wonder, your idea is absurd. Let's say your squad gets into a fire fight with the enemy. When it's over the only ones left standing are a red dot and your logi. Who's going to protect him while he picks everyone up? The reasons you listed all focuse on you, but winning the match requires the whole team, and sometimes logis have to decide who to save and who is beyond help. Are there crappy logis? Yes. Does something need to be done about it? Maybe, but your suggestion would nerf logis into oblivion. Logis are pretty useless right now anyway ... with the Reactive Armor Modules, the one equipment slot that almost all the classes have, and the poor reviving mechanics... is not need for a Logi. Logis used to be essential in the battlefield ... but not anymore. A couple of reactive modules... and i am fully self sufficient in battle, no need to have a logi following me around. I think the best suit for now is the logi gk.0 and ak.0 they are strong and with high damage weapons Wow, I didn't know that a weapon suddenly deals more damage when it's in a logi's hands. logister can have high eph and high damage same time..........
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Mregomies
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
85
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Posted - 2013.10.24 10:14:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:FORGE GUNEG wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Timothy Reaper wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Didn't you heard ? Logis are in strike.... the "Logi Revolution" if you will...we getting a bit tired of been in the Nerf Hammer scope all the time. So if you want a Repair, use Repair Modules.... if you want ammo, equip you own Hives... if you want a revive.. well... **** off. I guess that makes me a Scab . But seriously Mr. Wonder, your idea is absurd. Let's say your squad gets into a fire fight with the enemy. When it's over the only ones left standing are a red dot and your logi. Who's going to protect him while he picks everyone up? The reasons you listed all focuse on you, but winning the match requires the whole team, and sometimes logis have to decide who to save and who is beyond help. Are there crappy logis? Yes. Does something need to be done about it? Maybe, but your suggestion would nerf logis into oblivion. Logis are pretty useless right now anyway ... with the Reactive Armor Modules, the one equipment slot that almost all the classes have, and the poor reviving mechanics... is not need for a Logi. Logis used to be essential in the battlefield ... but not anymore. A couple of reactive modules... and i am fully self sufficient in battle, no need to have a logi following me around. I think the best suit for now is the logi gk.0 and ak.0 they are strong and with high damage weapons Not really... the Assault Protos have considerably much higher HP, better movement and speed. The Logi protos being the best suit, is just an Urban Legend created by the Nerf Patrol. I'm also spec in to proto cal assault to be faster and more deadly. |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1415
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Posted - 2013.10.24 10:17:00 -
[25] - Quote
-_-
you wouldnt get more logi's, you would get more assault suit users lol |
Cosgar
ParagonX
6398
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Posted - 2013.10.24 10:19:00 -
[26] - Quote
FORGE GUNEG wrote:logister can have high eph and high damage same time.......... Assaults get better base stats, two weapons, (which equates to more DPS) and their fittings are significantly cheaper. |
BrownEye1129
Death In Xcess Corporation
106
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Posted - 2013.10.24 10:21:00 -
[27] - Quote
So I run a logi with no shield extenders or armor bc I got codebreakers and kinetic (oh wtf the sprint increase one) dampeners and a few damage mods on my suit. Am I doing it wrong? Or right.... |
FORGE GUNEG
Die Valkyrja Pangu Coalition
0
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Posted - 2013.10.24 10:22:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:FORGE GUNEG wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Timothy Reaper wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Didn't you heard ? Logis are in strike.... the "Logi Revolution" if you will...we getting a bit tired of been in the Nerf Hammer scope all the time. So if you want a Repair, use Repair Modules.... if you want ammo, equip you own Hives... if you want a revive.. well... **** off. I guess that makes me a Scab . But seriously Mr. Wonder, your idea is absurd. Let's say your squad gets into a fire fight with the enemy. When it's over the only ones left standing are a red dot and your logi. Who's going to protect him while he picks everyone up? The reasons you listed all focuse on you, but winning the match requires the whole team, and sometimes logis have to decide who to save and who is beyond help. Are there crappy logis? Yes. Does something need to be done about it? Maybe, but your suggestion would nerf logis into oblivion. Logis are pretty useless right now anyway ... with the Reactive Armor Modules, the one equipment slot that almost all the classes have, and the poor reviving mechanics... is not need for a Logi. Logis used to be essential in the battlefield ... but not anymore. A couple of reactive modules... and i am fully self sufficient in battle, no need to have a logi following me around. I think the best suit for now is the logi gk.0 and ak.0 they are strong and with high damage weapons Not really... the Assault Protos have considerably much higher HP, better movement and speed. The Logi protos being the best suit, is just an Urban Legend created by the Nerf Patrol. please dont tell me u dont have any amor plants or shield extenders .......... |
Broonfondle Majikthies
Bannana Boat Corp
349
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Posted - 2013.10.24 10:22:00 -
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Logistics = Supply and transport. We're not medics, we just carry a lot of tools that can be used to revive and fix ppl.
When I run Assault I carry my own hives. I also sometimes carry a rep tool. When my skills are high enough I'll also carry a (decent) injector - Whatever that battlefield situation.
If you want reps ask a squad mate to carry one, it doesn't have to be a logi |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1919
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Posted - 2013.10.24 10:26:00 -
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FORGE GUNEG wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:FORGE GUNEG wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Timothy Reaper wrote:I guess that makes me a Scab . But seriously Mr. Wonder, your idea is absurd. Let's say your squad gets into a fire fight with the enemy. When it's over the only ones left standing are a red dot and your logi. Who's going to protect him while he picks everyone up? The reasons you listed all focuse on you, but winning the match requires the whole team, and sometimes logis have to decide who to save and who is beyond help. Are there crappy logis? Yes. Does something need to be done about it? Maybe, but your suggestion would nerf logis into oblivion. Logis are pretty useless right now anyway ... with the Reactive Armor Modules, the one equipment slot that almost all the classes have, and the poor reviving mechanics... is not need for a Logi. Logis used to be essential in the battlefield ... but not anymore. A couple of reactive modules... and i am fully self sufficient in battle, no need to have a logi following me around. I think the best suit for now is the logi gk.0 and ak.0 they are strong and with high damage weapons Not really... the Assault Protos have considerably much higher HP, better movement and speed. The Logi protos being the best suit, is just an Urban Legend created by the Nerf Patrol. please dont tell me u dont have any amor plants or shield extenders ..........
Look at the stats ...you can see it with your own eyes. The only advantage the Logi proto have is more equipment slots, but you pay for them with HP and movement... and also only one weapon slot. |
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
262
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Posted - 2013.10.24 10:38:00 -
[31] - Quote
Not this stupid idea again. What comes next? Scouts only allowed to use sidearms? |
Cosgar
ParagonX
6401
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Posted - 2013.10.24 10:43:00 -
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Reserved for responses to any other dumbass "Herp derp, nerf logis" propaganda. |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
238
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Posted - 2013.10.24 10:43:00 -
[33] - Quote
Dude, the answer is very simple. You don't need to change the logi suit - what you need is an actual logi on your team.
(Contrariwise, if he does play logistics properly, and just happens to be better at killing than you, well... Time to git gud! the day of the killer bees ended when they took that crazy shield extender bonus off the CalLogi) |
Paran Tadec
Ancient Exiles
1478
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Posted - 2013.10.24 10:53:00 -
[34] - Quote
Y Wonder wrote:In my corporation, the top-killer and top-tanker are always the logiistics, especially the ak.0. When im dying, needing injector, my logi friend is killing. When im out of ammo having to return to supply, my logi friend is killing. When my logi friend and i are both out of armor, i have to avoid behind wall like a scaring cat and beg someone's repairing, while he still killing at frontline after some seconds break. When i request repairing, he may answer "whats the repair tool? why i need to equip it?" Damn it Let's see the difference between assault and logistics. For example, Assault ck.0 has 4High,3Low,1Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, 11 Slots in total. While Logistics ak.0 has 3High,4Low,3Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, same number of powered and weapon slots but 2 more equipment slots than assault. Everything assault does, so does the logistics. Everything logistics does......Do you have so many equipments, my assault friend? I think a true logistics should be the assistant away from frontline, helping his team with various equipments, instead of killing at frontline as an undead monster and making his assault friend embarrassed. So, if we turn the lightweapon slot of logistics dropsuit to a in-built repair tool, they have to put their attention into assisting their teammates.
remove assault equipment slot first. |
elric the enchanter
xCosmic Voidx Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
213
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Posted - 2013.10.24 11:48:00 -
[35] - Quote
Why would you have me give up a playstyle I really enjoy because you resent being out performed by someone wearing a similar suit to me? Been a logi since closed beta as I fully admit my gun-game is not the best, and revel in the flexibility of the 'support' role.
Have proto'd all equipment except explosives and scanners and I always fit equipment before protection, to best support my squad/team. As a result of the expense of fitting the best equipment I can, I have also skilled up my weapons of choice to best protect said investment. If I get the chance to actually take a few enemy out before I die, why should I be denied the opportunity?
If you have logis in your corp, ask them nicely to actually play as logis - I will always switch out to medic, scanner, uplink suits etc depending on the situation or squad requirements. |
Repe Susi
Rautaleijona Top Men.
726
|
Posted - 2013.10.24 11:51:00 -
[36] - Quote
elric the enchanter wrote:
Hehe. Your Alliance initials spell ****.
hehehehe.
EDIT: Censored? Really? ****. |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
1135
|
Posted - 2013.10.24 11:53:00 -
[37] - Quote
I'd rather have the repair tool as a light weapon with the ability to damage opponents and steal their life energy.
Then maybe I'd agree. |
RydogV
Shadow Company HQ
480
|
Posted - 2013.10.24 12:00:00 -
[38] - Quote
Sounds like you need a new Logi friend. Blame the man not the suit.
PS: I do not support your idea or any other that prevents me from defending myself.
~Logi For Life~ |
elric the enchanter
xCosmic Voidx Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
213
|
Posted - 2013.10.24 12:02:00 -
[39] - Quote
Repe Susi wrote:elric the enchanter wrote: Hehe. Your Alliance initials spell ****. hehehehe. EDIT: Censored? Really? ****. Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage off... oh yeah so it does |
RydogV
Shadow Company HQ
480
|
Posted - 2013.10.24 12:13:00 -
[40] - Quote
Den-tredje Baron wrote:you might want to look into changing logistics base stats instead of forcing them to always carry a rep tool !!
Which by the way is really hard to use becase CCP HAVEN'T GIVEN US THE HEALTH BARS BACK YET !!! so unless we aim at you we don't know you'r in low armour....
^THIS
I recommend anyone who is unhappy with Logi repair tool service, go ahead and pick up a few Militia Repair Tools and carry them around for a day of game play. See how "easy" it is to heal your teammates with one. I risk my dropsuit all the time running around in the middle of a fight, just trying to SEE who needs repair. And it is not like you can ask folks to stand still while you are just trying to get a proper look at their health status. Since the update where health bars where more hidden it has been a tough time making a go as a triage focused Logi.
I still carry my repair tool, frustrating as it may be. Because I have hope that at some point CCP will fix the issue. And I do not want to lose my equipment muscle memory and then have to retrain my brain again later on. |
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
653
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Posted - 2013.10.24 12:20:00 -
[41] - Quote
Logistics isn't even repper or medic. This game got it right. EVE defines logi as repper only.
Logistics is about supplies and that's exactly how I'm gonna play it. Nanos, links and scans.
Reviving in this game is a joke. Players need to be able to inject themselves for a free life. I've found repping/reviving such a waste. Usually, ppl aren't anywhere near where you are at and I can't stand being revived only to be shot right back down.
Just make me almost dead for a few seconds so I can give myself the ol' "Epinephrine autoinjector". |
dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1911
|
Posted - 2013.10.24 12:58:00 -
[42] - Quote
Not reading all this blurf.
such an absurd thread logi can fill many roles not all will have reps |
Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
264
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Posted - 2013.10.24 13:13:00 -
[43] - Quote
Oh yeah forgot to mention that we cant see HP bars from our team? So how would i be aible to know who needs rep and who doesnt? The whole idea is stupid as hell. And dont come with the EVE BS. On eve you can stay like 60km away and still rep your mate. While you need to be like max 15 meters away on dust to even think about repairing anybody. Sorry but this is a gruesome battlefield where logistics need to be aible to defend themself. Otherwise you would go "oh look a guy in a yellow suit... FREE KILL!!!" Taking away the gun from logis would make them instantly extinct over night. |
Raven Shadowkill
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
21
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Posted - 2013.10.24 14:03:00 -
[44] - Quote
My only complaint about logi suits is why do they have more hi/low slots than their assault counterparts. For example the gallente logi has 5 lows but the assault only has 4. Logi suits already are extremely flexible with high fitting and equipment slots. So why the extra discrepancy of more hi/lows? Just makes logiassault even more tempting for any assault player. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
480
|
Posted - 2013.10.24 17:07:00 -
[45] - Quote
Den-tredje Baron wrote:Y Wonder wrote:In my corporation, the top-killer and top-tanker are always the logiistics, especially the ak.0. When im dying, needing injector, my logi friend is killing. When im out of ammo having to return to supply, my logi friend is killing. When my logi friend and i are both out of armor, i have to avoid behind wall like a scaring cat and beg someone's repairing, while he still killing at frontline after some seconds break. When i request repairing, he may answer "whats the repair tool? why i need to equip it?" Damn it Let's see the difference between assault and logistics. For example, Assault ck.0 has 4High,3Low,1Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, 11 Slots in total. While Logistics ak.0 has 3High,4Low,3Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, same number of powered and weapon slots but 2 more equipment slots than assault. Everything assault does, so does the logistics. Everything logistics does......Do you have so many equipments, my assault friend? I think a true logistics should be the assistant away from frontline, helping his team with various equipments, instead of killing at frontline as an undead monster and making his assault friend embarrassed. So, if we turn the lightweapon slot of logistics dropsuit to a in-built repair tool, they have to put their attention into assisting their teammates. Just stop it ....... Everbody join the bill to nerf caldari assaults and give them one less low slot !!! ^^ see that's just as big a joke as what you're writing. it's a LOGISTICS suit. Not your personal medic, it's meant to be the most versatile unit !! BUT because it's versatile the drawbacks are that it's slower and has lower base health than the assault. Instead of proposing such an stupid idea you might want to look into changing logistics base stats instead of forcing them to always carry a rep tool !! Which by the way is really hard to use becase CCP HAVEN'T GIVEN US THE HEALTH BARS BACK YET !!! so unless we aim at you we don't know you'r in low armour.... they also cap off our wp when we are healing people. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
6416
|
Posted - 2013.10.24 17:15:00 -
[46] - Quote
Raven Shadowkill wrote:My only complaint about logi suits is why do they have more hi/low slots than their assault counterparts. For example the gallente logi has 5 lows but the assault only has 4. Logi suits already are extremely flexible with high fitting and equipment slots. So why the extra discrepancy of more hi/lows? Just makes logiassault even more tempting for any assault player. That extra module slot takes the place of a sidearm slot. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1201
|
Posted - 2013.10.24 17:18:00 -
[47] - Quote
Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Logistics isn't even repper or medic. This game got it right. EVE defines logi as repper only.
Logistics is about supplies and that's exactly how I'm gonna play it. Nanos, links and scans.
Reviving in this game is a joke. Players need to be able to inject themselves for a free life. I've found repping/reviving such a waste. Usually, ppl aren't anywhere near where you are at and I can't stand being revived only to be shot right back down.
Just make me almost dead for a few seconds so I can give myself the ol' "Epinephrine autoinjector".
Run with your squad, not away from them to do your own thing.
When I rep someone under fire, I throw myself in front of the bullets so they don't get dropped again, giving them a chance to get out before I dip to cover to let my native reps do their work.
Get better logis on your team. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1202
|
Posted - 2013.10.24 17:23:00 -
[48] - Quote
Raven Shadowkill wrote:My only complaint about logi suits is why do they have more hi/low slots than their assault counterparts. For example the gallente logi has 5 lows but the assault only has 4. Logi suits already are extremely flexible with high fitting and equipment slots. So why the extra discrepancy of more hi/lows? Just makes logiassault even more tempting for any assault player. Like I said in the other "nerf logis" thread, support logi players sacrifice offensive and or defensive abilities in order to keep their team rez/repped/resupplied.
I have Core Upgrades 5 Elec/Eng 3 Light Weap. Op 3 Explosive 3 for fitting opt. skills currently for my logi.
My Standard Min Logi = Gek, Locus Gren., Adv. Ammo Hives, Adv. Rep, Adv. Needle, 2 Basic Shield Extenders, 1 Basic Plate, 1 enhanced Repairer.
Yea, I could get more defense and offense capabilities, but I would have to sacrifice my ability to support. |
General John Ripper
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
3833
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Posted - 2013.10.24 17:23:00 -
[49] - Quote
your friend is a crappy medic. Get new friends if you don't like how he plays that much. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
1202
|
Posted - 2013.10.24 17:28:00 -
[50] - Quote
Cosgar wrote:Are we seriously doing this **** again?! Have you seen all the nerf logi threads today? |
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Cosgar
ParagonX
6418
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Posted - 2013.10.24 17:31:00 -
[51] - Quote
Master Jaraiya wrote:Cosgar wrote:Are we seriously doing this **** again?! Have you seen all the nerf logi threads today? This forum goes in circles with stuff to ***** about when CCP doesn't announce anything. It must be logi day again. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
1126
|
Posted - 2013.10.24 17:31:00 -
[52] - Quote
I used to carry revive sticks....then I found out how fun remote mines were....I could spend all my time picking scrubs up or I could spend all my time blowing scrubs up....the choice was easy. |
Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
524
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Posted - 2013.10.24 17:34:00 -
[53] - Quote
you cannot compare a cadari assault suit to the amar logi
you could compare the proto amarian assault vs the proto amarian logi in which case the assault has more attack ability as it should and the logi has more support ability as it should.
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Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division
158
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Posted - 2013.10.24 17:41:00 -
[54] - Quote
Cosgar wrote:FORGE GUNEG wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Timothy Reaper wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Didn't you heard ? Logis are in strike.... the "Logi Revolution" if you will...we getting a bit tired of been in the Nerf Hammer scope all the time. So if you want a Repair, use Repair Modules.... if you want ammo, equip you own Hives... if you want a revive.. well... **** off. I guess that makes me a Scab . But seriously Mr. Wonder, your idea is absurd. Let's say your squad gets into a fire fight with the enemy. When it's over the only ones left standing are a red dot and your logi. Who's going to protect him while he picks everyone up? The reasons you listed all focuse on you, but winning the match requires the whole team, and sometimes logis have to decide who to save and who is beyond help. Are there crappy logis? Yes. Does something need to be done about it? Maybe, but your suggestion would nerf logis into oblivion. Logis are pretty useless right now anyway ... with the Reactive Armor Modules, the one equipment slot that almost all the classes have, and the poor reviving mechanics... is not need for a Logi. Logis used to be essential in the battlefield ... but not anymore. A couple of reactive modules... and i am fully self sufficient in battle, no need to have a logi following me around. I think the best suit for now is the logi gk.0 and ak.0 they are strong and with high damage weapons Wow, I didn't know that a weapon suddenly deals more damage when it's in a logi's hands. ^^^ Logistics classes lose speed, base Hp, and isk efficiency compared to assaults, also, the lack of sidearm is a killer, unless of course you fit AR. 1600damage in a sinle clip say anything? How many logis do you see running Non AR? True amarr logi can use smg laser, or scram scrams. But the assault gets bonuses DIRECTLY to those weapons, whereas logi gets bonuses elsewhwere. I think the problem with slayer logi is the 'one weapon does it all, and then some' AR, aka 'rapid fire sniper rifle'. When uprising 1.30 comes out and racial ar's are out, and Hopefully gallente gets range drop, then maybe this slayer logi will cease. |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
596
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Posted - 2013.10.24 18:13:00 -
[55] - Quote
m twiggz wrote:This has been brought up so many times it's ridiculous. Your idea is beyond stupid. I won't go into vast detail like I have so many times before. The logistics suits are meant to be "combat medics" not a mobile hospital. Use armor repair or triage nano hives, or better yet just quit complaining and play the game.
Prime example of why this game will not be balanced and hence successful. AR crowd is a massive bandwagon lobby now, so are logis with their OP good-at-everything suit.
When you talk to a logi they say it's fine because 'logis are supposed to be flexible' or some other garbage BS like that. All other suits are forced in tight little boxes that often have no advantages at all. Logis on the other hand can be w/e they want to be - on the same very suit depending on their load out.
I say, strip logis the eff down of their million highs and lows. Hell give them all a secondary weapon (it does not make or break much). Let them keep their equipment slots. If you do that we will see that assaults are better at killing and logis would have to support first and kill second. |
Byozuma Kegawa
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
167
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Posted - 2013.10.24 18:15:00 -
[56] - Quote
I don't get it, really. After the launch of Uprising people were calling down the gods to nerf Logistics, even if it was just one suit that needed attention *cough*caldari*cough*. It got nerfed and all was... no, no it wasn't well as that exposed the deficiencies of the Amarr logistics suit, namely the odd distribution of slots between the three tiers. Oh, and there was something up with the other two faction's logistics suits. These were addressed and finally we had good logistics suits. And... people still complain? I don't get about what? Have you tried fitting more than one tool on what is little better than an assault's CPU/PG spread and not be a glass 'cannon'? The 'problem' is we have the CPU/PG to do just that, fit multiple tools and still be able to fit a weapon and various defensive/offensive modules. Take that away and we're just yellow Assault suits cause we wouldn't be able to fit those tools anymore, maybe just one tool but Assaults can do that already. So why bother? |
Cosgar
ParagonX
6418
|
Posted - 2013.10.24 18:17:00 -
[57] - Quote
Ludvig Enraga wrote:m twiggz wrote:This has been brought up so many times it's ridiculous. Your idea is beyond stupid. I won't go into vast detail like I have so many times before. The logistics suits are meant to be "combat medics" not a mobile hospital. Use armor repair or triage nano hives, or better yet just quit complaining and play the game. Prime example of why this game will not be balanced and hence successful. AR crowd is a massive bandwagon lobby now, so are logis with their OP good-at-everything suit. When you talk to a logi they say it's fine because 'logis are supposed to be flexible' or some other garbage BS like that. All other suits are forced in tight little boxes that often have no advantages at all. Logis on the other hand can be w/e they want to be - on the same very suit depending on their load out. I say, strip logis the eff down of their million highs and lows. Hell give them all a secondary weapon (it does not make or break much). Let them keep their equipment slots. If you do that we will see that assaults are better at killing and logis would have to support first and kill second. Make a new character, give him ~1,000,000 isk and spec into a logi right off the bat and see how easy it is without a sidearm. |
Joel II X
AHPA
62
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Posted - 2013.10.24 18:39:00 -
[58] - Quote
The only thing that needs fixing is the players. When someone has a needle and I'm bleeding out with no one around, I expect the nearby Medic to help out even though, most of the time, they won't. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
1258
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Posted - 2013.10.24 18:43:00 -
[59] - Quote
Just make it so DMG mods draw more CPU/PG from Logi suits or make them have a higher stacking penalty then any other suit. |
Assert Dominance
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
400
|
Posted - 2013.10.24 18:56:00 -
[60] - Quote
There needs to be a dust IQ for the ability to make forum posts. |
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
866
|
Posted - 2013.10.24 19:11:00 -
[61] - Quote
Y Wonder wrote:In my corporation, the top-killer and top-tanker are always the logiistics, especially the ak.0. When im dying, needing injector, my logi friend is killing. When im out of ammo having to return to supply, my logi friend is killing. When my logi friend and i are both out of armor, i have to avoid behind wall like a scaring cat and beg someone's repairing, while he still killing at frontline after some seconds break. When i request repairing, he may answer "whats the repair tool? why i need to equip it?" Damn it Let's see the difference between assault and logistics. For example, Assault ck.0 has 4High,3Low,1Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, 11 Slots in total. While Logistics ak.0 has 3High,4Low,3Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, same number of powered and weapon slots but 2 more equipment slots than assault. Everything assault does, so does the logistics. Everything logistics does......Do you have so many equipments, my assault friend? I think a true logistics should be the assistant away from frontline, helping his team with various equipments, instead of killing at frontline as an undead monster and making his assault friend embarrassed. So, if we turn the lightweapon slot of logistics dropsuit to a in-built repair tool, they have to put their attention into assisting their teammates.
I'd get banned if I stated my honest opinion on this matter so I'll keep it short.
Your a newb, a complete and total newb and your idea tops the charts for the most ridiculous of all the logi nerf threads.
Congratulations. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
866
|
Posted - 2013.10.24 19:16:00 -
[62] - Quote
BrownEye1129 wrote:How hard is it to look at your squadies after a fire fight to see who needs health?? Me thinks you are just being lazy. I haven't had a problem picking out who needs reps. Maybe I'm just playing logi right. Supporting my squadies and helping with the killing. Average kills 10-20 a game with 1-5 deaths. WPs ranging anywhere from 1500-2500 a match. Seems right. If the assaults want to take off with 50 armor who am I to stop them. I'll rep you if you fall back and let someone else take point. If you are that blood thristy that you can't wait 5 secs for me to cycle through my reps well I'll hit you with a needle when the rest of us at full health advance.
I don't think the op even realises that Logis stop healing after gauging it ineffective in an intense gunfight, also sounds like he wants to get revive farmed lol. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
866
|
Posted - 2013.10.24 19:20:00 -
[63] - Quote
I-Shayz-I wrote:I'd rather have the repair tool as a light weapon with the ability to damage opponents and steal their life energy.
Then maybe I'd agree.
I'd support this if assault also lost their equipment slot. |
Nihilus Warwick
Pradox One
63
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:27:00 -
[64] - Quote
Y Wonder wrote:In my corporation, the top-killer and top-tanker are always the logiistics, especially the ak.0. When im dying, needing injector, my logi friend is killing. When im out of ammo having to return to supply, my logi friend is killing. When my logi friend and i are both out of armor, i have to avoid behind wall like a scaring cat and beg someone's repairing, while he still killing at frontline after some seconds break. When i request repairing, he may answer "whats the repair tool? why i need to equip it?" Damn it Let's see the difference between assault and logistics. For example, Assault ck.0 has 4High,3Low,1Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, 11 Slots in total. While Logistics ak.0 has 3High,4Low,3Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, same number of powered and weapon slots but 2 more equipment slots than assault. Everything assault does, so does the logistics. Everything logistics does......Do you have so many equipments, my assault friend? I think a true logistics should be the assistant away from frontline, helping his team with various equipments, instead of killing at frontline as an undead monster and making his assault friend embarrassed. So, if we turn the lightweapon slot of logistics dropsuit to a in-built repair tool, they have to put their attention into assisting their teammates.
No, shame on you. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
1210
|
Posted - 2013.10.24 19:32:00 -
[65] - Quote
@ OP
It sounds to me like this is a problem between you and your corp mates. Not all logis are "medics" I have several logi fits designed for maximum red berry killing, I use RE, scanner, and even more REs sometimes so as u can clearly see, not all logis are medics. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
866
|
Posted - 2013.10.24 19:33:00 -
[66] - Quote
Raven Shadowkill wrote:My only complaint about logi suits is why do they have more hi/low slots than their assault counterparts. For example the gallente logi has 5 lows but the assault only has 4. Logi suits already are extremely flexible with high fitting and equipment slots. So why the extra discrepancy of more hi/lows? Just makes logiassault even more tempting for any assault player.
Because you need that HP to survive being shot at while being a logi, I couldn't count the amount of times iv had to sprint while being shot at to do something, this happens every game I play, if I had less HP a lot less people get goodies because I'd be dead more often. |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1556
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:36:00 -
[67] - Quote
Den-tredje Baron wrote:Y Wonder wrote:In my corporation, the top-killer and top-tanker are always the logiistics, especially the ak.0. When im dying, needing injector, my logi friend is killing. When im out of ammo having to return to supply, my logi friend is killing. When my logi friend and i are both out of armor, i have to avoid behind wall like a scaring cat and beg someone's repairing, while he still killing at frontline after some seconds break. When i request repairing, he may answer "whats the repair tool? why i need to equip it?" Damn it Let's see the difference between assault and logistics. For example, Assault ck.0 has 4High,3Low,1Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, 11 Slots in total. While Logistics ak.0 has 3High,4Low,3Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, same number of powered and weapon slots but 2 more equipment slots than assault. Everything assault does, so does the logistics. Everything logistics does......Do you have so many equipments, my assault friend? I think a true logistics should be the assistant away from frontline, helping his team with various equipments, instead of killing at frontline as an undead monster and making his assault friend embarrassed. So, if we turn the lightweapon slot of logistics dropsuit to a in-built repair tool, they have to put their attention into assisting their teammates. Just stop it ....... Everbody join the bill to nerf caldari assaults and give them one less low slot !!! ^^ see that's just as big a joke as what you're writing. it's a LOGISTICS suit. Not your personal medic, it's meant to be the most versatile unit !! BUT because it's versatile the drawbacks are that it's slower and has lower base health than the assault. Instead of proposing such an stupid idea you might want to look into changing logistics base stats instead of forcing them to always carry a rep tool !! Which by the way is really hard to use becase CCP HAVEN'T GIVEN US THE HEALTH BARS BACK YET !!! so unless we aim at you we don't know you'r in low armour.... Den, would you be availiable to contact in-game soon? |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1556
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:37:00 -
[68] - Quote
To the OP stop playing pubs and get a better corp, and run free suits, if you can't afford what you run then run something else. |
843 nerfnut96
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
132
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Posted - 2013.10.24 20:26:00 -
[69] - Quote
Y Wonder wrote:In my corporation, the top-killer and top-tanker are always the logistics, especially the ak.0. When im dying, needing injector, my logi friend is killing. When im out of ammo having to return to supply, my logi friend is killing. When my logi friend and i are both out of armor, i have to avoid behind wall like a scaring cat and beg someone's repairing, while he still killing at frontline after some seconds break. When i request repairing, he may answer "whats the repair tool? why i need to equip it?" Damn it Let's see the difference between assault and logistics. For example, Assault ck.0 has 4High,3Low,1Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, 11 Slots in total. While Logistics ak.0 has 3High,4Low,3Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, same number of powered and weapon slots but 2 more equipment slots than assault. Everything assault does, so does the logistics. Everything logistics does......Do you have so many equipments, my assault friend? I think a true logistics should be the assistant away from frontline, helping his team with various equipments, instead of killing at frontline as an undead monster and making his assault friend embarrassed. So, if we turn the lightweapon slot of logistics dropsuit to a in-built repair tool, they have to put their attention into assisting their teammates.
Lets Break down why you and people like you tick me off to no end, AND why your points are TOTALY INVALID!
"When im dying, needing injector, my logi friend is killing."
Lets look at the other option: Logi stops shooting and picks you up. You then get killed by the person the logi was shooting and prosead to whine about that. So yes we shoot first, THEN pick you up.
"When im out of ammo having to return to supply, my logi friend is killing."
First off, did ya even check to see if had ammo and/or had already dropped ammo on the ground? Secondly if the logi is doing so much killing as you say, why does he still have ammo and you don't? Maybe you just need to learn to hit what you're shooting at, Or maybe the logi ISN'T just killing the whole time.
"When my logi friend and i are both out of armor, i have to avoid behind wall like a scaring cat and beg someone's repairing, while he still killing at frontline after some seconds break."
Hmmmmm...... Maybe if your logi is still there fighting he was playing how a logi should, standing just back of you and then when you have to turn and run he stood his ground to lay some COVER FIRE (which could not be done with out a gun!)! If he would have just run with you to try and rep you right away you both would have ended up dead as the red would simply chase you down and wipe you out.
"When i request repairing, he may answer "whats the repair tool? why i need to equip it?" Damn it"
I don't know who the window licker of a logi you've been running with is but if you judge all logis off of him you are just as stupid.
"Let's see the difference between assault and logistics. For example, Assault ck.0 has 4High,3Low,1Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, 11 Slots in total. While Logistics ak.0 has 3High,4Low,3Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, same number of powered and weapon slots but 2 more equipment slots than assault. Everything assault does, so does the logistics. Everything logistics does......Do you have so many equipments, my assault friend?"
I see... you pick the ONLY logi to have a side arm to compare to an assault suit. I'll have you know that there are three other logi suits that don't have sidearms AND the only a fraction of all logis use the amarr logi.
"I think a true logistics should be the assistant away from frontline, helping his team with various equipments, instead of killing at frontline as an undead monster and making his assault friend embarrassed."
First off i don't give two craps about what you THINK a "true logi" should do, as true logi i'll tell you right now that it is not only possible but practical to drop your equipment and the move to the front to help engage the enemy and to provide the reps you SO desire. Secondly lets get down to the real meaning of the B section of that sentence, you have a logi who out kills YOU and embarrass YOU. Also, as i am 100% sure you've never played as a logi, could you please enlighten me as to what makes you think that logis can stand at the front line as "an undead monster"? I'll tell you right now that 5HP reps per second don't allow us to walk through the battle unscathed.
"So, if we turn the light weapon slot of logistics dropsuit to a in-built repair tool, they have to put their attention into assisting their teammates."
See here the thing, I want to SLAP the everliving FOOL out of whatever genious that thought that idea up. Lets keep one thing in mind, dust is a first-person SHOOTER! I play this game to, wait for it............. SHOOT PEOPLE! If i wanted to spend ALL my time in game fixing stuff and putting stuff down i'd go play Fing LITTLE BIG PLANET!
I want you to do two things before you continue this insane quest you're on: 1: Play as a logi for 20 games, or at the very least as an assault with a repper. 2: Play 3-4 games in a squad of logis hand picked by me.
TL;DR This man is insane.
Also, did this video of the Geico Therapist come to anyone elses mind when the read the OP? |
Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
150
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Posted - 2013.10.24 20:44:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Logistics isn't even repper or medic. This game got it right. EVE defines logi as repper only.
Logistics is about supplies and that's exactly how I'm gonna play it. Nanos, links and scans.
Reviving in this game is a joke. Players need to be able to inject themselves for a free life. I've found repping/reviving such a waste. Usually, ppl aren't anywhere near where you are at and I can't stand being revived only to be shot right back down.
Just make me almost dead for a few seconds so I can give myself the ol' "Epinephrine autoinjector". Run with your squad, not away from them to do your own thing. When I rep someone under fire, I throw myself in front of the bullets so they don't get dropped again, giving them a chance to get out before I dip to cover to let my native reps do their work. Get better logis on your team.
You, Sir, are a LogiBro...and I'm digging what you're putting down. +1
We have quite a few top shelf Logis in Corps and Alliance and they uniformly see the battlefield the way you are describing. I see the work they do and going 2 kills, 8 assists, 5 deaths and earning 1500+ WP like clockwork. Notice I said EARN the WP...they do work that assaulters, snipers, heavies, and scouts just simply don't do.
As to the OP of the thread...brother...that sounds like a YOU problem, not a Logi problem. |
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DraC0X
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
20
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Posted - 2013.10.24 21:24:00 -
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Y Wonder wrote:In my corporation, the top-killer and top-tanker are always the logiistics, especially the ak.0. When im dying, needing injector, my logi friend is killing. When im out of ammo having to return to supply, my logi friend is killing. When my logi friend and i are both out of armor, i have to avoid behind wall like a scaring cat and beg someone's repairing, while he still killing at frontline after some seconds break. When i request repairing, he may answer "whats the repair tool? why i need to equip it?" Damn it Let's see the difference between assault and logistics. For example, Assault ck.0 has 4High,3Low,1Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, 11 Slots in total. While Logistics ak.0 has 3High,4Low,3Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, same number of powered and weapon slots but 2 more equipment slots than assault. Everything assault does, so does the logistics. Everything logistics does......Do you have so many equipments, my assault friend? I think a true logistics should be the assistant away from frontline, helping his team with various equipments, instead of killing at frontline as an undead monster and making his assault friend embarrassed. So, if we turn the lightweapon slot of logistics dropsuit to a in-built repair tool, they have to put their attention into assisting their teammates.
Dude u r so wrong that even my eyes r hurting when i finished reading the Post!
If ur corp is full of logis dont doing his work, dump them and find a better corp or better talk to them and tell them the awful work they are doing as logis.
I run logibro most of the time, my ONLY Character is on 17M SP and i have at least 25 suits configs, so i can be effective as the battle changes over time.
When i play with my buddies i know my place as a Logi, Repair, Resupply and Kill, not in that specific order, but they r the main directives of a logi. If i see u on my sight and i can kill u i Will, and at the same time keep and eye on my buddies when they need my help.
So bottom line, get better logis in ur corp or try to be a logi yourself, believe me it's fun, is even funnier when u r at the the top five of the scoreboard. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
1530
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Posted - 2013.10.24 21:30:00 -
[72] - Quote
**** off |
RedBleach LeSanglant
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
440
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Posted - 2013.10.24 22:08:00 -
[73] - Quote
He doesn't sound like much of a friend. Nothing makes up for comms and a well structured team. That being said, you are not being helped by a logibro, but a logissault - a crazed bumblebee if you will. And let us not for get this is a FPS, the goal is to kill and destroy things. |
Finde R
Die Valkyrja Pangu Coalition
3
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Posted - 2013.10.28 01:15:00 -
[74] - Quote
Joel II X wrote:The only thing that needs fixing is the players. When someone has a needle and I'm bleeding out with no one around, I expect the nearby Medic to help out even though, most of the time, they won't.
Because it's a bug. When i use a suit with needle , then i die , i choose another same suit without needle. System will still think i have needle even i don't. |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
1328
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Posted - 2013.10.28 05:42:00 -
[75] - Quote
we're sick of getting yelled at for reviving you stupid assaults who ony care about ur KD. so we let u die and then take all of your kills or farm WP off of your need for ammo and scan assists before you die. yup. maybe you shouldn't have bged us to be nerfed so bad. have fun being dead.
#callogigirlsdoitbetter |
Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS
672
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Posted - 2013.10.28 06:00:00 -
[76] - Quote
I always appreciate the revive or the reps. Sometimes needle dude walks over my corpse or something and goes about his day while I'm choking on my blood. |
Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
158
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Posted - 2013.11.26 17:52:00 -
[77] - Quote
Without the flexibility of our suits, Logi's would be second class to Assaults. We can tank more and carry those little things you like called Drop Uplinks. You know, those things that help you get back to the fight faster if/when you die and I can't get to you? Also, because we heal, we get focused fired. We need a way to kill our enemies so that we can continue healing.
Contact WaTcHoUt1219 ZARTA for Logos. More are available. 500K ISK.
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J3f3r20n Gh057
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
136
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Posted - 2013.11.27 01:52:00 -
[78] - Quote
843 nerfnut96 wrote:Y Wonder wrote:In my corporation, the top-killer and top-tanker are always the logistics, especially the ak.0. When im dying, needing injector, my logi friend is killing. When im out of ammo having to return to supply, my logi friend is killing. When my logi friend and i are both out of armor, i have to avoid behind wall like a scaring cat and beg someone's repairing, while he still killing at frontline after some seconds break. When i request repairing, he may answer "whats the repair tool? why i need to equip it?" Damn it Let's see the difference between assault and logistics. For example, Assault ck.0 has 4High,3Low,1Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, 11 Slots in total. While Logistics ak.0 has 3High,4Low,3Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, same number of powered and weapon slots but 2 more equipment slots than assault. Everything assault does, so does the logistics. Everything logistics does......Do you have so many equipments, my assault friend? I think a true logistics should be the assistant away from frontline, helping his team with various equipments, instead of killing at frontline as an undead monster and making his assault friend embarrassed. So, if we turn the lightweapon slot of logistics dropsuit to a in-built repair tool, they have to put their attention into assisting their teammates. Lets Break down why you and people like you tick me off to no end, AND why your points are TOTALY INVALID! "When im dying, needing injector, my logi friend is killing. " Lets look at the other option: Logi stops shooting and picks you up. You then get killed by the person the logi was shooting and prosead to whine about that. So yes we shoot first, THEN pick you up. "When im out of ammo having to return to supply, my logi friend is killing. " First off, did ya even check to see if had ammo and/or had already dropped ammo on the ground? Secondly if the logi is doing so much killing as you say, why does he still have ammo and you don't? Maybe you just need to learn to hit what you're shooting at, Or maybe the logi ISN'T just killing the whole time. "When my logi friend and i are both out of armor, i have to avoid behind wall like a scaring cat and beg someone's repairing, while he still killing at frontline after some seconds break. " Hmmmmm...... Maybe if your logi is still there fighting he was playing how a logi should, standing just back of you and then when you have to turn and run he stood his ground to lay some COVER FIRE (which could not be done with out a gun!)! If he would have just run with you to try and rep you right away you both would have ended up dead as the red would simply chase you down and wipe you out. "When i request repairing, he may answer "whats the repair tool? why i need to equip it?" Damn it" I don't know who the window licker of a logi you've been running with is but if you judge all logis off of him you are just as stupid. "Let's see the difference between assault and logistics. For example, Assault ck.0 has 4High,3Low,1Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, 11 Slots in total. While Logistics ak.0 has 3High,4Low,3Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, same number of powered and weapon slots but 2 more equipment slots than assault. Everything assault does, so does the logistics. Everything logistics does......Do you have so many equipments, my assault friend?" I see... you pick the ONLY logi to have a side arm to compare to an assault suit. I'll have you know that there are three other logi suits that don't have sidearms AND the only a fraction of all logis use the amarr logi. "I think a true logistics should be the assistant away from frontline, helping his team with various equipments, instead of killing at frontline as an undead monster and making his assault friend embarrassed." First off i don't give two craps about what you THINK a "true logi" should do, as true logi i'll tell you right now that it is not only possible but practical to drop your equipment and the move to the front to help engage the enemy and to provide the reps you SO desire. Secondly lets get down to the real meaning of the B section of that sentence, you have a logi who out kills YOU and embarrass YOU. Also, as i am 100% sure you've never played as a logi, could you please enlighten me as to what makes you think that logis can stand at the front line as "an undead monster"? I'll tell you right now that 5HP reps per second don't allow us to walk through the battle unscathed. "So, if we turn the light weapon slot of logistics dropsuit to a in-built repair tool, they have to put their attention into assisting their teammates." See here the thing, I want to SLAP the everliving FOOL out of whatever genious that thought that idea up. Lets keep one thing in mind, dust is a first-person SHOOTER! I play this game to, wait for it............. SHOOT PEOPLE! If i wanted to spend ALL my time in game fixing stuff and putting stuff down i'd go play Fing LITTLE BIG PLANET! I want you to do two things before you continue this insane quest you're on: 1: Play as a logi for 20 games, or at the very least as an assault with a repper. 2: Play 3-4 games in a squad of logis hand picked by me. TL;DR This man is insane. Also, did this video of the Geico Therapist come to anyone elses mind when the read the OP?
AS a temporary retired Logi (and player), i have to say: "You are goddamn right"...
I don't see the point of taking out the gun of a soldier just because he's specialized im medical stuff... It's hilarious, at least...
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Jakar Umbra
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
413
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Posted - 2013.11.27 02:03:00 -
[79] - Quote
Y Wonder wrote:In my corporation, the top-killer and top-tanker are always the logiistics, especially the ak.0. When im dying, needing injector, my logi friend is killing. When im out of ammo having to return to supply, my logi friend is killing. When my logi friend and i are both out of armor, i have to avoid behind wall like a scaring cat and beg someone's repairing, while he still killing at frontline after some seconds break. When i request repairing, he may answer "whats the repair tool? why i need to equip it?" Damn it Let's see the difference between assault and logistics. For example, Assault ck.0 has 4High,3Low,1Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, 11 Slots in total. While Logistics ak.0 has 3High,4Low,3Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, same number of powered and weapon slots but 2 more equipment slots than assault. Everything assault does, so does the logistics. Everything logistics does......Do you have so many equipments, my assault friend? I think a true logistics should be the assistant away from frontline, helping his team with various equipments, instead of killing at frontline as an undead monster and making his assault friend embarrassed. So, if we turn the lightweapon slot of logistics dropsuit to a in-built repair tool, they have to put their attention into assisting their teammates. On the rare occasion I post in response to stupid arguements in General Discussion I try to give logical reasoning and apply as much objectivity as I possibly can so as to bring a reasonable solution to a problem. However because of this post I will probably have to go to a doctor to see if I have a brain tumor. Therefore I leave this here in response to your comment and humbly request that the next time you decide to post something you at least give it some thought before clicking post.
Author of Umbra's Short Stories. Last story posted 11/25/2013.
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Delanus Turgias
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
162
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Posted - 2013.11.27 02:15:00 -
[80] - Quote
Cosgar wrote:FORGE GUNEG wrote:logister can have high eph and high damage same time.......... Assaults get better base stats, two weapons, (which equates to more DPS) and their fittings are significantly cheaper. SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper? Lolnope, my Ak.0 Assault is 195k ISK/Suit. Proto Logis wouldn't be much more than that, maybe 30k ISK.
Closed Beta Vet since July, 2012
TEST Alliance Best Alliance
Proud owner of essentially every BPO in Dust
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
5
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:05:00 -
[81] - Quote
Lets Break down why you and people like you tick me off to no end, AND why your points are TOTALY INVALID!
"When im dying, needing injector, my logi friend is killing."
Lets look at the other option: Logi stops shooting and picks you up. You then get killed by the person the logi was shooting and prosead to whine about that. So yes we shoot first, THEN pick you up.
"When im out of ammo having to return to supply, my logi friend is killing."
First off, did ya even check to see if had ammo and/or had already dropped ammo on the ground? Secondly if the logi is doing so much killing as you say, why does he still have ammo and you don't? Maybe you just need to learn to hit what you're shooting at, Or maybe the logi ISN'T just killing the whole time.
"When my logi friend and i are both out of armor, i have to avoid behind wall like a scaring cat and beg someone's repairing, while he still killing at frontline after some seconds break."
Hmmmmm...... Maybe if your logi is still there fighting he was playing how a logi should, standing just back of you and then when you have to turn and run he stood his ground to lay some COVER FIRE (which could not be done with out a gun!)! If he would have just run with you to try and rep you right away you both would have ended up dead as the red would simply chase you down and wipe you out.
"When i request repairing, he may answer "whats the repair tool? why i need to equip it?" Damn it"
I don't know who the window licker of a logi you've been running with is but if you judge all logis off of him you are just as stupid.
"Let's see the difference between assault and logistics. For example, Assault ck.0 has 4High,3Low,1Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, 11 Slots in total. While Logistics ak.0 has 3High,4Low,3Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, same number of powered and weapon slots but 2 more equipment slots than assault. Everything assault does, so does the logistics. Everything logistics does......Do you have so many equipments, my assault friend?"
I see... you pick the ONLY logi to have a side arm to compare to an assault suit. I'll have you know that there are three other logi suits that don't have sidearms AND the only a fraction of all logis use the amarr logi.
"I think a true logistics should be the assistant away from frontline, helping his team with various equipments, instead of killing at frontline as an undead monster and making his assault friend embarrassed."
First off i don't give two craps about what you THINK a "true logi" should do, as true logi i'll tell you right now that it is not only possible but practical to drop your equipment and the move to the front to help engage the enemy and to provide the reps you SO desire. Secondly lets get down to the real meaning of the B section of that sentence, you have a logi who out kills YOU and embarrass YOU. Also, as i am 100% sure you've never played as a logi, could you please enlighten me as to what makes you think that logis can stand at the front line as "an undead monster"? I'll tell you right now that 5HP reps per second don't allow us to walk through the battle unscathed.
"So, if we turn the light weapon slot of logistics dropsuit to a in-built repair tool, they have to put their attention into assisting their teammates."
See here the thing, I want to SLAP the everliving FOOL out of whatever genious that thought that idea up. Lets keep one thing in mind, dust is a first-person SHOOTER! I play this game to, wait for it............. SHOOT PEOPLE! If i wanted to spend ALL my time in game fixing stuff and putting stuff down i'd go play Fing LITTLE BIG PLANET!
I want you to do two things before you continue this insane quest you're on: 1: Play as a logi for 20 games, or at the very least as an assault with a repper. 2: Play 3-4 games in a squad of logis hand picked by me.
TL;DR This man is insane.
Also, did this video of the Geico Therapist come to anyone elses mind when the read the OP?[/quote]
1. not every logi, no matter faction they are carries a nanite injecter, or a repair tool. most tend to carry one or the other and mutli nanohives or an active scanner.
2 most logis do not depend on there passive rep to help them, they will stack 2-3 proto rep mods on there suit which boosts there armor rep to way more then 5hp per second.
3. i would say only about 70%-75% of the people that play as a logi actually use the logi as it was intended to be, which is a support/attack suit. meaning that its ment to provide cover fire for team mates, either to allow them to get behind cover or kill the red dot so they can pick up there down team mates while providing any support they need.
alot of logis say they have different builds for different situtations. they might be using a scanner with ano hives and a needle or a scanner with nano hives and a rep tool.
i personally think that a logi should have a rep tool and a nanite injector built in to the suit and allow all the factions to carry a side arm as well as a light wepon, but again that my personal opinion |
Tch Tch
Red Shirts Away Team
34
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:19:00 -
[82] - Quote
My main is also a noob but has Minmater Logi 1. My first suit is a logi hacker, i run to fresh locations leave a drop link nearby, hack and leave an RE. I don't repair in this outfit.
I have an uplink bunny who can drop 3 uplinks with REs attached and a logibro lite who can rep, revive and supply ammo. But it only comes out if there are heavies worth supporting.
Otherwise I go flanking with REs. the only time I regularly carry nanite injectors is when I'm going one of my Alts. This one has a MD and nanites as the default the other is an armour tank, AR and nanites. Before injecting you need to clear off the enemies. So really its the assaults who should be carrying nanites. Add to that if the OP wants us Logi's to play further back what would be the point of nanites on us? We will be too far away to use them.
It you are an assault it will take you two days to passively skill into logistics and get an understanding for the role. It will help you understand the pros and cons of the suit and how they can help you and how you can beat them.
Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
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Sev Alcatraz
Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance
324
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:23:00 -
[83] - Quote
I think the logi's need a swift nerf, they have been in the slayer role too long
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Cosgar
ParagonX
8327
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:31:00 -
[84] - Quote
Sev Alcatraz wrote:I think the logi's need a swift nerf, they have been in the slayer role too long
Start with the incentive to use support actions. No need to nerf the logi, encourage the need for higher tier equipment by increasing WP/m scaling by meta level.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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843 nerfnut96
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
186
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:34:00 -
[85] - Quote
I think you need a swift slap in the face, you've been saying stupid things too long.
As you can see that is the same thing you just said to all logis, just reworded for impact.
Capt. Nerfnut96 // Ranking Officer // War Director // Burgezz ETF
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Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
525
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:48:00 -
[86] - Quote
Cosgar wrote:Sev Alcatraz wrote:I think the logi's need a swift nerf, they have been in the slayer role too long
Start with the incentive to use support actions. No need to nerf the logi, encourage the need for higher tier equipment by increasing WP/m scaling by meta level.
This. Assaults want the heal slave, give me a reason to heal slave. Because right now I can't see HP bars, and it's more viable to drop a Triage Hive at choke points, and increase the DPS of the team. |
The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1285
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:50:00 -
[87] - Quote
They took the rep tool out of the logi suit in the closed beta. A basic nanite injector would be a better built in item.
Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
5
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Posted - 2013.12.05 07:24:00 -
[88] - Quote
Justin Tymes wrote:Cosgar wrote:Sev Alcatraz wrote:I think the logi's need a swift nerf, they have been in the slayer role too long
Start with the incentive to use support actions. No need to nerf the logi, encourage the need for higher tier equipment by increasing WP/m scaling by meta level. This. Assaults want the heal slave, give me a reason to heal slave. Because right now I can't see HP bars, and it's more viable to drop a Triage Hive at choke points, and increase the DPS of the team.
any non noob knows that just by looking at a team mate you can see there hp not as bars but as numbers |
Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
377
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Posted - 2013.12.05 07:40:00 -
[89] - Quote
Banning Hammer wrote:Didn't you heard ? Logis are in strike.... the "Logi Revolution" if you will...we getting a bit tired of been in the Nerf Hammer scope all the time. So if you want a Repair, use Repair Modules.... if you want ammo, equip you own Hives... if you want a revive.. well... **** off.
:D
I went on strike way back when they messed up the needles. I may pull out the support logi if my squad is in desperate need, but other than that I stick to my assault suits.
As for the OP, if you mean the light weapon slot... hell no!
Gÿó +¦ +¦ Gÿó
Meta Gaming V > Proficiency I
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Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
377
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Posted - 2013.12.05 07:46:00 -
[90] - Quote
843-Vika wrote: i personally think that a logi should have a rep tool and a nanite injector built in to the suit and allow all the factions to carry a side arm as well as a light wepon, but again that my personal opinion
How would this work exactly? Would the built-in items be non-removable? If so, what would they be (militia/standard)? This being the case you would negate the need to skill into the items because you would lose the ability to equip higher meta items in those slots :/
EDIT: if you could replace the built-in items CCP'd have to make it so they can only be replaced with an item of the same kind or people would continue to put whatever they want into the slots.
Gÿó +¦ +¦ Gÿó
Meta Gaming V > Proficiency I
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GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1062
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Posted - 2013.12.05 07:48:00 -
[91] - Quote
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My PS3 is dusty ._.
Level 1 Forum Warrior
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Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
669
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Posted - 2013.12.05 08:26:00 -
[92] - Quote
lol have an issue? here's a tissue
YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!!
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Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
931
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Posted - 2013.12.05 08:31:00 -
[93] - Quote
Cosgar wrote:Sev Alcatraz wrote:I think the logi's need a swift nerf, they have been in the slayer role too long
Start with the incentive to use support actions. No need to nerf the logi, encourage the need for higher tier equipment by increasing WP/m scaling by meta level. Oh yes, exactly what the logis need to be balanced; even _more_ WPs. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
8380
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Posted - 2013.12.05 18:08:00 -
[94] - Quote
Rasatsu wrote:Cosgar wrote:Sev Alcatraz wrote:I think the logi's need a swift nerf, they have been in the slayer role too long
Start with the incentive to use support actions. No need to nerf the logi, encourage the need for higher tier equipment by increasing WP/m scaling by meta level. Oh yes, exactly what the logis need to be balanced; even _more_ WPs. When's the last time someone picked you up with a proto injector?
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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Michael Epic
The Neutral Zone
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Posted - 2013.12.05 18:31:00 -
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Look....I'm a "slayer logi".
I can't tell you why I do it or how I do it because I am an area denial expert (I don't use the mass driver) But I don't do it to build my KDR. 6 months ago my KDR was 0.48. My KDR now is 0.91.
Obviously I've gotten better...but that's not from being on the frontline and spraying everyone down with my duvolle....its learning how to get around efficiently and to not get killed. I spend more time NOT getting killed than I do killing people. Now that doesn't mean that every once in awhile I won't hop on the front lines and tell the raspberries to pray as I spray but those games are few and far between.
Most games...I have like, 9/4 or so. If I am really feeling like area denial I'll get 18/1 and if I decide I want to be on the front line spraying down the raspberries, I'll be like 35/10.
But I am an area denial expert as I said....I know how to police skirmish objectives in a manner that makes them very hard to hack and I require all the equipment I carry and all the high/low slots to reinforce my dropsuit so I can't be dropped by being sneezed on from SCR users.
That's my play style. That's who I am and I'm damn good at it...my win/loss ratio is very respectable because of it and along with the amazing people in the corp I am in, our win loss ratio as a whole corp is in the black and not the red.
I don't see why you would want to take that away from me and other players like me just because you can't keep from getting your ass shot off.
Here's an idea...get into a corp and try to be blessed with AMAZING logi players that WANT to provide a support role to the players. We have two dedicated support logi's and they are astronomically bad ass.
Stop bitching and get to work bro |
Jadd Hatchen
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.12.05 18:49:00 -
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Y Wonder wrote:In my corporation, the top-killer and top-tanker are always the logiistics, especially the ak.0. When im dying, needing injector, my logi friend is killing. When im out of ammo having to return to supply, my logi friend is killing. When my logi friend and i are both out of armor, i have to avoid behind wall like a scaring cat and beg someone's repairing, while he still killing at frontline after some seconds break. When i request repairing, he may answer "whats the repair tool? why i need to equip it?" Damn it Let's see the difference between assault and logistics. For example, Assault ck.0 has 4High,3Low,1Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, 11 Slots in total. While Logistics ak.0 has 3High,4Low,3Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, same number of powered and weapon slots but 2 more equipment slots than assault. Everything assault does, so does the logistics. Everything logistics does......Do you have so many equipments, my assault friend? I think a true logistics should be the assistant away from frontline, helping his team with various equipments, instead of killing at frontline as an undead monster and making his assault friend embarrassed. So, if we turn the lightweapon slot of logistics dropsuit to a in-built repair tool, they have to put their attention into assisting their teammates.
So what happens when they introduce a shield boosting tool? They have one on the LAV's, what happens to your idea then? Do they get both built in? Or only one? IF one, then which? What if that is not the one I want on my particular race's logi suit? Honestly, just fix the role bonues for all the suit. Make it so that if someone still wants to do what is believed to be "counter" to the intent of the suit still possible, but with diminishing returns. Don't deny options. That goes counter to the idea of being able to configure your suit your way. If a logi is supposed to be a glorified medic like in other games, then why not have set "kits" with no options as to what's in them? This game is different because you CAN configure the stuff the way you want to. Not everyone wants the same thing.
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