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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
866
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:11:00 -
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Y Wonder wrote:In my corporation, the top-killer and top-tanker are always the logiistics, especially the ak.0. When im dying, needing injector, my logi friend is killing. When im out of ammo having to return to supply, my logi friend is killing. When my logi friend and i are both out of armor, i have to avoid behind wall like a scaring cat and beg someone's repairing, while he still killing at frontline after some seconds break. When i request repairing, he may answer "whats the repair tool? why i need to equip it?" Damn it Let's see the difference between assault and logistics. For example, Assault ck.0 has 4High,3Low,1Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, 11 Slots in total. While Logistics ak.0 has 3High,4Low,3Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, same number of powered and weapon slots but 2 more equipment slots than assault. Everything assault does, so does the logistics. Everything logistics does......Do you have so many equipments, my assault friend? I think a true logistics should be the assistant away from frontline, helping his team with various equipments, instead of killing at frontline as an undead monster and making his assault friend embarrassed. So, if we turn the lightweapon slot of logistics dropsuit to a in-built repair tool, they have to put their attention into assisting their teammates.
I'd get banned if I stated my honest opinion on this matter so I'll keep it short.
Your a newb, a complete and total newb and your idea tops the charts for the most ridiculous of all the logi nerf threads.
Congratulations. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
866
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:16:00 -
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BrownEye1129 wrote:How hard is it to look at your squadies after a fire fight to see who needs health?? Me thinks you are just being lazy. I haven't had a problem picking out who needs reps. Maybe I'm just playing logi right. Supporting my squadies and helping with the killing. Average kills 10-20 a game with 1-5 deaths. WPs ranging anywhere from 1500-2500 a match. Seems right. If the assaults want to take off with 50 armor who am I to stop them. I'll rep you if you fall back and let someone else take point. If you are that blood thristy that you can't wait 5 secs for me to cycle through my reps well I'll hit you with a needle when the rest of us at full health advance.
I don't think the op even realises that Logis stop healing after gauging it ineffective in an intense gunfight, also sounds like he wants to get revive farmed lol. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
866
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:20:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I'd rather have the repair tool as a light weapon with the ability to damage opponents and steal their life energy.
Then maybe I'd agree.
I'd support this if assault also lost their equipment slot. |
Nihilus Warwick
Pradox One
63
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:27:00 -
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Y Wonder wrote:In my corporation, the top-killer and top-tanker are always the logiistics, especially the ak.0. When im dying, needing injector, my logi friend is killing. When im out of ammo having to return to supply, my logi friend is killing. When my logi friend and i are both out of armor, i have to avoid behind wall like a scaring cat and beg someone's repairing, while he still killing at frontline after some seconds break. When i request repairing, he may answer "whats the repair tool? why i need to equip it?" Damn it Let's see the difference between assault and logistics. For example, Assault ck.0 has 4High,3Low,1Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, 11 Slots in total. While Logistics ak.0 has 3High,4Low,3Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, same number of powered and weapon slots but 2 more equipment slots than assault. Everything assault does, so does the logistics. Everything logistics does......Do you have so many equipments, my assault friend? I think a true logistics should be the assistant away from frontline, helping his team with various equipments, instead of killing at frontline as an undead monster and making his assault friend embarrassed. So, if we turn the lightweapon slot of logistics dropsuit to a in-built repair tool, they have to put their attention into assisting their teammates.
No, shame on you. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
1210
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:32:00 -
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@ OP
It sounds to me like this is a problem between you and your corp mates. Not all logis are "medics" I have several logi fits designed for maximum red berry killing, I use RE, scanner, and even more REs sometimes so as u can clearly see, not all logis are medics. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
866
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:33:00 -
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Raven Shadowkill wrote:My only complaint about logi suits is why do they have more hi/low slots than their assault counterparts. For example the gallente logi has 5 lows but the assault only has 4. Logi suits already are extremely flexible with high fitting and equipment slots. So why the extra discrepancy of more hi/lows? Just makes logiassault even more tempting for any assault player.
Because you need that HP to survive being shot at while being a logi, I couldn't count the amount of times iv had to sprint while being shot at to do something, this happens every game I play, if I had less HP a lot less people get goodies because I'd be dead more often. |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1556
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:36:00 -
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Den-tredje Baron wrote:Y Wonder wrote:In my corporation, the top-killer and top-tanker are always the logiistics, especially the ak.0. When im dying, needing injector, my logi friend is killing. When im out of ammo having to return to supply, my logi friend is killing. When my logi friend and i are both out of armor, i have to avoid behind wall like a scaring cat and beg someone's repairing, while he still killing at frontline after some seconds break. When i request repairing, he may answer "whats the repair tool? why i need to equip it?" Damn it Let's see the difference between assault and logistics. For example, Assault ck.0 has 4High,3Low,1Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, 11 Slots in total. While Logistics ak.0 has 3High,4Low,3Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, same number of powered and weapon slots but 2 more equipment slots than assault. Everything assault does, so does the logistics. Everything logistics does......Do you have so many equipments, my assault friend? I think a true logistics should be the assistant away from frontline, helping his team with various equipments, instead of killing at frontline as an undead monster and making his assault friend embarrassed. So, if we turn the lightweapon slot of logistics dropsuit to a in-built repair tool, they have to put their attention into assisting their teammates. Just stop it ....... Everbody join the bill to nerf caldari assaults and give them one less low slot !!! ^^ see that's just as big a joke as what you're writing. it's a LOGISTICS suit. Not your personal medic, it's meant to be the most versatile unit !! BUT because it's versatile the drawbacks are that it's slower and has lower base health than the assault. Instead of proposing such an stupid idea you might want to look into changing logistics base stats instead of forcing them to always carry a rep tool !! Which by the way is really hard to use becase CCP HAVEN'T GIVEN US THE HEALTH BARS BACK YET !!! so unless we aim at you we don't know you'r in low armour.... Den, would you be availiable to contact in-game soon? |
Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
1556
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:37:00 -
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To the OP stop playing pubs and get a better corp, and run free suits, if you can't afford what you run then run something else. |
843 nerfnut96
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
132
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Posted - 2013.10.24 20:26:00 -
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Y Wonder wrote:In my corporation, the top-killer and top-tanker are always the logistics, especially the ak.0. When im dying, needing injector, my logi friend is killing. When im out of ammo having to return to supply, my logi friend is killing. When my logi friend and i are both out of armor, i have to avoid behind wall like a scaring cat and beg someone's repairing, while he still killing at frontline after some seconds break. When i request repairing, he may answer "whats the repair tool? why i need to equip it?" Damn it Let's see the difference between assault and logistics. For example, Assault ck.0 has 4High,3Low,1Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, 11 Slots in total. While Logistics ak.0 has 3High,4Low,3Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, same number of powered and weapon slots but 2 more equipment slots than assault. Everything assault does, so does the logistics. Everything logistics does......Do you have so many equipments, my assault friend? I think a true logistics should be the assistant away from frontline, helping his team with various equipments, instead of killing at frontline as an undead monster and making his assault friend embarrassed. So, if we turn the lightweapon slot of logistics dropsuit to a in-built repair tool, they have to put their attention into assisting their teammates.
Lets Break down why you and people like you tick me off to no end, AND why your points are TOTALY INVALID!
"When im dying, needing injector, my logi friend is killing."
Lets look at the other option: Logi stops shooting and picks you up. You then get killed by the person the logi was shooting and prosead to whine about that. So yes we shoot first, THEN pick you up.
"When im out of ammo having to return to supply, my logi friend is killing."
First off, did ya even check to see if had ammo and/or had already dropped ammo on the ground? Secondly if the logi is doing so much killing as you say, why does he still have ammo and you don't? Maybe you just need to learn to hit what you're shooting at, Or maybe the logi ISN'T just killing the whole time.
"When my logi friend and i are both out of armor, i have to avoid behind wall like a scaring cat and beg someone's repairing, while he still killing at frontline after some seconds break."
Hmmmmm...... Maybe if your logi is still there fighting he was playing how a logi should, standing just back of you and then when you have to turn and run he stood his ground to lay some COVER FIRE (which could not be done with out a gun!)! If he would have just run with you to try and rep you right away you both would have ended up dead as the red would simply chase you down and wipe you out.
"When i request repairing, he may answer "whats the repair tool? why i need to equip it?" Damn it"
I don't know who the window licker of a logi you've been running with is but if you judge all logis off of him you are just as stupid.
"Let's see the difference between assault and logistics. For example, Assault ck.0 has 4High,3Low,1Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, 11 Slots in total. While Logistics ak.0 has 3High,4Low,3Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, same number of powered and weapon slots but 2 more equipment slots than assault. Everything assault does, so does the logistics. Everything logistics does......Do you have so many equipments, my assault friend?"
I see... you pick the ONLY logi to have a side arm to compare to an assault suit. I'll have you know that there are three other logi suits that don't have sidearms AND the only a fraction of all logis use the amarr logi.
"I think a true logistics should be the assistant away from frontline, helping his team with various equipments, instead of killing at frontline as an undead monster and making his assault friend embarrassed."
First off i don't give two craps about what you THINK a "true logi" should do, as true logi i'll tell you right now that it is not only possible but practical to drop your equipment and the move to the front to help engage the enemy and to provide the reps you SO desire. Secondly lets get down to the real meaning of the B section of that sentence, you have a logi who out kills YOU and embarrass YOU. Also, as i am 100% sure you've never played as a logi, could you please enlighten me as to what makes you think that logis can stand at the front line as "an undead monster"? I'll tell you right now that 5HP reps per second don't allow us to walk through the battle unscathed.
"So, if we turn the light weapon slot of logistics dropsuit to a in-built repair tool, they have to put their attention into assisting their teammates."
See here the thing, I want to SLAP the everliving FOOL out of whatever genious that thought that idea up. Lets keep one thing in mind, dust is a first-person SHOOTER! I play this game to, wait for it............. SHOOT PEOPLE! If i wanted to spend ALL my time in game fixing stuff and putting stuff down i'd go play Fing LITTLE BIG PLANET!
I want you to do two things before you continue this insane quest you're on: 1: Play as a logi for 20 games, or at the very least as an assault with a repper. 2: Play 3-4 games in a squad of logis hand picked by me.
TL;DR This man is insane.
Also, did this video of the Geico Therapist come to anyone elses mind when the read the OP? |
Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
150
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Posted - 2013.10.24 20:44:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Logistics isn't even repper or medic. This game got it right. EVE defines logi as repper only.
Logistics is about supplies and that's exactly how I'm gonna play it. Nanos, links and scans.
Reviving in this game is a joke. Players need to be able to inject themselves for a free life. I've found repping/reviving such a waste. Usually, ppl aren't anywhere near where you are at and I can't stand being revived only to be shot right back down.
Just make me almost dead for a few seconds so I can give myself the ol' "Epinephrine autoinjector". Run with your squad, not away from them to do your own thing. When I rep someone under fire, I throw myself in front of the bullets so they don't get dropped again, giving them a chance to get out before I dip to cover to let my native reps do their work. Get better logis on your team.
You, Sir, are a LogiBro...and I'm digging what you're putting down. +1
We have quite a few top shelf Logis in Corps and Alliance and they uniformly see the battlefield the way you are describing. I see the work they do and going 2 kills, 8 assists, 5 deaths and earning 1500+ WP like clockwork. Notice I said EARN the WP...they do work that assaulters, snipers, heavies, and scouts just simply don't do.
As to the OP of the thread...brother...that sounds like a YOU problem, not a Logi problem. |
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DraC0X
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
20
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Posted - 2013.10.24 21:24:00 -
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Y Wonder wrote:In my corporation, the top-killer and top-tanker are always the logiistics, especially the ak.0. When im dying, needing injector, my logi friend is killing. When im out of ammo having to return to supply, my logi friend is killing. When my logi friend and i are both out of armor, i have to avoid behind wall like a scaring cat and beg someone's repairing, while he still killing at frontline after some seconds break. When i request repairing, he may answer "whats the repair tool? why i need to equip it?" Damn it Let's see the difference between assault and logistics. For example, Assault ck.0 has 4High,3Low,1Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, 11 Slots in total. While Logistics ak.0 has 3High,4Low,3Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, same number of powered and weapon slots but 2 more equipment slots than assault. Everything assault does, so does the logistics. Everything logistics does......Do you have so many equipments, my assault friend? I think a true logistics should be the assistant away from frontline, helping his team with various equipments, instead of killing at frontline as an undead monster and making his assault friend embarrassed. So, if we turn the lightweapon slot of logistics dropsuit to a in-built repair tool, they have to put their attention into assisting their teammates.
Dude u r so wrong that even my eyes r hurting when i finished reading the Post!
If ur corp is full of logis dont doing his work, dump them and find a better corp or better talk to them and tell them the awful work they are doing as logis.
I run logibro most of the time, my ONLY Character is on 17M SP and i have at least 25 suits configs, so i can be effective as the battle changes over time.
When i play with my buddies i know my place as a Logi, Repair, Resupply and Kill, not in that specific order, but they r the main directives of a logi. If i see u on my sight and i can kill u i Will, and at the same time keep and eye on my buddies when they need my help.
So bottom line, get better logis in ur corp or try to be a logi yourself, believe me it's fun, is even funnier when u r at the the top five of the scoreboard. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
1530
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Posted - 2013.10.24 21:30:00 -
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**** off |
RedBleach LeSanglant
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
440
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Posted - 2013.10.24 22:08:00 -
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He doesn't sound like much of a friend. Nothing makes up for comms and a well structured team. That being said, you are not being helped by a logibro, but a logissault - a crazed bumblebee if you will. And let us not for get this is a FPS, the goal is to kill and destroy things. |
Finde R
Die Valkyrja Pangu Coalition
3
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Posted - 2013.10.28 01:15:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:The only thing that needs fixing is the players. When someone has a needle and I'm bleeding out with no one around, I expect the nearby Medic to help out even though, most of the time, they won't.
Because it's a bug. When i use a suit with needle , then i die , i choose another same suit without needle. System will still think i have needle even i don't. |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
1328
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Posted - 2013.10.28 05:42:00 -
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we're sick of getting yelled at for reviving you stupid assaults who ony care about ur KD. so we let u die and then take all of your kills or farm WP off of your need for ammo and scan assists before you die. yup. maybe you shouldn't have bged us to be nerfed so bad. have fun being dead.
#callogigirlsdoitbetter |
Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS
672
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Posted - 2013.10.28 06:00:00 -
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I always appreciate the revive or the reps. Sometimes needle dude walks over my corpse or something and goes about his day while I'm choking on my blood. |
Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
158
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Posted - 2013.11.26 17:52:00 -
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Without the flexibility of our suits, Logi's would be second class to Assaults. We can tank more and carry those little things you like called Drop Uplinks. You know, those things that help you get back to the fight faster if/when you die and I can't get to you? Also, because we heal, we get focused fired. We need a way to kill our enemies so that we can continue healing.
Contact WaTcHoUt1219 ZARTA for Logos. More are available. 500K ISK.
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J3f3r20n Gh057
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
136
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Posted - 2013.11.27 01:52:00 -
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843 nerfnut96 wrote:Y Wonder wrote:In my corporation, the top-killer and top-tanker are always the logistics, especially the ak.0. When im dying, needing injector, my logi friend is killing. When im out of ammo having to return to supply, my logi friend is killing. When my logi friend and i are both out of armor, i have to avoid behind wall like a scaring cat and beg someone's repairing, while he still killing at frontline after some seconds break. When i request repairing, he may answer "whats the repair tool? why i need to equip it?" Damn it Let's see the difference between assault and logistics. For example, Assault ck.0 has 4High,3Low,1Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, 11 Slots in total. While Logistics ak.0 has 3High,4Low,3Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, same number of powered and weapon slots but 2 more equipment slots than assault. Everything assault does, so does the logistics. Everything logistics does......Do you have so many equipments, my assault friend? I think a true logistics should be the assistant away from frontline, helping his team with various equipments, instead of killing at frontline as an undead monster and making his assault friend embarrassed. So, if we turn the lightweapon slot of logistics dropsuit to a in-built repair tool, they have to put their attention into assisting their teammates. Lets Break down why you and people like you tick me off to no end, AND why your points are TOTALY INVALID! "When im dying, needing injector, my logi friend is killing. " Lets look at the other option: Logi stops shooting and picks you up. You then get killed by the person the logi was shooting and prosead to whine about that. So yes we shoot first, THEN pick you up. "When im out of ammo having to return to supply, my logi friend is killing. " First off, did ya even check to see if had ammo and/or had already dropped ammo on the ground? Secondly if the logi is doing so much killing as you say, why does he still have ammo and you don't? Maybe you just need to learn to hit what you're shooting at, Or maybe the logi ISN'T just killing the whole time. "When my logi friend and i are both out of armor, i have to avoid behind wall like a scaring cat and beg someone's repairing, while he still killing at frontline after some seconds break. " Hmmmmm...... Maybe if your logi is still there fighting he was playing how a logi should, standing just back of you and then when you have to turn and run he stood his ground to lay some COVER FIRE (which could not be done with out a gun!)! If he would have just run with you to try and rep you right away you both would have ended up dead as the red would simply chase you down and wipe you out. "When i request repairing, he may answer "whats the repair tool? why i need to equip it?" Damn it" I don't know who the window licker of a logi you've been running with is but if you judge all logis off of him you are just as stupid. "Let's see the difference between assault and logistics. For example, Assault ck.0 has 4High,3Low,1Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, 11 Slots in total. While Logistics ak.0 has 3High,4Low,3Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, same number of powered and weapon slots but 2 more equipment slots than assault. Everything assault does, so does the logistics. Everything logistics does......Do you have so many equipments, my assault friend?" I see... you pick the ONLY logi to have a side arm to compare to an assault suit. I'll have you know that there are three other logi suits that don't have sidearms AND the only a fraction of all logis use the amarr logi. "I think a true logistics should be the assistant away from frontline, helping his team with various equipments, instead of killing at frontline as an undead monster and making his assault friend embarrassed." First off i don't give two craps about what you THINK a "true logi" should do, as true logi i'll tell you right now that it is not only possible but practical to drop your equipment and the move to the front to help engage the enemy and to provide the reps you SO desire. Secondly lets get down to the real meaning of the B section of that sentence, you have a logi who out kills YOU and embarrass YOU. Also, as i am 100% sure you've never played as a logi, could you please enlighten me as to what makes you think that logis can stand at the front line as "an undead monster"? I'll tell you right now that 5HP reps per second don't allow us to walk through the battle unscathed. "So, if we turn the light weapon slot of logistics dropsuit to a in-built repair tool, they have to put their attention into assisting their teammates." See here the thing, I want to SLAP the everliving FOOL out of whatever genious that thought that idea up. Lets keep one thing in mind, dust is a first-person SHOOTER! I play this game to, wait for it............. SHOOT PEOPLE! If i wanted to spend ALL my time in game fixing stuff and putting stuff down i'd go play Fing LITTLE BIG PLANET! I want you to do two things before you continue this insane quest you're on: 1: Play as a logi for 20 games, or at the very least as an assault with a repper. 2: Play 3-4 games in a squad of logis hand picked by me. TL;DR This man is insane. Also, did this video of the Geico Therapist come to anyone elses mind when the read the OP?
AS a temporary retired Logi (and player), i have to say: "You are goddamn right"...
I don't see the point of taking out the gun of a soldier just because he's specialized im medical stuff... It's hilarious, at least...
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Jakar Umbra
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
413
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Posted - 2013.11.27 02:03:00 -
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Y Wonder wrote:In my corporation, the top-killer and top-tanker are always the logiistics, especially the ak.0. When im dying, needing injector, my logi friend is killing. When im out of ammo having to return to supply, my logi friend is killing. When my logi friend and i are both out of armor, i have to avoid behind wall like a scaring cat and beg someone's repairing, while he still killing at frontline after some seconds break. When i request repairing, he may answer "whats the repair tool? why i need to equip it?" Damn it Let's see the difference between assault and logistics. For example, Assault ck.0 has 4High,3Low,1Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, 11 Slots in total. While Logistics ak.0 has 3High,4Low,3Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, same number of powered and weapon slots but 2 more equipment slots than assault. Everything assault does, so does the logistics. Everything logistics does......Do you have so many equipments, my assault friend? I think a true logistics should be the assistant away from frontline, helping his team with various equipments, instead of killing at frontline as an undead monster and making his assault friend embarrassed. So, if we turn the lightweapon slot of logistics dropsuit to a in-built repair tool, they have to put their attention into assisting their teammates. On the rare occasion I post in response to stupid arguements in General Discussion I try to give logical reasoning and apply as much objectivity as I possibly can so as to bring a reasonable solution to a problem. However because of this post I will probably have to go to a doctor to see if I have a brain tumor. Therefore I leave this here in response to your comment and humbly request that the next time you decide to post something you at least give it some thought before clicking post.
Author of Umbra's Short Stories. Last story posted 11/25/2013.
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Delanus Turgias
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
162
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Posted - 2013.11.27 02:15:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:FORGE GUNEG wrote:logister can have high eph and high damage same time.......... Assaults get better base stats, two weapons, (which equates to more DPS) and their fittings are significantly cheaper. SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper? Lolnope, my Ak.0 Assault is 195k ISK/Suit. Proto Logis wouldn't be much more than that, maybe 30k ISK.
Closed Beta Vet since July, 2012
TEST Alliance Best Alliance
Proud owner of essentially every BPO in Dust
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
5
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:05:00 -
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Lets Break down why you and people like you tick me off to no end, AND why your points are TOTALY INVALID!
"When im dying, needing injector, my logi friend is killing."
Lets look at the other option: Logi stops shooting and picks you up. You then get killed by the person the logi was shooting and prosead to whine about that. So yes we shoot first, THEN pick you up.
"When im out of ammo having to return to supply, my logi friend is killing."
First off, did ya even check to see if had ammo and/or had already dropped ammo on the ground? Secondly if the logi is doing so much killing as you say, why does he still have ammo and you don't? Maybe you just need to learn to hit what you're shooting at, Or maybe the logi ISN'T just killing the whole time.
"When my logi friend and i are both out of armor, i have to avoid behind wall like a scaring cat and beg someone's repairing, while he still killing at frontline after some seconds break."
Hmmmmm...... Maybe if your logi is still there fighting he was playing how a logi should, standing just back of you and then when you have to turn and run he stood his ground to lay some COVER FIRE (which could not be done with out a gun!)! If he would have just run with you to try and rep you right away you both would have ended up dead as the red would simply chase you down and wipe you out.
"When i request repairing, he may answer "whats the repair tool? why i need to equip it?" Damn it"
I don't know who the window licker of a logi you've been running with is but if you judge all logis off of him you are just as stupid.
"Let's see the difference between assault and logistics. For example, Assault ck.0 has 4High,3Low,1Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, 11 Slots in total. While Logistics ak.0 has 3High,4Low,3Equipment,1Light,1Sidearm and 1Grenade, same number of powered and weapon slots but 2 more equipment slots than assault. Everything assault does, so does the logistics. Everything logistics does......Do you have so many equipments, my assault friend?"
I see... you pick the ONLY logi to have a side arm to compare to an assault suit. I'll have you know that there are three other logi suits that don't have sidearms AND the only a fraction of all logis use the amarr logi.
"I think a true logistics should be the assistant away from frontline, helping his team with various equipments, instead of killing at frontline as an undead monster and making his assault friend embarrassed."
First off i don't give two craps about what you THINK a "true logi" should do, as true logi i'll tell you right now that it is not only possible but practical to drop your equipment and the move to the front to help engage the enemy and to provide the reps you SO desire. Secondly lets get down to the real meaning of the B section of that sentence, you have a logi who out kills YOU and embarrass YOU. Also, as i am 100% sure you've never played as a logi, could you please enlighten me as to what makes you think that logis can stand at the front line as "an undead monster"? I'll tell you right now that 5HP reps per second don't allow us to walk through the battle unscathed.
"So, if we turn the light weapon slot of logistics dropsuit to a in-built repair tool, they have to put their attention into assisting their teammates."
See here the thing, I want to SLAP the everliving FOOL out of whatever genious that thought that idea up. Lets keep one thing in mind, dust is a first-person SHOOTER! I play this game to, wait for it............. SHOOT PEOPLE! If i wanted to spend ALL my time in game fixing stuff and putting stuff down i'd go play Fing LITTLE BIG PLANET!
I want you to do two things before you continue this insane quest you're on: 1: Play as a logi for 20 games, or at the very least as an assault with a repper. 2: Play 3-4 games in a squad of logis hand picked by me.
TL;DR This man is insane.
Also, did this video of the Geico Therapist come to anyone elses mind when the read the OP?[/quote]
1. not every logi, no matter faction they are carries a nanite injecter, or a repair tool. most tend to carry one or the other and mutli nanohives or an active scanner.
2 most logis do not depend on there passive rep to help them, they will stack 2-3 proto rep mods on there suit which boosts there armor rep to way more then 5hp per second.
3. i would say only about 70%-75% of the people that play as a logi actually use the logi as it was intended to be, which is a support/attack suit. meaning that its ment to provide cover fire for team mates, either to allow them to get behind cover or kill the red dot so they can pick up there down team mates while providing any support they need.
alot of logis say they have different builds for different situtations. they might be using a scanner with ano hives and a needle or a scanner with nano hives and a rep tool.
i personally think that a logi should have a rep tool and a nanite injector built in to the suit and allow all the factions to carry a side arm as well as a light wepon, but again that my personal opinion |
Tch Tch
Red Shirts Away Team
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:19:00 -
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My main is also a noob but has Minmater Logi 1. My first suit is a logi hacker, i run to fresh locations leave a drop link nearby, hack and leave an RE. I don't repair in this outfit.
I have an uplink bunny who can drop 3 uplinks with REs attached and a logibro lite who can rep, revive and supply ammo. But it only comes out if there are heavies worth supporting.
Otherwise I go flanking with REs. the only time I regularly carry nanite injectors is when I'm going one of my Alts. This one has a MD and nanites as the default the other is an armour tank, AR and nanites. Before injecting you need to clear off the enemies. So really its the assaults who should be carrying nanites. Add to that if the OP wants us Logi's to play further back what would be the point of nanites on us? We will be too far away to use them.
It you are an assault it will take you two days to passively skill into logistics and get an understanding for the role. It will help you understand the pros and cons of the suit and how they can help you and how you can beat them.
Turrent - the sound a tankers pants makes when he finds out the four swarm militia doing squats around him aren't AFK.
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Sev Alcatraz
Unkn0wn Killers Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:23:00 -
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I think the logi's need a swift nerf, they have been in the slayer role too long
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Cosgar
ParagonX
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:31:00 -
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Sev Alcatraz wrote:I think the logi's need a swift nerf, they have been in the slayer role too long
Start with the incentive to use support actions. No need to nerf the logi, encourage the need for higher tier equipment by increasing WP/m scaling by meta level.
I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
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843 nerfnut96
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:34:00 -
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I think you need a swift slap in the face, you've been saying stupid things too long.
As you can see that is the same thing you just said to all logis, just reworded for impact.
Capt. Nerfnut96 // Ranking Officer // War Director // Burgezz ETF
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Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:48:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Sev Alcatraz wrote:I think the logi's need a swift nerf, they have been in the slayer role too long
Start with the incentive to use support actions. No need to nerf the logi, encourage the need for higher tier equipment by increasing WP/m scaling by meta level.
This. Assaults want the heal slave, give me a reason to heal slave. Because right now I can't see HP bars, and it's more viable to drop a Triage Hive at choke points, and increase the DPS of the team. |
The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.12.05 00:50:00 -
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They took the rep tool out of the logi suit in the closed beta. A basic nanite injector would be a better built in item.
Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.05 07:24:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:Cosgar wrote:Sev Alcatraz wrote:I think the logi's need a swift nerf, they have been in the slayer role too long
Start with the incentive to use support actions. No need to nerf the logi, encourage the need for higher tier equipment by increasing WP/m scaling by meta level. This. Assaults want the heal slave, give me a reason to heal slave. Because right now I can't see HP bars, and it's more viable to drop a Triage Hive at choke points, and increase the DPS of the team.
any non noob knows that just by looking at a team mate you can see there hp not as bars but as numbers |
Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.12.05 07:40:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Didn't you heard ? Logis are in strike.... the "Logi Revolution" if you will...we getting a bit tired of been in the Nerf Hammer scope all the time. So if you want a Repair, use Repair Modules.... if you want ammo, equip you own Hives... if you want a revive.. well... **** off.
:D
I went on strike way back when they messed up the needles. I may pull out the support logi if my squad is in desperate need, but other than that I stick to my assault suits.
As for the OP, if you mean the light weapon slot... hell no!
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Meta Gaming V > Proficiency I
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Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.12.05 07:46:00 -
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843-Vika wrote: i personally think that a logi should have a rep tool and a nanite injector built in to the suit and allow all the factions to carry a side arm as well as a light wepon, but again that my personal opinion
How would this work exactly? Would the built-in items be non-removable? If so, what would they be (militia/standard)? This being the case you would negate the need to skill into the items because you would lose the ability to equip higher meta items in those slots :/
EDIT: if you could replace the built-in items CCP'd have to make it so they can only be replaced with an item of the same kind or people would continue to put whatever they want into the slots.
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Meta Gaming V > Proficiency I
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