dampeners honestly dont help you against good players, because when u defeat a scan it tells them "some margin of error" rather than "no margin of error", so by pointing it in ur direction nd u being within 100m, its REALLY easy for ppl to tell where you are even though ur not lit up.

meanwhile ur going up against a 1000ehp logi w/ a duvolle, with ur near useless dampeners, and fragile suit...
thats just how dust is right now, EHP>speed or EWAR.

Of course if the person scanning sucks, your dampeners can be good

Your math is wrong. The dampening skill and the dampener itself don't add together to reduce your scan profile (in this case, -10% + -20% =/= -30%). It's actually 50db *.9 (skill reduction) *.8 (module reduction) = 36dB.

I will test whether having exactly 36dB as your scan profile will allow you to evade advanced scans. Remembering from experience, it does not.

I'll agree with this. If it doesn't pick something up on the scan then it just shouldn't.

I think all the feedback the scanner needs is the glowing red dots.

It used to be that you had to actually use your eyes and ears to spot people. Go play a classical FPS game like Counter-Strike and then come to DUST. Many old-school FPS gamers would claim Active Scanners are the equivalent of wall hacks.

See: http://youtu.be/3btfpIKXL4c

No one except the Gallente Scout can avoid the 15dB scanner, and the scout is severely crippled if it does this (all four lows to dampeners).

If every medium/light suit in a match ran dampeners to avoid the 28dB proto scanners (rather easy, just two slots), the only useful scanner would be the 15dB which has a 10 second illumination time (scan time + light up time) and 33 second cooldown between consecutive scans, meaning that a target could only be illuminated by one person for 30% of the time in a match.

I suppose if multiple people in the squad had this proto scanner and traded off scanning, intel would have the same constancy as it does now. But the likelihood of that is about as likely as the entire enemy team all running proto dampeners.

They're ruining Dust too.

lol you mad? The scanner is amazing no more of this lone wolf stuff. now you have to stick together to survive.

Before 1.4, everyone was "perma scanned" in that what you and your teammates saw, you also saw on your radar/tacnet (no matter if you didn't have line of sight or if you were 100-200m away). Profile dampening did nothing because line of sight overrode dampening, and therefore shared line of sight made even the stealthiest scout visible to all enemies so long as he was in line of sight of one.

Now, in order to have this same level of intel, you need to have 1-2 people in your squad dedicate an equipment slot and SP to a scanner and constantly carry/use it. Further, this isn't 100% because anyone who avoids the scans of your teammates will only show up on the radar to someone with direct line of sight on them. This means that a dampened enemy could engage your squadmates one by one and you wouldn't know where he was attacking from unless you saw him yourself. This is a huge advantage and opens up a lot of flanking/stealth killing opportunities for those willing to invest in dampening.

If you don't want to go into dampening, don't complain when you get scanned.

the scanner is too binary and changed the gameplay in dust into zerging even more. this is a big step back imho, it is way worse than before where vision was shared. before you could atleast block it with solid objects, now you cant hide everywhere. it also weakened uplinks even more cause you cant hide them.

in most matches I am perma scanned all time. there is no real room for hit and run, flanking or sneaking tactics when everyone knows where you are. all you get for trying that is a cooked grenade into the face.

and the worst about it, to negate the scanner, I have to give up alot of EHP. if an AR user sees me with a damp fit out, he can down me in 0.5s. the scanner on the other hand has no real downsides.

funny to see how all the defenders are not getting it or trying to save their crutch. you can be sure that it will be nerfed in its current form, CCP is quite good at balancing actually.

I use it a lot.
I die less but I kill less as a support player.
I wish that we could switch from scanner to a weapon a lot quicker since it won't equip a weapon until a full scan is finished. I've died a lot because I cant draw my weapon mid-scan.
Cancel the scan, let me shoot.