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Lt Royal
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.10.20 06:36:00 -
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CCP live streamed the EVE Vegas 2013 event on Twitch TV Saturday 19th of October in which they held a lecture on GÇ£Dust 514: Past Present & FutureGÇ¥ at 21:00 UTC. In this lecture they spoke about the how the game had been developed, what the current game mechanics are and what they are looking to for in their GÇ£road mapGÇ¥.
Just incase for those of you who missed the live steam or didn't take notice of the upcoming changes and implementations that were spoke about, I took note of all of the things mentioned for your reading pleasure. If I have missed out on anything please drop it in the comments below.
- All racial gear to be released soon (not SOONGäó) hopefully 1.8
- BPO are not safe!
- New cloaking system/ability. - This has been asked for by the community for awhile for an active cloaking module for dropsuits, but nothing more have been said on the matter.
- Revamped NPE (New Player Experience)
- Market 2.0 - They gave a screenshot of what this will look like and in the words of George Takei: GÇ£Oh MyGÇ¥ did it look good! Also included a new tab for Factional Warfare items.
- Player market - meaning it will be no longer all NPC controlled; weGÇÖll be able to sell items for the prices we see fit...... which is great for the meta game!
- New items for the Loyalty Point store for Factional Warfare
- Player Trading - This is pretty self explanatory I think.
- Through the use of AURUM a player can gain increased: standing, Loyalty Points and ISK per match within Factional Warfare. - I think this should be removed, as this seems very much like Pay to Win IMO.
- EVE pilots will get added Loyalty Points and gain kill mails for successful Factional Warfare orbitals.
- Planetary Conquest 2.0 - A completely reworked system for more balance and a more GÇ£hardcoreGÇ¥ experience.
- Clone packs will be changed so you actually have to load up a Warbarge (at a station) with MCCGÇÖs and clones and then either get a EVE pilot to actively pilot the clones to the desired plannet. Once there youGÇÖll have to GÇ£anchorGÇ¥ the warbarge above the planet. (Multiple Warbarges could be anchored and thus blobbing a planet with x amount of Warbarges) :D
- Orbital artillery on the plants will be able to shoot an anchored Warbarge to destroy it. Im guessing youGÇÖll have to own that district which has the Orbital Artillery.
- Moving PC to null sec (player own space) and claim Sovereignty (owning whole sectors of space)
- New end of match screens. - Extra added statistics and for Factional Warfare will show the current state of the planet and region captured, both for Dust and EVE sides. This is great so we can see how much we are affecting each other.
- No signs for other gaming platforms for Dust, though they contradicted this in another lecture.
- Free roaming!
Phew quite a lot of stuff there to take in, I know its a tad messy and IGÇÖll try to link in the relevant threads on each topic when I get the time to do so! Also if you would like to watch the lecture yourself IGÇÖll be linking the video as soon as they post the it on their youtube page. Anyway thats all what I managed to see what they were planning to do in the future.
What features are you looking forward to most? What has got you most excited? What do you not like about these ideas? Let the discussions begin! |
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Lt Royal
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.10.20 06:38:00 -
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Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.10.20 06:38:00 -
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Thanks for compiling all of this! Great way to get a look at it all without sitting through the stream like I did.![Lol](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_lol.png) |
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.10.20 06:41:00 -
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What is "Free Roaming"?
Also, racial items and market based updates have me the most excited. |
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Lt Royal
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1991
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Posted - 2013.10.20 06:45:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:What is "Free Roaming"?
Also, racial items and market based updates have me the most excited.
Updated |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 06:48:00 -
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nice thanks.
soon....... soon........ most likely coming out next year summer
LOL 1.8 |
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Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.10.20 06:51:00 -
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Bet you a dollar cloaking will be broken as all hell when its implemented and PC is going to be a total joke now since its going to heavily rely on EVE support to do anything of meaning, factor in that we are still generally cut off from the EVE community such as not even sharing forums its going to make it a huge pain in the ass to even attempt to attack a district for any small corp trying to prove something and just supports the idea of a big blue donut with token meaningless skirmishes in designated areas especially when you factor in the size of all null space |
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Zatara Rought
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Posted - 2013.10.20 06:59:00 -
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1.8? |
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Militia TEST
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.20 07:27:00 -
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Cook marshmallows around a burning Sica
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Calroon DeVil
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.20 07:27:00 -
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Scrap half of that list and addd soonGäó to it, summer 2014+ Just talk and nothing but hot air to get more players.
The amount of people at the Dust presentation and the Q&A was hilarious.
How many times they mentioned that there are tons of PS3 out there, so they focus on PS3 only? Way to fall behind, CCP. Good job. So many PS3's out there yea, just no one gives a damn about Dust. One can have dreams however, I like it. That presentation was a slap in the face, probably took 15 minutes to set up. |
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TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.20 07:27:00 -
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1.8...
I REALLY hope we get all of the variants in 1.8, but I'm not going to hold my breath. |
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Lt Royal
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.10.20 07:30:00 -
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Calroon DeVil wrote:Scrap half of that list and addd soonGäó to it, summer 2014+ Just talk and nothing but hot air to get more players.
The amount of people at the Dust presentation and the Q&A was hilarious.
How many times they mentioned that there are tons of PS3 out there, so they focus on PS3 only? Way to fall behind, CCP. Good job. So many PS3's out there yea, just no one gives a damn about Dust. One can have dreams however, I like it. That presentation was a slap in the face, probably took 15 minutes to set up.
FYI that event is not annually held CCP thing. Its more for the EVE poker community meeting up at vegas. They have been doing this for like 3 years now without a CCP presence. So yeh I guess you could say it was slapped up in 15 mins....
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Posted - 2013.10.20 07:47:00 -
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Thanks for the thread. :)
We can't see the stream recorded and uploaded anywhere ? |
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Foundation Seldon
Gespenster Kompanie Villore Accords
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Posted - 2013.10.20 08:05:00 -
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HUNK tm wrote:Thanks for the thread. :)
We can't see the stream recorded and uploaded somewhere ?
You can! http://www.twitch.tv/ccp/b/471606839?t=4h15m
Can we put the link to this in the first post? If the time stamp doesn't work then the presentation starts at 4 hours and 15 minutes. |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 08:18:00 -
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The EvE warbarge mechanic sounds good, nice role for those of us that play both eve and dust.
I belive they were only hoping for the main racial varients in 1.8, with other stuff being next year or so. If we get 1/2 the racial varients by then and rest a month or two later and other thing in next year I will be very happy. |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 08:32:00 -
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Sounds good thanks for the writeup Lt Royal.
Snag |
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Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.20 08:55:00 -
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They have said all this before.... LOTS of times, YEARS ago.![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png) |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 08:56:00 -
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Hmm, talking in TS about this right now. The War Barge stuff sounds great. A ship you take and anchor, that makes sense. I always wondered how that would work. Good job CCP.
I am also shocked and very happy that you guys want to take PC to SOV already. I thought that would have been a few years out. Well again, good for you CCP.
The markets and stuff I am happy for, but those other ones blew me out of the water. |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 09:08:00 -
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Wonder if that's the full 10-year plan... that'd mean we can expect 1-2 bullet points each year (which, given their track record, actually sounds believable ;)). |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 09:23:00 -
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I am missing the most importent thing in this future list. Ok lets say it.
Dust is about hiring mercs so eve players hire us to take certain planets. Certain players to alliances. If I am right that should by coming with the 0.0 expansion right?
Else the hole game dust is not what it is aimed to by.
Thanks.
Further most stuff looks good.
Other point. Why not combine free roaming with PVE areas and mining? |
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Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.10.20 09:25:00 -
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Marc Rime wrote:Wonder if that's the full 10-year plan... that'd mean we can expect 1-2 bullet points each year (which, given their track record, actually sounds believable ;)).
It was a 10 years plan about 4 years ago ... so i'm pretty sure we down to a 5 years plan by now, or less. MAYBE. |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 09:32:00 -
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Ok so they have by Jan 2014 then by my count to implement that entire list? IF they can pull it off there will probably be bugs the size of Mothra and they will need to call in Godzilla to stomp them out or Tokyo is ****** hard. |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 10:42:00 -
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The warbarge stuff is in pre poduction and they are still figuring out how dust players can use it. You could mention that OP, people are going to assume its coming out sometime shortly . |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 11:14:00 -
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When CCP Preatorian said 'we need free roaming areas', I'm pretty sure he was talking about larger maps with more space for vehicles to move about, not about a new game mode outside of battles where players just wander around the map. |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 11:14:00 -
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I just want the rest of the heavy suits. Both sentinels and commandos.
I just want an HMG with a repair tool on one suit... for Christmas. |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 11:30:00 -
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YAY!
Quote:Orbital artillery on the plants will be able to shoot an anchored Warbarge to destroy it. Im guessing youGÇÖll have to own that district which has the Orbital Artillery.
And to think they were just going to throw that map out! I'm so happy to see less work being thrown out and more forward thinking designs! I can't wait to shoot off the gaint cannon. that map has been so evil we can fight on it, but we can't use it ;_;
I want to fire a laser into space!!! |
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Sam Tektzby
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Posted - 2013.10.20 11:31:00 -
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1.8 ..ehm.. i saw this before already it was 1.5 and patching time and there will be another patch and another and ever and ever and ever.. still just promises, i dont se proper progress, just tinking with mechanics, nerfing buffing, patching, patching, boosting, nerfing and patching oncemore and everything withou any progress in already broken game.
I saw somewhere great idea and that idea was, turn off dust and start once again. |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 11:31:00 -
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Eskel Bondfree wrote:When CCP Preatorian said 'we need free roaming areas', I'm pretty sure he was talking about larger maps with more space for vehicles to move about, not about a new game mode outside of battles where players just wander around the map.
No he was definitely talking about PvE. Where you land on your planet outside of battle and have fun without the redzone in the way. This feature has been talked about and featured in interviews for years. The mega terrian system will one day make sure our maps are one of kind. More like giant permade pieces randomly put together but still! Progress! Persistence maps! |
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.20 12:10:00 -
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Lol, CCP as usual. Big dreams. Awesome"vision". Sh*t development.
Good luck getting any of this in two years. If it is added it'll just get pulled for "rebalance".
CCP is at an all time laughable high. |
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DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.10.20 12:14:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:Eskel Bondfree wrote:When CCP Preatorian said 'we need free roaming areas', I'm pretty sure he was talking about larger maps with more space for vehicles to move about, not about a new game mode outside of battles where players just wander around the map. No he was definitely talking about PvE. Where you land on your planet outside of battle and have fun without the redzone in the way. This feature has been talked about and featured in interviews for years. The mega terrian system will one day make sure our maps are one of kind. More like giant permade pieces randomly put together but still! Progress! Persistence maps!
Seriously? I totaly missed that in the stream, but that would be awesome for training purposesand general shenanigans.
Also they were already "playing with the light suits an the heavy's were nearly there" and they wanted them to be out by 1.8?! I sure hope so cause, i'll lay an egg when that happens.
Not to happy with the whole AUR for loyalty thing though, but from a business pov it makes sense i guess " don't wanna grind for the good stuff, get your wallet out sir"
There was a screenshot with drones in there somewhere, what kind of teasery is that? And buy a new toothbrush?
FW stuff overall sounds nice though, and thanks for the write-up. |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 12:23:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Lol, CCP as usual. Big dreams. Awesome"vision". Sh*t development.
Good luck getting any of this in two years. If it is added it'll just get pulled for "rebalance".
CCP is at an all time laughable high.
True |
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Rinzler XVII
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Posted - 2013.10.20 12:53:00 -
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Sick and tired of Soon TM and hearing about stuff they hope to put in .... sorry CCP i honestly don;t want to hear about anything ... put it in the game or stfu ... |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 13:17:00 -
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Rinzler XVII wrote:Sick and tired of Soon TM and hearing about stuff they hope to put in .... sorry CCP i honestly don;t want to hear about anything ... put it in the game or stfu ...
Zup, im really interested in one thingie, what is soon for CCP. It was never soon. I just want proper progress with proper data and dates. Its easy. |
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Sam Tektzby wrote:1.8 ..ehm.. i saw this before already it was 1.5 and patching time and there will be another patch and another and ever and ever and ever.. still just promises, i dont se proper progress, just tinking with mechanics, nerfing buffing, patching, patching, boosting, nerfing and patching oncemore and everything withou any progress in already broken game.
I saw somewhere great idea and that idea was, turn off dust and start once again. ever notice nobody ever replies to your comments?..hint hint go away kid |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 15:06:00 -
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Everything is cool but the one thing I've been waiting for and wish for ever since I seen it in one of the dust 514 trailers is ORBITAL ARTILLERY!!!!! **** YES!! Can't wait to see this in game. |
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Lt Royal
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.10.20 15:07:00 -
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Just wanted to give a shout out to Foundation Seldon for posting the lecture (with time stamp), which I have linked in the OP +1 to your sir o7 |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 15:20:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Lol, CCP as usual. Big dreams. Awesome"vision". Sh*t development.
Good luck getting any of this in two years. If it is added it'll just get pulled for "rebalance".
CCP is at an all time laughable high.
not if they can pull off the player market 2.0 and at least the major FW changes as well as all suits by december... They have a window they can show me at least they can come through.
I was nice to see CCP say "Dust is not an mmo" I was like YEAH NO **** CCP and then they said "we're thiinking adding the mmo" me, HUZZAH! |
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Eskel Bondfree
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.10.20 15:21:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:Eskel Bondfree wrote:When CCP Preatorian said 'we need free roaming areas', I'm pretty sure he was talking about larger maps with more space for vehicles to move about, not about a new game mode outside of battles where players just wander around the map. No he was definitely talking about PvE. Where you land on your planet outside of battle and have fun without the redzone in the way. This feature has been talked about and featured in interviews for years. The mega terrian system will one day make sure our maps are one of kind. More like giant permade pieces randomly put together but still! Progress! Persistence maps! Hm, not sure but we might be talking about different parts of the presentation. What I know for sure is that the one time I heard 'free roaming' in the presentation, it was during the Q&A session when that last guy asked about skirmish 1.0. Preatorion explained that the corridor like gameplay of skirmish 1.0 was not their focus, and that they needed 'free roaming areas' for vehicles instead.
Anyhow, I sure hope we will be able to visit planets outside of battle one day, it would add greatly to the immersion and be an ideal environment for testing new gear and tactics. |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 15:23:00 -
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Eskel Bondfree wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:Eskel Bondfree wrote:When CCP Preatorian said 'we need free roaming areas', I'm pretty sure he was talking about larger maps with more space for vehicles to move about, not about a new game mode outside of battles where players just wander around the map. No he was definitely talking about PvE. Where you land on your planet outside of battle and have fun without the redzone in the way. This feature has been talked about and featured in interviews for years. The mega terrian system will one day make sure our maps are one of kind. More like giant permade pieces randomly put together but still! Progress! Persistence maps! Hm, not sure but we might be talking about different parts of the presentation. What I know for sure is that the one time I heard 'free roaming' in the presentation, it was during the Q&A session when that last guy asked about skirmish 1.0. Preatorion explained that the corridor like gameplay of skirmish 1.0 was not their focus, and that they needed 'free roaming areas' for vehicles instead. Anyhow, I sure hope we will be able to visit planets outside of battle one day, it would add greatly to the immersion and be an ideal environment for testing new gear and tactics. Ok so the plan I heard was this.
PvE on planets
Rouge drones stop slavage used to create raw materials for ground combat.
send up to space for eve players to buy from you
Eve players create gear with those materials and they can be sold back to the dust community
But yeah I'm not holding my breath for PvE before next summer release. More important things to be done! |
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Free roaming!!! FINALLY!!!
Seems like they're turning Dust into more of a sandbox like Eve...which is GREAT! ![P](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_p.png) |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 15:28:00 -
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Roy Xkillerz wrote: Other point. Why not combine free roaming with PVE areas and mining?
Shakes head in disappointment that you would even consider mining in Dust, its boring enough in space!
Sam Tektzby wrote:1.8 ..ehm.. i saw this before already it was 1.5 and patching time and there will be another patch and another and ever and ever and ever.. still just promises, i dont se proper progress, just tinking with mechanics, nerfing buffing, patching, patching, boosting, nerfing and patching oncemore and everything withou any progress in already broken game.
What you said there is pretty much how successful games work, GÇ£tweaking mechanics, nerfing, patching, boosting and patchingGÇ¥. If Dust was released as a full complete title it would get rather boring and we (the players) wouldn't be able to get the game we wanted to play from our input to CCP. I mean; they have been doing the same thing with EVE Online for 10 years! Have faith my son!
Wilhelm Klingspor well remembered, I did forget to add in the bits about the Scout and Heavy suits! And updated, +1
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Posted - 2013.10.20 15:33:00 -
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ugh it can hard to have fath when they ignore the community and have an unfinished game and are acting like it was ready for release... by unfinished I mean that's the impression people get when trying the game out and seeing odd things like missing racial suits and such.
But I know hopefully one day we'll look back and think, wow, dust used to be terrible thank goodness we're past that era ... |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 15:36:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:ugh it can hard to have fath when they ignore the community and have an unfinished game and are acting like it was ready for release... by unfinished I mean that's the impression people get when trying the game out and seeing odd things like missing racial suits and such.
But I know hopefully one day we'll look back and think, wow, dust used to be terrible thank goodness we're past that era ...
I don't think you realise how CCP designs games. Dust won't ever be "finished", just like Eve is never finished. They will always add features. And yes, that means not all features will be there from the start. Hell, there are things in Eve that NO ONE even thought about when the game first came out. |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 15:41:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:ugh it can hard to have fath when they ignore the community and have an unfinished game and are acting like it was ready for release... by unfinished I mean that's the impression people get when trying the game out and seeing odd things like missing racial suits and such.
But I know hopefully one day we'll look back and think, wow, dust used to be terrible thank goodness we're past that era ... I don't think you realise how CCP designs games. Dust won't ever be "finished", just like Eve is never finished. They will always add features. And yes, that means not all features will be there from the start. Hell, there are things in Eve that NO ONE even thought about when the game first came out.
I don't think the majority of the player base understand this, as they have been so used to console games being fully released and GÇ£finishedGÇ¥ apart from the here and there (expensive) DLCGÇÖs. |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 15:57:00 -
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soon (not SOONGäó) has been said many many times... I lost faith .... |
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Lt Royal wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:ugh it can hard to have fath when they ignore the community and have an unfinished game and are acting like it was ready for release... by unfinished I mean that's the impression people get when trying the game out and seeing odd things like missing racial suits and such.
But I know hopefully one day we'll look back and think, wow, dust used to be terrible thank goodness we're past that era ... I don't think you realise how CCP designs games. Dust won't ever be "finished", just like Eve is never finished. They will always add features. And yes, that means not all features will be there from the start. Hell, there are things in Eve that NO ONE even thought about when the game first came out. I don't think the majority of the player base understand this, as they have been so used to console games being fully released and GÇ£finishedGÇ¥ apart from the here and there (expensive) DLCGÇÖs.
And that's the reason I'm still playing Eve after 10ish years while I hardly ever play other games that old. I hope they take the same approach with Dust and continuously improve it ![Smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile.png) |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 16:37:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:ugh it can hard to have fath when they ignore the community and have an unfinished game and are acting like it was ready for release... by unfinished I mean that's the impression people get when trying the game out and seeing odd things like missing racial suits and such.
But I know hopefully one day we'll look back and think, wow, dust used to be terrible thank goodness we're past that era ... I don't think you realise how CCP designs games. Dust won't ever be "finished", just like Eve is never finished. They will always add features. And yes, that means not all features will be there from the start. Hell, there are things in Eve that NO ONE even thought about when the game first came out.
I've been here since playing eve since beta don't lecture me. Was eve released with minmatar frigates but no minmatar weapons, randomly only having only caldari and gallente battleships, or released with ships that have bonuses to weapons not in the game for years? No, no it didn't. So shut it, I've heard this 1000 times. What is with your people, I understand full well how CCP design games. You on the other hand obviously have no idea.
My point was when people log into dust the IMPRESSION *reading comprehension ftw!* people get is "wow this game is unfinished." The impression players get is all that is important. While eve had a rough start it wasn't missing any super basic core content also had more players online than dust has now.
A 60$ PC MMO title in 2002 with 15$ a month price tag at release had more players online than a f2p console shooter also made by CCP does in the same release timeframe. Do the ****ing math. People get an awful taste in their mouth when they try dust, it's not like it's not justified. Even if it's ignorance of the fact that CCP will never stop changing the game, they won't know that, they will only know what they can see.
Eve expands outwards, Dust is expanding inwards because there is no base to expands out from yet. We are waiting on core content that should've been in the game on release. It hurts the game in profound way, end of story. |
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pyramidhead 420 wrote:Sam Tektzby wrote:1.8 ..ehm.. i saw this before already it was 1.5 and patching time and there will be another patch and another and ever and ever and ever.. still just promises, i dont se proper progress, just tinking with mechanics, nerfing buffing, patching, patching, boosting, nerfing and patching oncemore and everything withou any progress in already broken game.
I saw somewhere great idea and that idea was, turn off dust and start once again. ever notice nobody ever replies to your comments?..hint hint go away kid
Comment without objectivism is just nonsece, btw im not kid. There is something in psychology about excessive using of words like kid, girl etc. Just tell me more and i can give you a complete profilization "boyo". |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:19:00 -
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Wow, this thread exploded overnight. |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:36:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:ugh it can hard to have fath when they ignore the community and have an unfinished game and are acting like it was ready for release... by unfinished I mean that's the impression people get when trying the game out and seeing odd things like missing racial suits and such.
But I know hopefully one day we'll look back and think, wow, dust used to be terrible thank goodness we're past that era ... I don't think you realise how CCP designs games. Dust won't ever be "finished", just like Eve is never finished. They will always add features. And yes, that means not all features will be there from the start. Hell, there are things in Eve that NO ONE even thought about when the game first came out. I've been here since playing eve since beta don't lecture me. Was eve released with minmatar frigates but no minmatar weapons, randomly only having only caldari and gallente battleships, or released with ships that have bonuses to weapons not in the game for years? No, no it didn't. So shut it, I've heard this 1000 times. What is with your people, I understand full well how CCP design games. You on the other hand obviously have no idea. My point was when people log into dust the IMPRESSION *reading comprehension ftw!* people get is "wow this game is unfinished." The impression players get is all that is important. While eve had a rough start it wasn't missing any super basic core content also had more players online than dust has now. A 60$ PC MMO title in 2002 with 15$ a month price tag at release had more players online than a f2p console shooter also made by CCP does in the same release timeframe. Do the ****ing math. People get an awful taste in their mouth when they try dust, it's not like it's not justified. Even if it's ignorance of the fact that CCP will never stop changing the game, they won't know that, they will only know what they can see. Eve expands outwards, Dust is expanding inwards because there is no base to expands out from yet. We are waiting on core content that should've been in the game on release. It hurts the game in profound way, end of story.
I can only give you one like for this post,but in my heart,I'm giving you at least five.
This whole presentation from CCP feels like a desperate act to me.They they are still shedding players almost weekly,without any of them to EVER return,added with the fact that PS4 is only a few weeks away,and even more people will be leaving.Less players means less chance for those players to buy AUR.
I honestly feel like without an announcement of this game going to PS4,this game will be dead in the water.I honestly can't see any more than 2,000~2,500 players online this time next year.
Next gen consoles will be dominating and more than likely hitting their full stride this time next year with MUCH better games than Dust,thus why would anyone still be playing this game with a tiny playerbase and missing assets?
IMO,the only thing that could possibly save Dust,is a move to PS4 AND a name change.Calling it Dust 514 on PS4 would more than likely be a bad move,considering that people that played it and totally ripped it will be more inclined to have a built in prejudice of it.
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:44:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:ugh it can hard to have fath when they ignore the community and have an unfinished game and are acting like it was ready for release... by unfinished I mean that's the impression people get when trying the game out and seeing odd things like missing racial suits and such.
But I know hopefully one day we'll look back and think, wow, dust used to be terrible thank goodness we're past that era ... I don't think you realise how CCP designs games. Dust won't ever be "finished", just like Eve is never finished. They will always add features. And yes, that means not all features will be there from the start. Hell, there are things in Eve that NO ONE even thought about when the game first came out. I've been here since playing eve since beta don't lecture me. Was eve released with minmatar frigates but no minmatar weapons, randomly only having only caldari and gallente battleships, or released with ships that have bonuses to weapons not in the game for years? No, no it didn't. So shut it, I've heard this 1000 times. What is with your people, I understand full well how CCP design games. You on the other hand obviously have no idea. My point was when people log into dust the IMPRESSION *reading comprehension ftw!* people get is "wow this game is unfinished." The impression players get is all that is important. While eve had a rough start it wasn't missing any super basic core content also had more players online than dust has now. A 60$ PC MMO title in 2002 with 15$ a month price tag at release had more players online than a f2p console shooter also made by CCP does in the same release timeframe. Do the ****ing math. People get an awful taste in their mouth when they try dust, it's not like it's not justified. Even if it's ignorance of the fact that CCP will never stop changing the game, they won't know that, they will only know what they can see. Eve expands outwards, Dust is expanding inwards because there is no base to expands out from yet. We are waiting on core content that should've been in the game on release. It hurts the game in profound way, end of story.
+1 for the solid critical post |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 18:49:00 -
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Oh,another problem.
The guy starts talking about the future of Dust,from now through 2014.The first thing he mentions is adding more MMO to the game,and the second thing is and improved marketplace?!
This is very telling to me.Again,more concern is going towards things that should be lower on the "Things To Do" list.
Too worried about how they are going to monetize the game,instead of how they are going make a game that's fun to play.
They still need to work on overall mechanics of the game,framerate,and lag.
The foundation of this game is still very weak and something that CCP has constantly neglected in favor of more content and monetizing elements. |
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Lt Royal wrote:Roy Xkillerz wrote: Other point. Why not combine free roaming with PVE areas and mining?
Shakes head in disappointment that you would even consider mining in Dust, its boring enough in space!
Sam Tektzby wrote:1.8 ..ehm.. i saw this before already it was 1.5 and patching time and there will be another patch and another and ever and ever and ever.. still just promises, i dont se proper progress, just tinking with mechanics, nerfing buffing, patching, patching, boosting, nerfing and patching oncemore and everything withou any progress in already broken game. What you said there is pretty much how successful games work, GÇ£tweaking mechanics, nerfing, patching, boosting and patchingGÇ¥. If Dust was released as a full complete title it would get rather boring and we (the players) wouldn't be able to get the game we wanted to play from our input to CCP. I mean; they have been doing the same thing with EVE Online for 10 years! Have faith my son! Wilhelm Klingspor well remembered, I did forget to add in the bits about the Scout and Heavy suits! And updated, +1
First of all, im not your son. Second thingie is nope it is not. Succesfull job is if job is done. finished game in ten years after full release is just BUST like hell. End of story. |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 19:17:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Wow, this thread exploded overnight.
Yeh it did, which is great for me as IGÇÖm a karma wh0re! |
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Th3rdSun wrote:
Next gen consoles will be dominating and more than likely hitting their full stride this time next year with MUCH better f2P MMOs games than Dust,thus why would anyone still be playing this game with a tiny playerbase and missing assets?
So a ps4/PC release. It's UDK I can not see any reason not to port the most easily ported engine ever created to every platform possible. ASAP
well... once the core content is done at least... So people don't try dust PC and it's still got holes it in. |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 20:32:00 -
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Also, I realize this is unrelated, but since this thread talks about EVE Vegas, I'll leave this here:
http://i.imgur.com/NXlkqvG.png
Can we take a moment to appreciate how ******* gorgeous this UI is? If the HUD in Dust was as pretty as this I would cream my pants. |
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That is a fantastic future feature list. I'll add it to the existing fantastic feature list.
I'll add the following to the "currently implemented" feature list:-
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LOL still no f#@king rollover sp system. What a f@$king joke. |
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Believe it when I hold it.
Still waiting on my Combat Rifle which was supposed to be here months ago, then rumored again this month and now hopefully by December ![X](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_x.png)
I feel for the players that want to play the other scout suits or the heavy class that has been stuck with one suit. Poor Vehicle users that dont have proto vehicles.
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Daxxis KANNAH wrote:Believe it when I hold it. Still waiting on my Combat Rifle which was supposed to be here months ago, then rumored again this month and now hopefully by December ![X](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_x.png) I feel for the players that want to play the other scout suits or the heavy class that has been stuck with one suit. Poor Vehicle users that dont have proto vehicles. Again suggesting that proto vehicles wouldn't be a horrible idea that would only serve to make things worse.
So you fix the balance issues between AV and vehicles by allowing a vehicle user to train up for one that can easily resist Proto AV?
At that point, what's the point of even having Proto AV? No one will use any AV or Vehicles that aren't at the highest meta level, so you end up with AV players feeling like they can't do **** to vehicles again.
I'm looking forward to getting my hands on the new vehicle system coming in 1.7. I think this has the potential to allow both AV and Vehicle players to feel useful and have fun. |
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moving PC to nullsec, and the warbarge thing sounds like right move for PC having EvE alliance require us for their Sov means plenty of action for everybody |
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that screen shot of the new market 2.0 had drones being featured. "new drones!" is what it said i think. maybe we will be getting drones? |
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Daxxis KANNAH wrote:Believe it when I hold it. Still waiting on my Combat Rifle which was supposed to be here months ago, then rumored again this month and now hopefully by December ![X](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_x.png) I feel for the players that want to play the other scout suits or the heavy class that has been stuck with one suit. Poor Vehicle users that dont have proto vehicles. Again suggesting that proto vehicles wouldn't be a horrible idea that would only serve to make things worse. So you fix the balance issues between AV and vehicles by allowing a vehicle user to train up for one that can easily resist Proto AV? At that point, what's the point of even having Proto AV? No one will use any AV or Vehicles that aren't at the highest meta level, so you end up with AV players feeling like they can't do **** to vehicles again. I'm looking forward to getting my hands on the new vehicle system coming in 1.7. I think this has the potential to allow both AV and Vehicle players to feel useful and have fun. LOL its cute that you think 1.7 will have new vehicle system. |
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The part about having a battle barge piloted by EVE players looks intriguing. I'll believe it when I see it, but if they could pull it off it would add a new profession to the EVE side of things. |
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DeathwindRising wrote:that screen shot of the new market 2.0 had drones being featured. "new drones!" is what it said i think. maybe we will be getting drones?
They mentioned drones in the presentation, could be interesting. |
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If anything I wish tanks and dropsuits worked the same way.
Militia Light Frame -no skill needed Basic Light Frame *equal to advanced* -At least one point in basic light frames Prototype Scout Frame -At least 4 points in basic and 1 point in advanced scout skill
I mean one thing I can't understand is why have so many tiers of suits. When the game was in beta each skill gave no bonus per level to suits. Instead the bonus only unlock better suits. I feel like the old system and the new system are at odds with each other from critical perspective. Since suits can get all get better from leveling them to 5, why have bonuses on a prototype suit at all? You can't use it without having 5 skills anyways.
Instead unlock the prototype suits at level 1, increase the influence of skill bonuses to a level like in eve online. There is no circumstance you'll have a protosuit and not have the skill at level 5. It removes the point of bonuses per level to only unlock the suit at level 5.
Or keep at 3 levels of suit but unlock all 3 at level one and make the isk cost the only difference.
Then they can sell those skill clusters as temp ways to raise your skill points. got to make money somewhere. |
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Enlightened Infantries
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steadyhand amarr wrote:moving PC to nullsec, and the warbarge thing sounds like right move for PC having EvE alliance require us for their Sov means plenty of action for everybody
I think that would open up hundreds of times the planets to PC as they have now.
IMO, the way to go would be to have a raiding system to destroy infrastructure and speed I-Hub/station timers. Fighting in Stations beats Walking in Stations. ![P](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_p.png)
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Meeko Fent
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.10.20 23:02:00 -
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Looks good.
People just to stop being so pessimistic and enjoy what they have already given us for free. |
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Lt Royal
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.10.21 00:14:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Looks good.
People just to stop being so pessimistic and enjoy what they have already given us for free.
Agreed! Im just glad its CCP behind it rather than some other company..... |
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Meeko Fent
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.10.21 00:45:00 -
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Lt Royal wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Looks good.
People just to stop being so pessimistic and enjoy what they have already given us for free. Agreed! Im just glad its CCP behind it rather than some other company..... *cough* EA *cough*
But yeah, more differences in things to do, more player interactivity besides "This guy shoots guns like me" would be appreciated along with the new gear. |
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expert intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.10.21 00:46:00 -
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what I would like to see happen is that PI gets a bonus from dust mercs running PvE against the drones on player owned planets. also that the map setup is based on the PI set up. Also that dust players can free roam and set up their planet for a home field advantage with installations of their choosing. |
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THE-BEAST
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:00:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Looks good.
People just to stop being so pessimistic and enjoy what they have already given us for free.
Free? No I've paid plenty and always get a little tired of you free loaders from being happy cause you haven't paid anything. I've paid for this game and have reasonable expectations. |
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Meeko Fent
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:05:00 -
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THE-BEAST wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Looks good.
People just to stop being so pessimistic and enjoy what they have already given us for free. Free? No I've paid plenty and always get a little tired of you free loaders from being happy cause you haven't paid anything. I've paid for this game and have reasonable expectations. You paid cause you wanted to pay.
It's entirely a choice to pay, and you made that choice |
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:08:00 -
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I have paid $20 and invested countless hours into this game.......I can't wait to see what ccp is going to do :D |
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2013.10.21 01:09:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:we are still generally cut off from the EVE community such as not even sharing forums
Good, let it stay that way.
The EVE forums are special in that the only people who can post are those with subscriptions, the last thing we need are armchair nimrods posting who don't even have a sub, be they dusters or otherwise, on EVE discussions.
If we ever share forums, there needs to be a way where Dust Bunnies can only post in the dust sub-forums, and general chat, and Pod Pilots can only post in the eve sub-forums, and general chat, requiring both subbs (free Dustie out of academy and a paid Eve sub) to post everywhere. |
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Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.10.21 02:42:00 -
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So I just finished watching pretty much the whole presentation,and I'm more convinced now than ever,Dust 514 will be dead with in 12 months.
It was stated and reiterated that they are "laser focused" on developing for PS3.This is pretty much a death sentence for the game.
On top of that,these changes regarding Loyalty Points without ever once defining what needed to be fixed with the core mechanics of the gameplay is more evidence to me that they really have no idea how to develop a shooter.
One thing I wished from the peanut gallery is that someone would have asked the question of what steps are CCP taking to acquire and bring back more players to the game.All of these so called changes and improvements won't mean squat when the playerbase is topping out at 2,000 players online at any given time.I'm sorry,but if anyone thinks that this game can be a viable entity with this much development,and that few of players,they are fooling themselves.
I was a little annoyed with the guys saying that there are 80 million PS3's,as if everyone that has a PS3 is 1)using it's online functionality,and 2) are all playing Dust. This guy is obviously directing damage control more than anything else,but no one with half a brain is being fooled.
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Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.10.21 03:01:00 -
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Its still beyond me that people continue to give CCP a pass with this free notion when they chose the business model and touted that this was AAA level quality.
Now what I know is that when you say you can pick your own way to play and we have x races and y classes - I expect the very least of that at launch, not waiting months to hopefully have the opportunity to play that setup in the future. |
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The Attorney General
MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.21 03:13:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:They have said all this before.... LOTS of times, YEARS ago. ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png)
This needs to be repeated to remind people not to get their hopes up, and to expect further delays.
Then, when it finally arrives, a year over due, expect it to be buggy as hell. And probably in need of balancing. |
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.10.21 03:26:00 -
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"All racial gear to be released soon (not SOONGäó)"
They said that at Fanfest 2013, six months ago. So it's more along the lines of Soon TMGäó |
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Silas Swakhammer
GamersForChrist Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.21 03:44:00 -
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Excellent, thanks for the list. |
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Lt Royal
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.10.21 04:22:00 -
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Phew our BPO's are safe. I updated the OP :) |
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Talbain Sigmund
Deep Black Industries Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.21 04:26:00 -
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Lt Royal wrote:
Heavy suits are currently being modeled as you read. Which is kool but we won't see them for awhile as they will still need to be balanced, which might mean a nerf or a buff for the current Amarr Heavy?
Yeah. Heard that before. In March when DUST "launched" and people were clamoring about well, damn near everything. Heavies were promised we'd have something other than the amarr fatsuit and that it was already being modeled and we'd see them in shortly.
I'm pretty much to the point of "Proof or it isn't happening" as far as Shanghai is concerned. PC team excluded. They've actually been delivering on what they tell us they're working on. |
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GTA-V FTW
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.21 11:46:00 -
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Talbain Sigmund wrote:[quote=Lt Royal]
I'm pretty much to the point of "Proof or it isn't happening" as far as Shanghai is concerned. PC team excluded. They've actually been delivering on what they tell us they're working on.
Its a shame that what they have been delivering is garbage due to the fact that the rest of the game is pure crap.
PC is lipstick on a pig.
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.10.21 11:51:00 -
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Talbain Sigmund wrote:Lt Royal wrote:
Heavy suits are currently being modeled as you read. Which is kool but we won't see them for awhile as they will still need to be balanced, which might mean a nerf or a buff for the current Amarr Heavy?
Yeah. Heard that before. In March when DUST "launched" and people were clamoring about well, damn near everything. Heavies were promised we'd have something other than the amarr fatsuit and that it was already being modeled and we'd see them in shortly. I'm pretty much to the point of "Proof or it isn't happening" as far as Shanghai is concerned. PC team excluded. They've actually been delivering on what they tell us they're working on.
Even the CPM is saying this. |
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Lt Royal
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.10.22 03:50:00 -
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Updated OP with images that were posted thanks to Zion Shad from his thread. |
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.10.22 03:58:00 -
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Oh noes!! Cloaks!!! Interesting read...excited about what's coming. |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3500
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Posted - 2013.10.22 04:01:00 -
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Wants Amarr scout, also wished CCP would allow me to reallocate my dropsuit skills... |
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Skihids
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:45:00 -
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Weren't portable shield bubbles promised "very soon" a couple months ago in a dev blog?
Did they mention it in their talk, or has it disappeared? |
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Lt Royal
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2068
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Posted - 2013.10.22 17:49:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Weren't portable shield bubbles promised "very soon" a couple months ago in a dev blog?
Did they mention it in their talk, or has it disappeared?
I don't think they mentioned it in a dev blog as such, just as something they were looking to implement as per community request.
And no, its wasnt mentioned in the lecture. |
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Skihids
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.10.22 18:01:00 -
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Lt Royal wrote:Skihids wrote:Weren't portable shield bubbles promised "very soon" a couple months ago in a dev blog?
Did they mention it in their talk, or has it disappeared? I don't think they mentioned it in a dev blog as such, just as something they were looking to implement as per community request. And no, its wasnt mentioned in the lecture.
I found it in the "Equipment is Your Friend" blog of March 25:
Quote:So thatGÇÖs what you can expect in the next update, but what about beyond that? There are two equipment items on the top of our list that we want to get in to the game as soon as we can. The first is a Shield Generator. Ever wished for some cover where there isnGÇÖt any? Wish no more, with the shield generator youGÇÖll be able to deploy your own personal static shield bubble. Pretty handy when a ship is dropping bombs on your head from orbit or youGÇÖve been caught in the open by an enemy trying to melt you with a laser rifle.
The second item is a Cloaking Field. This sneaky bit of kit will not only make you (almost) invisible to other combatants, it will also blind turret AI targeting systems. It isnGÇÖt perfect invisibility, scanners will still pick you up if you havenGÇÖt masked your signal well enough, motion will disrupt the field to some extent and weapon fire will cause the field to shut down. This means it will take some skill to use to its maximum potential. This item is going to be a real game changer, particularly for Scout dropsuits which have been screaming out for stealth gear.
It was mentioned in the same breath as cloaking and actually came first.
That was seven months ago.
If they've stopped talking about it I can only assume that it's been scrapped or pushed to the back burner. |
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Lt Royal
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2068
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Posted - 2013.10.22 18:08:00 -
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Ah my bad, good find! Maybe it has been scraped or is being reworked. Seeing as the Tactical Laser Strikes (OBGÇÖs from EVE pilots) can destroy CRUGÇÖs and installations, you can be safe to say the shield bubble won't give you enough protection from an OB like they stated and if it did; they could easily withstand any damage from anything being fielded on the burn zone and thus would be OP.
I guess will will just have to see. |
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.10.23 23:00:00 -
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I like much of what you summed up here. Especially the "forcing" Dust/Eve interaction in PC and making FW something more unique. I wish they would have said something about PvE as another way to make ISK to sink into FW and PC not to mention as a way to perhaps gather different resources to sell to Eve pilots or something.
We definitely need something to break up the monotony of Dust as it is currently |
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Super Sniper95
GAC WORLD
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Posted - 2013.10.31 16:17:00 -
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So we will be able to trade our weapons among us? That means that if I want to sell my weapons that I dont use to another Merc I can do it? Or to change for example 10 Gastun's HMG for 10 Thales Tar 07 sniper rifle it can be done too in Uprising 1.8? |
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crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
2015
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Posted - 2013.12.11 13:46:00 -
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Daxxis KANNAH wrote:Believe it when I hold it. Still waiting on my Combat Rifle which was supposed to be here months ago, then rumored again this month and now hopefully by December ![X](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_x.png) I feel for the players that want to play the other scout suits or the heavy class that has been stuck with one suit. Poor Vehicle users that dont have proto vehicles. Still waiting on installations market section to have something. Been empty but accessible since skirmish 1.0 Or the table which worked in skrimish 1.0 and actully helped in the 1st build of skrismh 2.0 Why was this feature removed? Why am I still staring at an empty table in this AAA shooter...
Why taunt us? just remove the market sections that have nothing in them, let us forget mechs are promised for 2013. |
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spoony moon
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Also, I realize this is unrelated, but since this thread talks about EVE Vegas, I'll leave this here: http://i.imgur.com/NXlkqvG.pngCan we take a moment to appreciate how ******* gorgeous this UI is? If the HUD in Dust was as pretty as this I would cream my pants. eve will never get that UI, it's not real sadly |
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Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.12.14 01:16:00 -
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ANY WORD ON MECHS?
I swear CCP said something about mechs... MTACS i think they are called? They said we would get them in 2013!!! |
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crazy space 1
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
2089
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Posted - 2013.12.14 08:37:00 -
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thesupertman wrote:ANY WORD ON MECHS?
I swear CCP said something about mechs... MTACS i think they are called? They said we would get them in 2013!!!
I've got the link on hand if you want it...
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