What is "Free Roaming"?

Also, racial items and market based updates have me the most excited.

Scrap half of that list and addd soonGäó to it, summer 2014+
Just talk and nothing but hot air to get more players.

The amount of people at the Dust presentation and the Q&A was hilarious.

How many times they mentioned that there are tons of PS3 out there, so they focus on PS3 only? Way to fall behind, CCP. Good job. So many PS3's out there yea, just no one gives a damn about Dust. One can have dreams however, I like it. That presentation was a slap in the face, probably took 15 minutes to set up.

Thanks for the thread. :)

We can't see the stream recorded and uploaded somewhere ?

Wonder if that's the full 10-year plan... that'd mean we can expect 1-2 bullet points each year (which, given their track record, actually sounds believable ;)).

Orbital artillery on the plants will be able to shoot an anchored Warbarge to destroy it. Im guessing youGÇÖll have to own that district which has the Orbital Artillery.

When CCP Preatorian said 'we need free roaming areas', I'm pretty sure he was talking about larger maps with more space for vehicles to move about, not about a new game mode outside of battles where players just wander around the map.

No he was definitely talking about PvE. Where you land on your planet outside of battle and have fun without the redzone in the way. This feature has been talked about and featured in interviews for years. The mega terrian system will one day make sure our maps are one of kind. More like giant permade pieces randomly put together but still! Progress! Persistence maps!

Lol, CCP as usual. Big dreams. Awesome"vision". Sh*t development.

Good luck getting any of this in two years. If it is added it'll just get pulled for "rebalance".

CCP is at an all time laughable high.

Sick and tired of Soon TM and hearing about stuff they hope to put in .... sorry CCP i honestly don;t want to hear about anything ... put it in the game or stfu ...

1.8 ..ehm.. i saw this before already it was 1.5 and patching time and there will be another patch and another and ever and ever and ever.. still just promises, i dont se proper progress, just tinking with mechanics, nerfing buffing, patching, patching, boosting, nerfing and patching oncemore and everything withou any progress in already broken game.

I saw somewhere great idea and that idea was, turn off dust and start once again.

Lol, CCP as usual. Big dreams. Awesome"vision". Sh*t development.

Good luck getting any of this in two years. If it is added it'll just get pulled for "rebalance".

CCP is at an all time laughable high.

No he was definitely talking about PvE. Where you land on your planet outside of battle and have fun without the redzone in the way. This feature has been talked about and featured in interviews for years. The mega terrian system will one day make sure our maps are one of kind. More like giant permade pieces randomly put together but still! Progress! Persistence maps!

Hm, not sure but we might be talking about different parts of the presentation. What I know for sure is that the one time I heard 'free roaming' in the presentation, it was during the Q&A session when that last guy asked about skirmish 1.0. Preatorion explained that the corridor like gameplay of skirmish 1.0 was not their focus, and that they needed 'free roaming areas' for vehicles instead.

Anyhow, I sure hope we will be able to visit planets outside of battle one day, it would add greatly to the immersion and be an ideal environment for testing new gear and tactics.

Other point. Why not combine free roaming with PVE areas and mining?

1.8 ..ehm.. i saw this before already it was 1.5 and patching time and there will be another patch and another and ever and ever and ever.. still just promises, i dont se proper progress, just tinking with mechanics, nerfing buffing, patching, patching, boosting, nerfing and patching oncemore and everything withou any progress in already broken game.

ugh it can hard to have fath when they ignore the community and have an unfinished game and are acting like it was ready for release... by unfinished I mean that's the impression people get when trying the game out and seeing odd things like missing racial suits and such.

But I know hopefully one day we'll look back and think, wow, dust used to be terrible thank goodness we're past that era ...

I don't think you realise how CCP designs games. Dust won't ever be "finished", just like Eve is never finished. They will always add features. And yes, that means not all features will be there from the start. Hell, there are things in Eve that NO ONE even thought about when the game first came out.

I don't think the majority of the player base understand this, as they have been so used to console games being fully released and GÇ£finishedGÇ¥ apart from the here and there (expensive) DLCGÇÖs.

I don't think you realise how CCP designs games. Dust won't ever be "finished", just like Eve is never finished. They will always add features. And yes, that means not all features will be there from the start. Hell, there are things in Eve that NO ONE even thought about when the game first came out.

ever notice nobody ever replies to your comments?..hint hint go away kid

I've been here since playing eve since beta don't lecture me. Was eve released with minmatar frigates but no minmatar weapons, randomly only having only caldari and gallente battleships, or released with ships that have bonuses to weapons not in the game for years? No, no it didn't. So shut it, I've heard this 1000 times. What is with your people, I understand full well how CCP design games. You on the other hand obviously have no idea.

My point was when people log into dust the IMPRESSION *reading comprehension ftw!* people get is "wow this game is unfinished." The impression players get is all that is important. While eve had a rough start it wasn't missing any super basic core content also had more players online than dust has now.

A 60$ PC MMO title in 2002 with 15$ a month price tag at release had more players online than a f2p console shooter also made by CCP does in the same release timeframe. Do the ****ing math. People get an awful taste in their mouth when they try dust, it's not like it's not justified. Even if it's ignorance of the fact that CCP will never stop changing the game, they won't know that, they will only know what they can see.

Eve expands outwards, Dust is expanding inwards because there is no base to expands out from yet. We are waiting on core content that should've been in the game on release. It hurts the game in profound way, end of story.

I've been here since playing eve since beta don't lecture me. Was eve released with minmatar frigates but no minmatar weapons, randomly only having only caldari and gallente battleships, or released with ships that have bonuses to weapons not in the game for years? No, no it didn't. So shut it, I've heard this 1000 times. What is with your people, I understand full well how CCP design games. You on the other hand obviously have no idea.

My point was when people log into dust the IMPRESSION *reading comprehension ftw!* people get is "wow this game is unfinished." The impression players get is all that is important. While eve had a rough start it wasn't missing any super basic core content also had more players online than dust has now.

A 60$ PC MMO title in 2002 with 15$ a month price tag at release had more players online than a f2p console shooter also made by CCP does in the same release timeframe. Do the ****ing math. People get an awful taste in their mouth when they try dust, it's not like it's not justified. Even if it's ignorance of the fact that CCP will never stop changing the game, they won't know that, they will only know what they can see.

Eve expands outwards, Dust is expanding inwards because there is no base to expands out from yet. We are waiting on core content that should've been in the game on release. It hurts the game in profound way, end of story.

Shakes head in disappointment that you would even consider mining in Dust, its boring enough in space!

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What you said there is pretty much how successful games work, GÇ£tweaking mechanics, nerfing, patching, boosting and patchingGÇ¥. If Dust was released as a full complete title it would get rather boring and we (the players) wouldn't be able to get the game we wanted to play from our input to CCP. I mean; they have been doing the same thing with EVE Online for 10 years! Have faith my son!

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Wilhelm Klingspor well remembered, I did forget to add in the bits about the Scout and Heavy suits! And updated, +1

Wow, this thread exploded overnight.

Next gen consoles will be dominating and more than likely hitting their full stride this time next year with MUCH better f2P MMOs games than Dust,thus why would anyone still be playing this game with a tiny playerbase and missing assets?

Believe it when I hold it.

Still waiting on my Combat Rifle which was supposed to be here months ago, then rumored again this month and now hopefully by December

I feel for the players that want to play the other scout suits or the heavy class that has been stuck with one suit. Poor Vehicle users that dont have proto vehicles.

Again suggesting that proto vehicles wouldn't be a horrible idea that would only serve to make things worse.

So you fix the balance issues between AV and vehicles by allowing a vehicle user to train up for one that can easily resist Proto AV?

At that point, what's the point of even having Proto AV? No one will use any AV or Vehicles that aren't at the highest meta level, so you end up with AV players feeling like they can't do **** to vehicles again.

I'm looking forward to getting my hands on the new vehicle system coming in 1.7. I think this has the potential to allow both AV and Vehicle players to feel useful and have fun.

that screen shot of the new market 2.0 had drones being featured. "new drones!" is what it said i think. maybe we will be getting drones?

moving PC to nullsec, and the warbarge thing sounds like right move for PC having EvE alliance require us for their Sov means plenty of action for everybody

Looks good.

People just to stop being so pessimistic and enjoy what they have already given us for free.

Agreed! Im just glad its CCP behind it rather than some other company.....

Looks good.

People just to stop being so pessimistic and enjoy what they have already given us for free.

Free? No I've paid plenty and always get a little tired of you free loaders from being happy cause you haven't paid anything.
I've paid for this game and have reasonable expectations.

we are still generally cut off from the EVE community such as not even sharing forums

They have said all this before.... LOTS of times, YEARS ago.

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I'm pretty much to the point of "Proof or it isn't happening" as far as Shanghai is concerned. PC team excluded. They've actually been delivering on what they tell us they're working on.

Yeah. Heard that before. In March when DUST "launched" and people were clamoring about well, damn near everything. Heavies were promised we'd have something other than the amarr fatsuit and that it was already being modeled and we'd see them in shortly.

I'm pretty much to the point of "Proof or it isn't happening" as far as Shanghai is concerned. PC team excluded. They've actually been delivering on what they tell us they're working on.

Weren't portable shield bubbles promised "very soon" a couple months ago in a dev blog?

Did they mention it in their talk, or has it disappeared?

I don't think they mentioned it in a dev blog as such, just as something they were looking to implement as per community request.

And no, its wasnt mentioned in the lecture.

So thatGÇÖs what you can expect in the next update, but what about beyond that? There are two equipment items on the top of our list that we want to get in to the game as soon as we can. The first is a Shield Generator. Ever wished for some cover where there isnGÇÖt any? Wish no more, with the shield generator youGÇÖll be able to deploy your own personal static shield bubble. Pretty handy when a ship is dropping bombs on your head from orbit or youGÇÖve been caught in the open by an enemy trying to melt you with a laser rifle.

The second item is a Cloaking Field. This sneaky bit of kit will not only make you (almost) invisible to other combatants, it will also blind turret AI targeting systems. It isnGÇÖt perfect invisibility, scanners will still pick you up if you havenGÇÖt masked your signal well enough, motion will disrupt the field to some extent and weapon fire will cause the field to shut down. This means it will take some skill to use to its maximum potential. This item is going to be a real game changer, particularly for Scout dropsuits which have been screaming out for stealth gear.

I found it in the "Equipment is Your Friend" blog of March 25:

Believe it when I hold it.

Still waiting on my Combat Rifle which was supposed to be here months ago, then rumored again this month and now hopefully by December

I feel for the players that want to play the other scout suits or the heavy class that has been stuck with one suit. Poor Vehicle users that dont have proto vehicles.

Also, I realize this is unrelated, but since this thread talks about EVE Vegas, I'll leave this here:

http://i.imgur.com/NXlkqvG.png

Can we take a moment to appreciate how ******* gorgeous this UI is? If the HUD in Dust was as pretty as this I would cream my pants.

ANY WORD ON MECHS?

I swear CCP said something about mechs... MTACS i think they are called? They said we would get them in 2013!!!