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Lt Royal wrote:

Skihids wrote:

Weren't portable shield bubbles promised "very soon" a couple months ago in a dev blog?

Did they mention it in their talk, or has it disappeared?

I don't think they mentioned it in a dev blog as such, just as something they were looking to implement as per community request.

And no, its wasnt mentioned in the lecture.

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So thatGÇÖs what you can expect in the next update, but what about beyond that? There are two equipment items on the top of our list that we want to get in to the game as soon as we can. The first is a Shield Generator. Ever wished for some cover where there isnGÇÖt any? Wish no more, with the shield generator youGÇÖll be able to deploy your own personal static shield bubble. Pretty handy when a ship is dropping bombs on your head from orbit or youGÇÖve been caught in the open by an enemy trying to melt you with a laser rifle.

The second item is a Cloaking Field. This sneaky bit of kit will not only make you (almost) invisible to other combatants, it will also blind turret AI targeting systems. It isnGÇÖt perfect invisibility, scanners will still pick you up if you havenGÇÖt masked your signal well enough, motion will disrupt the field to some extent and weapon fire will cause the field to shut down. This means it will take some skill to use to its maximum potential. This item is going to be a real game changer, particularly for Scout dropsuits which have been screaming out for stealth gear.

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steadyhand amarr MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 1611	Posted - 2013.10.20 21:56:00 - [61] - Quote moving PC to nullsec, and the warbarge thing sounds like right move for PC having EvE alliance require us for their Sov means plenty of action for everybody
DeathwindRising ROGUE SPADES EoN. 85	Posted - 2013.10.20 22:04:00 - [62] - Quote that screen shot of the new market 2.0 had drones being featured. "new drones!" is what it said i think. maybe we will be getting drones?
GTA-V FTW Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 418	Posted - 2013.10.20 22:08:00 - [63] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Daxxis KANNAH wrote: Believe it when I hold it. Still waiting on my Combat Rifle which was supposed to be here months ago, then rumored again this month and now hopefully by December I feel for the players that want to play the other scout suits or the heavy class that has been stuck with one suit. Poor Vehicle users that dont have proto vehicles. Again suggesting that proto vehicles wouldn't be a horrible idea that would only serve to make things worse. So you fix the balance issues between AV and vehicles by allowing a vehicle user to train up for one that can easily resist Proto AV? At that point, what's the point of even having Proto AV? No one will use any AV or Vehicles that aren't at the highest meta level, so you end up with AV players feeling like they can't do **** to vehicles again. I'm looking forward to getting my hands on the new vehicle system coming in 1.7. I think this has the potential to allow both AV and Vehicle players to feel useful and have fun. LOL its cute that you think 1.7 will have new vehicle system.
Dirks Macker Enlightened Infantries 83	Posted - 2013.10.20 22:40:00 - [64] - Quote The part about having a battle barge piloted by EVE players looks intriguing. I'll believe it when I see it, but if they could pull it off it would add a new profession to the EVE side of things.
Dirks Macker Enlightened Infantries 83	Posted - 2013.10.20 22:42:00 - [65] - Quote DeathwindRising wrote: that screen shot of the new market 2.0 had drones being featured. "new drones!" is what it said i think. maybe we will be getting drones? They mentioned drones in the presentation, could be interesting.
crazy space 1 Unkn0wn Killers 1885	Posted - 2013.10.20 22:45:00 - [66] - Quote If anything I wish tanks and dropsuits worked the same way. Militia Light Frame -no skill needed Basic Light Frame equal to advanced -At least one point in basic light frames Prototype Scout Frame -At least 4 points in basic and 1 point in advanced scout skill I mean one thing I can't understand is why have so many tiers of suits. When the game was in beta each skill gave no bonus per level to suits. Instead the bonus only unlock better suits. I feel like the old system and the new system are at odds with each other from critical perspective. Since suits can get all get better from leveling them to 5, why have bonuses on a prototype suit at all? You can't use it without having 5 skills anyways. Instead unlock the prototype suits at level 1, increase the influence of skill bonuses to a level like in eve online. There is no circumstance you'll have a protosuit and not have the skill at level 5. It removes the point of bonuses per level to only unlock the suit at level 5. Or keep at 3 levels of suit but unlock all 3 at level one and make the isk cost the only difference. Then they can sell those skill clusters as temp ways to raise your skill points. got to make money somewhere.
Dirks Macker Enlightened Infantries 83	Posted - 2013.10.20 22:47:00 - [67] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: moving PC to nullsec, and the warbarge thing sounds like right move for PC having EvE alliance require us for their Sov means plenty of action for everybody I think that would open up hundreds of times the planets to PC as they have now. IMO, the way to go would be to have a raiding system to destroy infrastructure and speed I-Hub/station timers. Fighting in Stations beats Walking in Stations.
Meeko Fent DUST University Ivy League 1230	Posted - 2013.10.20 23:02:00 - [68] - Quote Looks good. People just to stop being so pessimistic and enjoy what they have already given us for free.
Lt Royal Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2036	Posted - 2013.10.21 00:14:00 - [69] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Looks good. People just to stop being so pessimistic and enjoy what they have already given us for free. Agreed! Im just glad its CCP behind it rather than some other company.....
Meeko Fent DUST University Ivy League 1231	Posted - 2013.10.21 00:45:00 - [70] - Quote Lt Royal wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Looks good. People just to stop being so pessimistic and enjoy what they have already given us for free. Agreed! Im just glad its CCP behind it rather than some other company..... cough EA cough But yeah, more differences in things to do, more player interactivity besides "This guy shoots guns like me" would be appreciated along with the new gear.

hgghyujh expert intervention Caldari State 126	Posted - 2013.10.21 00:46:00 - [71] - Quote what I would like to see happen is that PI gets a bonus from dust mercs running PvE against the drones on player owned planets. also that the map setup is based on the PI set up. Also that dust players can free roam and set up their planet for a home field advantage with installations of their choosing.
THE-BEAST Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 95	Posted - 2013.10.21 01:00:00 - [72] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Looks good. People just to stop being so pessimistic and enjoy what they have already given us for free. Free? No I've paid plenty and always get a little tired of you free loaders from being happy cause you haven't paid anything. I've paid for this game and have reasonable expectations.
Meeko Fent DUST University Ivy League 1233	Posted - 2013.10.21 01:05:00 - [73] - Quote THE-BEAST wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Looks good. People just to stop being so pessimistic and enjoy what they have already given us for free. Free? No I've paid plenty and always get a little tired of you free loaders from being happy cause you haven't paid anything. I've paid for this game and have reasonable expectations. You paid cause you wanted to pay. It's entirely a choice to pay, and you made that choice
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1178	Posted - 2013.10.21 01:08:00 - [74] - Quote I have paid $20 and invested countless hours into this game.......I can't wait to see what ccp is going to do :D
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 1268	Posted - 2013.10.21 01:09:00 - [75] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: we are still generally cut off from the EVE community such as not even sharing forums Good, let it stay that way. The EVE forums are special in that the only people who can post are those with subscriptions, the last thing we need are armchair nimrods posting who don't even have a sub, be they dusters or otherwise, on EVE discussions. If we ever share forums, there needs to be a way where Dust Bunnies can only post in the dust sub-forums, and general chat, and Pod Pilots can only post in the eve sub-forums, and general chat, requiring both subbs (free Dustie out of academy and a paid Eve sub) to post everywhere.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 480	Posted - 2013.10.21 02:42:00 - [76] - Quote So I just finished watching pretty much the whole presentation,and I'm more convinced now than ever,Dust 514 will be dead with in 12 months. It was stated and reiterated that they are "laser focused" on developing for PS3.This is pretty much a death sentence for the game. On top of that,these changes regarding Loyalty Points without ever once defining what needed to be fixed with the core mechanics of the gameplay is more evidence to me that they really have no idea how to develop a shooter. One thing I wished from the peanut gallery is that someone would have asked the question of what steps are CCP taking to acquire and bring back more players to the game.All of these so called changes and improvements won't mean squat when the playerbase is topping out at 2,000 players online at any given time.I'm sorry,but if anyone thinks that this game can be a viable entity with this much development,and that few of players,they are fooling themselves. I was a little annoyed with the guys saying that there are 80 million PS3's,as if everyone that has a PS3 is 1)using it's online functionality,and 2) are all playing Dust. This guy is obviously directing damage control more than anything else,but no one with half a brain is being fooled.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 416	Posted - 2013.10.21 03:01:00 - [77] - Quote Its still beyond me that people continue to give CCP a pass with this free notion when they chose the business model and touted that this was AAA level quality. Now what I know is that when you say you can pick your own way to play and we have x races and y classes - I expect the very least of that at launch, not waiting months to hopefully have the opportunity to play that setup in the future.
The Attorney General MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 1277	Posted - 2013.10.21 03:13:00 - [78] - Quote Banning Hammer wrote: They have said all this before.... LOTS of times, YEARS ago. This needs to be repeated to remind people not to get their hopes up, and to expect further delays. Then, when it finally arrives, a year over due, expect it to be buggy as hell. And probably in need of balancing.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 3400	Posted - 2013.10.21 03:26:00 - [79] - Quote "All racial gear to be released soon (not SOONGäó)" They said that at Fanfest 2013, six months ago. So it's more along the lines of Soon TMGäó
Silas Swakhammer GamersForChrist Orion Empire 241	Posted - 2013.10.21 03:44:00 - [80] - Quote Excellent, thanks for the list.

Lt Royal Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2041	Posted - 2013.10.21 04:22:00 - [81] - Quote Phew our BPO's are safe. I updated the OP :)
Talbain Sigmund Deep Black Industries Yulai Federation 15	Posted - 2013.10.21 04:26:00 - [82] - Quote Lt Royal wrote: Heavy suits are currently being modeled as you read. Which is kool but we won't see them for awhile as they will still need to be balanced, which might mean a nerf or a buff for the current Amarr Heavy? Yeah. Heard that before. In March when DUST "launched" and people were clamoring about well, damn near everything. Heavies were promised we'd have something other than the amarr fatsuit and that it was already being modeled and we'd see them in shortly. I'm pretty much to the point of "Proof or it isn't happening" as far as Shanghai is concerned. PC team excluded. They've actually been delivering on what they tell us they're working on.
GTA-V FTW Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 421	Posted - 2013.10.21 11:46:00 - [83] - Quote Talbain Sigmund wrote: [quote=Lt Royal] I'm pretty much to the point of "Proof or it isn't happening" as far as Shanghai is concerned. PC team excluded. They've actually been delivering on what they tell us they're working on. Its a shame that what they have been delivering is garbage due to the fact that the rest of the game is pure crap. PC is lipstick on a pig.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 3417	Posted - 2013.10.21 11:51:00 - [84] - Quote Talbain Sigmund wrote: Lt Royal wrote: Heavy suits are currently being modeled as you read. Which is kool but we won't see them for awhile as they will still need to be balanced, which might mean a nerf or a buff for the current Amarr Heavy? Yeah. Heard that before. In March when DUST "launched" and people were clamoring about well, damn near everything. Heavies were promised we'd have something other than the amarr fatsuit and that it was already being modeled and we'd see them in shortly. I'm pretty much to the point of "Proof or it isn't happening" as far as Shanghai is concerned. PC team excluded. They've actually been delivering on what they tell us they're working on. Even the CPM is saying this.
Lt Royal Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2061	Posted - 2013.10.22 03:50:00 - [85] - Quote Updated OP with images that were posted thanks to Zion Shad from his thread.
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1611	Posted - 2013.10.22 03:58:00 - [86] - Quote Oh noes!! Cloaks!!! Interesting read...excited about what's coming.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3500	Posted - 2013.10.22 04:01:00 - [87] - Quote Wants Amarr scout, also wished CCP would allow me to reallocate my dropsuit skills...
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2304	Posted - 2013.10.22 13:45:00 - [88] - Quote Weren't portable shield bubbles promised "very soon" a couple months ago in a dev blog? Did they mention it in their talk, or has it disappeared?
Lt Royal Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2068	Posted - 2013.10.22 17:49:00 - [89] - Quote Skihids wrote: Weren't portable shield bubbles promised "very soon" a couple months ago in a dev blog? Did they mention it in their talk, or has it disappeared? I don't think they mentioned it in a dev blog as such, just as something they were looking to implement as per community request. And no, its wasnt mentioned in the lecture.
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2307	Posted - 2013.10.22 18:01:00 - [90] - Quote Lt Royal wrote: Skihids wrote: Weren't portable shield bubbles promised "very soon" a couple months ago in a dev blog? Did they mention it in their talk, or has it disappeared? I don't think they mentioned it in a dev blog as such, just as something they were looking to implement as per community request. And no, its wasnt mentioned in the lecture. I found it in the "Equipment is Your Friend" blog of March 25: Quote: So thatGÇÖs what you can expect in the next update, but what about beyond that? There are two equipment items on the top of our list that we want to get in to the game as soon as we can. The first is a Shield Generator. Ever wished for some cover where there isnGÇÖt any? Wish no more, with the shield generator youGÇÖll be able to deploy your own personal static shield bubble. Pretty handy when a ship is dropping bombs on your head from orbit or youGÇÖve been caught in the open by an enemy trying to melt you with a laser rifle. The second item is a Cloaking Field. This sneaky bit of kit will not only make you (almost) invisible to other combatants, it will also blind turret AI targeting systems. It isnGÇÖt perfect invisibility, scanners will still pick you up if you havenGÇÖt masked your signal well enough, motion will disrupt the field to some extent and weapon fire will cause the field to shut down. This means it will take some skill to use to its maximum potential. This item is going to be a real game changer, particularly for Scout dropsuits which have been screaming out for stealth gear. It was mentioned in the same breath as cloaking and actually came first. That was seven months ago. If they've stopped talking about it I can only assume that it's been scrapped or pushed to the back burner.



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