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Mithridates VI Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2309	Posted - 2013.12.23 22:52:00 - [31] - Quote Are Kaimeras entered into the Book of Records? Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
Dagger-Two Gespenster Kompanie 186	Posted - 2013.12.23 23:23:00 - [32] - Quote I wouldn't see why not. They are not considered slaves.
Mistaahh Juvenile Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 24	Posted - 2013.12.24 01:52:00 - [33] - Quote Explain Caldari language to me, please. Since Mist is originally caldari, he should know :/ Ain't nothing I need except stone cold ISK.-Mistaahh Juvenile, neutral mercenary.
Dagger-Two Gespenster Kompanie 186	Posted - 2013.12.24 02:04:00 - [34] - Quote Uhhh...haha, I don't know if I could EXPLAIN Caldanese to you (that IS what it's called, though) All I really know is it's very Asian in nature; Japanese to be specific, which is what i believe Caldari RP-ers use, though it definitely wouldn't be TRUE Japanese, but something descended from it. Very frequently seen, with names like the 'Shigeru' for the Leviathan that was over Caldari Prime, or the Kitsune-class (Kitsune is Fox in Japanese) Electronic Attack frigate. It would also be safe to say, that before the unified Caldari people existed, different languages and dialects existed between the Civire and Deteis as well, especially since both are of European, and not Asian, descent.
Dagger-Two Gespenster Kompanie 186	Posted - 2013.12.24 02:14:00 - [35] - Quote Hey, while on the topic, lets talk about other languages as well. English, as it was the most dominant language before the collapse of EVE, rose again to be the dominant language of New Eden as well, though it's never been explained how or why. Each race has its own 'native' tongues as well, based on their ancestry and pre-collapse affiliations. The Gallenteans speak a language descended from French, though it would be impossible to say the original dialects of the Intaki, Mannar, and Jin-Mei would be. Minmatar and Amarr, we know least about. the Minmatar are so varied in ancestry that as a people they could have used a dozen different languages between tribes, and potentially dozens more dialect variations among those. The Amarr descended from a prolific religious group that was founded out of the old Catholic Church. Again, there is no evidence I've seen to point to what sort of native language the Amarr might have had, or even if they had one other than just English. Being born out of Catholicism though, it would make sense if they spoke any number of latin-based languages, or an amalgam of them. (Italian and Spanish, for example)
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 754	Posted - 2013.12.24 07:34:00 - [36] - Quote Dagger-Two wrote: Uhhh...haha, I don't know if I could EXPLAIN Caldanese to you (that IS what it's called, though) All I really know is it's very Asian in nature; Japanese to be specific, which is what i believe Caldari RP-ers use, though it definitely wouldn't be TRUE Japanese, but something descended from it. Very frequently seen, with names like the 'Shigeru' for the Leviathan that was over Caldari Prime, or the Kitsune-class (Kitsune is Fox in Japanese) Electronic Attack frigate. It would also be safe to say, that before the unified Caldari people existed, different languages and dialects existed between the Civire and Deteis as well, especially since both are of European, and not Asian, descent. There isn't much official canon about the languages used by the Empires much, but I will add that the Caldari language is not based on Japanese only, it also has influence from the Finnish language(their names and culture also base on Finland a little). There is also a player created language called Napanii, which acts as the prime language used within the Caldari State. And in general, all the Empires would have a variety of different languages they speak, but use one singular as the 'official language' so to speak. Dagger Two wrote: Hey, while on the topic, lets talk about other languages as well. English, as it was the most dominant language before the collapse of EVE, rose again to be the dominant language of New Eden as well, though it's never been explained how or why. Each race has its own 'native' tongues as well, based on their ancestry and pre-collapse affiliations. It was my understanding that English didn't exist in the New Eden universe(my lore contacts also are saying this), as nearly all inter-Empire communications are done with the use of translator modules. Can you point me somewhere saying otherwise? Dagger Two wrote: The Gallenteans speak a language descended from French, though it would be impossible to say the original dialects of the Intaki, Mannar, and Jin-Mei would be. The main Gallente language is based off of French, yes. As for Jin-Mei and Intaki, both are asian based races. Intaki speak a mixture of Indian languages, which also exists as a player created language, dubbed just Intaki. As for Jin-Mei, I've always thought that their language was based on Chinese or some other Middle-Asian language. Dagger Two wrote: Minmatar and Amarr, we know least about. the Minmatar are so varied in ancestry that as a people they could have used a dozen different languages between tribes, and potentially dozens more dialect variations among those. There was some speculation about the languages of Matari recently, and the general consensus was that their languages were based on a mix of Scandinavian(excluding Finland) and Middle-Eastern languages. That's as far as I can speculate about them. DaggerTwo wrote: The Amarr descended from a prolific religious group that was founded out of the old Catholic Church. Again, there is no evidence I've seen to point to what sort of native language the Amarr might have had, or even if they had one other than just English. Being born out of Catholicism though, it would make sense if they spoke any number of latin-based languages, or an amalgam of them. (Italian and Spanish, for example) I should note, that this is definitely one topic I am not too familiar with. If anyone else has more info, please share. Generally, all the languages of New Eden aren't direct copies of their real life counterparts, so I suspect that the Amarr have mostly latin-based languages, like Spanish or just straight out Latin. Language in New Eden is mostly based on player speculation and the few hints given by the snippets of languages and the tons of names all the Empires have. The Backstage is generally good for all kinds of lore discussion. Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Dec. 13th
Dagger-Two Gespenster Kompanie 187	Posted - 2013.12.24 16:12:00 - [37] - Quote My thought on the English thing is that, while that Chronicle definitely points against it, it is also very old. We've seen as EVE has evolved, the english language spoken in stories, trailers, movies, etc by characters in New Eden. Yes, you could easily chalk it up to accessibility for players, but there arr instances of it being used alongside native langiages as well. This combined with people of different backgrounds commonly talking freely with one another, without the aid of translators, infiction makes me feel that thw original take on lanfuages has been recanted somewhat. I should definitely not have made the section about english in new eden sound so definitive, since its just speculation on my part. Appologies fot that.
Mistaahh Juvenile Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 24	Posted - 2013.12.24 17:42:00 - [38] - Quote Like, I see @galm fae being called Fae-haan etc. What does that mean, etc? Ain't nothing I need except stone cold ISK.-Mistaahh Juvenile, neutral mercenary.
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 755	Posted - 2013.12.24 18:23:00 - [39] - Quote Mistaahh Juvenile wrote: Like, I see @galm fae being called Fae-haan etc. What does that mean, etc? Again, it's part of the player created language Napanii, it will tell more about the language and how it works, and is often used by Caldari roleplayers. But to answer the question about your example, -haan and -haani suffixes work kind of the same way as when in Japanese you sometimes put -san after addressing a person by name. In short, -haan and -haani suffixes translate to comrade, so when somebody says Fae-haan, they mean Comrade Fae. -haan is used for males, and -haani for females. There's also a few other suffixes that have different meanings, like -guri, which would stand for criminal. But just to have a more Caldari-ish vibe to your language, just learning -haan and -haani is good enough. Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Dec. 13th
Maximia Beflas Derringer Defenses 11	Posted - 2013.12.24 20:53:00 - [40] - Quote Dagger-Two wrote: Uhhh...haha, I don't know if I could EXPLAIN Caldanese to you (that IS what it's called, though) All I really know is it's very Asian in nature; Japanese to be specific, which is what i believe Caldari RP-ers use, though it definitely wouldn't be TRUE Japanese, but something descended from it. Very frequently seen, with names like the 'Shigeru' for the Leviathan that was over Caldari Prime, or the Kitsune-class (Kitsune is Fox in Japanese) Electronic Attack frigate. It would also be safe to say, that before the unified Caldari people existed, different languages and dialects existed between the Civire and Deteis as well, especially since both are of European, and not Asian, descent. I heard that Caldari have a mixture of Finnish along with some mandarin/Cantonese somewhere. I also heard that Minmatar is really Creole with other mixed languages.

Mithridates VI Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2330	Posted - 2013.12.26 04:56:00 - [41] - Quote What do you know about merc anatomy? What flows through merc veins? Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5278	Posted - 2013.12.27 05:51:00 - [42] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: What do you know about merc anatomy? What flows through merc veins? We still have blood though how that blood is composed or if it is different we do not know as far as I am aware. Though its odd that the Blood Raiders would consider cloned blood to be more pure and special than normal blood....which begs the question what is merc blood made of? In terms of merc anatomy I will let Dagger field that one though I do remember seeing something some time ago about mercs with multiple organs, hearts, spines, etc. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 168	Posted - 2013.12.27 06:01:00 - [43] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: What do you know about merc anatomy? What flows through merc veins? We still have blood though how that blood is composed or if it is different we do not know as far as I am aware. Though its odd that the Blood Raiders would consider cloned blood to be more pure and special than normal blood....which begs the question what is merc blood made of? In terms of merc anatomy I will let Dagger field that one though I do remember seeing something some time ago about mercs with multiple organs, hearts, spines, etc. It's heavily simplified on combat clones. You gonna die in five minutes? Then you don't need a ***. I think the stories about mercs having several extra organs is just rumors spread by baseliners, but I do know that our blood is vastly different. We pump synthetic glosmer blood through our veins engineers to carry nanites. In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then I also love him.**
Dagger-Two Gespenster Kompanie 189	Posted - 2013.12.27 22:06:00 - [44] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: What do you know about merc anatomy? What flows through merc veins? The mercenary clones themselves have been a point of contention for me, personally. Some say they are 7-8 foot tall supermen, others say they are merely very powerfully built men of average human stature. Since the bodies are grown, they can be augmented during the growing process, but at the same time the augmentations would have to make sense and be affordable. Increasing muscle density, red blood cell count, lung capacity are all viable and relatively simple feats of clone engineering. Things like adding extra organs and whatnot makes little sense, as the clones are meant to perform, not survive. There is basically zero lore to back any of these claims up, one way or another. (If you find any, I would LOVE to see it!). I merely try and go off the most logical assumptions. Mercenaries in DUST are not like the Space Marines of the 40k universe, they are not meant to be unstoppable gods of the battlefield ( it would be silly to think the empires would create soldiers so unstoppable that ordinary well-equipped soliders could not deal with them if they had to). But again, that's just me, and don't get me started on the topic of weapons and gear Back to the mercs, you've basically got a human body, tuned to perfection during growth. In addition to their genetic modifications, they are said to have chemically enhanced blood, better at things like oxygen uptake and clotting. Also, medical nanites are present in the bloodstream to rapidly heal injury (to a degree) and reduce pain. This was all talked about in the Templar-One novel. You have to consider, though, that this was the very first group of clone soldiers, and before they became a mass produced commodity. It's impossible to say whether the 3rd generation of mercenaries still have things like nanite-laced blood. Playing since 1st batch of closed beta keys.
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 765	Posted - 2013.12.27 22:47:00 - [45] - Quote Yeah, mercenary anatomy is a very shady subject with barely any information about it. But just as a curious question, have Officer weapons(Specifically Balac's, Cala's, Krin's and Gastun's) always existed in DUST, or were they added at a later point? Knowing this could probably give some pointers on when the events described in the Stranded chronicles happened, and maybe even a few hints on if we still hold this tech. They couldn't have happened too long ago, the setting described in part 1 don't seem too old. That said, I really want to see the series continued, maybe even converted into a full novel. I'd really love that. But back on topic, I'm not too sure about clone soldiers having cybernetic augmentations too much or too many "cut corners". With the whole case of the Jovian disease, which was a result of tampering genetics way too much, I'd assume that the Empires would be cautious about such things. So no, I don't think they'd remove our digestive system or anything like that. However, in my mind it would make sense that some bodily processes have been made more, straightforward. For instance, instead of feeding you food, it gets directly injected into your bloodstream, minimizing the need for waste removal. But again, this is pretty much pure educated guessing, and the only hints I have are the Stranded chronicles. Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Dec. 27th
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 168	Posted - 2013.12.27 22:53:00 - [46] - Quote 1) I have no doubt in my mind that we still have nanite-laced blood. That's the whole point of nanite injectors. Capsuleers have a similar system but it is applied differently. Nanite laced blood is one of the main reasons why immortals can drink Quafe Zero but baseliners can't. Our issue is that the nanites in our blood is finite. As they change structure to form new protein, skin, or bone cells they are gradually used up. Nanite injectors deliver a new dose of these machines that bonds to your blood for use later. 2) If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times. It is indisputable that mercenaries are at least slightly genetically modified and anyone who says otherwise is just trying to fill their own headcanon. Sorry if I am a bit of a jerk about this, but it is one of the major defining traits of us as mercenaries. If you need any proof, look at any gameplay from the DUST 514 recruitment center on Playstation Home. If you talk to the bartender she will tell you all about the soldiers from the perspective of a baseliner. I can't remember the exact wording, but it goes something along the lines of "Have you ever seen one of those immortal soldier before? Seven feet tall... Encased in armor..." Once you complete a series of challenges you will be rewarded with a dropsuit (implied combat clone) that will noticeably make you significantly taller than you were before. If that doesn't sell you, consider size comparisons relative to objects in maps in DUST. We use shotguns the size of car doors and stand up to half the height of a drop ship... Consider how tall a normal person would have to be to stand eye level with an F22. Honestly, if you are thinking of reasons to deny that we are massively tall based on "well we would be a bigger target" then I'm sorry but you've totally fallen into a confirmation bias. *In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then I also love him.*
Dagger-Two Gespenster Kompanie 189	Posted - 2013.12.27 23:59:00 - [47] - Quote I entirely agreed that the mercs are genetically modified. I even said so plainly. There is a complete lack of evidence for claims either way, which is what I'm saying. You say 'shotgun the size of a car door', but there is no point of reference. Where have you seen a shotgun placed next to a car door for comparison? Stand up to half the size of a dropship: Well, an average person easily stands half the height of a UH-60 Blackhawk if you don't count the rotor, or even an F22 if you don't measure to the height of the vertical stabilizers. Why does the existence of the nanite injector mean we HAVE to have nanite laced blood? Medical nanites can be injected into anyone to help restore body function and repair wounds. You can't just ignore the reasons I posted because you have a hardline view in the other direction. You just come off as wanting to fill your own 'headcannon' with spartan-style supersoldiers, as much as some may want the opposite. I am saying the truth likely resides in the middle. Playing since 1st batch of closed beta keys.
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 168	Posted - 2013.12.28 02:39:00 - [48] - Quote Dagger-Two wrote: Why does the existence of the nanite injector mean we HAVE to have nanite laced blood? Medical nanites can be injected into anyone to help restore body function and repair wounds. You can't just ignore the reasons I posted because you have a hardline view in the other direction. You just come off as wanting to fill your own 'headcannon' with spartan-style supersoldiers, as much as some may want the opposite. I am saying the truth likely resides in the middle. Did you even read Templar One? At all? The blood cells are modified to carry nanites, your average person can't carry the tech we have for reasons that are never really specified. You completely ignored my point that: Quote: Nanite laced blood is one of the main reasons why immortals can drink Quafe Zero but baseliners can't. Our issue is that the nanites in our blood is finite. As they change structure to form new protein, skin, or bone cells they are gradually used up. Nanite injectors deliver a new dose of these machines that bonds to your blood for use later. Additionally, you ATTEMPTED to argue against my thoughts on the size of a shotgun without even putting in what I would assume to be a minimum level of thought. Look at a Saga. Look at your gun. Big huh? Consider the side rails in station facilities. When you couch behind them, assuming they are meant to come up to the average waist of a human, we should be completely concealed. However time and time again I've found that even when crouching I am still too large of a target to hide behind them. There's still a host of whole other factors that you didn't even touch base on because YOU COULDN'T. You say there is no evidence AFTER I PRESENTED EVIDENCE. All you're doing is fighting tooth an nail against an idea just because you don't like it. Stop being a child. *In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then I also love him.*
Dagger-Two Gespenster Kompanie 189	Posted - 2013.12.28 02:47:00 - [49] - Quote You dont understand that you are presenting 0 evidence, only your own speculation. Playing since 1st batch of closed beta keys.
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 168	Posted - 2013.12.28 02:50:00 - [50] - Quote Dagger-Two wrote: You dont understand that you are presenting 0 evidence, only your own speculation. ... Okay, really, does anyone else BUT THIS GUY think I didn't present any evidence. Size comparisons on map designs, the recruitment center on playstation home, I'm throwing all of this out there. You are literally the only one that has a problem understanding this. Maybe your implants are faulty soldier. *In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then I also love him.*

True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5284	Posted - 2013.12.28 02:58:00 - [51] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: Dagger-Two wrote: You dont understand that you are presenting 0 evidence, only your own speculation. ... Okay, really, does anyone else BUT THIS GUY think I didn't present any evidence. Size comparisons on map designs, the recruitment center on playstation home, I'm throwing all of this out there. You are literally the only one that has a problem understanding this. Maybe your implants are faulty soldier. I can confirm the 7m tall thing, seen it their myself but then again we cannot really cite Playstation Home as Canon.... can we? To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
Dagger-Two Gespenster Kompanie 189	Posted - 2013.12.28 03:03:00 - [52] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: Dagger-Two wrote: You dont understand that you are presenting 0 evidence, only your own speculation. ... Okay, really, does anyone else BUT THIS GUY think I didn't present any evidence. Size comparisons on map designs, the recruitment center on playstation home, I'm throwing all of this out there. You are literally the only one that has a problem understanding this. Maybe your implants are faulty soldier. Your entire argument is based on assumptions, which I have tried to avoid in my answer to original questions, or preface by mentioning that it IS speculation and there is no evidence. You on the other hand have repeatedly argued against what I wrote with assumptions you treat as fact, topped with insults, making yourself seem like a damn child. Do you even know what I was saying in my original answer? Did you read what I wrote before you started posting. It reallyseems like you did not. Playing since 1st batch of closed beta keys.
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 168	Posted - 2013.12.28 03:12:00 - [53] - Quote Dagger-Two wrote: Galm Fae wrote: Dagger-Two wrote: You dont understand that you are presenting 0 evidence, only your own speculation. ... Okay, really, does anyone else BUT THIS GUY think I didn't present any evidence. Size comparisons on map designs, the recruitment center on playstation home, I'm throwing all of this out there. You are literally the only one that has a problem understanding this. Maybe your implants are faulty soldier. Your entire argument is based on assumptions, which I have tried to avoid in my answer to original questions, or preface by mentioning that it IS speculation and there is no evidence. You on the other hand have repeatedly argued against what I wrote with assumptions you treat as fact, topped with insults, making yourself seem like a damn child. Do you even know what I was saying in my original answer? Did you read what I wrote before you started posting. It reallyseems like you did not. Yeah, I read it. You ask (said you would LOVE IT) if anyone came forward with evidence to support one side or the other. I come forward with a good benchmark for scaling (which isn't an assumption, because it is based on in-game sizing which is already more than whatever garbage you are trying to support) and you immediately rejected it because it doesn't agree with you. If your own ignorance was all that was at stake that would be fine but when you make a thread claiming to be helping people understand lore then you are being detrimental to the entire community. Stupidity is dangerous, so I don't tolerate it. And Adamance, it was all made by CCP so I am willing to bet the evidence in it isn't just some mistake thrown in by a third party. *In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then I also love him.*
Dagger-Two Gespenster Kompanie 189	Posted - 2013.12.28 03:17:00 - [54] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Galm Fae wrote: Dagger-Two wrote: You dont understand that you are presenting 0 evidence, only your own speculation. ... Okay, really, does anyone else BUT THIS GUY think I didn't present any evidence. Size comparisons on map designs, the recruitment center on playstation home, I'm throwing all of this out there. You are literally the only one that has a problem understanding this. Maybe your implants are faulty soldier. I can confirm the 7m tall thing, seen it their myself but then again we cannot really cite Playstation Home as Canon.... can we? 7ft you mean? If you can confirm it to be true, then thats great. I will take that to heart Playing since 1st batch of closed beta keys.
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5286	Posted - 2013.12.28 03:19:00 - [55] - Quote Dagger-Two wrote: True Adamance wrote: Galm Fae wrote: Dagger-Two wrote: You dont understand that you are presenting 0 evidence, only your own speculation. ... Okay, really, does anyone else BUT THIS GUY think I didn't present any evidence. Size comparisons on map designs, the recruitment center on playstation home, I'm throwing all of this out there. You are literally the only one that has a problem understanding this. Maybe your implants are faulty soldier. I can confirm the 7m tall thing, seen it their myself but then again we cannot really cite Playstation Home as Canon.... can we? 7ft you mean? If you can confirm it to be true, then thats great. I will take that to heart 7 ft sorry. Yeah PS Home does state that we are close to that size, it has a good bit of information that I will try to trawl through in a bit, and if anyone wants to hit me up for some Slay by all means let me know. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 168	Posted - 2013.12.28 03:19:00 - [56] - Quote Dagger-Two wrote: True Adamance wrote: Galm Fae wrote: Dagger-Two wrote: You dont understand that you are presenting 0 evidence, only your own speculation. ... Okay, really, does anyone else BUT THIS GUY think I didn't present any evidence. Size comparisons on map designs, the recruitment center on playstation home, I'm throwing all of this out there. You are literally the only one that has a problem understanding this. Maybe your implants are faulty soldier. I can confirm the 7m tall thing, seen it their myself but then again we cannot really cite Playstation Home as Canon.... can we? 7ft you mean? If you can confirm it to be true, then thats great. I will take that to heart I... Okay. I'm happy. Then we agree on something. Maybe we should just leave it there. *In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then I also love him.*
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 168	Posted - 2013.12.28 03:20:00 - [57] - Quote Oh god, Slayer. Probably the biggest griefer I've ever played. *In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then I also love him.*
Dagger-Two Gespenster Kompanie 189	Posted - 2013.12.28 03:37:00 - [58] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: Dagger-Two wrote: Galm Fae wrote: Dagger-Two wrote: You dont understand that you are presenting 0 evidence, only your own speculation. ... Okay, really, does anyone else BUT THIS GUY think I didn't present any evidence. Size comparisons on map designs, the recruitment center on playstation home, I'm throwing all of this out there. You are literally the only one that has a problem understanding this. Maybe your implants are faulty soldier. Your entire argument is based on assumptions, which I have tried to avoid in my answer to original questions, or preface by mentioning that it IS speculation and there is no evidence. You on the other hand have repeatedly argued against what I wrote with assumptions you treat as fact, topped with insults, making yourself seem like a damn child. Do you even know what I was saying in my original answer? Did you read what I wrote before you started posting. It reallyseems like you did not. Yeah, I read it. You ask (said you would LOVE IT) if anyone came forward with evidence to support one side or the other. I come forward with a good benchmark for scaling (which isn't an assumption, because it is based on in-game sizing which is already more than whatever garbage you are trying to support) and you immediately rejected it because it doesn't agree with you. If your own ignorance was all that was at stake that would be fine but when you make a thread claiming to be helping people understand lore then you are being detrimental to the entire community. Stupidity is dangerous, so I don't tolerate it. And Adamance, it was all made by CCP so I am willing to bet the evidence in it isn't just some mistake thrown in by a third party. (On a keyboard now, proper response time:) Galm you are a damn fool and a man-child. I said I would love it if anyone came forward with EVIDENCE to EITHER point. You presented no evidence, just rambled on about your speculations from your high horse. You act as if I was trying to force a single viewpoint on people, when in reality I didn't even mention what my own personal opinion was. You fought me on an issue that never even existed to the detriment of this thread for your own damn reasons. If you truly, TRULY read my original post, you would see I was not trying to openly support any viewpoint other than what has been shown to be true in canon. Speculation is not canon, assumption is not canon. I can't believe that you would come here and say 'look at all these things that may or may not be true or accurate' and say that it is 'evidence' you are presenting me with. Stupidity IS dangerous, and I also don't tolerate it. Please leave this thread Playing since 1st batch of closed beta keys.
Galm Fae Eskola Ergonomics 168	Posted - 2013.12.28 03:42:00 - [59] - Quote Hehe. You're funny. In fact, you know what? No. I'm going to haunt this thread. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, spoooooky~ *In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then I also love him.*
Dagger-Two Gespenster Kompanie 189	Posted - 2013.12.28 03:44:00 - [60] - Quote Galm Fae wrote: Hehe. You're funny. In fact, you know what? No. I'm going to haunt this thread. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, spoooooky~ Translation: Dagger is right, he really DIDN'T try and push one viewpoint on anyone. Silly me. But I can't appologize, that would make me look weak on the internet. Instead I'll troll his thread! Genius! Playing since 1st batch of closed beta keys.



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