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Galm Fae
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Posted - 2013.12.27 06:01:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Mithridates VI wrote:What do you know about merc anatomy? What flows through merc veins? We still have blood though how that blood is composed or if it is different we do not know as far as I am aware. Though its odd that the Blood Raiders would consider cloned blood to be more pure and special than normal blood....which begs the question what is merc blood made of? In terms of merc anatomy I will let Dagger field that one though I do remember seeing something some time ago about mercs with multiple organs, hearts, spines, etc.
It's heavily simplified on combat clones. You gonna die in five minutes? Then you don't need a *****. I think the stories about mercs having several extra organs is just rumors spread by baseliners, but I do know that our blood is vastly different. We pump synthetic glosmer blood through our veins engineers to carry nanites.
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Galm Fae
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Posted - 2013.12.27 22:53:00 -
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1) I have no doubt in my mind that we still have nanite-laced blood. That's the whole point of nanite injectors. Capsuleers have a similar system but it is applied differently. Nanite laced blood is one of the main reasons why immortals can drink Quafe Zero but baseliners can't. Our issue is that the nanites in our blood is finite. As they change structure to form new protein, skin, or bone cells they are gradually used up. Nanite injectors deliver a new dose of these machines that bonds to your blood for use later.
2) If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times. It is indisputable that mercenaries are at least slightly genetically modified and anyone who says otherwise is just trying to fill their own headcanon. Sorry if I am a bit of a jerk about this, but it is one of the major defining traits of us as mercenaries.
If you need any proof, look at any gameplay from the DUST 514 recruitment center on Playstation Home. If you talk to the bartender she will tell you all about the soldiers from the perspective of a baseliner. I can't remember the exact wording, but it goes something along the lines of "Have you ever seen one of those immortal soldier before? Seven feet tall... Encased in armor..."
Once you complete a series of challenges you will be rewarded with a dropsuit (implied combat clone) that will noticeably make you significantly taller than you were before.
If that doesn't sell you, consider size comparisons relative to objects in maps in DUST. We use shotguns the size of car doors and stand up to half the height of a drop ship... Consider how tall a normal person would have to be to stand eye level with an F22. Honestly, if you are thinking of reasons to deny that we are massively tall based on "well we would be a bigger target" then I'm sorry but you've totally fallen into a confirmation bias.
In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then I also love him.
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Galm Fae
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Posted - 2013.12.28 02:39:00 -
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Dagger-Two wrote:
Why does the existence of the nanite injector mean we HAVE to have nanite laced blood? Medical nanites can be injected into anyone to help restore body function and repair wounds.
You can't just ignore the reasons I posted because you have a hardline view in the other direction. You just come off as wanting to fill your own 'headcannon' with spartan-style supersoldiers, as much as some may want the opposite.
I am saying the truth likely resides in the middle.
Did you even read Templar One? At all? The blood cells are modified to carry nanites, your average person can't carry the tech we have for reasons that are never really specified. You completely ignored my point that:
Quote:Nanite laced blood is one of the main reasons why immortals can drink Quafe Zero but baseliners can't. Our issue is that the nanites in our blood is finite. As they change structure to form new protein, skin, or bone cells they are gradually used up. Nanite injectors deliver a new dose of these machines that bonds to your blood for use later.
Additionally, you ATTEMPTED to argue against my thoughts on the size of a shotgun without even putting in what I would assume to be a minimum level of thought. Look at a Saga. Look at your gun. Big huh? Consider the side rails in station facilities. When you couch behind them, assuming they are meant to come up to the average waist of a human, we should be completely concealed. However time and time again I've found that even when crouching I am still too large of a target to hide behind them.
There's still a host of whole other factors that you didn't even touch base on because YOU COULDN'T. You say there is no evidence AFTER I PRESENTED EVIDENCE. All you're doing is fighting tooth an nail against an idea just because you don't like it.
Stop being a child.
In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then I also love him.
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Galm Fae
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Posted - 2013.12.28 02:50:00 -
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Dagger-Two wrote:You dont understand that you are presenting 0 evidence, only your own speculation.
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Okay, really, does anyone else BUT THIS GUY think I didn't present any evidence. Size comparisons on map designs, the recruitment center on playstation home, I'm throwing all of this out there. You are literally the only one that has a problem understanding this.
Maybe your implants are faulty soldier.
In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then I also love him.
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Galm Fae
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Posted - 2013.12.28 03:12:00 -
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Dagger-Two wrote:Galm Fae wrote:Dagger-Two wrote:You dont understand that you are presenting 0 evidence, only your own speculation. ... Okay, really, does anyone else BUT THIS GUY think I didn't present any evidence. Size comparisons on map designs, the recruitment center on playstation home, I'm throwing all of this out there. You are literally the only one that has a problem understanding this. Maybe your implants are faulty soldier. Your entire argument is based on assumptions, which I have tried to avoid in my answer to original questions, or preface by mentioning that it IS speculation and there is no evidence. You on the other hand have repeatedly argued against what I wrote with assumptions you treat as fact, topped with insults, making yourself seem like a damn child. Do you even know what I was saying in my original answer? Did you read what I wrote before you started posting. It reallyseems like you did not.
Yeah, I read it. You ask (said you would LOVE IT) if anyone came forward with evidence to support one side or the other. I come forward with a good benchmark for scaling (which isn't an assumption, because it is based on in-game sizing which is already more than whatever garbage you are trying to support) and you immediately rejected it because it doesn't agree with you. If your own ignorance was all that was at stake that would be fine but when you make a thread claiming to be helping people understand lore then you are being detrimental to the entire community.
Stupidity is dangerous, so I don't tolerate it.
And Adamance, it was all made by CCP so I am willing to bet the evidence in it isn't just some mistake thrown in by a third party.
In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then I also love him.
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Galm Fae
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Posted - 2013.12.28 03:19:00 -
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Dagger-Two wrote:True Adamance wrote:Galm Fae wrote:Dagger-Two wrote:You dont understand that you are presenting 0 evidence, only your own speculation. ... Okay, really, does anyone else BUT THIS GUY think I didn't present any evidence. Size comparisons on map designs, the recruitment center on playstation home, I'm throwing all of this out there. You are literally the only one that has a problem understanding this. Maybe your implants are faulty soldier. I can confirm the 7m tall thing, seen it their myself but then again we cannot really cite Playstation Home as Canon.... can we? 7ft you mean?  If you can confirm it to be true, then thats great. I will take that to heart
I...
Okay. I'm happy. Then we agree on something. Maybe we should just leave it there.
In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then I also love him.
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Galm Fae
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Posted - 2013.12.28 03:20:00 -
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Oh god, Slayer. Probably the biggest griefer I've ever played.
In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then I also love him.
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Galm Fae
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Posted - 2013.12.28 03:42:00 -
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Hehe. You're funny.
In fact, you know what? No. I'm going to haunt this thread.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, spoooooky~
In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then I also love him.
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Galm Fae
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Posted - 2013.12.28 03:47:00 -
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No, it was a "you've gone full batttits crazy now that someone has a viewpoint that proves you wrong, and the more angry you get the worse you look" type of thing really. Honestly, the insults I throw out are standard operation procedure when I talk to people. You however, you seem genuinely upset and frankly I find it hilarious that you think you can command me out of a thread in fear of making you look like a bigger joke.
Thankfully though you don't need me to look like a joke.
In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then I also love him.
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Galm Fae
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Posted - 2013.12.28 03:56:00 -
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You yourself admitted that what I was talking about was confirmed after Adamance threw in his .02 ISK! Dude, you're just getting more and more entrenched downwards in your own ideas that it doesn't take that much to stand above you at this point.
In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then I also love him.
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Galm Fae
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Posted - 2013.12.28 04:09:00 -
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Dagger-Two wrote:You can't even answer my question at this point because you yourself have no idea what you were arguing.
If Adamance says he has definitive proof of the height of the mercs, then that's great. I'll take it to heart.
But when did I ever say in my post that they were not? When did I state a definitive statement about that or anything else I discussed.
Do you not even understand that I was never arguing about whether or not they were 7 feet tall, but I was arguing the fact that you kept presenting speculations and not real, canonical proof?
Do you even understand the nature of the argument you were JUST involved in?
I'm calling your bull on this one. You said (maybe not verbatim, but you made your believes blatantly obvious) in pervious posts that you don't wish to think of mercenaries as anything more than your standard body type. You laid out reasons why you felt that they wouldn't be as tall as they are, which were all based from pulling at straws for what MIGHT be a practical answers while ignoring the facts of canon lore.
And now that I've prove you wrong you are attempting to save yourself by arguing "I never directly said one thing or the other."
That's passive-aggressive hogwash and earns no respect in my eyes.
In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then I also love him.
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Galm Fae
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Posted - 2013.12.28 04:47:00 -
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Dagger-Two wrote:What I may have said in another thread has nothing to do with what was said in this thread, ESPECIALLY since what was said here was vastly different from what I said previously.
I don't need to 'save' myself from anything. I admitted I had biases, but produced an un-biased answer to a question. Who is to say I have not changed my opinions on certain things since my previous posts?
Thank you for proving that your entire tirade here has stemmed from a completely different topic, making this whole argument of yours here completely illegitimate.
I asked for proof, you presented none, argument ensued, but where I have stood firm defending what I wrote, you now have to scrap at other threads, things i may have said in the past, to try and make this imaginary argument of yours against me seem worthwhile.
I have some biases, some ways I would prefer to see the DUST canon be, but if it is not, I can't argue that. Show me proof of something being canon, and I will immediately accept it. Anyone can make, and is entitled to, speculations where canon is absent.
You are looking more and more silly by the minute sir.
/emote crosses arms and eyes you with a cross of frustration and skepticism
That. That right there. You're dealing with maybes and anecdotal statements to cover your own rear. That passive aggressive, underhanded tactic of "oh, I said that before so it's not relevant"...
That's stupid. Stop that.
/emote boops you on the nose
But in the greater interest of my own time I think we have both said more than enough for anyone else reading this tantrum to divulge their own opinions.
And by the by, feigning intelligence by using words like "tirade" doesn't really seem as alpha as you think it does.
In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then I also love him.
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Galm Fae
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Posted - 2013.12.28 07:42:00 -
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Dagger-Two wrote:Denak Kalamari wrote:Can you both just stop it? You're both equally big idiots continuing this pointless argument. You're both right. Sorry that got so out of hand.
Consider the following: Being an ass doesn't make me any less right.
However if it truly is an issue to you then I'll get over it.
In the moment when I truly understand my enemy, understand him well enough to defeat him, then I also love him.
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