I bet 10 mill that AR threads will become redundant and that the player, instead of bumping or commenting on another thread, will make a AR thread for the 100th time.

Take your butt whoopings like a man...or at least try to.

I'll be thinking my minmatar scout would drop like a fly when there an assault scrambler rifle start shooting at me, but no i can out run it optical range or drive through it bullets. The AR for some reason is killing from 70m away, there is no way i can outrun that even with two complex kinetic catalyze.

Not trying to be a QQ( even though a lot of people know that the AR optical range is too far for blaster tech)


And here come the AR users

BET THEY WILL BE SAYING " NO THE AR IS NOT OP YOU JUST SUCK"

Bet 10 mill their will be one

I'll be thinking my minmatar scout would drop like a fly when there an assault scrambler rifle start shooting at me, but no i can out run it optical range or drive through it bullets. The AR for some reason is killing from 70m away, there is no way i can outrun that even with two complex kinetic catalyze.

Not trying to be a QQ( even though a lot of people know that the AR optical range is too far for blaster tech)


And here come the AR users

BET THEY WILL BE SAYING " NO THE AR IS NOT OP YOU JUST SUCK"

Bet 10 mill their will be one

AR guys have AA with no recoil so we shoot accurately
A lot, and I mean tons, of Ar guys just fire from the hip. Why use a normal scrambler rifle or the sniper rifle?

AA with 3sec ttk crutchmode

Fixed it

AA with 3sec ttk crutchmode

AScrambler has a kick, so he cant shoot correctly the whole time and he also has overheat. You probably ran away whil he was trying not to overheat or the kick messed his aim up. With AR there are no limiting factors except for ammo. The AR doesnt have noticable kick or a overheat function

Most AR guys also use their sights so we shoot accurately
A lot, and I mean tons, of guys who use other weapons just fire from the hip unless they are using the normal scrambler rifle or the sniper rifle

It's because the ASCR still has dispersion when ADS... whereas the AR does not seem to have any.

With how little health you have, and the AR's ability to do a million damage in .02 seconds...they just have to ADS, sweep back and forth, and make sure the sights are aimed at you long enough to get some hits in.

Also, the AR fires faster than the ASCR, so it's more along the lines of a stream of bullets (similar to a laser) that ends up hitting you. Dodging an ASCR is easier because there's actually space between the shots.

The AR will and always will be an automatic sniper rifle in this game until they add some dispersion when ADS. I will never understand why it's like that (every other game balances the ARs with dispersion at range).

Herp derp da AA dat applies to all guns only make da AR OP gais

Idiot

3 seconds is such a mind bogglingly long TTK that if it take you 3 seconds to get behind cover or start dodging you need to consider other games. Most FPSs have a 0.1-1s TTK. Human reaction times are measured in fractions of a second.

I'll be thinking my minmatar scout would drop like a fly when there an assault scrambler rifle start shooting at me, but no i can out run it optical range or drive through it bullets. The AR for some reason is killing from 70m away, there is no way i can outrun that even with two complex kinetic catalyze.

Not trying to be a QQ( even though a lot of people know that the AR optical range is too far for blaster tech)


And here come the AR users

BET THEY WILL BE SAYING " NO THE AR IS NOT OP YOU JUST SUCK"

Bet 10 mill their will be one

Honestly, it's because so many people use AR. You're more likely to be killed by it simply because it doesn't suck and the majority of the player base uses it. And a huge percentage of the top players use it simply because they can port their shooter skills from other games into DUST more easily through the weapon. (Handles the same as in any other shooter.)

I'm very rarely on the shooting end of an AR, and I think it's probably fine.

I'll be thinking my minmatar scout would drop like a fly when there an assault scrambler rifle start shooting at me, but no i can out run it optical range or drive through it bullets. The AR for some reason is killing from 70m away, there is no way i can outrun that even with two complex kinetic catalyze.

Not trying to be a QQ( even though a lot of people know that the AR optical range is too far for blaster tech)


And here come the AR users

BET THEY WILL BE SAYING " NO THE AR IS NOT OP YOU JUST SUCK"

Bet 10 mill their will be one

This is because his figure is BS. A GEK/Duvolle with Proficiency 5 and a single Complex Damage Mod has a TTK of 1 second against the average STD/ADV suit with 500-600 HP. Against Proto suits with 800-900 HP, you're looking at 1.5 seconds. Other weapons, such as the Mass Driver and Laser Rifle, do indeed have 3-4 second TTKs against similar suits. Of course, the Laser heats up and has a bit of a range advantage while the MD is more of an area denial weapon that's good at killing enemies behind cover.

Also, keep in mind that the movement speed in this game and the amount of cover is far, far lower than "most FPS" games. The TTKs are around four to five times slower along with the movement speed. It encourages tactical play rather than "lol I press trigger before you do by a tenth of a second" style gameplay that games like CoD encourage. It's the reason why I play Dust over those games.

Most AR guys also use their sights so we shoot accurately
A lot, and I mean tons, of guys who use other weapons just fire from the hip unless they are using the normal scrambler rifle or the sniper rifle

This is because his figure is BS. A GEK/Duvolle with Proficiency 5 and a single Complex Damage Mod has a TTK of 1 second against the average STD/ADV suit with 500-600 HP. Against Proto suits with 800-900 HP, you're looking at 1.5 seconds. Other weapons, such as the Mass Driver and Laser Rifle, do indeed have 3-4 second TTKs against similar suits. Of course, the Laser heats up and has a bit of a range advantage while the MD is more of an area denial weapon that's good at killing enemies behind cover.

Also, keep in mind that the movement speed in this game and the amount of cover is far, far lower than "most FPS" games. The TTKs are around four to five times slower along with the movement speed. It encourages tactical play rather than "lol I press trigger before you do by a tenth of a second" style gameplay that games like CoD encourage. It's the reason why I play Dust over those games.

3 seconds is such a mind bogglingly long TTK that if it take you 3 seconds to get behind cover or start dodging you need to consider other games. Most FPSs have a 0.1-1s TTK. Human reaction times are measured in fractions of a second.

Most AR guys also use their sights so we shoot accurately
A lot, and I mean tons, of guys who use other weapons just fire from the hip unless they are using the normal scrambler rifle or the sniper rifle

MD requires more skill since it's not an aim-assisted weapon, you have to lead your shots, and the AR actually out DPS and outright outperforms it in terms of area denial. Keep pretending that the AR is this super balanced weapon if you want, but I'm using it right now. Just by hip firing, I'm wrecking everything in my way from heavies to lasers. The only time I actually have to ADS, or let alone "aim" is when I'm shooting at someone just outside my rendering distance. I've even killed a damn sniper from a distance where I should have had 53% efficiency within a fraction of a second. How in the hell is that balanced?

What? No one does that unless it's CQC...

I'll be thinking my minmatar scout would drop like a fly when there an assault scrambler rifle start shooting at me, but no i can out run it optical range or drive through it bullets. The AR for some reason is killing from 70m away, there is no way i can outrun that even with two complex kinetic catalyze.

Not trying to be a QQ( even though a lot of people know that the AR optical range is too far for blaster tech)


And here come the AR users

BET THEY WILL BE SAYING " NO THE AR IS NOT OP YOU JUST SUCK"

Bet 10 mill their will be one

5+ meter splash range
100+ damage per shot
Claims you need skill
Now Ive used both and the MD is by far much easier and more broken than than the AR, oh and I forgot it negates the defensive benefits of cover or even bouncing around like an idiot

And thats not even bringing up that AA has been drastically reduced from what it was, which was kind of broke I wont dispute that since its true, to being barely noticeable but hey people like to keep dragging that out and just pretend that nearly a week straight of hot fixes happened to tweak it down over and over
or do you not know what the syncing bar when you launch the game is?

Keep defending your crutch...

Oh please, the aim assist is sooo good that your erratic movements are still being tracked even with the user input.Even if don't run in a straight line. In which, I dont. You can run across to the field, shooting upon and won't move a thumbstick to change your pattern.

Or are you actually saying that the aim assist isnt strong that bizarre movements cant avoid fire and yout still being tracked even though the user has to have the crosshair somewhat near you to score a hit, He doesn't has to be calm and cool as he tracks your movements allowing only little of his own interactions to matter when the aim assist carries on with the rest.

I see a crutch...

Says the guy that was defending the MD