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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.10.17 01:13:00 -
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Most AR guys also use their sights so we shoot accurately
A lot, and I mean tons, of guys who use other weapons just fire from the hip unless they are using the normal scrambler rifle or the sniper rifle |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.10.17 10:07:00 -
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Tek Hound wrote:Delta 749 wrote:AR guys have AA with no recoil so we shoot accurately
A lot, and I mean tons, of Ar guys just fire from the hip. Why use a normal scrambler rifle or the sniper rifle? Fixed it 
Herp derp da AA dat applies to all guns only make da AR OP gais
Idiot |
Delta 749
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Posted - 2013.10.20 02:21:00 -
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Borne Velvalor wrote:Shion Typhon wrote:Tek Hound wrote:AA with 3sec ttk crutchmode  3 seconds is such a mind bogglingly long TTK that if it take you 3 seconds to get behind cover or start dodging you need to consider other games. Most FPSs have a 0.1-1s TTK. Human reaction times are measured in fractions of a second. This is because his figure is BS. A GEK/Duvolle with Proficiency 5 and a single Complex Damage Mod has a TTK of 1 second against the average STD/ADV suit with 500-600 HP. Against Proto suits with 800-900 HP, you're looking at 1.5 seconds. Other weapons, such as the Mass Driver and Laser Rifle, do indeed have 3-4 second TTKs against similar suits. Of course, the Laser heats up and has a bit of a range advantage while the MD is more of an area denial weapon that's good at killing enemies behind cover. Also, keep in mind that the movement speed in this game and the amount of cover is far, far lower than "most FPS" games. The TTKs are around four to five times slower along with the movement speed. It encourages tactical play rather than "lol I press trigger before you do by a tenth of a second" style gameplay that games like CoD encourage. It's the reason why I play Dust over those games.
Yeah, cause bunny hopping spamming MD shots at peoples feet is the pinnacle of tactical play
This games play style is a throwback to 90s era arena FPS games, not that theres anything wrong with that, but lets not pretends is some ultimate tactical experience
Hell lets look at the Rainbow Six games pre Vegas, would you call those games not tactical since that tenth of a second you seem to hate is all it takes to kill a guy wearing the heaviest armor available
Inb4 someone goes "Derp, well tactics technically is anything you do to do something so this game is tactical" no its not, not by the generally agreed upon definition of a tactical FPS so dont try to split hairs to keep up the delusion that playing this game somehow makes you smarter than people who play other FPS games, thats being just like the evetard who things because he plays that he is inherently better than someone who plays a different MMO |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.10.20 06:00:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Borne Velvalor wrote:Shion Typhon wrote:Tek Hound wrote:AA with 3sec ttk crutchmode 3 seconds is such a mind bogglingly long TTK that if it take you 3 seconds to get behind cover or start dodging you need to consider other games. Most FPSs have a 0.1-1s TTK. Human reaction times are measured in fractions of a second. This is because his figure is BS. A GEK/Duvolle with Proficiency 5 and a single Complex Damage Mod has a TTK of 1 second against the average STD/ADV suit with 500-600 HP. Against Proto suits with 800-900 HP, you're looking at 1.5 seconds. Other weapons, such as the Mass Driver and Laser Rifle, do indeed have 3-4 second TTKs against similar suits. Of course, the Laser heats up and has a bit of a range advantage while the MD is more of an area denial weapon that's good at killing enemies behind cover. Also, keep in mind that the movement speed in this game and the amount of cover is far, far lower than "most FPS" games. The TTKs are around four to five times slower along with the movement speed. It encourages tactical play rather than "lol I press trigger before you do by a tenth of a second" style gameplay that games like CoD encourage. It's the reason why I play Dust over those games. MD requires more skill since it's not an aim-assisted weapon, you have to lead your shots, and the AR actually out DPS and outright outperforms it in terms of area denial. Keep pretending that the AR is this super balanced weapon if you want, but I'm using it right now. Just by hip firing, I'm wrecking everything in my way from heavies to lasers. The only time I actually have to ADS, or let alone "aim" is when I'm shooting at someone just outside my rendering distance. I've even killed a damn sniper from a distance where I should have had 53% efficiency within a fraction of a second. How in the hell is that balanced?
5+ meter splash range
100+ damage per shot
Claims you need skill
Now Ive used both and the MD is by far much easier and more broken than than the AR, oh and I forgot it negates the defensive benefits of cover or even bouncing around like an idiot
And thats not even bringing up that AA has been drastically reduced from what it was, which was kind of broke I wont dispute that since its true, to being barely noticeable but hey people like to keep dragging that out and just pretend that nearly a week straight of hot fixes happened to tweak it down over and over
or do you not know what the syncing bar when you launch the game is? |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.10.20 06:03:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Most AR guys also use their sights so we shoot accurately
A lot, and I mean tons, of guys who use other weapons just fire from the hip unless they are using the normal scrambler rifle or the sniper rifle What? No one does that unless it's CQC...
You would be surprised, use a weapon for a little while and youll start to recognize its hip fire cone after a while and a lot of guys really do just spray from the hip throwing a wall of bullets hoping to get lucky since a lot of guns have insane clip sizes, AR included in that and the one thing I would tone down on it |
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Posted - 2013.10.20 06:57:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:
Keep defending your crutch...
Says the guy that was defending the MD |
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