Here we go again with another one of these threads that's started and supported by people that suck at using ARs.

The ONLY alteration that is acceptable to the AR imo,is a reduced amount of ammo in the clip.

Max ammo should only be 45 rounds,50 for the Krin's,and 55 for the GAR-21.

Having less ammo would force people to play with more strategy,stick in bigger groups,and it makes logis more viable.

Seems like anti AR nuts just want a complete nerf so they can feel like they have a better chance of winning.

We are talking about range not accuracy and yes plasma does have less range than a human AR

-- snip a bunch of really bad ideas expressed with QQ --

First the thought that CCP will listen is just so cute it makes me smile.

Second, learn how to play the game. Because the AR is the default weapon in virtually every FPS. And DUST has already gutted the AR from its previous high by quite a drastic amount. If you didn't play in the Beta then you don't know that all ARs had decent scopes and many got Iron Sights as a replacement. That alone dropped the long distance kills by a large percentage.

'AR Nerf' is the sound of whiners and it is music to our ears. You suggestion is a Major Nerf and just because your lying fingers claim it isn't a 35m limit will put them just above the HMG for range. Leaving what as an option? Anything but an AR obviously because you are getting stomped by them.

HTFU or GTFO.

I doubt my view of "effective range" is the same as yours.

Judging from the 50m and 75m indicators on the mini map, I know that the AR remains extremely potent at these ranges.

Perhaps you mean the point at which it starts losing damage? That's not what I mean.

First the thought that CCP will listen is just so cute it makes me smile.

Second, learn how to play the game. Because the AR is the default weapon in virtually every FPS. And DUST has already gutted the AR from its previous high by quite a drastic amount. If you didn't play in the Beta then you don't know that all ARs had decent scopes and many got Iron Sights as a replacement. That alone dropped the long distance kills by a large percentage.

'AR Nerf' is the sound of whiners and it is music to our ears. You suggestion is a Major Nerf and just because your lying fingers claim it isn't a 35m limit will put them just above the HMG for range. Leaving what as an option? Anything but an AR obviously because you are getting stomped by them.

HTFU or GTFO.

Just for the record: is pretty much defined as unfightable. Mass driver and flaylock pistol were unfightable. Old lavs were unfightable. Drop ships without swarm luanchers are unfightable.

I dont care who you are. If you have an assualt rifle in its current state and you face some one else who has the same or an smg. You always have a fighting chance.

Op is rediculous. The ar is far from rediculous. Core locust grenades are loldiculous.

Both the Mass Driver and Flaylock use to be as good as the AR. Then people complained...

Ar does not 1 hit kill.

Ar does not 1 hit kill.

Are you serious a real AR 15 has over 500 yards in hitting a point target. I use to qualify at 500 yards in the Marine Corp and could hit 10 out of 10 rounds into a mans heart. The distance you suggest is near a SMG not a rifle. If they do decide to alter the AR they need to refund all SP to everyone that wishes to opt out.

first off the assault rifle is by nature a medium range weapon. so I can't say I agree with your Idea. adjustment is needed but not like this.

rebalance:

gallente: lower the rof w/ minor damage buff
caldari: semi auto medium long range
minmatar: high ROF medium short range
amarr: fine the way it is

I have lvl 3 in all light weapons (except ARs, Swarms, Sniper Rifle, and MDs) that way i'll always have diversity in this game, and support this idea.