What CCP intends =/= reality.

No class is superior to the other? Wow. Get out of competitive gaming. Now.

KDR is the most important stat, period.

Do not needle me in the middle of an active firefight. Dying happens, dying twice to a single mistake does not need to happen. You are messing with my KDR. Just because you've decided to have a horrible KDR for eternity and be bad doesn't mean the rest of us have to. Your assistance is neither wanted, nor appreciated.


Thank you for your time.

I say that based on experience. is seems your ignorance knows no bounds like lukeboy.

Do not needle me in the middle of an active firefight. Dying happens, dying twice to a single mistake does not need to happen. You are messing with my KDR. Just because you've decided to have a horrible KDR for eternity and be bad doesn't mean the rest of us have to. Your assistance is neither wanted, nor appreciated.


Thank you for your time.

From experience? From EXPERIENCE you say?

Oh this is going to be good.

Please list any and all competitive gaming related majors you have won and/or placed top 3 in.

LOL You play DUST, why?

I didn't know you were talking about mlg ****, why on earth would you automatically assume that iv been in mlg?

I guess your title of being in synergy have made you grow ignorant and repulsive... but it comes with the territory.

when im talking about class advantages and disadvantages, im talking about every fps game iv ever played. cod, bf, resistance, halo, etc etc. no class is superior or inferior to any other class, advantages and disadvantages are too numerous to find common ground anywhere.. I would suggest playing killzone 2 for classes that are literally perfect.

So in other words, im too ignorant to realize that my standards are not the standards of everyone else and I think everyone who thinks differently from me are idiots

Ok.

hm... interesting because I cannot buy back my fittings or equipment with K/DR, can only do it with something called ISK and sometimes aurum... nope, no k/d.

if k/d was the most important stat, then I would be able to buy stuff with it.

K/D doesn't even accurately portray "slayer" skill, you could have a k/d of 10.0 when going against nubs who barely made their character an hour ago, then you have a k/d of 3.0 going against people on your level of tier, gear and skill. KD doesn't mean hardly anything here.

that argument has base in call of duty, halo and battlefield. not here.

You have no experience whatsoever in competitive gaming yet seem to believe that your opinion is anywhere near valid when approaching the subject of intended game design versus practical application.


It's time for you to stop talking now and walk away.


Your opinion is not valid and it never will be.

This is just getting silly....

KDR is a STAT - to get a more or less accurate idea of the players skill.

AUR and ISK is ingame money. How the hell is it possible to put those two up against each other? The oone being a stat and the other being a resource? KDR being the most important stat, isk/aur being the second most important resource after skillpoints.

You must be trolling right? You can't be that, well I guess the correct term is stupid.


- If you struggle with your income/cost ratio and isk is in short supply, well, you're not a good player for starters. And also, having a good KDR goes a long way for keeping the suit loss at a minimum.

And I think I covered the situationak aspect of the KDR stat pretty well. Out of curiosity, what is your KDR? In my experience most players that say it doesn't matter don't tend to have a good one...

You have no experience whatsoever in competitive gaming yet seem to believe that your opinion is anywhere near valid when approaching the subject of intended game design versus practical application.


It's time for you to stop talking now and walk away.


Your opinion is not valid and it never will be.

The amount of terrible players and sheer assholes in this game is appalling. For example: I've had a number of games where I set up uplinks on rooftops and put nanohives down, then if I die I'll switch to FG and proceed to blast people. What do some of these logiscrubs/blueberries do as soon as they spawn? They'll sit there and throw grenades non stop to destroy the nanohives, then jump down, die, spawn, die, spawn, die, rinse and repeat until uplink is gone.

Not only does no one drop equipment to help out, they'll purposely go out of their way to screw the rest of the team up by consuming nanohives/uplinks while not providing anything useful. It's mind boggling how selfish and utterly stupid people can be in this game. Then I'll get TEAMMATES sending me hatemails like "HAHA NO NANOHIVES FOR YOU!"

I can't do anything but laugh in those situations. I just turn off the game and play in the mornings when the kiddies are at school. I notice that the r-tards tend to come out in the evenings when I assume the CoD-kids are back from school and need their daily dose of douchebaggery.

I can do nothing but laugh of some of the more delusinal replies here...

"I'm a logi, not a great killer but I mostly end up on top or near to it in terms of WP", newsflash: Its so very very easy to get loads of WPs in Dust, toss some uplinks around, hack a little, rez a little and repair. These things take almost no skill at all, anyone can do it easily. Doing that while still having a 5+ KDR, that a lot of the "assaultlogi" hybrids (like me) out there does, do take some skill.

KDR is the most important stat, period.

That being said, the number isn't really that interresting. Like me, I have roughly a 5.3 KDR, if I wanted to, I could have gotten it up to perhaps 10 by not playing drunk, not going jihad into large groups of enemies, never using any form of LOL fits and just by generally playing in a more defensive manner, and not least; I could always camp on some pipe or rooftop....

On the other hand, if I didn't group up with good people half the times I play and with the same aggressive playstyle, I'd probably have a KDR of 3 or less....

So there is KDR and "legit" KDR, which makes it all way too complicated and with many details subject for debate. Lets just say that I see a lot of players that are a lot better than their stats say, and I see a lot of players with very nice stats that are totally useless out of their comfort zone.

This debate raged on the MAG forums for months, and the community finally decided to get it resolved once and for all. We splitt into two teams, something like: Tryhards vs teamplayers, and what happened?

The players with supposibly the best co-ordination and team oriented players got totally oblitterated, they barely made it out of the redline....

So what do you really want in a team?

Slayers and logislayer hybrids... (And pilots and AV aswell.)


We can do it here too, lets set up two temporary teams, one with high KDR egotistical tryhard slayers and one with the more team oriented low KDR players. I can sort of guess the outcome...

My point exactly.

I play for KDR (i know, killing people in a FPS, how dreadful) and to win. Logi's play for useless actions that generate WP and give them the illusion of being worth something.

This is just getting silly....

KDR is a STAT - to get a more or less accurate idea of the players skill.

AUR and ISK is ingame money. How the hell is it possible to put those two up against each other? The oone being a stat and the other being a resource? KDR being the most important stat, isk/aur being the second most important resource after skillpoints.

You must be trolling right? You can't be that, well I guess the correct term is stupid.


- If you struggle with your income/cost ratio and isk is in short supply, well, you're not a good player for starters. And also, having a good KDR goes a long way for keeping the suit loss at a minimum.

And I think I covered the situationak aspect of the KDR stat pretty well. Out of curiosity, what is your KDR? In my experience most players that say it doesn't matter don't tend to have a good one...

You stay on rooftops with a FG and you call other players stupid and selfish?

You do Realise that you could sit in the redline as a sniper and go 1-0 for 30 games and have a KD/R of 30 and then leave it on passive SP gain right ?

KD/R is a pretty useless stat when you don't take part in balanced games, you can whinge and whine and say this or that but you can never escape the fact that your KD/R could be based on you running a proto in every game with a squad of 5 other people in proto gear going up v brand new players in their 1st game out of the academy

I absolutely destroy my 2year old nephew when we play basketball, he has never scored a point against me .. does that mean I'm the greatest basketball player ever ?? Using your logic it does .. YAY MEEEE :P

I get 50 kills in a match and destroy tanks/enemy installations throughout the match, so yes. I believe I have the right to call people stupid and selfish. Besides, my FG is one of my three primary fits. I have 22m SP so I'm by no means a dedicated FG.

I spawn with a Logi fit, drop proto uplinks and nanohives everywhere for the team. Switch to my Assault fit if it's necessary, otherwise I play FG to help the team with vehicles/suppression. What is it exactly you expect a forge gunner to do? Be some frontline warrior? I specced into it so I could have a dedicated AV fit, and it so happens that altitude is necessary for a FG to be effective.

People who suck with kB/m that are incapable of aiming while strafing ridiculously quick.

This- a 1000 times this....

and +1

Do not needle me in the middle of an active firefight. Dying happens, dying twice to a single mistake does not need to happen. You are messing with my KDR. Just because you've decided to have a horrible KDR for eternity and be bad doesn't mean the rest of us have to. Your assistance is neither wanted, nor appreciated.


Thank you for your time.

Until bluberries stop doing this list, I'll farm the sht out of people with my needle.

Stealing or waiting to steal my fking vehicle.

Doing fk all.

Running around solo deluded thinking it helps on any significant level.

Going 0/10, REALLY? You are only useful for being farmed.

Being so oblivious to anything its like they want to be fking told what to do.

Redline snipers, enough said,

Assaults using needles that run in the heat of battle to pick someone up, double farming right there.

Heavies using either a shotgun or mass driver.

People who suck with kB/m that are incapable of aiming while strafing ridiculously quick.

Anyone in a commando suit.

Anyone that's a member of goonfeet.

And lastly anyone called himiko, nah I'm kidding on that one Lol.

As for Logis with less than 2.00 kd, they are either newbs or just sht players riding the pure support train to hide it, rather than just quit they are able to continue being inadequate via support only logi.