John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.10.10 12:15:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:You have no experience whatsoever in competitive gaming yet seem to believe that your opinion is anywhere near valid when approaching the subject of intended game design versus practical application.
It's time for you to stop talking now and walk away.
Your opinion is not valid and it never will be.
LOL at the self-importance of people in competitive gaming. Some of us have real jobs, tryhard.
Anyway, I'll be honest, as I Logibro I have to agree that the assault players are the ones that, when you really get down to it, will win the game for you. My job is basically to make you better at your job.
The difference is that I don't go on the forums and whine about other people trying to do theirs! |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.10.10 23:25:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:KingBabar wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:I don't quite understand what all this rage is for...
this is an FPS, there is no more important stat than KDR...
No seriously... there is nothing more important that KDR... how many enemy clones did you kill vs how many did you lose for your side. This is a game where you shoot people... and whomever shoots more people without getting shot is the most skilled player.
Isk lost/isk destroyed? meaningless... isk is essentially meaningless as well.
If someone goes 1/10 in MLT with a isk L/D ratio of 5 vs a guy going 30/1 in PRO with a isk L/D ratio of 1... the guy in proto did WAAAAY better, and was by far the more skilled and contributing player.
Seriously guys, name one that is more important that KDR in a game where the sole objective is killing other people.
Win/Loss ratio is irrelevant as well, there is no point or reward for winning, nor is your W/L ratio determined by anything other than matchmaking luck unless you grab a full squad of protos to 'tryhard' for the win.
In the words of the undisputedly #1 dust player, regnyum:
"KDR > EVERYTHING" I thught that was Aldin? Oh maybe I dunno... they are both incredible players and a blast to play with. I wasn't really being all that serious with the post, It just inherently has a lot of logic to it due to the Lobby FPS nature of the game. In my personal opinion WP/Death and WP/min will be much much more valid stats than KDR. WP/Death is easy to track, WP/min is impossible afaik. They just need a well balanced and fully flushed out WP system before these stats can become meaningful.
Good ol ZDUb, definitely some proto trolling, pissing people off and making a good point at the same time. KDR isn't completely meaningless, it just has to be taken in context. As a logi who didn't start early in beta, and thus, got protostomped for months on end, it's gonna take me a while to get out this hole, esp, since I still don't have proto suits.
See, I purposely chose to skill broadly, which is like a self-imposed nerf, and play a way I enjoy, which includes hunting tanks, which, regardless of how unbalanced AV is, still gets you killed a lot. So does running out in the open to get to where I'm needed in a slow bright yellow suit that practically dares snipers to shoot me. I also know its a stacked, pyramid-scheme type system like you've already described, motivating me even less to work on polishing my epee.. I mean, KDR. I could play more carefully all the time and get my KDR up faster but I wouldn't enjoy it. It's a vicious cycle - I don't care about my KDR, and precisely for that reason it's not very good. The broken system put me in a hole and I'm not going to drive myself crazy trying to correct it, worrying too much about your stats in a freaking video game is definitely not fun.
I'm not going to pretend I have the best gun game in the world, I'm not in MLG, I have a real job and just don't play enough to become l33t, but I can hold my own when I want to, I just don't all the time. My KDR is less indicative of my skill than say, some AR scrub who plays ambush all the time. KDR is all he's got.
p.s. not for nothing, but I rarely even use a needle so the OP barely even applies to me, lol |