There's no excuse for an advanced scrambler rifle OHKOing and advanced logi suit with advanced shields and armor. Here I am, I've invested just as much SP as they have, and it makes my GEK look like a piece of trash.

Facts

• It's too accurate to be so powerful
• It's way better than all the other light weapons
• A fully charged headshot from an advanced scrambler rifle tore through 100 shields and 500 armor with one hit.

that's's no excuse for an advanced scrambler rifle OHKOing and advanced logi suit with advanced shields and armor. Here I am, I've invested just as much SP as they have, and it makes my GEK look like a piece of trash.

Facts

• It's too accurate to be so powerful
• It's way better than all the other light weapons
• A fully charged headshot from an advanced scrambler rifle tore through 100 shields and 500 armor with one hit.

Here is why you are wrong:

Damage isn't everything, weapons with lower damage like the AR can also gain very high damage per second because of their high rate of fire. The scrambler rifle has high damage, but its damage per second is limited by how fast you can tap with a human finger.

In the time it takes to charge, an AR could have dealt enough damage to kill you anyway. Charge shots pretty much putting all your shots in one basket; if you miss, then the time you took to change was a waste of time, and that wasted time can make the difference between life or death.

It also cost way more PG/CPU then other similar weapons.

The Scrambler rifle also overheats after ONLY about 15 quickly fired shots, and you can't run or switch weapons until it cools down.

In closing, your opinion is wrong.

The only other advanced weapons that can OHKO you like that are Forge, Plasma cannon, and Sniper. And they all have a balance between power and drawbacks.
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List a few more

Shotgun, Scrambler Pistol, and Nova Knives

I feel bad for you if you've been OHKOed by a scrambler pistol, bro.

I was shooting him in the head with my GEK, and that didn't stop him from annihilating me with his insanely powerful equivalent to a Semi-Automatic Sniper Rifle that can fire ungodly yellow beams of death at you.
It's basically like the Golden Gun of Dust.

As a scout, you really shouldn't fear anything that's not a Tactical Assault Rifle from long distance.
Which brings up another scrambler rifle issue: the range.

And switching to a sidearm if you've fired the scrambler too rapidly shouldn't be that hard.

Look guys

The only other advanced weapons that can OHKO you like that are Forge, Plasma cannon, and Sniper. And they all have a balance between power and drawbacks.

Scrambler rifles remind me of the time I used Action Replay codes on Metroid Prime Hunters DS, and made it so I could hold down the button and fire infinite sniper rifle bullets.

"The idea being that each race will have it's base variant be Assault, (Gallente) Burst (Minmatar), Breach (Caldari) or Tactical (Amarr) and then the variants are a specific race's take on the others using their own tech. So, you'd get an Assault Rail Rifle that attempts to somewhat mimic the behavior of the Gallente Assault Rifle and a Tactical Assault Rifle that attempts to mimic the Amarr Scrambler Rifle and so on."
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=870299#post870299 from CCP Remnant.

Confirms the tactical AR is basically a Gallente scrambler rifle.

Now consider this:
Scramblers are lasers. Lasers have the 2nd highest range, 2nd to only railguns.
ARs are blasters (including the tactical AR). Blasters are the lowest range weapons.

Given all this info, you would expect the scrambler rifle to have longer range than the tac AR, but somehow its the opposite.

Then perhaps we've never met.

Also, try using the SR if you think its so OP. Go ahead and see how well you do.

better yet, take me on and see how that turns out.

I want to watch, record it if he says yes.

There's no excuse for an advanced scrambler rifle OHKOing and advanced logi suit with advanced shields and armor. Here I am, I've invested just as much SP as they have, and it makes my GEK look like a piece of trash.

Facts

• It's too accurate to be so powerful
• It's way better than all the other light weapons
• A fully charged headshot from an advanced scrambler rifle tore through 100 shields and 500 armor with one hit.

I feel bad for you if you've been OHKOed by a scrambler pistol, bro.

To the OP, I think I may have been way too harsh; I don't know if I really was, but feels like I was since I typed with anger. I'm sorry.
You're still wrong though, and my points still stand.

This

I have AR + 3 levels proficiency. Now the Tac AR is sub par to the Scrambler Rifle, I can agree there but it should be.
You have no idea how annoying the overheat is to me. Yes I monitor it but accidents will happen and when you do you are screwed. A scout unable to sprint nor take out their sidearm is as good as dead not to mention the feedback damage.

You are approaching the Scrambler from a paper perspective. Wars are not fought on paper good sir. The Scrambler rifle requires precision and vigilance, none of which are required for the AR. The Scrambler rewards those two traits while the AR rewards merely anything.

Meh, I find it annoying that the gun is better at sub machine range than its intended. Its so good in that range I agree that the gun needs a rework, higher alpha and lower rof would work. I only get killed by the thing when hip fire spammed from inside 20M. I'll let you in on a little secret that will help you out against people that use the gun just like the old tac ar though. Here's the secret, never ADS when they come at you. Strafe and burst fire whatever gun you're using, after they blow their OP spam load and if you survive gun them down. Problem is with AA your chances of surviving are slim, but this will help you win more than you would have before.

The Scrambler Rifle is an amazing weapon that really rewards players with decent aim and a tactical approach, who rather think and flank their opponents instead of push on the first line.

The inconsistent volume of fire (it's semi-automatic and it overheats quickly) makes it useless for suppression, but the charge mechanic makes it extremely powerful for position-war situations. Only Sniper Rifles are more efficient at picking isolated targets (Laser Rfiles are specifically suited for this as well, but there is not a clear winner between SCR and LR, they both works very good at their own optimal range).

This is truly one of the most lethal weapons in the right hands, but these players are a minority. These characteristics, along the high DPS, make it the potential best 1v1 mid-range killer, but quite uncomfortable in CQC and especially against multiple targets.

Verdict: A lovely weapon which works splendidly well for its intended role and rewards intelligent and skilled players, but takes a noticeable amount of time to get used to it and really leaves you exposed if you let your enemies come to you. Not Overpowered.

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I feel bad for you if you've been OHKOed by a scrambler pistol, bro.

just blame damage mods and the over heat reduction plus amarr suit for this one..


ive seen the imperial scrambler rifle at work.

been on the receiving end of it as well.

and with what i stated above.
this is what makes it a cqc god currently.

take away any of whats stated above and it puts at the back of the front line.

but im not suggesting any nerfs for the weapon.

since i sometimes use the assault scrambler.
.

although it does seem a bit too powerful against armor.

Don't you know how it suffers against Armour?

OMG QUICK! NERF THE ONLY WEAPON THAT CAN EVENLY MATCH THE AR!!!

AR 514 IS THREATENED! MAKE IT STAHP!

Another nerf thread translated into the bare-bones basic concept it embodies by yours truly.

No need to thank me.

P.S. Shot a guy out of his LAV seat with a Bloodgrail Imperial scrambler. it was an OHK. He sat still and waited for his buddy, so I charged, then blapped his head off.

It's really no different than a headshot from a proper sniper rifle, honestly. BLAP! DEAD!

If you do the math the CRW and the imperial do 900 HP a second.

705 divided by 60 to find Rounds per second

Which is 11.75 rounds per second

Now multiply that by the damage per shot which off the top of my head is somewhere in the 80 hp range

80 x 11.75 is well over 900 DPS

A heavy machine gun has Less than 500 DPS

Mass drivers have 200- 300 DPS

Assault rifles have Around 500 DPS

The submachine gun does 350 to 450 DPS


And those number do not include and skills it is purely gun stats.

Clearly with these numbers (do the math yourself) we can see the scrambler rifle Does more Dps than a heavy machine gun. which to put it simply is stupid. ( an advanced Scrambler rifle VS Proto HMG)

yes i will accept that most people cant pull the trigger 11 times in one second to actually do the 940 Dps. Thats why we have seen an increase in modded controllers by these scrambler rifle people.

THANK YOU. JESUS TAPDANCING CHRIST PEOPLE.

Why dont you COMPLAIN a little more because you're only trying to defend your Scrambler rifling ways.

To find the DPS of a weapon You take Fire rate and divide by 60
then take that number and multiply by The damage of said gun.

Go do it for every gun in the game and Then tell me which gun has the highest dps in the game other than a sniper rifle(Absolutely no skills included)


If you can prove me wrong I will personally give you 60 million isk


And the guy who said math is useless is very stupid.

Edit:
In fact tomorrow i am going to do the DPS of ever single weapon in the game and post here just so you all can see it.
(Most of you are too stupid to do it anyways)

Then perhaps we've never met.

Also, try using the SR if you think its so OP. Go ahead and see how well you do.

better yet, take me on and see how that turns out.

Meh, I find it annoying that the gun is better at sub machine range than its intended. Its so good in that range I agree that the gun needs a rework, higher alpha and lower rof would work. I only get killed by the thing when hip fire spammed from inside 20M. I'll let you in on a little secret that will help you out against people that use the gun just like the old tac ar though. Here's the secret, never ADS when they come at you. Strafe and burst fire whatever gun you're using, after they blow their OP spam load and if you survive gun them down. Problem is with AA your chances of surviving are slim, but this will help you win more than you would have before.

Did you skip over the part where I said a charged headshot took out my 500 armor in one hit?
There is NO way it "suffers against armor" the Imperial scrambler 2KOs my armor.

All of you are just butthurt because you don't want CCP to nerf your God weapon.

The fact of the matter is I do have a Scrambler character and even though the character has under 600k SP I got an INSANE KDR with the Advanced Scrambler, that I WOULD NOT get with the Assault rifle.

And let me put it bluntly guys
Are you seriously complaining that AR is overpowered in a FPS game?

The only things that are OP in this game are portable OHKO God-like Scrambler Rifles, and those Grenades that detonate on impact.

problem is, the heat does not go up per shot but per second from regular fire. charged shot + hardware mods for super rapid fire => you either die from a HS or 0.1s later from the aim assisted rapid fire.

EDIT: also "cqc god" is hyperbole, i rely on my sidearm for cqc and thats usually a scrambler pistol or a smg, ask any dedicated SR user and they will tell you how stupid you are if you rely only on your SR for cqc, you wont last a minute against players like me, Lea Silencio or Vin Vicious (to name a few) with your logic

Tiberus is absoloutely correct. My scrambler pistol is usually my finisher in CQC more often than not. As a matter of fact, i have a certain rotation that I do:

1. See a target, pull out my SCR, unload.
2. Switch to pistol, continue fire.
3. Repeat if necessary.

My reasoning behind this is simple...switching to my sidearm buys me precious seconds for my SCR to cooldown. IF I need it again, it is at the ready. Also, I never just go in guns blazing when I see an enemy. I aim at him, check out his stats, form an attack plan and engage, all in about 1 second.

As many have stated, using the SCR EFFECTIVELY takes adequate skill, patience and constant monitoring of overheat. In the right hands, it is a monster but those players are few and far between. I can tell you that I only know 7 other players who are TRULY dangerous with it.

You, are REALLY lucky I'm not a troll.

The whole point to a Scrambler Rifle is for the headshots it specifically caters to those who get headshots the most often. ITS MAIN PURPOSE in the game is to have MAD headshot damage. The Scrambler Rifle is really not all that great it definitely DOES NOT need to be nerfed... And it scares the **** out of me when people wanna swing the nerf bat. So don't do it all willy nilly.... DPS, matched with the rate of overheat probability during an encounter..... Well, just go try it and then tell me it needs a nerf.

It would be different if You could only get 2 or 3 shots off a second rather than a max of 11 shots a second.

The damage is not the issue it is strictly heat build up/ fire rate. all they have to do is reduce the fire rate slightly to lower the DPS.

its quite simple everyone wins except the guys with modded controlers

I feel bad for you if you've been OHKOed by a scrambler pistol, bro.

I don't see how overheat should even be an issue. If you're doing it right, like most of the Scrambler guys I see, they are covering a point from long to mid-range, and if you get close it's not even going to overheat if there's only YOU VS HIM before he kills you. I'm not talking about like, shooting a bunch of people at once with the Scrambler. Of course if you're pinned down you need to take cover so you don't overheat/die/have to reload. Just like with ANY weapon.

You guys are stupid. I'm not even going to reply to this thread anymore because it's flooded with Scrambler loving butthurt trolls who probably support the Amarr.

To find the DPS of a weapon You take Fire rate and divide by 60
then take that number and multiply by The damage of said gun.

Go do it for every gun in the game and Then tell me which gun has the highest dps in the game other than a sniper rifle(Absolutely no skills included)


If you can prove me wrong I will personally give you 60 million isk


And the guy who said math is useless is very stupid.

Edit:
In fact tomorrow i am going to do the DPS of ever single weapon in the game and post here just so you all can see it.
(Most of you are too stupid to do it anyways)

This thread needs to die

Got scrambler problems? I feel bad for you son , I got 99 problems but a scrambler ant one. Lol

There's no excuse for an advanced scrambler rifle OHKOing an advanced logi suit with advanced shields and armor. Here I am, I've invested just as much SP as they have, and it makes my GEK look like a piece of trash.

Facts

• It's too accurate to be so powerful
• It's way better than all the other light weapons
• A fully charged headshot from an advanced scrambler rifle tore through 100 shields and 500 armor with one hit.

Scrambler rifle does well over 900 DPS

A heavy machine gun has Less than 500 DPS

Mass drivers have 200- 300 DPS

Assault rifles have Around 500 DPS

The submachine gun does 350 to 450 DPS

There's no excuse for an advanced scrambler rifle OHKOing an advanced logi suit with advanced shields and armor. Here I am, I've invested just as much SP as they have, and it makes my GEK look like a piece of trash.

Facts

• It's too accurate to be so powerful
• It's way better than all the other light weapons
• A fully charged headshot from an advanced scrambler rifle tore through 100 shields and 500 armor with one hit.

Scrambler rifle does well over 900 DPS

A heavy machine gun has Less than 500 DPS

Mass drivers have 200- 300 DPS

Assault rifles have Around 500 DPS

The submachine gun does 350 to 450 DPS

Alright guys, I can tell I've been dealt a bad hand. I AGREE WITH YOU GUYS. Slightly.

Just... The accuracy or power needs to be slightly nerfed, or maybe the charge could just be a little weaker.

I was playing with it just now and you're right... it's not invincible... but it pretty much destroys anything that's not a Heavy. Just needs a little more balance to it IMO.

Alright guys, I can tell I've been dealt a bad hand. I AGREE WITH YOU GUYS. Slightly.

Just... The accuracy or power needs to be slightly nerfed, or maybe the charge could just be a little weaker.

I was playing with it just now and you're right... it's not invincible... but it pretty much destroys anything that's not a Heavy. Just needs a little more balance to it IMO.

Thank you for finally using the weapon.

Now that you're a bit more informed you should understand that if you compare the SR with the AR, the AR is still top dog it simply has little to no drawbacks

If you try to "adjust" the SR it'll just fall in the bin of wrecked weapons

It is powerful YES but only in the right hands

It is not overpowered, especially when compared to the AR

No, I really think at least the charge should be a little weaker.

&& bad with my gun game? No. I think whenn I was using an AR i was pissed that they have mid to long range advantage.

your AR should have lesser range then a scrambler rifle. the AR is designed that way, or at least suppose to be. your gun game is just that bad. the scrambler is a semi auto weapon compared to the full auto AR. you just died to someone who knows how to pick their shots and take time to aim

Alright guys, I can tell I've been dealt a bad hand. I AGREE WITH YOU GUYS. Slightly.

Just... The accuracy or power needs to be slightly nerfed, or maybe the charge could just be a little weaker.

I was playing with it just now and you're right... it's not invincible... but it pretty much destroys anything that's not a Heavy. Just needs a little more balance to it IMO.

Dude, don't talk ****.

I just got 15/6 by camping an objective swarming with hostiles at mid-range with CRW scrambler.

Here is why you are wrong:

Damage isn't everything, weapons with lower damage like the AR can also gain very high damage per second because of their high rate of fire. The scrambler rifle has high damage, but its damage per second is limited by how fast you can tap with a human finger.

In the time it takes to charge, an AR could have dealt enough damage to kill you anyway. Charge shots pretty much putting all your shots in one basket; if you miss, then the time you took to change was a waste of time, and that wasted time can make the difference between life or death.

It also cost way more PG/CPU then other similar weapons.

The Scrambler rifle also overheats after ONLY about 15 quickly fired shots, and you can't run or switch weapons until it cools down. A charge shot causes a lot of heat buildup, and just firing less than a handful of shots afterwards causes overheat. Overheating in a close gunfight is pretty much a death sentence.

In closing, your opinion is wrong.

ALSO: your first 2 points are opinions, NOT "facts" as you call them.
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You make yourself sound like the typical "voice of reason" guy when in fact, you are not.

Haven't you, on numerous occasions, sent me rage mail about my gun? Didn't you accuse me of having a "special" controller? Didn't your message header say "Reported"?

You, my friend, are a funny guy.

That's okay by most players standards, try Aero who does the same thing and goes 19/0

I'd like to see Aero do it with a character that has under 600k SP, like I did.

I'd like to see Aero do it with a character that has under 600k SP, like I did.

WOW I just buttraped the enemy team with CRW Scrambler

They were camping on one objective and the whole team was fighting the other team

I was practically mid-range sniping that thing is OP mid-range.

Definitely need to weaken the charge shot, at the very least.

I take back my comment on accuracy, that is fine.

And yes I will continue to send you mail every time I fight you, lately its more advise. As soon as your set up goes fotm you're getting a change to heat build up or rof. I can see it coming, but do continue it doesn't affect me at all as I am still waiting for my rail rifle lol.

Charge shot puts the power of many shots into one. Notice how the gun glows immediately. This prevents charge shot spam. Try to fire 3-4 FULLY charged shots in a row. Can't? Because it will pop in your hand. This is the gun's fail safe. It renders you completely useless for 6 seconds. No switching to sidearm. No sprinting. No reloading. Nothing.

Again, that gun is only as good as it's user and elite SCR users are few and far between. The gun is balanced as is. It always has been.

OMG QUICK! NERF THE ONLY WEAPON THAT CAN EVENLY MATCH THE AR!!!

AR 514 IS THREATENED! MAKE IT STAHP!

Another nerf thread translated into the bare-bones basic concept it embodies by yours truly.

No need to thank me.

P.S. Shot a guy out of his LAV seat with a Bloodgrail Imperial scrambler. it was an OHK. He sat still and waited for his buddy, so I charged, then blapped his head off.

It's really no different than a headshot from a proper sniper rifle, honestly. BLAP! DEAD!

Amarr assault 5 lets you fire non-stop charge shots. I hid in the redline and blew through my entire mag to be sure.

SCR will not change and you are wrong. While a big percentage of my fighting is CQC, most of my kills come from charge+volley shots inside of my optimal. The reason you die so quickly to me is because, if memory serves correctly, you run a caldari suit when I face you. You may as well just not fire a round. You'll be dead anyway. And the only reason I am close is because I am trying to push an obj to hack.

And I wouldn't say you face me weekly. I count 4 engagements total in which I have seen you. All within a month and all with disasterous results to you.

Besides, don't you run a Duvolle? I could say the same thing about AR's and their obvious lack of weaknesses, but I don't. You use what works for you, as do I.

Based on the assumption that he isn't fully skilled because he is just now trying it. He will pop it.

The most important point that I said being if it goes fotm it will get changed, if it doesn't get overused of course it will continue to slide under the radar. If tacts didn't get overused I am sure they would still have the same capabilities that they started with as well. Anyway, I have been running a lower SP version of the tactic only downside of it seems to be latency. It seems you either **** face with it or the lag gets you killed.

And yes I will continue to send you mail every time I fight you, lately its more advise. As soon as your set up goes fotm you're getting a change to heat build up or rof. I can see it coming, but do continue it doesn't affect me at all as I am still waiting for my rail rifle lol.

Btw, I don't need your "advice" either. Kthnkxbai!

Some advice for you...watch your flank. I seem to kill you a lot from the side. Keep your head on a swivel.

I was shooting him in the head with my GEK, and that didn't stop him from annihilating me with his insanely powerful equivalent to a Semi-Automatic Sniper Rifle that can fire ungodly yellow beams of death at you.
It's basically like the Golden Gun of Dust.

As a scout, you really shouldn't fear anything that's not a Tactical Assault Rifle from long distance.
Which brings up another scrambler rifle issue: the range.

And switching to a sidearm if you've fired the scrambler too rapidly shouldn't be that hard.

Look guys

The only other advanced weapons that can OHKO you like that are Forge, Plasma cannon, and Sniper. And they all have a balance between power and drawbacks.

Scrambler rifles remind me of the time I used Action Replay codes on Metroid Prime Hunters DS, and made it so I could hold down the button and fire infinite sniper rifle bullets.

So you stomped an Academy game
*Soft Clap*
Oh Bravo

No, you can choose FW from the very beginning.

Guys, I am sick of this thread, so I will not be replying much if at all.

gee guys I was only pretending to be ********

Certainly not to feed trolls. And the thread is practically screaming "HEY! TROLL THIS THREAD!"

Edit: There you go. An appropriate title for a lost cause

I was shooting him in the head with my GEK, and that didn't stop him from annihilating me with his insanely powerful equivalent to a Semi-Automatic Sniper Rifle that can fire ungodly yellow beams of death at you.
It's basically like the Golden Gun of Dust.

As a scout, you really shouldn't fear anything that's not a Tactical Assault Rifle from long distance.
Which brings up another scrambler rifle issue: the range.

And switching to a sidearm if you've fired the scrambler too rapidly shouldn't be that hard.

Look guys

The only other advanced weapons that can OHKO you like that are Forge, Plasma cannon, and Sniper. And they all have a balance between power and drawbacks.

Scrambler rifles remind me of the time I used Action Replay codes on Metroid Prime Hunters DS, and made it so I could hold down the button and fire infinite sniper rifle bullets.

Wow can't believe that I am stepping up to defend scramblers but I believe the OH mechanism does somewhat balance the SR. Unfortunately it is one that seems to need some work, such as possibly increasing the OH damage or increasing the speed at which heat builds up. Friends using the SR have said they can fire off a full clip without overheating and firing at a slower speed also reduces heat buildup so in my mind that says that it is not OP just a weapon that needs some love with the nerf bat. The damage is fine as is the accuracy. I've even spent a few SP on it and see how quickly it could turn into FOTM if we were to have another 3x SP event. They work well even at the 1st level and are certainly more powerful than a standard Assault Rifle but again with all weapons they are not ideal in all situations.

Wow can't believe that I am stepping up to defend scramblers but I believe the OH mechanism does somewhat balance the SR. Unfortunately it is one that seems to need some work, such as possibly increasing the OH damage or increasing the speed at which heat builds up. Friends using the SR have said they can fire off a full clip without overheating and firing at a slower speed also reduces heat buildup so in my mind that says that it is not OP just a weapon that needs some love with the nerf bat. The damage is fine as is the accuracy. I've even spent a few SP on it and see how quickly it could turn into FOTM if we were to have another 3x SP event. They work well even at the 1st level and are certainly more powerful than a standard Assault Rifle but again with all weapons they are not ideal in all situations.

Wow can't believe that I am stepping up to defend scramblers but I believe the OH mechanism does somewhat balance the SR. Unfortunately it is one that seems to need some work, such as possibly increasing the OH damage or increasing the speed at which heat builds up. Friends using the SR have said they can fire off a full clip without overheating and firing at a slower speed also reduces heat buildup so in my mind that says that it is not OP just a weapon that needs some love with the nerf bat. The damage is fine as is the accuracy. I've even spent a few SP on it and see how quickly it could turn into FOTM if we were to have another 3x SP event. They work well even at the 1st level and are certainly more powerful than a standard Assault Rifle but again with all weapons they are not ideal in all situations.

Elaborate on point two.

It's a prenerf Tac with a overheat that kicks in at around 10 shots, and when it OH, it locks the gun up for 5 seconds and deals 75 damage per OH.

You miss 4 of the 10 shots, and you overheat, you die.

You can't melee, you can't switch guns, nothing.

The OH mechanic leaves it balanced for its precision and potential paper DPS.

Figured these might eventually come up, but it's quite balanced.

buff the hmg

''OK guys I have been using the Scrambler[/b] and I'm pretty sure what makes it OP is the damage, or the charged shots. I would say the damage should be nerfed a little to account for those fully automatic ones.''
YOU've been using the scrambler. WOW.That makes you an expert.For How long have you been using it exactly.? Because i've used it since they came out. And i say they DONT need a damage nerf.My opinion is more valid since i have there by more experience in the matter.

''There's no excuse for an advanced scrambler rifle OHKOing an advanced logi suit with advanced shields and armor. Here I am, I've invested just as much SP as they have, and it makes my GEK look like a piece of trash.''
No it doesnt. The Scrambler rifles are awesome 1 on 1 weapons but they cant help you kill multiple foes in a row, say 3+. Plus the Scrambler rifle has higher requirements all around plus draw back you are not taking into consideration.
If you miss the charged shot, unless is a STD suit, you wont have enough shots to kill another suit. Plus , if you use the charged shot, you wont be able to kill that guy n and then another red.

1- It's too accurate to be so powerful
2- It's way better than all the other light weapons
3- A fully charged headshot from an advanced scrambler rifle tore through 100 shields and 500 armor with one hit.

1- Its a precision weapon.It has to be accurate.
2-No its not ,it fulfills a different role.
3-Thats BS and you know it. I could have however bought the 500 shields and 100 armor. STill BS too.

Now let me hit you with some knowledge.
1-I know you are just one salty dude that got owned my a SR user and now thinks complaining will get them nerfed so you can go back to your AR spray and pray ways. So you think using it for 2 weeks or so will make the comunnity go: ''Ah well he's been using the SR, he must know whats hes talking about' . LOL, no.Any experience SR user will make short of your Matari butt.
2-The SR needs weaponry 3, there by more SP.
3-SR cost more than ARs
4-The PG and CPU requirements are INSANE on SR compared to the low requirements of the ARs.
5-The Optimal damage SHOULD BE BUFFED in any case,there is no reason a GEK user can be able to drop a Scrambler rifle user at 55+ mts.Plus the TAC AR has more range and a better sight than a SR.
6-For more effective use, an Amarr Assault must be skilled into, a suit that will only help you with 2 weapons.
7-The weapon is NOT effective vs multiple enemies and has drawbacks such as OVerheat and a pitiful 80% effectivness vs Armor; Armor tanking being the latest trend makes the SR less effective. The AR bonuses are and will always be superior since they have little drawback, -5% / +10%.

The Scrambler rifle will never get nerfed, its not a FOTM and anyone killing me with it its OK in my book,since its a SKILL weapon and actually had to aim....

EDIT:if CCP removes the SCR. we get a respec. and will switch to the next OP weapon. (Intended Troll)

1st off, the SCR is not OP
2nd,even without a Respec i think we all have duvolles...lol

Man I've gotten scrambled so much I got me one and bought others to account for my lack of skills. I don't use those yet, til I get better at it though but, no way!!! Leave the scrambler alone. Just like forge guns, get some or else it's kill or be killed. Soon I will be able to snipe with them and oooooo boyeee ...watch out!!!!!!!

According to one of your older posts you have all weapons at advanced

Did you skip over the part where I said a charged headshot took out my 500 armor in one hit?
There is NO way it "suffers against armor" the Imperial scrambler 2KOs my armor.

All of you are just butthurt because you don't want CCP to nerf your God weapon.

The fact of the matter is I do have a Scrambler character and even though the character has under 600k SP I got an INSANE KDR with the Advanced Scrambler, that I WOULD NOT get with the Assault rifle.

And let me put it bluntly guys
Are you seriously complaining that AR is overpowered in a FPS game?

The only things that are OP in this game are portable OHKO God-like Scrambler Rifles, and those Grenades that detonate on impact.

Sigh...these guys and their modded controller accusations. With the TAC, that would have been a legitimate debate, as they did not have overheat. Have you used the SCR? I mean....really? The faster you fire it, the faster it overheats. Sure you can fire slower but it overheats at the SAME ammo rate. Modded controllers would not benefit from using this gun at all. All you would feel is feedback damage and/or "Lea Silencio committed suicide".

Enough with trying to make the "modded controller" thing a viable argument as to why it should be changed. The SCR is THE MOST BALANCED GUN IN THE GAME TO DATE. It needs neither a nerf or a buff. They pretty much got it right from day one.

Flawed logic is failed logic.

Proto AScrm + Adv Assault SMG = Like a Boss.

Just saying.

Hey i'm looking into skilling into commando's and I wanna know, are Vizams and Imperial Scramblers together effective?

Thanks In Advance.

Hey i'm looking into skilling into commando's and I wanna know, are Vizams and Imperial Scramblers together effective?

Thanks In Advance.

Hey i'm looking into skilling into commando's and I wanna know, are Vizams and Imperial Scramblers together effective?

Thanks In Advance.

Combinations i'd try:

ASCR + MAss Driver
ASCR + LAser Rifle
AR + MAss Driver
AR + TAC AR
SCR + SCR
SCR + AR
Sniper + Swarms
AR + Swarmd
ASCR + Swarms

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The idea is using a weapon for a specific purpose (LAser or TAC: long ranged/mass driver:Area denial/Swarms:AV) And a overall good weapon (AR's , ASCRs)

In the case of dual scramblers,works well because you get 90 continous shots without having to reload and without overheat, but kills the diversity of the suit....

0.02 ISK

I don't think two ScRs would be that great because they would take up to much of your fitting resources. ScR + Placon would be interesting though, maybe not very effective, but fun.

Has anyone here even BEEN a forum moderator?

I'd have locked this ages ago, for it being a one-sided flame war against not only the OP, but anyone with a DIFFERENT OPINION.

Has anyone here even BEEN a forum moderator?

I'd have locked this ages ago, for it being a one-sided flame war against not only the OP, but anyone with a DIFFERENT OPINION.

So what your saying is we're behaving like a squad of duvolles, firing nonstop witj no downside, and are opposition is the scr,the shoot a few times but get hurt from feedback damage (pun intended)

HAHAHA THIS!

Has anyone here even BEEN a forum moderator?

I'd have locked this ages ago, for it being a one-sided flame war against not only the OP, but anyone with a DIFFERENT OPINION.

It overheats rendering us defenseless and does 80+ damage when it does overheat.
Does the AR kill or render its user defenseless?

I feel bad for you if you've been OHKOed by a scrambler pistol, bro.

Only when it runs out of ammo or is just out of range while in range of a ASCR user.

You are talking about 85+k Just in 2 weapons.

Like a Boss =/= Cost effective


For that purpose:
Duvolle + Six Kin SMG = 70k + = Cheaper & 2 Proto level weapons = Like a Baws

I see Kagehoshi and a bunch of you guys trying hard to protect the Scrambler.
I knew it.
It was only a matter of time before cries for a scrambler rifle nerf emerged. I've been on a VERY long hiatus, I am SO not playing this game again if the scrambler gets nerfed despite its perfect balance. lol

"Scrambler Stompers"? WHoo boy, that's a new one.
When did that come out?