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deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
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Posted - 2013.10.13 04:09:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Man I've gotten scrambled so much I got me one and bought others to account for my lack of skills. I don't use those yet, til I get better at it though but, no way!!! Leave the scrambler alone. Just like forge guns, get some or else it's kill or be killed. Soon I will be able to snipe with them and oooooo boyeee ...watch out!!!!!!! According to one of your older posts you have all weapons at advanced |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.10.13 05:27:00 -
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deepfried salad gilliam wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Man I've gotten scrambled so much I got me one and bought others to account for my lack of skills. I don't use those yet, til I get better at it though but, no way!!! Leave the scrambler alone. Just like forge guns, get some or else it's kill or be killed. Soon I will be able to snipe with them and oooooo boyeee ...watch out!!!!!!! According to one of your older posts you have all weapons at advanced
I meant the ones that I do have. I'm just getting into scramblers and forges because it took time getting up to those levels with my other weapons, i.e. ammo, marksmanship and such. I've only been playing a little over a month so you do the math. I can't be that good. I don't even have a proto suit yet but that's coming soon. I'm going to have all weapons in advance soon but will have Forges and snipers in proto so I can roast and scalp people like you. |
Dimitri Rascolovitch
The Immortal Knights
57
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Posted - 2013.10.13 06:12:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:True Adamance wrote:Don't you know how it suffers against Armour? Did you skip over the part where I said a charged headshot took out my 500 armor in one hit? There is NO way it "suffers against armor" the Imperial scrambler 2KOs my armor. All of you are just butthurt because you don't want CCP to nerf your God weapon. The fact of the matter is I do have a Scrambler character and even though the character has under 600k SP I got an INSANE KDR with the Advanced Scrambler, that I WOULD NOT get with the Assault rifle. And let me put it bluntly guys Are you seriously complaining that AR is overpowered in a FPS game? The only things that are OP in this game are portable OHKO God-like Scrambler Rifles, and those Grenades that detonate on impact.
look, the non Amarrian scum called the holy weapon god like, he seems to be learning, although he tries to use a worthless stat to back up his findings, your KDR dont mean **** in the academy |
Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
127
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Posted - 2013.10.13 14:58:00 -
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Proto AScrm + Adv Assault SMG = Like a Boss.
Just saying. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
144
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Posted - 2013.10.13 17:30:00 -
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Lea Silencio wrote:abarkrishna wrote:It would be different if You could only get 2 or 3 shots off a second rather than a max of 11 shots a second.
The damage is not the issue it is strictly heat build up/ fire rate. all they have to do is reduce the fire rate slightly to lower the DPS.
its quite simple everyone wins except the guys with modded controlers Sigh...these guys and their modded controller accusations. With the TAC, that would have been a legitimate debate, as they did not have overheat. Have you used the SCR? I mean....really? The faster you fire it, the faster it overheats. Sure you can fire slower but it overheats at the SAME ammo rate. Modded controllers would not benefit from using this gun at all. All you would feel is feedback damage and/or "Lea Silencio committed suicide". Enough with trying to make the "modded controller" thing a viable argument as to why it should be changed. The SCR is THE MOST BALANCED GUN IN THE GAME TO DATE. It needs neither a nerf or a buff. They pretty much got it right from day one. Flawed logic is failed logic. LOL using a modded controller WILL give extreme benefits with the Scrambler Rifles.
Just for the other team. Because your suicide rate will go up exponentially. I tried using SCRs with my old controller and turbo button. And it boiled down to two things:
1.) I'd get the kill, but commit suicide in the process. 2.) I'd get the kill, but when it overheats (which it will), You will get murdered by just about anyone unless your really lucky.
There are many legitimate reasons as to why the SCRs are OP. Such as it being balanced, or a good counter to ARs, or not turning this game into COD514. But try to list a good one next time OP. |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1711
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Posted - 2013.10.13 20:10:00 -
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Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:Proto AScrm + Adv Assault SMG = Like a Boss.
Just saying.
You are talking about 85+k Just in 2 weapons.
Like a Boss =/= Cost effective
For that purpose: Duvolle + Six Kin SMG = 70k + = Cheaper & 2 Proto level weapons = Like a Baws |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
157
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Posted - 2013.10.13 21:14:00 -
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Hey i'm looking into skilling into commando's and I wanna know, are Vizams and Imperial Scramblers together effective?
Thanks In Advance. |
Lea Silencio
D3ath D3alers
444
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Posted - 2013.10.13 21:18:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Hey i'm looking into skilling into commando's and I wanna know, are Vizams and Imperial Scramblers together effective?
Thanks In Advance. Imo, no but I can see how it could be a lethal combo if utilized properly. |
1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
229
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Posted - 2013.10.13 21:21:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Hey i'm looking into skilling into commando's and I wanna know, are Vizams and Imperial Scramblers together effective?
Thanks In Advance.
Its unlikely you would be able to fit both effectively
although
Aero Yassavi is a boss with the ELM and CRD-9 Assault SR combo in his commando suit |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1715
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Posted - 2013.10.13 21:31:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Hey i'm looking into skilling into commando's and I wanna know, are Vizams and Imperial Scramblers together effective?
Thanks In Advance.
Combinations i'd try:
ASCR + MAss Driver ASCR + LAser Rifle AR + MAss Driver AR + TAC AR SCR + SCR SCR + AR Sniper + Swarms AR + Swarmd ASCR + Swarms
The idea is using a weapon for a specific purpose (LAser or TAC: long ranged/mass driver:Area denial/Swarms:AV) And a overall good weapon (AR's , ASCRs)
In the case of dual scramblers,works well because you get 90 continous shots without having to reload and without overheat, but kills the diversity of the suit....
0.02 ISK |
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder.
306
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Posted - 2013.10.13 22:17:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Atiim wrote:Hey i'm looking into skilling into commando's and I wanna know, are Vizams and Imperial Scramblers together effective?
Thanks In Advance. Combinations i'd try:ASCR + MAss Driver ASCR + LAser Rifle AR + MAss Driver AR + TAC AR SCR + SCR SCR + AR Sniper + Swarms AR + Swarmd ASCR + Swarms The idea is using a weapon for a specific purpose (LAser or TAC: long ranged/mass driver:Area denial/Swarms:AV) And a overall good weapon (AR's , ASCRs) In the case of dual scramblers,works well because you get 90 continous shots without having to reload and without overheat, but kills the diversity of the suit.... 0.02 ISK I don't think two ScRs would be that great because they would take up to much of your fitting resources. ScR + Placon would be interesting though, maybe not very effective, but fun. |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1715
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Posted - 2013.10.13 22:23:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote: I don't think two ScRs would be that great because they would take up to much of your fitting resources. ScR + Placon would be interesting though, maybe not very effective, but fun.
I've use a STD commando with 2 STD Scramblers and worked pretty decently. Again im against it since Commandos are all about diversity of firepower...but it does work broski :3 |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2938
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Posted - 2013.10.13 23:31:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Fizzer94 wrote: I don't think two ScRs would be that great because they would take up to much of your fitting resources. ScR + Placon would be interesting though, maybe not very effective, but fun.
I've use a STD commando with 2 STD Scramblers and worked pretty decently. Again im against it since Commandos are all about diversity of firepower...but it does work broski :3 Watch Aero use two ScR at the same time, he does it well. |
bamboo x
Hollowed Kings
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Posted - 2013.10.14 17:19:00 -
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Has anyone here even BEEN a forum moderator?
I'd have locked this ages ago, for it being a one-sided flame war against not only the OP, but anyone with a DIFFERENT OPINION. |
Talos Alomar
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1658
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Posted - 2013.10.14 20:48:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Has anyone here even BEEN a forum moderator?
I'd have locked this ages ago, for it being a one-sided flame war against not only the OP, but anyone with a DIFFERENT OPINION.
This is feedback/requests. You gave your feedback, and we're still giving ours. Don't take people telling you just how wrong your opinion is so seriously. |
deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
47
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Posted - 2013.10.14 21:02:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Has anyone here even BEEN a forum moderator?
I'd have locked this ages ago, for it being a one-sided flame war against not only the OP, but anyone with a DIFFERENT OPINION. So what your saying is we're behaving like a squad of duvolles, firing nonstop witj no downside, and are opposition is the scr,the shoot a few times but get hurt from feedback damage (pun intended) |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3005
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Posted - 2013.10.14 21:23:00 -
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deepfried salad gilliam wrote:bamboo x wrote:Has anyone here even BEEN a forum moderator?
I'd have locked this ages ago, for it being a one-sided flame war against not only the OP, but anyone with a DIFFERENT OPINION. So what your saying is we're behaving like a squad of duvolles, firing nonstop witj no downside, and are opposition is the scr,the shoot a few times but get hurt from feedback damage (pun intended) HAHAHA THIS! |
deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
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Posted - 2013.10.14 21:25:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:deepfried salad gilliam wrote:bamboo x wrote:Has anyone here even BEEN a forum moderator?
I'd have locked this ages ago, for it being a one-sided flame war against not only the OP, but anyone with a DIFFERENT OPINION. So what your saying is we're behaving like a squad of duvolles, firing nonstop witj no downside, and are opposition is the scr,the shoot a few times but get hurt from feedback damage (pun intended) HAHAHA THIS! I just had too |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1755
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Posted - 2013.10.14 21:46:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Has anyone here even BEEN a forum moderator?
I'd have locked this ages ago, for it being a one-sided flame war against not only the OP, but anyone with a DIFFERENT OPINION.
Think next time before posting something as RIDICULOUS as this.... ''CCP should remove one of the few balanced (and still slightly underpowered) weapons from the game becauseits killing me''
''WAA WAAAA pharaoh wants milk.....''
1st off-Its not a FOTM nor OP weapon, because a) It has drawbacks, lot of them. b)It takes skill to use.
I can tell de difference of the scrambler when im facing ANOTHER scrambler rifle user and most of the time I WIN, because i hit him with the charged shot and hit every single followup shot while he was just rapidly pressing R1 hoping AA would make him win.... With the Flaylock pistol, where everybody was running around dual wielding them and 1HKO anything under 350 HP... Now i dont see anyone using flaylocks.Flaylock is my sidearm of choosing to pair up with the crambler rifles (bonus and what not) and i think i must be the only nutjob to skill into it AFTER the nerf....
2nd, let this thread die,because something as ridiculous as an AR user asking for a scrambler rifle nerf is obvious he's just crying out of butthurtz..... |
Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
769
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Posted - 2013.10.14 21:51:00 -
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It overheats rendering us defenseless and does 80+ damage when it does overheat. Does the AR kill or render its user defenseless? |
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DJINN Jecture
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
53
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Posted - 2013.10.15 00:26:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:It overheats rendering us defenseless and does 80+ damage when it does overheat. Does the AR kill or render its user defenseless? Only when it runs out of ammo or is just out of range while in range of a ASCR user. |
Minako Nakajima
The Surrogates Of War
17
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Posted - 2013.10.15 00:49:00 -
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*popcorn mode |
MINA Longstrike
One Shot Killahz
9
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Posted - 2013.10.15 08:24:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:bamboo x wrote: The only other advanced weapons that can OHKO you like that are Forge, Plasma cannon, and Sniper. And they all have a balance between power and drawbacks. [/b][/i]
List a few more Shotgun, Scrambler Pistol, and Nova Knives I feel bad for you if you've been OHKOed by a scrambler pistol, bro.
I've OHKO'd someone with a lucky militia scrambler pistol shot. Full shields and armor to dead. |
deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
69
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Posted - 2013.10.15 09:44:00 -
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DJINN Jecture wrote:Xender17 wrote:It overheats rendering us defenseless and does 80+ damage when it does overheat. Does the AR kill or render its user defenseless? Only when it runs out of ammo or is just out of range while in range of a ASCR user. Scr hav ammo too, so that can happen to and the maps aren't big enough to be outa ar range |
Jathniel
G I A N T EoN.
992
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Posted - 2013.10.15 16:45:00 -
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I see Kagehoshi and a bunch of you guys trying hard to protect the Scrambler. I knew it. It was only a matter of time before cries for a scrambler rifle nerf emerged. I've been on a VERY long hiatus, I am SO not playing this game again if the scrambler gets nerfed despite its perfect balance. lol
"Scrambler Stompers"? WHoo boy, that's a new one. When did that come out? |
Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
139
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Posted - 2013.10.21 16:29:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:Proto AScrm + Adv Assault SMG = Like a Boss.
Just saying. You are talking about 85+k Just in 2 weapons.Like a Boss =/= Cost effectiveFor that purpose: Duvolle + Six Kin SMG = 70k + = Cheaper & 2 Proto level weapons = Like a Baws
Ha! You got me on that one. +1
You are correct there are more cost effective and CPU / PG effective mixes. My point was more playstyle based. I have become pretty decent with the ASCR at mid-range and routinely shift to my SMG for inside 20m. This is mostly due to my B+ at best gun skills....the SMG at mid to close range can make up for quite a bit with the "Boss-like" ROF. ;)
I have found that I routinely lead the team in kill assists when I informally check around. I am struggling to translate the assists to actual kills and even when taking my skill level in consideration I keep coming back to the ASCR not being able to finish the target fast enough. Basically you strip the shields pretty easy, they figure out you are shooting at them and the strafe dance begins...at that point the degraded capability against armor starts to catch up to me.
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven
304
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Posted - 2013.10.21 16:37:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:I see Kagehoshi and a bunch of you guys trying hard to protect the Scrambler. I knew it. It was only a matter of time before cries for a scrambler rifle nerf emerged. I've been on a VERY long hiatus, I am SO not playing this game again if the scrambler gets nerfed despite its perfect balance. lol
"Scrambler Stompers"? WHoo boy, that's a new one. When did that come out?
Sorry but most of us didnt skill into them to stomp pubs, i use it to counter all the duvolle ARs in PC so dont flatter yourselves by thinking I need it to stomp reds.
I use a GEK for that, far more cost effective
Learn to counter. Nerfing things left and right is bad for the game |
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