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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
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Posted - 2013.10.09 05:14:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:bamboo x wrote: The only other advanced weapons that can OHKO you like that are Forge, Plasma cannon, and Sniper. And they all have a balance between power and drawbacks. [/b][/i]
List a few more Shotgun, Scrambler Pistol, and Nova Knives I feel bad for you if you've been OHKOed by a scrambler pistol, bro.
Then perhaps we've never met.
Also, try using the SR if you think its so OP. Go ahead and see how well you do.
better yet, take me on and see how that turns out. |
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Posted - 2013.10.09 05:24:00 -
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Kagehoshi is absolutely correct
the Scrambler Rifle has DRAWBACKS to account for its precision and damage.
compared to the AR, where the only drawback is that you have to reload after 60 rounds.
But im not saying nerf the AR, in fact dont nerf anything, the balance is perfect as is. ARs will always be great, versatile, powerful weapons but skilled players will be able to use other weapons like the Scrambler rifle to counter them.
To OP please be less ignorant before making nerf posts willy nilly, you obviously do not know what you're talking about. and again go skill into the scrambler rifle and try it out, I will queue into a match against you and personally murder you with a GEK just to prove you wrong.
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Posted - 2013.10.09 05:25:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:bamboo x wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:bamboo x wrote: The only other advanced weapons that can OHKO you like that are Forge, Plasma cannon, and Sniper. And they all have a balance between power and drawbacks. [/b][/i]
List a few more Shotgun, Scrambler Pistol, and Nova Knives I feel bad for you if you've been OHKOed by a scrambler pistol, bro. Then perhaps we've never met. Also, try using the SR if you think its so OP. Go ahead and see how well you do. better yet, take me on and see how that turns out. I want to watch, record it if he says yes.
If he recognizes me from random pub games, I doubt he will say yes |
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Posted - 2013.10.09 05:49:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:To the OP, I think I may have been way too harsh; I don't know if I really was, but feels like I was since I typed with anger. I'm sorry. You're still wrong though, and my points still stand.
I know what you mean Kage, but I cannot tolerate ignorance.
And in all honesty, the OP was ignorant in making his claims and so called "facts"
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Posted - 2013.10.09 06:10:00 -
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Kal Kronos wrote:Meh, I find it annoying that the gun is better at sub machine range than its intended. Its so good in that range I agree that the gun needs a rework, higher alpha and lower rof would work. I only get killed by the thing when hip fire spammed from inside 20M. I'll let you in on a little secret that will help you out against people that use the gun just like the old tac ar though. Here's the secret, never ADS when they come at you. Strafe and burst fire whatever gun you're using, after they blow their OP spam load and if you survive gun them down. Problem is with AA your chances of surviving are slim, but this will help you win more than you would have before.
Regardless of your opinions on the weapon itself you have presented and perfected a counter to a particular weapon, this is miles better than what the OP and other people are doing (and by other people I mean the droves of NERF AR whiners around)
Learn to Counter, in this game you shouldnt die the same way twice (except if you died from explosions, theres only one way to die from it and thats BOOM) learn from your mistakes and adapt to the ever changing battleground |
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Posted - 2013.10.09 12:17:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:The Scrambler Rifle is an amazing weapon that really rewards players with decent aim and a tactical approach, who rather think and flank their opponents instead of push on the first line.
The inconsistent volume of fire (it's semi-automatic and it overheats quickly) makes it useless for suppression, but the charge mechanic makes it extremely powerful for position-war situations. Only Sniper Rifles are more efficient at picking isolated targets (Laser Rfiles are specifically suited for this as well, but there is not a clear winner between SCR and LR, they both works very good at their own optimal range).
This is truly one of the most lethal weapons in the right hands, but these players are a minority. These characteristics, along the high DPS, make it the potential best 1v1 mid-range killer, but quite uncomfortable in CQC and especially against multiple targets.
Verdict: A lovely weapon which works splendidly well for its intended role and rewards intelligent and skilled players, but takes a noticeable amount of time to get used to it and really leaves you exposed if you let your enemies come to you. Not Overpowered.
1+ Beautiful summary |
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Posted - 2013.10.09 16:39:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:just blame damage mods and the over heat reduction plus amarr suit for this one..
ive seen the imperial scrambler rifle at work.
been on the receiving end of it as well.
and with what i stated above. this is what makes it a cqc god currently.
take away any of whats stated above and it puts at the back of the front line.
but im not suggesting any nerfs for the weapon.
since i sometimes use the assault scrambler. .
although it does seem a bit too powerful against armor.
So youre saying that if ive chosen and specialized into a particular role, spent millions upon millions into perfecting that 1 role, i shouldnt be "too much more" effective than an AR?
I am an Amarr Assault dedicated marksman, it is my one and only role, learn to counter it
EDIT: also "cqc god" is hyperbole, i rely on my sidearm for cqc and thats usually a scrambler pistol or a smg, ask any dedicated SR user and they will tell you how stupid you are if you rely only on your SR for cqc, you wont last a minute against players like me, Lea Silencio or Vin Vicious (to name a few) with your logic |
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Posted - 2013.10.10 17:44:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:I don't see how overheat should even be an issue. If you're doing it right, like most of the Scrambler guys I see, they are covering a point from long to mid-range, and if you get close it's not even going to overheat if there's only YOU VS HIM before he kills you. I'm not talking about like, shooting a bunch of people at once with the Scrambler. Of course if you're pinned down you need to take cover so you don't overheat/die/have to reload. Just like with ANY weapon.
You guys are stupid. I'm not even going to reply to this thread anymore because it's flooded with Scrambler loving butthurt trolls who probably support the Amarr.
Says the AR loving butthurt troll who probably supports... wait why does it matter which empire we support again? |
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Posted - 2013.10.10 19:53:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:There's no excuse for an advanced scrambler rifle OHKOing an advanced logi suit with advanced shields and armor. Here I am, I've invested just as much SP as they have, and it makes my GEK look like a piece of trash. Facts
- It's too accurate to be so powerful
- It's way better than all the other light weapons
- A fully charged headshot from an advanced scrambler rifle tore through 100 shields and 500 armor with one hit.
Scrambler rifle does well over 900 DPS A heavy machine gun has Less than 500 DPS Mass drivers have 200- 300 DPS Assault rifles have Around 500 DPS The submachine gun does 350 to 450 DPS
Your facts are misinformed, as mentioned somewhere in this post Scrambler Rifle does a large amount of ALPHA DAMAGE, it is a single shot weapon capped by how fast a human can tap the trigger. An AR is a DPS weapon because it can spew out its 60 bullets with CONTINUOS FIRE.
Seriously dude why you trying to nerf **** left and right, the ARs have been and still are powerful and are the most used weapon for the elite players in Dust, the SR is a powerful weapon that rewards skilled players. Why dont you use your efforts to get better at the game and learn to counter particular weapons and strategies, or again as I said skill into the scrambler rifles if you think it is so powerful
HMGs, MDs, ARs, SMGs, Sniper Rifles have no problem ******* up my suit daily but if you're stupid enough to stand still, not use cover and run in the open when players like me are around I WILL gun you down with my Scrambler Rifle and it will hurt.
Please, just try to adapt |
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Posted - 2013.10.10 20:53:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Alright guys, I can tell I've been dealt a bad hand. I AGREE WITH YOU GUYS. Slightly.
Just... The accuracy or power needs to be slightly nerfed, or maybe the charge could just be a little weaker.
I was playing with it just now and you're right... it's not invincible... but it pretty much destroys anything that's not a Heavy. Just needs a little more balance to it IMO.
Thank you for finally using the weapon.
Now that you're a bit more informed you should understand that if you compare the SR with the AR, the AR is still top dog it simply has little to no drawbacks
If you try to "adjust" the SR it'll just fall in the bin of wrecked weapons
It is powerful YES but only in the right hands
It is not overpowered, especially when compared to the AR |
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Posted - 2013.10.13 21:21:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Hey i'm looking into skilling into commando's and I wanna know, are Vizams and Imperial Scramblers together effective?
Thanks In Advance.
Its unlikely you would be able to fit both effectively
although
Aero Yassavi is a boss with the ELM and CRD-9 Assault SR combo in his commando suit |
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Posted - 2013.10.21 16:37:00 -
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Jathniel wrote:I see Kagehoshi and a bunch of you guys trying hard to protect the Scrambler. I knew it. It was only a matter of time before cries for a scrambler rifle nerf emerged. I've been on a VERY long hiatus, I am SO not playing this game again if the scrambler gets nerfed despite its perfect balance. lol
"Scrambler Stompers"? WHoo boy, that's a new one. When did that come out?
Sorry but most of us didnt skill into them to stomp pubs, i use it to counter all the duvolle ARs in PC so dont flatter yourselves by thinking I need it to stomp reds.
I use a GEK for that, far more cost effective
Learn to counter. Nerfing things left and right is bad for the game |
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