I feel bad for you if you've been OHKOed by a scrambler pistol, bro.

just blame damage mods and the over heat reduction plus amarr suit for this one..


ive seen the imperial scrambler rifle at work.

been on the receiving end of it as well.

and with what i stated above.
this is what makes it a cqc god currently.

take away any of whats stated above and it puts at the back of the front line.

but im not suggesting any nerfs for the weapon.

since i sometimes use the assault scrambler.
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although it does seem a bit too powerful against armor.

Don't you know how it suffers against Armour?

OMG QUICK! NERF THE ONLY WEAPON THAT CAN EVENLY MATCH THE AR!!!

AR 514 IS THREATENED! MAKE IT STAHP!

Another nerf thread translated into the bare-bones basic concept it embodies by yours truly.

No need to thank me.

P.S. Shot a guy out of his LAV seat with a Bloodgrail Imperial scrambler. it was an OHK. He sat still and waited for his buddy, so I charged, then blapped his head off.

It's really no different than a headshot from a proper sniper rifle, honestly. BLAP! DEAD!

If you do the math the CRW and the imperial do 900 HP a second.

705 divided by 60 to find Rounds per second

Which is 11.75 rounds per second

Now multiply that by the damage per shot which off the top of my head is somewhere in the 80 hp range

80 x 11.75 is well over 900 DPS

A heavy machine gun has Less than 500 DPS

Mass drivers have 200- 300 DPS

Assault rifles have Around 500 DPS

The submachine gun does 350 to 450 DPS


And those number do not include and skills it is purely gun stats.

Clearly with these numbers (do the math yourself) we can see the scrambler rifle Does more Dps than a heavy machine gun. which to put it simply is stupid. ( an advanced Scrambler rifle VS Proto HMG)

yes i will accept that most people cant pull the trigger 11 times in one second to actually do the 940 Dps. Thats why we have seen an increase in modded controllers by these scrambler rifle people.

THANK YOU. JESUS TAPDANCING CHRIST PEOPLE.

Why dont you COMPLAIN a little more because you're only trying to defend your Scrambler rifling ways.

To find the DPS of a weapon You take Fire rate and divide by 60
then take that number and multiply by The damage of said gun.

Go do it for every gun in the game and Then tell me which gun has the highest dps in the game other than a sniper rifle(Absolutely no skills included)


If you can prove me wrong I will personally give you 60 million isk


And the guy who said math is useless is very stupid.

Edit:
In fact tomorrow i am going to do the DPS of ever single weapon in the game and post here just so you all can see it.
(Most of you are too stupid to do it anyways)

Then perhaps we've never met.

Also, try using the SR if you think its so OP. Go ahead and see how well you do.

better yet, take me on and see how that turns out.

Meh, I find it annoying that the gun is better at sub machine range than its intended. Its so good in that range I agree that the gun needs a rework, higher alpha and lower rof would work. I only get killed by the thing when hip fire spammed from inside 20M. I'll let you in on a little secret that will help you out against people that use the gun just like the old tac ar though. Here's the secret, never ADS when they come at you. Strafe and burst fire whatever gun you're using, after they blow their OP spam load and if you survive gun them down. Problem is with AA your chances of surviving are slim, but this will help you win more than you would have before.

Did you skip over the part where I said a charged headshot took out my 500 armor in one hit?
There is NO way it "suffers against armor" the Imperial scrambler 2KOs my armor.

All of you are just butthurt because you don't want CCP to nerf your God weapon.

The fact of the matter is I do have a Scrambler character and even though the character has under 600k SP I got an INSANE KDR with the Advanced Scrambler, that I WOULD NOT get with the Assault rifle.

And let me put it bluntly guys
Are you seriously complaining that AR is overpowered in a FPS game?

The only things that are OP in this game are portable OHKO God-like Scrambler Rifles, and those Grenades that detonate on impact.

problem is, the heat does not go up per shot but per second from regular fire. charged shot + hardware mods for super rapid fire => you either die from a HS or 0.1s later from the aim assisted rapid fire.

EDIT: also "cqc god" is hyperbole, i rely on my sidearm for cqc and thats usually a scrambler pistol or a smg, ask any dedicated SR user and they will tell you how stupid you are if you rely only on your SR for cqc, you wont last a minute against players like me, Lea Silencio or Vin Vicious (to name a few) with your logic

Tiberus is absoloutely correct. My scrambler pistol is usually my finisher in CQC more often than not. As a matter of fact, i have a certain rotation that I do:

1. See a target, pull out my SCR, unload.
2. Switch to pistol, continue fire.
3. Repeat if necessary.

My reasoning behind this is simple...switching to my sidearm buys me precious seconds for my SCR to cooldown. IF I need it again, it is at the ready. Also, I never just go in guns blazing when I see an enemy. I aim at him, check out his stats, form an attack plan and engage, all in about 1 second.

As many have stated, using the SCR EFFECTIVELY takes adequate skill, patience and constant monitoring of overheat. In the right hands, it is a monster but those players are few and far between. I can tell you that I only know 7 other players who are TRULY dangerous with it.

You, are REALLY lucky I'm not a troll.

The whole point to a Scrambler Rifle is for the headshots it specifically caters to those who get headshots the most often. ITS MAIN PURPOSE in the game is to have MAD headshot damage. The Scrambler Rifle is really not all that great it definitely DOES NOT need to be nerfed... And it scares the **** out of me when people wanna swing the nerf bat. So don't do it all willy nilly.... DPS, matched with the rate of overheat probability during an encounter..... Well, just go try it and then tell me it needs a nerf.

It would be different if You could only get 2 or 3 shots off a second rather than a max of 11 shots a second.

The damage is not the issue it is strictly heat build up/ fire rate. all they have to do is reduce the fire rate slightly to lower the DPS.

its quite simple everyone wins except the guys with modded controlers