BTW i've randomly been a blue dot on your team, and i have to say i love grouping with you even when you're not in my squad. i logi my little heart out to keep you alive and you communicate with me when you need something. Thank you for being a good heavy so I can share my logi love!! <3

I'm pretty sure its using all of the rounds, but it doesn't show them individually disperse. Instead, when -you see one one fly, you're actually watching a "packet" of two of three go out. They just happen to all land together as one shot.

You're "pretty sure"? Based on.....what? This bug isn't like a secret, I've discussed it with several people before. But it sounds like you're watching the animation of bullets fly. That's not what I"m talking about, what I'm talking about is whether or not the bullets are actually considered bullets that deal damage. Which, right now, several of them aren't. I honestly don't get why people seem to ignore this every time I bring it up. I would imagine a gun simply being bugged would be the main concern.

If you don't believe me, go try it out for yourself. You'll notice that red dot in the center of your reticle turns red when you're on target, indicating you're doing damage. And if that dot isn't on target, you stop doing damage.

You're "pretty sure"? Based on.....what? This bug isn't like a secret, I've discussed it with several people before. But it sounds like you're watching the animation of bullets fly. That's not what I"m talking about, what I'm talking about is whether or not the bullets are actually considered bullets that deal damage. Which, right now, several of them aren't. I honestly don't get why people seem to ignore this every time I bring it up. I would imagine a gun simply being bugged would be the main concern.

If you don't believe me, go try it out for yourself. You'll notice that red dot in the center of your reticle turns red when you're on target, indicating you're doing damage. And if that dot isn't on target, you stop doing damage.

All bullets count, ive tested this with people in pc

.... I think you've got the wrong guy

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The problem is not with the HMG it's with the AR and the SMG having too much damage with better hit detection. It used to be that more of their shots went astray, but now those 4-5 missing bullets hit their marks.

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Basically there are a lot of people here claiming to everyone else that they were blinded by a bias and unable to see the real reason why something does not perform as expected... and then the initial post led them on to believe that escalation of something to break balance with other systems is the answer?
*sigh*

I'm startin to think that the main problem is not the HMG, but the Heavy suit itself. A little buff over the HMG would be nice but i think the problem lies elsewhere.

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A lot of guys try to play heavy as new players thinking it will buy them time till they learn the game better. But the reality is no matter what suit you have you need to learn the game or youll get exposed.

Its not an insult. There are just so many people who take this game very seriously.

A lot of guys try to play heavy as new players thinking it will buy them time till they learn the game better. But the reality is no matter what suit you have you need to learn the game or youll get exposed.

Its not an insult. There are just so many people who take this game very seriously.

Are you attempting to insinuate that are you superior?

I do well with HMGs...

Just saying suits dont buy wins.
Complaining about suits is a new player thing imo.

I'm sorry, what? Have you seen the current Amarr Sentinel bonuses? The feedback damage reduction affects exactly zero of the two existing heavy weapons. And the reload speed bonus, while technically beneficial, is so small that it barely does anything to the incredibly long reload times of heavy weapons, and also has nothing to do with the alleged role of infantry-tank.

Complaining about suits when they're not designed well is a logical person thing, in my opinion.

I dont know if you can drag logic into this. This game is a concept. Its someones idea of interstellar war. If one faction or suit type is preffered less or performs poorly than others then that is the intent of the concept. Wanting something to be something it isnt is not logical. But I must concede I dont know how guys walking around with miniguns are not just straight up obliterating people with rifles.

Just saying suits dont buy wins.
Complaining about suits is a new player thing imo.

More or less. You have a few solutions.


A) Normalize RPM to 3000, get rid of Burst variant. Easy solution, gives the gun more DPS overall and keeps the Burst from being affected in an incredibly broken way.

OR

B) Allow secondary fire to spin up the HMG well in advance. CCP would despise this solution as it requires more work from them.

OR


C) Leave the weapon as it is and basically double the fat suits effective HP (by giving it resistance per level or just a massive HP buff). If it can survive longer then theoretically it has time to actually rev up his gun. By doing this however, you would also have to remove the abiltiy for heavy suits to use Light weapons (besides commando) as the Fat Man would clearly be the absolute best suit for any rifle out there.


Those are the viable choices as I see it.

.... I think you've got the wrong guy

I dont know if you can drag logic into this. This game is a concept. Its someones idea of interstellar war. If one faction or suit type is preffered less or performs poorly than others then that is the intent of the concept. Wanting something to be something it isnt is not logical. But I must concede I dont know how guys walking around with miniguns are not just straight up obliterating people with rifles.

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Heat build up damage isn't a big enough problem to require a bonus for in the world of heavies. Hell, feedback damage is a bad bonus for any suit simply because you NEVER want to let a gun fully overheat unless you need that last bullet to get a kill.

It's always nice to read reasonable statements on these forums, so thanks for that. Although, it might be just a little bit disheartening that the person you effectively wrote this to will probably be able to understand, at most, about 10% of it.




There's a minor problem with this. For those who don't know, overheating the HMG doesn't actually cause any damage. It just locks you out of doing basically anything. So right now, the Sentinel bonus does literally nothing for Sentinels, unless they just happen to choose to use laser or scrambler rifles. Yea.....nice try CCP....

Really, as a bonus, feedback damage reduction should never exist. It would only be useful at near 100% reduction and only for the worst players on the planet.

.... I think you've got the wrong guy

lol maybe. you used to run solo a bit or with this lady that was in SyNergy and for the life of me I can't remember.. maybe Zaria? I usually remember names pretty well but i'll take your word on it. it was weird because it was a couple months ago and I used to run into you every other match. It could have been a name like Hiruko too. my bad, no logi love for you then haha.