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8213 Grade No.2 318	Posted - 2013.10.03 05:54:00 - [1] - Quote This is getting a little out of hand... People waiving their scanners around lighting up people they didn't even know were there. Logi's getting 2000 WP and going 0/10 w/ 0 Objectives touched. Some guy sitting shotgun in my tank getting no kills but mooching off of my assists. I know everyone has there role, but you might as well call them Idiot Points, because there is no skill/talent in obtaining them in high results anymore...
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 1481	Posted - 2013.10.03 05:55:00 - [2] - Quote 8213 wrote: This is getting a little out of hand... People waiving their scanners around lighting up people they didn't even know were there. Logi's getting 2000 WP and going 0/10 w/ 0 Objectives touched. Some guy sitting shotgun in my tank getting no kills but mooching off of my assists. I know everyone has there role, but you might as well call them Idiot Points, because there is no skill/talent in obtaining them in high results anymore... maby, we can get a full 6 man squad who just roles around to scan ppl...
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2048	Posted - 2013.10.03 05:56:00 - [3] - Quote New episodes of Epic Rap Battle of History coming out Oct 7th. Just sayin.
demonkiller 12 G.U.T.Z 238	Posted - 2013.10.03 05:56:00 - [4] - Quote as someone pointed out to me, those scanned are only visible to the scanners squad
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1324	Posted - 2013.10.03 06:01:00 - [5] - Quote I don't get it... Logis are support class and when the role is done right, their help is invaluable to the team. Love your Logi...
8213 Grade No.2 318	Posted - 2013.10.03 06:06:00 - [6] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: I don't get it... Logis are support class and when the role is done right, their help is invaluable to the team. Love your Logi... We all love our Logis, but they don't have to be in harms way. They are only as good as their team is bad. They can throw their Uplinks, revive, and heal people all day long, and they get rewarded for it more than the people who are on the ground doing the fighting and taking the objectives. I logi myself, its an easy way to farm WP without having to really do anything, especially anything that takes even a minute of skill
8213 Grade No.2 318	Posted - 2013.10.03 06:11:00 - [7] - Quote demonkiller 12 wrote: as someone pointed out to me, those scanned are only visible to the scanners squad I know. But it's still a braindead way to obtain SP. You just stand there and waive it back and forth over the entire map and pick up people.
Epicsting pro Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 293	Posted - 2013.10.03 06:14:00 - [8] - Quote Scanner have a up to 50wp cap with in 10sec cap and a cool down period. You can't farm that easy with it. Now flux grenade destroying equipment that were it at.
Vicious Minotaur Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 231	Posted - 2013.10.03 06:18:00 - [9] - Quote 8213 wrote: demonkiller 12 wrote: as someone pointed out to me, those scanned are only visible to the scanners squad I know. But it's still a braindead way to obtain SP. You just stand there and waive it back and forth over the entire map and pick up people. Many of the ways in which WP is obtained are braindead. See: Uplinks, Repair Tool, Nanohive, Hacking, Assault Rifling... Scanning does not necessarily stray from the norm in that regard.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 647	Posted - 2013.10.03 06:23:00 - [10] - Quote 8213 wrote: This is getting a little out of hand... People waiving their scanners around lighting up people they didn't even know were there. Logi's getting 2000 WP and going 0/10 w/ 0 Objectives touched. Some guy sitting shotgun in my tank getting no kills but mooching off of my assists. I know everyone has there role, but you might as well call them Idiot Points, because there is no skill/talent in obtaining them in high results anymore... I am not liking the new WP mechanic of dropping the entire field so full of hives, my FPS takes a dive and my gun starts having troubles shooting because the game engine cannot keep up with all the objects taking up calculations. The last 3 games yesterday featured locations full of equipment, there should be a check in place or something for excesive stuff littering.

Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 227	Posted - 2013.10.03 06:34:00 - [11] - Quote 8213 wrote: This is getting a little out of hand... People waiving their scanners around lighting up people they didn't even know were there. Logi's getting 2000 WP and going 0/10 w/ 0 Objectives touched. Some guy sitting shotgun in my tank getting no kills but mooching off of my assists. I know everyone has there role, but you might as well call them Idiot Points, because there is no skill/talent in obtaining them in high results anymore... You are an idiot. Let me get that out of the way first and foremost. Now to the point. Logi's getting 2000 war points means they are dropping ammo for you to kill, they are dropping uplinks for you to spawn on when you die, means they are doing something productive to earn you an orbital to change the course of the battle for better or worse (hardly ever for worse). I don't care if all you do in a match is just "wave your scanner" because that means that I can see everything around me. So please just go around scanning and forget killing. In fact from what I've seen tonight my squad of 6 killed 96 clones out of 150 and we lost because the rest of our team lost 133 clones. Some people went 0/25!!!!! If you do nothing else just scan so we can do the killing for you. And lastly, for you idiots (in particular the guy who started this senseless QQ post) please keep driving your cars so we can continue to swarm and forge you down for being MORE than useless. You're not scanning anything. You're not killing anything (anymore), you're simply DRIVING around annoying EVERYONE that you run into. Stop that. Be productive and stop complaining about others that are earning war points.
8213 Grade No.2 318	Posted - 2013.10.03 06:37:00 - [12] - Quote Cenex Langly wrote: 8213 wrote: This is getting a little out of hand... People waiving their scanners around lighting up people they didn't even know were there. Logi's getting 2000 WP and going 0/10 w/ 0 Objectives touched. Some guy sitting shotgun in my tank getting no kills but mooching off of my assists. I know everyone has there role, but you might as well call them Idiot Points, because there is no skill/talent in obtaining them in high results anymore... You are an idiot. Let me get that out of the way first and foremost. Now to the point. Logi's getting 2000 war points means they are dropping ammo for you to kill, they are dropping uplinks for you to spawn on when you die, means they are doing something productive to earn you an orbital to change the course of the battle for better or worse (hardly ever for worse). I don't care if all you do in a match is just "wave your scanner" because that means that I can see everything around me. So please just go around scanning and forget killing. In fact from what I've seen tonight my squad of 6 killed 96 clones out of 150 and we lost because the rest of our team lost 133 clones. Some people went 0/25!!!!! If you do nothing else just scan so we can do the killing for you. And lastly, for you idiots (in particular the guy who started this senseless QQ post) please keep driving your cars so we can continue to swarm and forge you down for being MORE than useless. You're not scanning anything. You're not killing anything (anymore), you're simply DRIVING around annoying EVERYONE that you run into. Stop that. Be productive and stop complaining about others that are earning war points. I won't lie. As soon as I read the the part where you think Orbitals Change the course of a battle, I chalked you up as a scrub and stopped reading... Orbitals are only cool to those who have never obtained them. They don't do jack sh!t 98& of the time.
General John Ripper TeamPlayers EoN. 2854	Posted - 2013.10.03 06:37:00 - [13] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: New episodes of Epic Rap Battle of History coming out Oct 7th. Just sayin. know who vs who?
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 227	Posted - 2013.10.03 06:38:00 - [14] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: 8213 wrote: demonkiller 12 wrote: as someone pointed out to me, those scanned are only visible to the scanners squad I know. But it's still a braindead way to obtain SP. You just stand there and waive it back and forth over the entire map and pick up people. Many of the ways in which WP is obtained are braindead. See: Uplinks, Repair Tool, Nanohive, Hacking, Assault Rifling... Scanning does not necessarily stray from the norm in that regard. Those scanned ARE VISIBLE TO EVERYONE ON THE MAP EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT IN YOUR SQUAD. I thank all you blueberries that scan continuously for letting me see who is around me.
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 227	Posted - 2013.10.03 06:40:00 - [15] - Quote 8213 wrote: Cenex Langly wrote: 8213 wrote: This is getting a little out of hand... People waiving their scanners around lighting up people they didn't even know were there. Logi's getting 2000 WP and going 0/10 w/ 0 Objectives touched. Some guy sitting shotgun in my tank getting no kills but mooching off of my assists. I know everyone has there role, but you might as well call them Idiot Points, because there is no skill/talent in obtaining them in high results anymore... You are an idiot. Let me get that out of the way first and foremost. Now to the point. Logi's getting 2000 war points means they are dropping ammo for you to kill, they are dropping uplinks for you to spawn on when you die, means they are doing something productive to earn you an orbital to change the course of the battle for better or worse (hardly ever for worse). I don't care if all you do in a match is just "wave your scanner" because that means that I can see everything around me. So please just go around scanning and forget killing. In fact from what I've seen tonight my squad of 6 killed 96 clones out of 150 and we lost because the rest of our team lost 133 clones. Some people went 0/25!!!!! If you do nothing else just scan so we can do the killing for you. And lastly, for you idiots (in particular the guy who started this senseless QQ post) please keep driving your cars so we can continue to swarm and forge you down for being MORE than useless. You're not scanning anything. You're not killing anything (anymore), you're simply DRIVING around annoying EVERYONE that you run into. Stop that. Be productive and stop complaining about others that are earning war points. I won't lie. As soon as I read the the part where you think Orbitals Change the course of a battle, I chalked you up as a scrub and stopped reading... Orbitals are only cool to those who have never obtained them. They don't do jack sh!t 98& of the time. The moment you started typing you became an idiot like the person who started this thread. Orbitals can change the course of battle and often do with every single domination. See: Bridge Map, if you have any questions.
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 227	Posted - 2013.10.03 06:42:00 - [16] - Quote 8213 wrote: Michael Arck wrote: I don't get it... Logis are support class and when the role is done right, their help is invaluable to the team. Love your Logi... We all love our Logis, but they don't have to be in harms way. They are only as good as their team is bad. They can throw their Uplinks, revive, and heal people all day long, and they get rewarded for it more than the people who are on the ground doing the fighting and taking the objectives. I logi myself, its an easy way to farm WP without having to really do anything, especially anything that takes even a minute of skill And this is why you are in a non-competitive corporation and no one knows or even cares who you are.
8213 Grade No.2 318	Posted - 2013.10.03 06:55:00 - [17] - Quote Cenex Langly wrote: 8213 wrote: Michael Arck wrote: I don't get it... Logis are support class and when the role is done right, their help is invaluable to the team. Love your Logi... We all love our Logis, but they don't have to be in harms way. They are only as good as their team is bad. They can throw their Uplinks, revive, and heal people all day long, and they get rewarded for it more than the people who are on the ground doing the fighting and taking the objectives. I logi myself, its an easy way to farm WP without having to really do anything, especially anything that takes even a minute of skill And this is why you are in a non-competitive corporation and no one knows or even cares who you are. Dude, you're so angry... Sorry, I can't be like you and join a popular corporation and hang on their coat tails without having to actually contribute to anything. If I didn't know better, I'd say you're taking this game way to seriously.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1808	Posted - 2013.10.03 06:59:00 - [18] - Quote you know your own squad has to kill the scanned target for WP right? and if your not in a squad you get no WP for it.
Timothy Reaper WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL 430	Posted - 2013.10.03 07:00:00 - [19] - Quote 8213 wrote: People waiving their scanners around lighting up people they didn't even know were there. This may be a little off topic, but isn't that the whole idea behind scanning? Most logis I know earn their points by keeping their team in the fight, but there's no denying that there are people who drop all their stuff at the supply depot then switch to a cheap suit. So instead of just complaining, let's come up with some fair solutions. For drop uplinks, make it so they will not activate within x meters of each other. If you place your uplink down too close to an active uplink, yours will remain inactive until the other uplink is destroyed. For nanohives, make it so their distribution fields cannot overlap (supply depots included), with a possible exception for an ammo only /armor only combination. Most good logis do this anyway, because if you pile everything in one spot all it takes is one Precision Strike or a couple of flux grenades to clear your team's equipment. As for useless gunners, I've been saying since closed beta that we need ejector seats.
Vicious Minotaur Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 231	Posted - 2013.10.03 07:21:00 - [20] - Quote Cenex Langly wrote: Vicious Minotaur wrote: 8213 wrote: demonkiller 12 wrote: as someone pointed out to me, those scanned are only visible to the scanners squad I know. But it's still a braindead way to obtain SP. You just stand there and waive it back and forth over the entire map and pick up people. Many of the ways in which WP is obtained are braindead. See: Uplinks, Repair Tool, Nanohive, Hacking, Assault Rifling... Scanning does not necessarily stray from the norm in that regard. Huh? Colloquial use of the term braindead may differ from area to area, but I took it as pertaining to non-usage of the brain. The items I listed don't really require much use of the brain in order to use them to earn WP, just like (soon to be) Active scanners.

ryo sayo mio Algintal Core Gallente Federation 24	Posted - 2013.10.03 07:35:00 - [21] - Quote Cenex Langly wrote: 8213 wrote: Cenex Langly wrote: 8213 wrote: This is getting a little out of hand... People waiving their scanners around lighting up people they didn't even know were there. Logi's getting 2000 WP and going 0/10 w/ 0 Objectives touched. Some guy sitting shotgun in my tank getting no kills but mooching off of my assists. I know everyone has there role, but you might as well call them Idiot Points, because there is no skill/talent in obtaining them in high results anymore... You are an idiot. Let me get that out of the way first and foremost. Now to the point. Logi's getting 2000 war points means they are dropping ammo for you to kill, they are dropping uplinks for you to spawn on when you die, means they are doing something productive to earn you an orbital to change the course of the battle for better or worse (hardly ever for worse). I don't care if all you do in a match is just "wave your scanner" because that means that I can see everything around me. So please just go around scanning and forget killing. In fact from what I've seen tonight my squad of 6 killed 96 clones out of 150 and we lost because the rest of our team lost 133 clones. Some people went 0/25!!!!! If you do nothing else just scan so we can do the killing for you. And lastly, for you idiots (in particular the guy who started this senseless QQ post) please keep driving your cars so we can continue to swarm and forge you down for being MORE than useless. You're not scanning anything. You're not killing anything (anymore), you're simply DRIVING around annoying EVERYONE that you run into. Stop that. Be productive and stop complaining about others that are earning war points. I won't lie. As soon as I read the the part where you think Orbitals Change the course of a battle, I chalked you up as a scrub and stopped reading... Orbitals are only cool to those who have never obtained them. They don't do jack sh!t 98& of the time. The moment you started typing you became an idiot like the person who started this thread. Orbitals can change the course of battle and often do with every single domination. See: Bridge Map, if you have any questions. A good squad in dom can save up 2-3 orbitals and with only one hackable point controls the rest of the match just try to hack it back and see what happens.
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 688	Posted - 2013.10.03 07:43:00 - [22] - Quote 8213 wrote: This is getting a little out of hand... People waiving their scanners around lighting up people they didn't even know were there. ^^ This right here.
General John Ripper TeamPlayers EoN. 2856	Posted - 2013.10.03 08:08:00 - [23] - Quote I love my X ray goggles
Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 1960	Posted - 2013.10.03 09:42:00 - [24] - Quote demonkiller 12 wrote: as someone pointed out to me, those scanned are only visible to the scanners squad and a 6 man scanning squad would do nothing. Those scanned units need to be killed by a squad mate within X time to get the 15 points or whatever it was.
Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 1961	Posted - 2013.10.03 09:55:00 - [25] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: 8213 wrote: This is getting a little out of hand... People waiving their scanners around lighting up people they didn't even know were there. ^^ This right here. Isn't that what scanners do though? Like the point of them or the idea of scanning for things in general.?/.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1662	Posted - 2013.10.03 11:00:00 - [26] - Quote 8213 wrote: This is getting a little out of hand... People waiving their scanners around lighting up people they didn't even know were there. Logi's getting 2000 WP and going 0/10 w/ 0 Objectives touched. Some guy sitting shotgun in my tank getting no kills but mooching off of my assists. I know everyone has there role, but you might as well call them Idiot Points, because there is no skill/talent in obtaining them in high results anymore... 2000wp & 0 kills is a f*cking good logi. STFU HTFU Etc.
843 Epidemic Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 204	Posted - 2013.10.03 11:04:00 - [27] - Quote yeah, ***** logis. What next, they're going to repair my armour and get points off of it? ** that! I mean, lol, they might as well just give me ammo while they're at it hahaha That would be so NOT what logis are meant to be doing, they're meant to go around killing everything!! Oh, wait. Dumbass.
Cosgar ParagonX 5610	Posted - 2013.10.03 11:12:00 - [28] - Quote You **** and moan when logis get kills and now you do the same when they get more incentive to use equipment. When the hell is this ignorance going to end?
virgindestroyer7 Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 180	Posted - 2013.10.03 11:16:00 - [29] - Quote someone should start a forum thread list of all the people who complain about logis, then when they see them in game or when they are in squad with them don't offer them logi support. i'm a logi and squad with killers all the time. they tell me all the time how appreciative they are to be in a squad with a good logi because i give them ammo, give them spawn uplinks in relevant spots and rep them constantly so they STAY ALIVE. I don't get those points for free, someone has to spawn on my uplink, or refill on my ammo, or take damage to their armor for me to GET the points.
S Park Finner DUST University Ivy League 309	Posted - 2013.10.03 11:23:00 - [30] - Quote War Points for scanning and equipment destruction are in 1.5 -- deployed on the 8th -- so those two things are not earning WP right now. We don't know for certain what the impact will be.



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