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KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
782
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Posted - 2013.10.03 11:24:00 -
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8213 wrote: -- snip hypocritical statements from a QQ Kitten -- Then farm WP and do your stinking job without QQ for Pete's Sake!
The Logi is the most crapped on role in DUST. First we got lots of WP. Then most of them were removed. Eventually the only way to get back above half way on the results was to Kill Reds.
Next the QQ Kittens started in about Logis shouldn't have weapons. Not ARs anyway, only something to slap wrists with. We don't like Logis stealing Kills or using the Suits to gain any advantage. So guess what happened ... again!
Now CCP/Shanghai removed all the information on the HUD forcing the use of Scanners which removed 50% of WP for many Logis. While you believe that doing their job is doing nothing. I would love to see your work reviews in the real world.
What you are really complaining about is Proto Logi gear. Tough. It exists, it works and it generates WP. Because it cost huge amounts of SP and ISK to get it. Same thing applies to every single system in this game from Snipers to Forge Gunners. Welcome to life and death down in the DUST.
Join the Cheese of the Month Club. Then you will have something to go with your Whine.
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1108
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Posted - 2013.10.03 11:46:00 -
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8213 wrote:This is getting a little out of hand...
People waiving their scanners around lighting up people they didn't even know were there. Logi's getting 2000 WP and going 0/10 w/ 0 Objectives touched. Some guy sitting shotgun in my tank getting no kills but mooching off of my assists.
I know everyone has there role, but you might as well call them Idiot Points, because there is no skill/talent in obtaining them in high results anymore...
Now I have hylighted the bitchyest part of your argument/statement here. Do not hate on the logis when im running heavy and have my dedicated logibro (Markofdeath) behund me I ralrly loose a suit even if im going 20/20 (exagerated score). And he will often run with a verry negative kd but will often top the leaderboards in wp because he is a dam good logi who will drop ammo/triage hives and drop uplinks at all engagement points also he will die 90% of the time with either a nanite injector or repair tool in hand .
Thus rant of mine is the product of all the reacent logi hate from tryhards who get but hurt becuse they think that going 23/0 is more importent than keeping team mates in the fight. This rant is a counter but hurt rant and a massive thanks to our dedicated logibros not murderlogis .
Our dedicated logibros keep my clones in action save me suits and keep plenty of ammmo at my side without them ..... as a heavy its not worth fighting. Peace out and keep up the good work logibros.
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
3257
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Posted - 2013.10.03 11:51:00 -
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8213 wrote:This is getting a little out of hand...
People waiving their scanners around lighting up people they didn't even know were there. Logi's getting 2000 WP and going 0/10 w/ 0 Objectives touched. Some guy sitting shotgun in my tank getting no kills but mooching off of my assists.
I know everyone has there role, but you might as well call them Idiot Points, because there is no skill/talent in obtaining them in high results anymore...
Tactics are OP. |
Toby Flenderson
research lab The Superpowers
66
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Posted - 2013.10.03 12:02:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:I don't get it...
Logis are support class and when the role is done right, their help is invaluable to the team. Love your Logi...
I know right? I don't understand why people are complaining about logis not getting a lot of kills but still earning points. Would they rather the logis also go 20/0? It's their job to keep people alive and supported not to kill people. |
A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
371
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Posted - 2013.10.03 12:08:00 -
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8213 wrote:Cenex Langly wrote:8213 wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I don't get it...
Logis are support class and when the role is done right, their help is invaluable to the team. Love your Logi... We all love our Logis, but they don't have to be in harms way. They are only as good as their team is bad. They can throw their Uplinks, revive, and heal people all day long, and they get rewarded for it more than the people who are on the ground doing the fighting and taking the objectives. I logi myself, its an easy way to farm WP without having to really do anything, especially anything that takes even a minute of skill And this is why you are in a non-competitive corporation and no one knows or even cares who you are. Sorry, I can't be like you and join a popular corporation and hang on their coat tails without having to actually contribute to anything.
Ummmmm ...... That would be founder and CEO of Darklegion Cenex Langly. |
Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
336
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Posted - 2013.10.03 12:08:00 -
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new? |
Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
336
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Posted - 2013.10.03 12:09:00 -
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8213 wrote:This is getting a little out of hand...
People waiving their scanners around lighting up people they didn't even know were there. Logi's getting 2000 WP and going 0/10 w/ 0 Objectives touched. Some guy sitting shotgun in my tank getting no kills but mooching off of my assists.
I know everyone has there role, but you might as well call them Idiot Points, because there is no skill/talent in obtaining them in high results anymore... perhaps your logi my logi gets plenty of kills..and us high roller pull much much more than 2k wp |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
1058
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Posted - 2013.10.03 12:12:00 -
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team deploys and incentives to win woul solve all these problems for people in corps...
also scanners are awesome |
broonfondle majikthies
Bannana Boat Corp
282
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Posted - 2013.10.03 12:12:00 -
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Actually in the 'New Age of Farming' I'm hoping to finally be able to get points for my actual role and not moonlight as a logi |
J Falcs
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
125
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Posted - 2013.10.03 12:21:00 -
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In a 6-man squad that stays together, you really don't need more than one scanner (although a case can be said for a second squadmate carrying the more specialized scanners, i.e., 15 db and 200m range versions).
I do agree that there needs to be a limit to the uplinks though. As to how to do that, I have no idea. |
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Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1133
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Posted - 2013.10.03 12:22:00 -
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Some people just don't seem to get how critical the logistics role is to winning a match. Many times I've joined a battle on a team that is about to get redlined in skirmish with hardly any shields left on our MCC. I pull out my uplink logi fit, sneak around the enemy team (solo, not in a squad) and put down 3 to 4 uplinks in concealed / hard to get to spots. Then I switch to a medic / ammo fit as the enemy team suddenly finds that my blueberries are spawning behind them and taking all the points.
Because I placed my uplinks carefully they don't get destroyed, and the enemy focuses on hacking the control points back. But they can't stop us from spawning and rehacking. Next thing you know it's their team that is getting redlined. It wasn't my GEK that made this happen, it was the uplinks.
*This is really just a pub match thing, PC is fast and brutal enough that you don't really have time to get clever with placing links. |
Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
238
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Posted - 2013.10.03 12:34:00 -
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I think it's important to have 5-10 fast uplinks on the ground to keep the fight going.
I also think it's important to fortify supply depots/objectives with triage/ammo nanohives so your team has a higher chance of successfully defending them.
If I'm the only one skilled into them and dropping them, then why should I be ridiculed for earning WP? Anyone else on my team could have skilled into these and deployed them, gaining points for themselves and evening out the distribution of WP earnings from equipment. The fact that few people do just goes to show that despite the WP rewards, many people do not want to invest effort into skilling up a support role character. |
Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
1968
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Posted - 2013.10.03 12:44:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:8213 wrote:This is getting a little out of hand...
People waiving their scanners around lighting up people they didn't even know were there. Logi's getting 2000 WP and going 0/10 w/ 0 Objectives touched. Some guy sitting shotgun in my tank getting no kills but mooching off of my assists.
I know everyone has there role, but you might as well call them Idiot Points, because there is no skill/talent in obtaining them in high results anymore... 2000wp & 0 kills is a f*cking good logi. STFU HTFU Etc.
WP are meant to represent that you've contributed to the team's victory
If I'm flying a std DS, M-CRU, dropping people off to hack, scanning, repairing vehicles and installations, picking up and moving infantry, providing support by lending my two turrets to infantry to use as guns
I should not get as much WP as somebody who's sniping on a hill? That's a lot of effort btw. And all if it is useful if not vital.
The idea that somebody can get 2000WP and have zero kills is unacceptable to you how?
Why? Explain why that is bad? WP should only be for kills? Wattt? |
Justice Prevails
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2013.10.03 12:53:00 -
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Don't see what the big deal is.
I am between corps right now. So not squadding up as much. Means I'm usually on the losing end of stompings. (Which my ego can handle) I drop uplinks at the beginning of each skirm or dom for many reasons:
#1 help the team(hopefully those poor heavies) #2 in case I die hacking. #3 points. Takes the sting out of the whooping I just got.
Also will drop them after getting redlined. So you stompers don't get bored. (For me that's worse than getting stomped.
I would rather have guys spamming uplinks then thinking about creative ways to afk. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1663
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Posted - 2013.10.03 13:19:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:8213 wrote:This is getting a little out of hand...
People waiving their scanners around lighting up people they didn't even know were there. Logi's getting 2000 WP and going 0/10 w/ 0 Objectives touched. Some guy sitting shotgun in my tank getting no kills but mooching off of my assists.
I know everyone has there role, but you might as well call them Idiot Points, because there is no skill/talent in obtaining them in high results anymore... 2000wp & 0 kills is a f*cking good logi. STFU HTFU Etc. WP are meant to represent that you've contributed to the team's victory If I'm flying a std DS, M-CRU, dropping people off to hack, scanning, repairing vehicles and installations, picking up and moving infantry, providing support by lending my two turrets to infantry to use as guns I should not get as much WP as somebody who's sniping on a hill? That's a lot of effort btw. And all if it is useful if not vital. The idea that somebody can get 2000WP and have zero kills is unacceptable to you how? Why? Explain why that is bad? WP should only be for kills? Wattt?
Are you replying to what I said, or what the OP said?
If it's the former, you might benefit from reading my post again. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2054
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Posted - 2013.10.03 13:25:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:New episodes of Epic Rap Battle of History coming out Oct 7th.
Just sayin. know who vs who? Nope, good chance it involves Darth Vader and Adolf H. again. |
Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
750
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Posted - 2013.10.03 13:26:00 -
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Truths have been spoken here. |
Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
1970
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Posted - 2013.10.03 13:30:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:8213 wrote:This is getting a little out of hand...
People waiving their scanners around lighting up people they didn't even know were there. Logi's getting 2000 WP and going 0/10 w/ 0 Objectives touched. Some guy sitting shotgun in my tank getting no kills but mooching off of my assists.
I know everyone has there role, but you might as well call them Idiot Points, because there is no skill/talent in obtaining them in high results anymore... 2000wp & 0 kills is a f*cking good logi. STFU HTFU Etc. WP are meant to represent that you've contributed to the team's victory If I'm flying a std DS, M-CRU, dropping people off to hack, scanning, repairing vehicles and installations, picking up and moving infantry, providing support by lending my two turrets to infantry to use as guns I should not get as much WP as somebody who's sniping on a hill? That's a lot of effort btw. And all if it is useful if not vital. The idea that somebody can get 2000WP and have zero kills is unacceptable to you how? Why? Explain why that is bad? WP should only be for kills? Wattt? Are you replying to what I said, or what the OP said? If it's the former, you might benefit from reading my post again. OP my bad
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1663
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Posted - 2013.10.03 13:35:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:8213 wrote:This is getting a little out of hand...
People waiving their scanners around lighting up people they didn't even know were there. Logi's getting 2000 WP and going 0/10 w/ 0 Objectives touched. Some guy sitting shotgun in my tank getting no kills but mooching off of my assists.
I know everyone has there role, but you might as well call them Idiot Points, because there is no skill/talent in obtaining them in high results anymore... 2000wp & 0 kills is a f*cking good logi. STFU HTFU Etc. WP are meant to represent that you've contributed to the team's victory If I'm flying a std DS, M-CRU, dropping people off to hack, scanning, repairing vehicles and installations, picking up and moving infantry, providing support by lending my two turrets to infantry to use as guns I should not get as much WP as somebody who's sniping on a hill? That's a lot of effort btw. And all if it is useful if not vital. The idea that somebody can get 2000WP and have zero kills is unacceptable to you how? Why? Explain why that is bad? WP should only be for kills? Wattt? Are you replying to what I said, or what the OP said? If it's the former, you might benefit from reading my post again. OP my bad
Oh phew. I thought reading comprehension had realy fallen through the floor there.
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
286
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Posted - 2013.10.03 13:56:00 -
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8213 wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I don't get it...
Logis are support class and when the role is done right, their help is invaluable to the team. Love your Logi... We all love our Logis, but they don't have to be in harms way. They are only as good as their team is bad. They can throw their Uplinks, revive, and heal people all day long, and they get rewarded for it more than the people who are on the ground doing the fighting and taking the objectives. I logi myself, its an easy way to farm WP without having to really do anything, especially anything that takes even a minute of skill
Iv been a logi since beta and this right here is golden, Logis who can't kill proficiently are useless.
I cannot stand Logis riding the medic train to mask how useless they really are, they die as soon as the bullets start flying. |
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Cenex Langly
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
234
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Posted - 2013.10.03 18:56:00 -
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8213 wrote: Dude, you're so angry...
Sorry, I can't be like you and join a popular corporation and hang on their coat tails without having to actually contribute to anything.
If I didn't know better, I'd say you're taking this game way to seriously.
My apologies if I may seem angry. I'm tired of reading posts of people that have no idea they are in a hardcore competitive game. Yes, this is hardcore because of the cost associated with losing. Yes, this is competitive because profit lies in the territory one controls. So YES, I take this game seriously because I want to win and I want to see my group of friends win.
Because you don't know who I am you have made a comment that insinuates that I leech off of my corp mates and ride off of their name. As it turns out, I'm one of the founding members of our corporation and our alliance and I play a crucial role in keeping our extremely successful group together. I take pride in our success and in our failures and yes we've had many of both. Every member in our corporation has earned their way into our group and has contributed in some way to our success. Otherwise they would not be in our group.
If you want to be successful in this game and in any hardcore competitive game like this one you must take it seriously, at least while you play. That means stopping your QQ threads and stop crying about what is unfair and figure out waits to beat it. That also means looking at game mechanics in new ways and figuring out how to use them to your advantage. This implies you take it seriously. This also implies that you join a serious corporation; a corporation that wants to compete. |
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