then you sir have bad memory, i've never seen kalante go sub 20 in PC and even in chromosome kalante was one of the greatest. only reason he wasn't recognized as one is because e never talked and ddn't really care for recognition. the people saying he is only now good are delusional. Kalante has ALWAYS been and will ALWAYS be a beast. im going to have to convince him to throw up some of his scores and videos post-chrome and after.

he easily takes the cake for #1 player in the game.. period.

then you sir have bad memory, i've never seen kalante go sub 20 in PC and even in chromosome kalante was one of the greatest. only reason he wasn't recognized as one is because e never talked and ddn't really care for recognition. the people saying he is only now good are delusional. Kalante has ALWAYS been and will ALWAYS be a beast. im going to have to convince him to throw up some of his scores and videos post-chrome and after.

he easily takes the cake for #1 player in the game.. period.

Well yeah kalente's clearly a very skilled player but I myself have only faced him 2-3x Like i said : raping face at this point means v. Little w/ PC matches feeling more like pub stomps than competitive matches. I'd never heard of him until kujo told me he was a beast & as you know HS's one of the only corps N-F never faced in PC. I think having those 20-40 kill games are only relevant if it was vs an equally skilled corp. How often is kalente dropping 30+ kills on the losing side of a battle? You can't really say he's the best to ever play dust w/o a doubt when kalente has only been thought of as a great player by anyone outside of HS since all the talent left the game.

Facts are this conversation is over and rampage trolling with the insinuations HS was ever a top 5 team in dust is lolz as previously stated they never played the best pfbhz had to offer, and the team they played was like AE playing TP's in the tourney. They hadn't been playing for weeks, never had a single match with even half the team being a-team and the lag in pc then was lolz which made scouts undeniably OP. Trolololing will be ignored on that topic. Everyone involved knows the truth.


I have Kalente on the losing side for AE and he was sub 20 kills. I think he had 13. I had 11. Regnyum had 18.

Regnyum > Kalente until I see a thunderdome match otherwise. You can speak all you want about how good Kalente is and I happen to agree he's #3, #2 AR. but Alldin being in the top 5 for practically every role INCLUDING COMMANDO > Kalente being #2 in ar (#1 if I see a thunderdome upset against Regnyum.) Hit him up cause until...I'm not buying. Although I am paying...lemme get on dust since I'm home now :P

I will say this Kalente did drop like 27 kills in the win he played against us on a district about a month ago...but that was when all we had left of our a-team fought them with general john ripper and reiselia combining over 2 games for like 2.5k wp's and like 15kills to 45 deaths.

Kalente must play Regnyum for the official title. All is speculation until then.

^^This needs to happen.. kalante. ReGnYuM. thunder dome.

i have a feeling this whole conversation will always be biased and one-sided but hey, it was fun while it lasted. i love remaking this thread for the lulz and i will probobly make this an every 6 month event... 8v8 PFBHz won twice and with reason PFBHz easily had the best 8v8 team in the game. but we all knew coming into 16v16 they had an issue which was exploited by HS.



wait... im getting paid?

Did you know that Kujo himself admitted that despite PFBHz definitely being creamed (although the games with 2 exceptions *both of which I didn't play one on Satuday, one on Tuesday(?)* were always close), we actually got the district down to 11 clones but this was before they fixed OB's as well and 3 of ours did nothing Kujo actually admitted here in a thread that if the clones had been 150 v 150, HS would have been cloned in 2 of the battles? 2-7 battles had clones been equal. THat's worthy of mention. I'm logging on now to pay you :P

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This this post. Sorry Bethy but I completely disagree. Unreal never was a powerhouse of talent the way Outer.Heaven was. Even seraphim had more talent than unreal. Imps > all other for talent. PFB >all other next to Outer.Heaven and Imps in talent.

All time talent in one place Imho:

Imps
Outer.Heaven
PFBHz
TP's
AE

Hellstorm never had that much depth, hence using OH and ML ringers (including shutterfly) during the PFB war.

Now Hellstorm + PFB influx including gizmo and angel had more depth, about 20 solid players. but never nearly as much as TP's, AE, OH, PFBHz, or Imps.

I can easily name 30 players from each of those corps off the top of my head. name 30 players from Hellstorm pre PFB influx...

Sorry Never lost to O.H under Sponge or Chaos.. don't think I did in AE either. Maybe Biased? meh...

Remember NG lost about 10 or more of our A-team to OH as well as some other corp's due to Radar's charm

Hellstorm during League of infamy yah..they even banned us from using contact nades and flaylocks... So... speaks loads.. ahahah I remember Chaos dieing to a contact nade and everyone of us pulled out flaylock's and we got like a total of a 68 mails by the end of the match between all of us.

But Hellstorm was a threat coming into PC it was consensus around the alliance not for any single squad but for their depth. You can just look around and see who came out of it and who is even still there.

Unreal is simple. And anyone around those day's knew's they had the best up coming talent in DUST... This was a very active time, so a lot of players where still around. Obviously there was still corp battle numbers for competition but it was a very active time for DUST. Their players can be tracked across influential Corp's and politic's and top 5's on most Merc's list's for their respective class's.

Their record will stand the test of time for a long time. The ability to win matches even against your top's was uncanny.

SI yet again... We fought them for almost 2 month's straight before we had a loss to them. When we finally did it was a mix of A-Team players from SI, WTF, GAC... during their TZ. so.. biased?.. yes. cant help my opinion.( and that was a good match they deserved the win, GG guys)

i was in betamax during the cronos war so... yeah, i was there.

So many of our orbitals were worthless. I remember dropping 1 on C with at least half Hellstorms team on it and getting like 1 kill. It would have won us the match had it worked imo.

We all remember, don't we? Those still around can attest to the throwback truth's I'm dropping for the general public to digest.

PFBHz > everyone because I was pink and fluffy!!

Best corp names of the most competitive corps

1: Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
2: Imperfects
3: Seraphim Initiative
4: What The French
5: Murder Cakes of Doom


AE, SyN, Red*, Cafe, Not Guilty, Pure Innocence, BHD, KEQ, ML, WR's, SI, MCC, Betamax, OSG, GM, SD, none of these lame corps had a really cool ass name. Even TeamPlayers is just lame compared to my list.

We all remember, don't we? Those still around can attest to the throwback truth's I'm dropping for the general public to digest.

PFBHz > everyone because I was pink and fluffy!!

Best corp names of the most competitive corps

1: Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
2: Imperfects
3: Seraphim Initiative
4: What The French
5: Murder Cakes of Doom


AE, SyN, Red*, Cafe, Not Guilty, Pure Innocence, BHD, KEQ, ML, WR's, SI, MCC, Betamax, OSG, GM, SD, none of these lame corps had a really cool ass name. Even TeamPlayers is just lame compared to my list.

We all remember, don't we? Those still around can attest to the throwback truth's I'm dropping for the general public to digest.

PFBHz > everyone because I was pink and fluffy!!

Best corp names of the most competitive corps

1: Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
2: Imperfects
3: Seraphim Initiative
4: What The French
5: Murder Cakes of Doom


AE, SyN, Red*, Cafe, Not Guilty, Pure Innocence, BHD, KEQ, ML, WR's, SI, MCC, Betamax, OSG, GM, SD, none of these lame corps had a really cool ass name. Even TeamPlayers is just lame compared to my list.

See you defend Unreals talent using their records once Unreal was dead and gone....and not what they themselves accomplished while the players were there's.

O.H. had tons of talented players. but were never in the top 3 corps of dust.

Hellstorm never had depth and I ask for proof that they did. If you can name 25 talented players they had to draw from pre pfbhz influx I'll change my opinion but I know they didn't have depth, they had a very concerted amount of talent in about 10 players.

Underline 1: Where is this coming from? are you challenging O.H. placement on my list of talent because they lost battles?
Number of talent does not mean they had a winning record. far from it, despite their talent O.H. has never become what their talent should warrant they could have.

You can look at pfbhz and imps and find more of their talent around influencing the top 5 in their positions than you can unreal. no doubt. Unreal had 10 excellent players.

Imps and O.H. and PFBHz had many many many more.

25? Hmm... Me, obi, kujo, soul, kalante, gem, broadway, bigboi, pun, undead, mark, Phoenix, maple, squagga, that one dual flaylock guy, Kira, Lipton, maestro, serious issues, that one FG we had... Umm cant remember, symbiotic forks, appia. Monkey, RL , Not 25 :(

But Did TP have 25 before the PFB influx? If so who?

See you defend Unreals talent using their records once Unreal was dead and gone....and not what they themselves accomplished while the players were there's.

O.H. had tons of talented players. but were never in the top 3 corps of dust.

Hellstorm never had depth and I ask for proof that they did. If you can name 25 talented players they had to draw from pre pfbhz influx I'll change my opinion but I know they didn't have depth, they had a very concerted amount of talent in about 10 players.

Underline 1: Where is this coming from? are you challenging O.H. placement on my list of talent because they lost battles?
Number of talent does not mean they had a winning record. far from it, despite their talent O.H. has never become what their talent should warrant they could have.

You can look at pfbhz and imps and find more of their talent around influencing the top 5 in their positions than you can unreal. no doubt. Unreal had 10 excellent players.

Imps and O.H. and PFBHz had many many many more.

25? Hmm... Me, obi, kujo, soul, kalante, gem, broadway, bigboi, pun, undead, mark, Phoenix, maple, squagga, shilzy, Kira, Lipton, maestro, serious issues, that one FG we had... Umm cant remember, symbiotic forks, appia. Monkey, RL , Not 25 :( Hey Scotty Jesus Man

But Did TP have 25 before the PFB influx? If so who?

25? Hmm... Me, obi, kujo, soul, kalante, gem, broadway, bigboi, pun, undead, mark, Phoenix, maple, squagga, fundies, Kira, Lipton, maestro, serious issues, that one FG we had... Umm cant remember, symbiotic forks, appia. Monkey, RL , Not 25 :(

But Did TP have 25 before the PFB influx? If so who?

Cubs, HT, Imagio, Deluxe, Hellsreaper, Exergonic, Draka, Zhiga, Anto, Reaper2, Enialis, Ragna, Fiddle, Doc DDD, mcfurious, patti, shacknasty, osiris, evicer, percules, and i'm forgetting 3 names, their all brothers that play. 19 off the top of my head and that's just the ones i remember playing in pc matches. 23 total. Before the pfb influx. I didn't count puffin nugs or ultimate g either. that'd be 25

Symbiotic, appia, and big boi all came after the pfb breakup. and the forger might be ender wiggin, however he wasn't an original either.

total of 20 for you I count. more than I thought, but not great depth. Not compared to OH, Imps, or PFBHz, I can name easily 30 off the top of my head, and can look up about 20 more for each corp. 50 pc ready folks that could compete for each.

25? Hmm... Me, obi, kujo, soul, kalante, gem, broadway, bigboi, pun, undead, mark, Phoenix, maple, squagga, fundies, Kira, Lipton, maestro, serious issues, that one FG we had... Umm cant remember, symbiotic forks, appia. Monkey, RL , Not 25 :(

But Did TP have 25 before the PFB influx? If so who?

25? Hmm... Me, obi, kujo, soul, kalante, gem, broadway, bigboi, pun, undead, mark, Phoenix, maple, squagga, fundies, Kira, Lipton, maestro, serious issues, that one FG we had... Umm cant remember, symbiotic forks, appia. Monkey, RL , Not 25 :(

But Did TP have 25 before the PFB influx? If so who?

Not really what I said about unreal, Took a minimal point about their legitimacy today and ran with it. Glad you at least accept the nice round number of 10 players as excellent.

O.H had amazing potential.. I believe Hellstorm had more. I'm not alone in this. That isn't an opinion I formed today... it's what I had at the time knowing the talent.. But I think you kinda counter point'ed yourself about O.H and top 3?

And no.. Radar could make any corporation work, I won't ever count them out till I see "corporation closed" with sad eye's and would be looking for their remake.

Cubs, HT, Imagio, Deluxe, Hellsreaper, Exergonic, Draka, Zhiga, Anto, Reaper2, Enialis, Ragna, Fiddle, Doc DDD, mcfurious, patti, shacknasty, osiris, evicer, percules, and i'm forgetting 3 names, their all brothers that play. 19 off the top of my head and that's just the ones i remember playing in pc matches. 23 total. Before the pfb influx. I didn't count puffin nugs or ultimate g either. that'd be 25

Symbiotic, appia, and big boi all came after the pfb breakup. and the forger might be ender wiggin, however he wasn't an original either.

total of 20 for you I count. more than I thought, but not great depth. Not compared to OH, Imps, or PFBHz, I can name easily 30 off the top of my head, and can look up about 20 more for each corp. 50 pc ready folks that could compete for each.

your forgetting HeyScotty, Dr.Spazz, angel, KA24DERT, MagLives, Lord Brew III, DJINN JUR, Punisher Pre-running people over, GetShotUp, Orlando Rez, Angel Sunshine,

that's 25 or so.. right?

Cubs, HT, Imagio, Deluxe, Hellsreaper, Exergonic, Draka, Zhiga, Anto, Reaper2, Enialis, Ragna, Fiddle, Doc DDD, mcfurious, patti, shacknasty, osiris, evicer, percules, and i'm forgetting 3 names, their all brothers that play. 19 off the top of my head and that's just the ones i remember playing in pc matches. 23 total. Before the pfb influx. I didn't count puffin nugs or ultimate g either. that'd be 25

Symbiotic, appia, and big boi all came after the pfb breakup. and the forger might be ender wiggin, however he wasn't an original either.

total of 20 for you I count. more than I thought, but not great depth. Not compared to OH, Imps, or PFBHz, I can name easily 30 off the top of my head, and can look up about 20 more for each corp. 50 pc ready folks that could compete for each.

I guess neither of us had great depth :/

we can all agree PRO had the most untapped potential. :D i mean for all we know there could have been 10 almightys in there and we wouldn't know cause they were trained by no one. XD