There's no doubt protoman > the rest. Alldin's the best player on dust atm followed closely by kalente & reg. For best to ever play Almighty, metro, soul & reflex deserve a mention.

this entire thread is rather silly. You are trying to compare corps that dominated at different times.

Zdub said it well, but you are attempting to compare Marciano to Ali to Tyson

all the BEST in their time.

now we all speculate who would be the best if they all faced each other in their prime, so its pure speculation.

you can use random facts, like bunnies beat TEAM once, or TEAM beat Imps once, etc etc.

or you can sit back and look at the reign of each corp at the top of their game and attempt to compare.

For me this is not an easy task, as I have seen most come up and go down in succession.

I would still agree as it stands, Imps were #1 ( in a different time and place we might have challenged that, but there was no overlap in our times so the world will never know. I have them the ranking by default as there is nothing to prove it otherwise).

I would say TEAM was #2. we had a high learning curve, and our early loss to Bunnies was a catalyst for our fast-track to success. They dominated most the match, yet we came back and made it close. learned a lot in 20 minutes that helped shape the next 3 1/2 months. We beat Imps (lets face it, it was technically Imps, but not their A team. I faced their A team with STB so I can make such statements) Flat out BEAT down all other teams we faced. SI and WTF would occasionally bring good matches, and O.H. with their FOTM flaylocks always kept things interesting. We never faced SyN nor RND A team, but AE/HS whatnot... close also during FOTM flaylock and always good matches, but were controlled almost all the time (bridge map excluded as you definitely hold the head to head advantage on that 1 map)

Ahrendee is the obvious #3 imo. They dominated everyone and held it down for a good amount of time. Them along with SyN often get overlooked because TEAM took center stage in EoN. all the while they dominated all their opponents.

Based on the rest, I would say the current AE has displayed the dominance of 1 and 2, however in a time where competition level is at an all time low, so its difficult to judge, but they are deserving of top 5.

and the final spot is a huge tossup. O.H. is deserving of mention, as well as SI. Yes believe it or not at their peak SI was a top 5 corp. EU lag the reason why? poor excuse for everyone and you know it. When they were at the top of their game and peak activity Seraphim was a force that could never be overlooked. The other would be Synergy, who at their peak were as equally dominant as any on the list.


Others that would round out a 'top 10' would be WTF, Pro Hic and likely KEQ or Red Star

keep in mind this ranking is based on gameplay since uprising dropped (5/14)

Is still not a good ranking because even in uprising we have gone through 'phases' and FOTM weapons that many teams have adapted into their gameplay and helped them be more dominant than they normally would.

AE currently has the most active numbers of the higher-tier players, and thus have reached the top.

but AE doesn't dominate.. really anyone. Sure they dominate the team with an average of 5M SP/person, but then again so does all other established corps.

so considering them #1 on any 'all-time' list is just biased to anyone who says it.

they are #1 NOW, and thus in the short history of this game many will place them in that 'top 5' all time

either way October 2013 AE is on top

well, i think there is only one true way to settle this since their is obviously some doubts with the tourney.

CUBS get your A-team on and we'll get ours (That is WITH Kalante this time ;)) and we'll see who truely holds the #1 spot once and for all. i think this is fair and should happen. it's all in good fun and will put everyone's opinion to rest since obviously both sides of this conversation are SUPER biased.

and saying protoman is the best player of all time. although he was good and i mean really good he wasn't better than ReGnYuM. and although reg was really good, he was no where near kalante. and im 100% positive that kalante is #1 in the game in both tactics and gun game. i've seen kalante v. regnyum 1v1 in chrome and... it was no competition. that is with the huge skill point gap advantage ReGnYuM had.

good luck with that, 20% of my guys have deleted dust to make room for their BF4 beta.

as I said.. there is no way to ever know, so good luck getting people off other games they enjoy. Running a crew for over 7 years now has taught me 1 thing, you cant force people to get on a certain game and play, they have to want to or you are just wasting everyone's time

where you get 'biased'? read my post I already told you that right now, you guys are #1.

as for all-time, a match right now would also mean nothing. It equates to George Foreman at age 40 coming out to fight whilst living in the past...

Regnum is on battlefield, go hit him up :P

this entire thread is rather silly. You are trying to compare corps that dominated at different times.

Zdub said it well, but you are attempting to compare Marciano to Ali to Tyson

all the BEST in their time.

now we all speculate who would be the best if they all faced each other in their prime, so its pure speculation.

you can use random facts, like bunnies beat TEAM once, or TEAM beat Imps once, etc etc.

or you can sit back and look at the reign of each corp at the top of their game and attempt to compare.

For me this is not an easy task, as I have seen most come up and go down in succession.

I would still agree as it stands, Imps were #1 ( in a different time and place we might have challenged that, but there was no overlap in our times so the world will never know. I have them the ranking by default as there is nothing to prove it otherwise).

I would say TEAM was #2. we had a high learning curve, and our early loss to Bunnies was a catalyst for our fast-track to success. They dominated most the match, yet we came back and made it close. learned a lot in 20 minutes that helped shape the next 3 1/2 months. We beat Imps (lets face it, it was technically Imps, but not their A team. I faced their A team with STB so I can make such statements) Flat out BEAT down all other teams we faced. SI and WTF would occasionally bring good matches, and O.H. with their FOTM flaylocks always kept things interesting. We never faced SyN nor RND A team, but AE/HS whatnot... close also during FOTM flaylock and always good matches, but were controlled almost all the time (bridge map excluded as you definitely hold the head to head advantage on that 1 map)

Ahrendee is the obvious #3 imo. They dominated everyone and held it down for a good amount of time. Them along with SyN often get overlooked because TEAM took center stage in EoN. all the while they dominated all their opponents.

Based on the rest, I would say the current AE has displayed the dominance of 1 and 2, however in a time where competition level is at an all time low, so its difficult to judge, but they are deserving of top 5.

and the final spot is a huge tossup. O.H. is deserving of mention, as well as SI. Yes believe it or not at their peak SI was a top 5 corp. EU lag the reason why? poor excuse for everyone and you know it. When they were at the top of their game and peak activity Seraphim was a force that could never be overlooked. The other would be Synergy, who at their peak were as equally dominant as any on the list.


Others that would round out a 'top 10' would be WTF, Pro Hic and likely KEQ or Red Star

keep in mind this ranking is based on gameplay since uprising dropped (5/14)

Is still not a good ranking because even in uprising we have gone through 'phases' and FOTM weapons that many teams have adapted into their gameplay and helped them be more dominant than they normally would.

AE currently has the most active numbers of the higher-tier players, and thus have reached the top.

but AE doesn't dominate.. really anyone. Sure they dominate the team with an average of 5M SP/person, but then again so does all other established corps.

so considering them #1 on any 'all-time' list is just biased to anyone who says it.

they are #1 NOW, and thus in the short history of this game many will place them in that 'top 5' all time

either way October 2013 AE is on top

where you get 'biased'? read my post I already told you that right now, you guys are #1.

as for all-time, a match right now would also mean nothing. It equates to George Foreman at age 40 coming out to fight whilst living in the past...

Regnum is on battlefield, go hit him up :P

Kalante is the guy that drops 30 k/ds in pc.

He went 30-1 vs RNd

40-5 vs SyN with TP ringers

34-5 vs RND again

21-0 vs some random corp I forgot.

23-4 vs TP

Just off the top of my head I remember

when did kalante drop 40-5?

#1 IMPS
#2 HS/AE
#3 TeamPlayers
#4 SI
#5 What The French/GAC/0.H/PFBHz/I.E

lol
PFB > SI, GAC, WTF, OH but also ppl gotta keep in mind PFB never had alot of depth
PFB main problem was playing for e-rep during 8v8s and not playing an giving ppl the cb experience they needed.
Everyone will tell u that we all forsaw PFB running into issues with 16v16 when the same 8-12 ppl always played in their cbs out of a roster of over 200.
When u toss those other ppl in that had minimal to no cb experience into those PC matches it was gonna be problems.

HS did just like IE and SyN did and made sure everyone got rotated for the necessary play time thats why HS was able to take apart PFB in 16v16.

Also considering we dominate SI, WTF, GAC its lulzy to see ppl still overlooking us, quite amusing cuz the WLR between us and SI/WTF/GAC is not even close this is what happens when ppl lackin knowledge of all cbs that happened make assumptions on top 5 corps.

funny thing if ppl knew our record vs some of the corps they always mention im sure their tune will change

I'm still the best player

Idk. Protoman stood out as the greatest when this game had a huge no. Of great slayers. Standing out as a slayer at this point means nothing there's only a handful of good players & v. Few truly great players left. Most of us get between 15-30 kills in PC now so it doesn't mean anything. Regnum, protoman, almighty, alldin & myself have always MVPd w/ loads of kills even when there was actual competition... To get a good KDR in PC at this point is to be expected of slayers. If you were doing it in an AE vs TP battle then maybe. But I only remember me, alldin, regnum & occasionally soul ever dropping 20+ in those fights.

yeah... anyways, PFB over no one. they took one step into PC and got dominated for that very reason while all of the corps you put over them did extremely well.

I have honestly never played against a full team of SyN and that is about 30-40 battles deep against them.

ummm dont think u have ever played 30-40 battles vs us at all.
LoI war wasnt 30-40 battles and never saw u during cronos war so yea that number is a little high cuz if we were fighting 30-40 battles post LoI we'd have alot more districts than the 13 i kept us at.

fact is we didnt attack that much after cronos cuz the ppl in PC would of gotten rolled. only time ppl came out retirement was to fight HS and that ended in 4 days so back to vacation time after that.

good luck with that, 20% of my guys have deleted dust to make room for their BF4 beta.

as I said.. there is no way to ever know, so good luck getting people off other games they enjoy. Running a crew for over 7 years now has taught me 1 thing, you cant force people to get on a certain game and play, they have to want to or you are just wasting everyone's time

Pretty much... The old PC stomping A-team of old has moved on. With the tournament over I don't forsee a lot of people logging back in until Dust has moved to a new platform (be that PS4 or PC).

guess we'll be trillionaires with 100% of molden heath by the time we see you guys again :D

lol
PFB > SI, GAC, WTF, OH but also ppl gotta keep in mind PFB never had alot of depth
PFB main problem was playing for e-rep during 8v8s and not playing an giving ppl the cb experience they needed.
Everyone will tell u that we all forsaw PFB running into issues with 16v16 when the same 8-12 ppl always played in their cbs out of a roster of over 200.
When u toss those other ppl in that had minimal to no cb experience into those PC matches it was gonna be problems.

HS did just like IE and SyN did and made sure everyone got rotated for the necessary play time thats why HS was able to take apart PFB in 16v16.

Also considering we dominate SI, WTF, GAC its lulzy to see ppl still overlooking us, quite amusing cuz the WLR between us and SI/WTF/GAC is not even close this is what happens when ppl lackin knowledge of all cbs that happened make assumptions on top 5 corps.

funny thing if ppl knew our record vs some of the corps they always mention im sure their tune will change

All time talent in one place?
1) Unreal
2)Imperfects
3)Hellstorm - Going into PC... The talent pool they had was immense.. (They didn't have that drive though *semi quote*)
4)Teamplayers - After the assimilation of several A-team players from Eon corp's and out.
5)Ancient Exiles - Cuz im biased ;_;

I've said it to people... When Eon was first getting it's leg's SyN had the rep as the Top corp within alliance. I haven't seen the player names that gave them that rep other then 3-4 for over 3 months.

Even Not Guilty in our prime went 36 matches straight from PC start without a loss, Losses in general when I was there could be counted on one hand for patches and patches. And facing harder PC's then I've fought for month's.

Eon became strong through adversity because we where singled out and attacked from so many directions while engaging the entity that was active during the first come first serve start of PC. We just wanted a place to put our flag at the start and it was like hitting a bee-hive. PC's nonstop from morning until morning everyday for month's...

Teamplayers always had that stable leadership and dedication to DUST that it became a center beacon for people who still wanted to be competitive in DUST while their corporations crumbled around them due to politic's/inactivity.

Much what I've enjoyed through playing with AE is the same as the thrill of Eon in it's early inception. The adversity of being the little guy and coming up, i just wish it was under circumstances where everyone wasn't covered in rust and bitterness of the game to have the level of competition enjoyable again.

This this post. Sorry Bethy but I completely disagree. Unreal never was a powerhouse of talent the way Outer.Heaven was. Even seraphim had more talent than unreal. Imps > all other for talent. PFB >all other next to Outer.Heaven and Imps in talent.

All time talent in one place Imho:

Imps
Outer.Heaven
PFBHz
TP's
AE

Hellstorm never had that much depth, hence using OH and ML ringers (including shutterfly) during the PFB war.

Now Hellstorm + PFB influx including gizmo and angel had more depth, about 20 solid players. but never nearly as much as TP's, AE, OH, PFBHz, or Imps.

I can easily name 30 players from each of those corps off the top of my head. name 30 players from Hellstorm pre PFB influx...