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PFB > SI, GAC, WTF, OH but also ppl gotta keep in mind PFB never had alot of depth
PFB main problem was playing for e-rep during 8v8s and not playing an giving ppl the cb experience they needed.
Everyone will tell u that we all forsaw PFB running into issues with 16v16 when the same 8-12 ppl always played in their cbs out of a roster of over 200.
When u toss those other ppl in that had minimal to no cb experience into those PC matches it was gonna be problems.

HS did just like IE and SyN did and made sure everyone got rotated for the necessary play time thats why HS was able to take apart PFB in 16v16.

Also considering we dominate SI, WTF, GAC its lulzy to see ppl still overlooking us, quite amusing cuz the WLR between us and SI/WTF/GAC is not even close this is what happens when ppl lackin knowledge of all cbs that happened make assumptions on top 5 corps.

funny thing if ppl knew our record vs some of the corps they always mention im sure their tune will change

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This this post. Sorry Bethy but I completely disagree. Unreal never was a powerhouse of talent the way Outer.Heaven was. Even seraphim had more talent than unreal. Imps > all other for talent. PFB >all other next to Outer.Heaven and Imps in talent.

All time talent in one place Imho:

Imps
Outer.Heaven
PFBHz
TP's
AE

Hellstorm never had that much depth, hence using OH and ML ringers (including shutterfly) during the PFB war.

Now Hellstorm + PFB influx including gizmo and angel had more depth, about 20 solid players. but never nearly as much as TP's, AE, OH, PFBHz, or Imps.

I can easily name 30 players from each of those corps off the top of my head. name 30 players from Hellstorm pre PFB influx...

See you defend Unreals talent using their records once Unreal was dead and gone....and not what they themselves accomplished while the players were there's.

O.H. had tons of talented players. but were never in the top 3 corps of dust.

Hellstorm never had depth and I ask for proof that they did. If you can name 25 talented players they had to draw from pre pfbhz influx I'll change my opinion but I know they didn't have depth, they had a very concerted amount of talent in about 10 players.

Underline 1: Where is this coming from? are you challenging O.H. placement on my list of talent because they lost battles?
Number of talent does not mean they had a winning record. far from it, despite their talent O.H. has never become what their talent should warrant they could have.

You can look at pfbhz and imps and find more of their talent around influencing the top 5 in their positions than you can unreal. no doubt. Unreal had 10 excellent players.

Imps and O.H. and PFBHz had many many many more.

25? Hmm... Me, obi, kujo, soul, kalante, gem, broadway, bigboi, pun, undead, mark, Phoenix, maple, squagga, fundies, Kira, Lipton, maestro, serious issues, that one FG we had... Umm cant remember, symbiotic forks, appia. Monkey, RL , Not 25 :(

But Did TP have 25 before the PFB influx? If so who?

Cubs, HT, Imagio, Deluxe, Hellsreaper, Exergonic, Draka, Zhiga, Anto, Reaper2, Enialis, Ragna, Fiddle, Doc DDD, mcfurious, patti, shacknasty, osiris, evicer, percules, and i'm forgetting 3 names, their all brothers that play. 19 off the top of my head and that's just the ones i remember playing in pc matches. 23 total. Before the pfb influx. I didn't count puffin nugs or ultimate g either. that'd be 25

Symbiotic, appia, and big boi all came after the pfb breakup. and the forger might be ender wiggin, however he wasn't an original either.

total of 20 for you I count. more than I thought, but not great depth. Not compared to OH, Imps, or PFBHz, I can name easily 30 off the top of my head, and can look up about 20 more for each corp. 50 pc ready folks that could compete for each.

You beat most people because, like I said, you guys are very skilled. I will never deny that.

But you guys still cheat, and don't correct the behavior, and don't even apologize for it.

You have no integrity, and aren't even feigning a desire for redemption.

Being a good organization is about more than skill, and while I enjoy going up against you on the battlefield, I will never respect you.

Why is ari be significantly worse with a shotty when the shotty requires the same skill set to use? Melee glitching is OP because in other games you cant spam it endlessly while running around faster than everyone else and because the glitching is tied to stamina, which ari augments to have a **** ton, there's no reload. Furthermore melee moves you towards youre opponent slightly as well ad redirecting you to the direction thy are, essentially if you're reliatively close the maleee glitch doesn't even need aim in the direction of the person, where a shotgun to the slight left or right would miss, the melee glitch would hit. Ari also wouldn't be nearly as potent without a scanner, other games don't let you sweep the area the whole game on a 10 sec cooldown. The only way we nuetralized ari in the past was when our og players were on our synergy just overcame the glitching with straight up dedicated comms and people who ran around with scanner's as their primary weapon.

As for everyone always agreeing AE isn't as good all time as TP's? TP's were destroying seraphim and whoever else before I got there. They weren't a top 5 team, but that's why i liked em. I didn't want to bandwagon onto one of the best corps. I wanted something where I went in and helped build something. Pre Regnyum and post bunnies we were amazing, so this whole idea Regnyum came in and made us the best is lol. In the Hellstorm war we would have won without Regnyum, simple as that. He's a great player, but he doesn't carry at all. Xero, Spinner, Zdub, Me, the Shotty Twins, and more. This influx alone was simply the final piece to a team that was already great, just not top tier. Reg just was the best of an already well established slayer core.

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