Is there another FPS that has a roof camper/red line sniping mode that all the cool kids are playing?

If you don't like the game modes that focus on combat to capture objectives play ambush. It's easier for your teammates to pull your dead weight that way.

Like it or not, you're part of the problem--namely, the full squads of players from established corps that come into a game that is otherwise full of default corp players and two or three others from different corps--and then proceed to mop the floor with the poor saps. Originally, this was pretty much restricted to public contracts (in 1.4) but the focus has now shifted over to faction warfare. Hell, I was thrown into one battle on a team with no squads...going against an Amarr side that had a full squad of ShiShi Funjian(sp?) AND a full squad of Teamplayers. It went pretty much how you would expect. Prior to this push towards FW, these battles were great and very well matched, definitely some of the best matches I've been a part of. Now, however, it's become yet another stomping ground for the well-oiled corporate machines. Blame the handful of players that "don't contribute" during the battle...but you should also blame the pubstompers that are only too eager to face off against an opponent that clearly won't provide any sort of challenge (even before the match begins.)

[quote=Thor Odinson42][quote=Spkr4theDead][quote=Thor Odinson42]

Hate to admit it, Odinson, but in my case he is literally correct about you being part of the problem!. I sometimes farm like this (run in, hack objective if I can get there first, drop hives/uplinks and then go snipe or grab a well-located turret for the rest of the match, maybe run out again once or twice to dro more stuff). Not my favorite thing to do, but I need the ISK.

We ran into you guys in FW last week, for example, it was a brutal CQC street fighting bloodbath; you had only 4-5 ticks left on the MCC but cloned us out for the win. We may have lost but that kind of match makes us better. It also makes us (at least me) poor! My ADV suits can't keep up with your proto assaults and freedom mass drivers but the logi equipment I carry ain't cheap. It was a great exhilarating battle and while I got at least 1500 WP and ~300k ISK, I also went 7/12 (maybe worse) and lost about that much net ISK too.

It's very common for me to go negative like that when playing with my corp because of my style of play (tank hunting/ infiltrator logi FTW) and obviously I'm going to go all out when squadded with my corp.

It's not financially sustainable, however, so I need to play some low risk matches to make up for it. So, I lone wolf in some pubs (never FW)... It may not be the most win-oriented play style, but I am at least doing something besides AFK. Gotta pay the bills somehow, hunting protobears is awfully expensive.

Oh, and BTW, Everything Dies, my corp does not require microphones either, as long as you can hear the rest of us and follow our lead, you're good. You are welcome to apply to UNIT. any time. Our information is in my recruitment thread, which, BTW, I need to go bump, I'm slacking off on that...

I've seen you guys in FW. Y'all should swing by PC Team Sync and sync against us.

Morathi, you are trying too hard.

I don't know that your suggestions would stop "WP farming" styles of play; it seems like they'd encourage it if anything.

I'm talking about running around hacking installations, placing some uplinks/nanohives then running to the hills to snipe, roofcamp, or fly dropships around for an entire match.

If a dude is piling up WP from pushing objectives and contributing to a victory then more power to them. I'm talking about getting 1000 WP without really doing much to win the game.

You need to realize capturing objectives is not how you win the game. It's all about the ISKies and WPs. I don't care if the victory screen says VICTORY if I died a bunch and made no money. On the other hand if it says DEFEAT and I didn't die and made tons of ISK I consider that a personal victory. I am a mercenary afterall.

Not saying I actually enjoy the game being like this. Just saying thats the way it is. If you want the objectives to matter than you gotta play PC.

I don't know that your suggestions would stop "WP farming" styles of play; it seems like they'd encourage it if anything.

I'm talking about running around hacking installations, placing some uplinks/nanohives then running to the hills to snipe, roofcamp, or fly dropships around for an entire match.

If a dude is piling up WP from pushing objectives and contributing to a victory then more power to them. I'm talking about getting 1000 WP without really doing much to win the game.