For some reason DROVES of players enter these game modes but play a lone wolf, WP farming style of play that contributes absolutely ZERO to capturing objectives to earn a victory.

I've been telling everyone to stop entering those gamemodes as it will only lead to frustration and more ISK purging than necessary. I've only been playing Ambush and it's 1000x more enjoyable.

I'm not sure what needs to be done. Should ISK payouts be increased to the point that people don't feel the need to conserve dropsuits?? Before you make a comment on killing the ISK economy that is already being done on a much larger scale with the broken mechanics of PC.

-Perhaps give a 2x payout to those who accumulate 1000 WP.
-Double the payout of SP and WP for a victory in Domination and Skirmish.
-0-0 and 0 WP gets ZERO

Any other ideas to get these gamemodes fun again???

For some reason DROVES of players enter these game modes but play a lone wolf, WP farming style of play that contributes absolutely ZERO to capturing objectives to earn a victory.

-Perhaps give a 2x payout to those who accumulate 1000 WP.
-Double the payout of SP and WP for a victory in Domination and Skirmish.
-0-0 and 0 WP gets ZERO

I don't know that your suggestions would stop "WP farming" styles of play; it seems like they'd encourage it if anything.

eh I go through these "modes" as well, I play domination right now, in a month i'll probably be annoyed and bored, and start playing skirmish again, fall in love till I get bored again, then move to ambush after that.

unlike roofer, I actually play to win, because isk has no value to me anymore, seriously I don't care in the slightest if I lose money from a game i'll probably make it back in the long run, or it just really doesn't matter I have plenty of isk.

but ya back on point incentives are important, you should have incentive to encourage players for winning a game, since that is not in place, players don't actively try to win very often.

eh I go through these "modes" as well, I play domination right now, in a month i'll probably be annoyed and bored, and start playing skirmish again, fall in love till I get bored again, then move to ambush after that.

unlike roofer, I actually play to win, because isk has no value to me anymore, seriously I don't care in the slightest if I lose money from a game i'll probably make it back in the long run, or it just really doesn't matter I have plenty of isk.

but ya back on point incentives are important, you should have incentive to encourage players for winning a game, since that is not in place, players don't actively try to win very often.

You need to realize capturing objectives is not how you win the game. It's all about the ISKies and WPs. I don't care if the victory screen says VICTORY if I died a bunch and made no money. On the other hand if it says DEFEAT and I didn't die and made tons of ISK I consider that a personal victory. I am a mercenary afterall.

Not saying I actually enjoy the game being like this. Just saying thats the way it is. If you want the objectives to matter than you gotta play PC.

I'm talking about running around hacking installations, placing some uplinks/nanohives then running to the hills to snipe, roofcamp, or fly dropships around for an entire match.

If a dude is piling up WP from pushing objectives and contributing to a victory then more power to them. I'm talking about getting 1000 WP without really doing much to win the game.

You need to realize capturing objectives is not how you win the game. It's all about the ISKies and WPs. I don't care if the victory screen says VICTORY if I died a bunch and made no money. On the other hand if it says DEFEAT and I didn't die and made tons of ISK I consider that a personal victory. I am a mercenary afterall.

Not saying I actually enjoy the game being like this. Just saying thats the way it is. If you want the objectives to matter than you gotta play PC.

I get lots of WP in battles... but is definitely NOT farming ;

- 200 wp at the star of the battle by hacking 1 objective and a couple of optional's ( Supply Depo, turret, etc )
- About 50-100 WP's at the start of the battle by dropping Up-links with my super fast scout.
- During the battle about 800 wp for kills and kill assist
- Repairing people, up-links and re-hacking objective give me around another 500-600 wp

Total = 1600 / 1800 wp per battle.

In a good battle i can potentially double that amount

For some reason DROVES of players enter these game modes but play a lone wolf, WP farming style of play that contributes absolutely ZERO to capturing objectives to earn a victory.

I've been telling everyone to stop entering those gamemodes as it will only lead to frustration and more ISK purging than necessary. I've only been playing Ambush and it's 1000x more enjoyable.

I'm not sure what needs to be done. Should ISK payouts be increased to the point that people don't feel the need to conserve dropsuits?? Before you make a comment on killing the ISK economy that is already being done on a much larger scale with the broken mechanics of PC.

-Perhaps give a 2x payout to those who accumulate 1000 WP.
-Double the payout of SP and WP for a victory in Domination and Skirmish.
-0-0 and 0 WP gets ZERO

Any other ideas to get these gamemodes fun again???

Stop protostomping. Protostomping has caused people to say f*ck it and run through quick and dirty for kills. Even an organized squad can't win if the other team can run a two for one on kills.

what? someone doesnt play how you like and the game has to change... seriously dude? 1/10

The only thing ive realised with the two on public search, is that once one team holds an objective its game over.

Or once a team red lines the other in under 5 mins then its game over. Another thing ive realised with Domination is the complete lack of self sacrifice, NO-ONE will run in as a squd to get the danger hack off, thus no one is applying pressure and then its a land slide victory!!!

Both of which are VERY boring games to be a part of. Hell ive been telling my guys to LEAVE an objective so we can get some kills and shoot stuff.

FW is where the fun games are at, people dont seem to care about losing the suits to get an objective, this is what we neeed!!!

Guys, you see the vets run proto and whine, yet its the proto guys who put themselves is crappy situations to get the win?!.

Another thing i see vets do is switch to a cheaper fit to get the hack off, a valid and perfect tactic to get in and out and get your team a spawn point NOT behind the red line.

A gypsy gallente basic suits with two enhance hacking mods is a decent suit to run when trying to cap. People need to be trying different suit combos to adapt to the situation in hand.

Totally agree on all points.

We will pull back to our closest point hoping that the other team will go in and hack some objectives. It's utter garbage.

It's nearly impossible to work on any tactics in a pub match. People ask about training and then it's chase the lone brave red dot to see who can kill him first.

-0-0 and 0 WP gets ZERO

Any other ideas to get these gamemodes fun again???

For some reason DROVES of players enter these game modes but play a lone wolf, WP farming style of play that contributes absolutely ZERO to capturing objectives to earn a victory.

I've been telling everyone to stop entering those gamemodes as it will only lead to frustration and more ISK purging than necessary. I've only been playing Ambush and it's 1000x more enjoyable.

I'm not sure what needs to be done. Should ISK payouts be increased to the point that people don't feel the need to conserve dropsuits?? Before you make a comment on killing the ISK economy that is already being done on a much larger scale with the broken mechanics of PC.

-Perhaps give a 2x payout to those who accumulate 1000 WP.
-Double the payout of SP and WP for a victory in Domination and Skirmish.
-0-0 and 0 WP gets ZERO

Any other ideas to get these gamemodes fun again???

Because not all of us like Call of Duty mode.

Team deployment in FW is coming...if that helps.

It can't get here fast enough.