DUST Search - Skirmish and Domination virtually unplayable at the moment

Everything Dies wrote:

Thor Odinson42 wrote:

Spkr4theDead wrote:

Thor Odinson42 wrote:

For some reason DROVES of players enter these game modes but play a lone wolf, WP farming style of play that contributes absolutely ZERO to capturing objectives to earn a victory.

I've been telling everyone to stop entering those gamemodes as it will only lead to frustration and more ISK purging than necessary. I've only been playing Ambush and it's 1000x more enjoyable.

I'm not sure what needs to be done. Should ISK payouts be increased to the point that people don't feel the need to conserve dropsuits?? Before you make a comment on killing the ISK economy that is already being done on a much larger scale with the broken mechanics of PC.

-Perhaps give a 2x payout to those who accumulate 1000 WP.
-Double the payout of SP and WP for a victory in Domination and Skirmish.
-0-0 and 0 WP gets ZERO

Any other ideas to get these gamemodes fun again???

Because not all of us like Call of Duty mode.

Is there another FPS that has a roof camper/red line sniping mode that all the cool kids are playing?

If you don't like the game modes that focus on combat to capture objectives play ambush. It's easier for your teammates to pull your dead weight that way.

Like it or not, you're part of the problem--namely, the full squads of players from established corps that come into a game that is otherwise full of default corp players and two or three others from different corps--and then proceed to mop the floor with the poor saps. Originally, this was pretty much restricted to public contracts (in 1.4) but the focus has now shifted over to faction warfare. Hell, I was thrown into one battle on a team with no squads...going against an Amarr side that had a full squad of ShiShi Funjian(sp?) AND a full squad of Teamplayers. It went pretty much how you would expect. Prior to this push towards FW, these battles were great and very well matched, definitely some of the best matches I've been a part of. Now, however, it's become yet another stomping ground for the well-oiled corporate machines. Blame the handful of players that "don't contribute" during the battle...but you should also blame the pubstompers that are only too eager to face off against an opponent that clearly won't provide any sort of challenge (even before the match begins.)


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John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 144	Posted - 2013.10.01 00:51:00 - [1] - Quote Everything Dies wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: For some reason DROVES of players enter these game modes but play a lone wolf, WP farming style of play that contributes absolutely ZERO to capturing objectives to earn a victory. I've been telling everyone to stop entering those gamemodes as it will only lead to frustration and more ISK purging than necessary. I've only been playing Ambush and it's 1000x more enjoyable. I'm not sure what needs to be done. Should ISK payouts be increased to the point that people don't feel the need to conserve dropsuits?? Before you make a comment on killing the ISK economy that is already being done on a much larger scale with the broken mechanics of PC. -Perhaps give a 2x payout to those who accumulate 1000 WP. -Double the payout of SP and WP for a victory in Domination and Skirmish. -0-0 and 0 WP gets ZERO Any other ideas to get these gamemodes fun again??? Because not all of us like Call of Duty mode. Is there another FPS that has a roof camper/red line sniping mode that all the cool kids are playing? If you don't like the game modes that focus on combat to capture objectives play ambush. It's easier for your teammates to pull your dead weight that way. Like it or not, you're part of the problem--namely, the full squads of players from established corps that come into a game that is otherwise full of default corp players and two or three others from different corps--and then proceed to mop the floor with the poor saps. Originally, this was pretty much restricted to public contracts (in 1.4) but the focus has now shifted over to faction warfare. Hell, I was thrown into one battle on a team with no squads...going against an Amarr side that had a full squad of ShiShi Funjian(sp?) AND a full squad of Teamplayers. It went pretty much how you would expect. Prior to this push towards FW, these battles were great and very well matched, definitely some of the best matches I've been a part of. Now, however, it's become yet another stomping ground for the well-oiled corporate machines. Blame the handful of players that "don't contribute" during the battle...but you should also blame the pubstompers that are only too eager to face off against an opponent that clearly won't provide any sort of challenge (even before the match begins.) Hate to admit it, Odinson, but in my case he is literally correct about you being part of the problem!. I sometimes farm like this (run in, hack objective if I can get there first, drop hives/uplinks and then go snipe or grab a well-located turret for the rest of the match, maybe run out again once or twice to dro more stuff). Not my favorite thing to do, but I need the ISK. We ran into you guys in FW last week, for example, it was a brutal CQC street fighting bloodbath; you had only 4-5 ticks left on the MCC but cloned us out for the win. We may have lost but that kind of match makes us better. It also makes us (at least me) poor! My ADV suits can't keep up with your proto assaults and freedom mass drivers but the logi equipment I carry ain't cheap. It was a great exhilarating battle and while I got at least 1500 WP and ~300k ISK, I also went 7/12 (maybe worse) and lost about that much net ISK too. It's very common for me to go negative like that when playing with my corp because of my style of play (tank hunting/ infiltrator logi FTW) and obviously I'm going to go all out when squadded with my corp. It's not financially sustainable, however, so I need to play some low risk matches to make up for it. So, I lone wolf in some pubs (never FW)... It may not be the most win-oriented play style, but I am at least doing something besides AFK. Gotta pay the bills somehow, hunting protobears is awfully expensive.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 145	Posted - 2013.10.01 00:59:00 - [2] - Quote Oh, and BTW, Everything Dies, my corp does not require microphones either, as long as you can hear the rest of us and follow our lead, you're good. You are welcome to apply to UNIT. any time. Our information is in my recruitment thread, which, BTW, I need to go bump, I'm slacking off on that...
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 145	Posted - 2013.10.01 01:05:00 - [3] - Quote [/quote] Like it or not, you're part of the problem--namely, the full squads of players from established corps that come into a game that is otherwise full of default corp players and two or three others from different corps--and then proceed to mop the floor with the poor saps. Originally, this was pretty much restricted to public contracts (in 1.4) but the focus has now shifted over to faction warfare. Hell, I was thrown into one battle on a team with no squads...going against an Amarr side that had a full squad of ShiShi Funjian(sp?) AND a full squad of Teamplayers. It went pretty much how you would expect. Prior to this push towards FW, these battles were great and very well matched, definitely some of the best matches I've been a part of. Now, however, it's become yet another stomping ground for the well-oiled corporate machines. Blame the handful of players that "don't contribute" during the battle...but you should also blame the pubstompers that are only too eager to face off against an opponent that clearly won't provide any sort of challenge (even before the match begins.)[/quote] Hate to admit it, Odinson, but in my case he is literally correct about you being part of the problem!. I sometimes farm like this (run in, hack objective if I can get there first, drop hives/uplinks and then go snipe or grab a well-located turret for the rest of the match, maybe run out again once or twice to dro more stuff). Not my favorite thing to do, but I need the ISK. We ran into you guys in FW last week, for example, it was a brutal CQC street fighting bloodbath; you had only 4-5 ticks left on the MCC but cloned us out for the win. We may have lost but that kind of match makes us better. It also makes us (at least me) poor! My ADV suits can't keep up with your proto assaults and freedom mass drivers but the logi equipment I carry ain't cheap. It was a great exhilarating battle and while I got at least 1500 WP and ~300k ISK, I also went 7/12 (maybe worse) and lost about that much net ISK too. It's very common for me to go negative like that when playing with my corp because of my style of play (tank hunting/ infiltrator logi FTW) and obviously I'm going to go all out when squadded with my corp. It's not financially sustainable, however, so I need to play some low risk matches to make up for it. So, I lone wolf in some pubs (never FW)... It may not be the most win-oriented play style, but I am at least doing something besides AFK. Gotta pay the bills somehow, hunting protobears is awfully expensive. [/quote] If we cloned you then you were playing. I usually send ISK to guys on the other team who keep pushing for an entire match. If you hunt tanks then you are doing a job. I go negative when I go in tank hunting mode too. Somebody has to do it. This thread is not about noobs, it's about people on MY team, the randoms who don't fight.[/quote] Well, yeah, I'm not ALWAYS the d-bag who's farming from a roof somewhere, my point is that sometimes the midrange players like me have no choice. I'm not going to go begging for charity ISK from my corp, I'm going to go make it myself. Maybe I screw some other players or corps indirectly, but my loyalty is to my corp, not theirs.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 145	Posted - 2013.10.01 01:09:00 - [4] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Everything Dies wrote: [quote=Thor Odinson42][quote=Spkr4theDead][quote=Thor Odinson42] Hate to admit it, Odinson, but in my case he is literally correct about you being part of the problem!. I sometimes farm like this (run in, hack objective if I can get there first, drop hives/uplinks and then go snipe or grab a well-located turret for the rest of the match, maybe run out again once or twice to dro more stuff). Not my favorite thing to do, but I need the ISK. We ran into you guys in FW last week, for example, it was a brutal CQC street fighting bloodbath; you had only 4-5 ticks left on the MCC but cloned us out for the win. We may have lost but that kind of match makes us better. It also makes us (at least me) poor! My ADV suits can't keep up with your proto assaults and freedom mass drivers but the logi equipment I carry ain't cheap. It was a great exhilarating battle and while I got at least 1500 WP and ~300k ISK, I also went 7/12 (maybe worse) and lost about that much net ISK too. It's very common for me to go negative like that when playing with my corp because of my style of play (tank hunting/ infiltrator logi FTW) and obviously I'm going to go all out when squadded with my corp. It's not financially sustainable, however, so I need to play some low risk matches to make up for it. So, I lone wolf in some pubs (never FW)... It may not be the most win-oriented play style, but I am at least doing something besides AFK. Gotta pay the bills somehow, hunting protobears is awfully expensive. If we cloned you then you were playing. I usually send ISK to guys on the other team who keep pushing for an entire match. If you hunt tanks then you are doing a job. I go negative when I go in tank hunting mode too. Somebody has to do it. This thread is not about noobs, it's about people on MY team, the randoms who don't fight. It's one thing going into a FW (where lots of corps sync multiple squads) and backing off if getting completely owned (I wish randoms would stick to pubs). I just want to see incentives for people to lay it all out. If these were real wages for fighting we would have all gone on strike. You'd want to use your best gear to perform every job and you'd expect to be compensated for it. Well, yeah, I'm not ALWAYS the d-bag who's farming from a roof somewhere, my point is that sometimes the midrange players like me have no choice. I'm not going to go begging for charity ISK from my corp, I'm going to go make it myself. Maybe I screw some other players or corps indirectly, but my loyalty is to my corp, not theirs, lol.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 145	Posted - 2013.10.01 01:13:00 - [5] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Oh, and BTW, Everything Dies, my corp does not require microphones either, as long as you can hear the rest of us and follow our lead, you're good. You are welcome to apply to UNIT. any time. Our information is in my recruitment thread, which, BTW, I need to go bump, I'm slacking off on that... I've seen you guys in FW. Y'all should swing by PC Team Sync and sync against us. Hmm... Not sure how masochistic we want to be, but I'll pass it on.! (i'm not playing much for the next 2 weeks b/c I have a board exam coming up)