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James Belar
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.30 12:54:00 -
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With the release of the 30 day passive Omega boosters at 65k AUR, I take it CCP is in some need of some cash. At 65K AUR a pop, the new Omega boosters are a rip off. I am going to stick with the regular boosters at 28k a pop and save myself tons of money. Good going CCP another POS idea in the bag. Keep this up and the next time you will be selling the Omega boosters at 100k AUR to make up for the lost revenue. |
Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention Caldari State
521
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Posted - 2013.09.30 12:56:00 -
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65k is original price though, 30day one during Fanfest was discounted as far as I remember and they said that? |
Hellkeizer
The Avutora Complex
125
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Posted - 2013.09.30 12:58:00 -
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Yea not getting one, it's not worth it |
DS 10
Will Ring For Booze
991
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Posted - 2013.09.30 12:58:00 -
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James Belar wrote:With the release of the 30 day passive Omega boosters at 65k AUR, I take it CCP is in some need of some cash. At 65K AUR a pop, the new Omega boosters are a rip off. I am going to stick with the regular boosters at 28k a pop and save myself tons of money. Good going CCP another POS idea in the bag. Keep this up and the next time you will be selling the Omega boosters at 100k AUR to make up for the lost revenue.
I was going to get one today, but never mind |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1683
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Posted - 2013.09.30 12:58:00 -
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So this thread is what happens when a person with obsessive compulsive disorder that must have everything also happens to have a sense of principles regarding money.
You know, normal people just don't buy the booster. |
Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention Caldari State
521
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Posted - 2013.09.30 12:59:00 -
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Active one has great price. Passive is just for afkers anyway. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
1024
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:00:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:So this thread is what happens when a person with obsessive compulsive disorder that must have everything also happens to have a set of principles regarding money.
You know, normal people just don't buy the booster.
normal people have jobs. |
Lucifalic
Baked n Loaded
105
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:16:00 -
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Hahaha are they really 65k??? I was going to get some but not at that price. My god that is ridiculous |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
1524
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:19:00 -
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Sylvana Nightwind wrote:Active one has great price. Passive is just for afkers anyway.
I find that logic odd considering the passive gives out the same amount of SP to everyone.
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
1102
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:22:00 -
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I remember when I got a 30 day omega passive booster for like $20 or less. If it's more than that, then LOL.... NO.
Geez.. It's not like I'm playing. I would have dropped maybe $20 not to play, (cause I can. And I'll be playing gta online) But not more.
Trying to show sony dust is still worth having on? huh ccp? |
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
1028
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:24:00 -
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meh some people will still buy these, and they will progress alot faster because of it.
end of the day I don't really care, I mean I don't have the highest sp of any player in this game, and I never will. It's not a race anymore I'm just laying to progress and because of that omega boosters aren't for me. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
1280
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:25:00 -
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A 30-day omega passive booster is a 720,000 SP gain for $32
A standard passive booster is a 360,000 SP gain.
... is $32 worth it? Not sure. |
Buttercup Chipmint
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:28:00 -
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CCP is still trying to push this as a P2Get ahead game. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1357
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:30:00 -
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Lol, SMH
I don't have words to describe the stupidity of this. |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1003
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:32:00 -
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Quote:CCP is still trying to push this as a P2Get ahead game. Roll
Why not? It's already a "Wait to get ahead" game. I mean really. If I fight against people who got some SP due to Omega Boosters or if I fight against people who have 20 Million SP because they played since Beta? What's the difference. Contrary to Eve Online I at least have a chance to catch up. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
1029
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:32:00 -
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Buttercup Chipmint wrote:CCP is still trying to push this as a P2Get ahead game.
better then pay to win ^^
regardless if you don't like them don't get them, once you hit 22+ mil it really doesn't matter anymore anyway. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
6519
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:37:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Quote:CCP is still trying to push this as a P2Get ahead game. Roll Why not? It's already a "Wait to get ahead" game. I mean really. If I fight against people who got some SP due to Omega Boosters or if I fight against people who have 20 Million SP because they played since Beta? What's the difference. Contrary to Eve Online I at least have a chance to catch up. You can never catch up, but youre welcome to spend your hard earned cash if it makes you feel otherwise.
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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1529
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:40:00 -
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It is you fault..really.. you and all that people that have been screaming for the Omega Boosters. In CCP eyes, if you want to have it so badly you will pay any ridiculous amount of money. |
The Terminator T-1000
The Praetorian Legionary
52
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:41:00 -
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How much is the 7 day active? |
Protected Void
STRONG-ARMED BANDITS Public Disorder.
101
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:43:00 -
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James Belar wrote:With the release of the 30 day passive Omega boosters at 65k AUR, I take it CCP is in some need of some cash. At 65K AUR a pop, the new Omega boosters are a rip off. I am going to stick with the regular boosters at 28k a pop and save myself tons of money. Good going CCP another POS idea in the bag. Keep this up and the next time you will be selling the Omega boosters at 100k AUR to make up for the lost revenue.
Good for you, congratulations. Luckily, this game isn't an extortion racket, so that decision is entirely up to you. |
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Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
1281
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:45:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:Buttercup Chipmint wrote:CCP is still trying to push this as a P2Get ahead game. better then pay to win ^^ regardless if you don't like them don't get them, once you hit 22+ mil it really doesn't matter anymore anyway. Confirmed. This is for new to mid-tier chars. I'm at a point where as a 25mil Cal Logi primary with 14mil just in dropsuit upgrades, AR Prof V, AUR proto min & cal assaults and proto SMGs and Swarms... I'm just trying to figure out what to do with SP. Get LLAVs and assault dropships on this char just for throwaway PC transport?
is it worth it to push kincat to V to gain something like .04m/s run speed on a scout suit just for the the beginning of PC matches? Hmmmm.... will cost something like 726,000 SP to go from III to V and the AUR I would spend on a single omega booster (720,000 SP boost) is enough to keep me stocked on AUR proto kincats for a lifetime.
Same goes for AUR proto suits - would cost something like 180,000 AUR to gain SP from passive boosters to push from advanced level to proto level on a dropuit ... that's a lot of AUR proto dropsuits considering the racial suit bonuses suck ****.
yeh. |
steadyhand amarr
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
1430
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:46:00 -
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This is a good example of player view being vastly diffrent to market data as EA discovered you can make more money by getting fewer players to pay more money they are happy to part with. Don't like it don't buy it. |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1004
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:46:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Quote:CCP is still trying to push this as a P2Get ahead game. Roll Why not? It's already a "Wait to get ahead" game. I mean really. If I fight against people who got some SP due to Omega Boosters or if I fight against people who have 20 Million SP because they played since Beta? What's the difference. Contrary to Eve Online I at least have a chance to catch up. You can never catch up, but youre welcome to spend your hard earned cash if it makes you feel otherwise.
Of course you can catch up. Because with playing you make more SP than somebody who isn't. With using boosters you make more SP than somebody who doesn't use them. And when you hit 20 Mio SP I think many people stop using boosters anyways. I still had 150k Aurum on my character. I now spent it on Omega Boosters instead of going with my 1,5x Booster Plan. When these boosters run out I won't buy new ones because I have to save money.
Banning Hammer wrote:It is you fault..really.. you and all that people that have been screaming for the Omega Boosters. In CCP eyes, if you want to have it so badly you will pay any ridiculous amount of money.
They were always this expensive. They just were discounted during Fanfest.
The Terminator T-1000 wrote:How much is the 7 day active?
17,500 Aurum. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
1282
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:49:00 -
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Sylvana Nightwind wrote:Active one has great price. Passive is just for afkers anyway. Play alts weds, thurs, friday (or OMGWTF NOOOOOO.... do something besides Dust).
Activate active omega on a Saturday afternoon. It now gives you boost for 2 weeks of cap.
~185,000 cap per week, so the above would give you a 370,000 SP boost for the price of a single active omega. I haven't seen the prices on them, but as long as they are less than half the cost of a passive omega, it is more value for your money if you are active. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
1282
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:52:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:This is a good example of player view being vastly diffrent to market data as EA discovered you can make more money by getting fewer players to pay more money they are happy to part with. Don't like it don't buy it. CCP: The Ferrari of F2P |
LudiKure ninda
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
23
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Posted - 2013.09.30 13:54:00 -
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Holy **** 65k aurum
That is way to much |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
3943
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Posted - 2013.09.30 14:07:00 -
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I might be more inclined to buy one of these if the game had more content in it. Just sayin'.
Also, I don't think it's because Dust needs money, since Eve is its sugar daddy for now. Might just be testing the waters to see how desperate we are for SP. |
M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
106
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Posted - 2013.09.30 14:07:00 -
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Guess that's the cost that CCP set to not play their game, sorry CCP I'd rather spend $20 on GTA V micro transactions and have fun in an actuall MMO, not this broken lobby shooter.... |
James Belar
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.09.30 14:25:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Of course you can catch up. Because with playing you make more SP than somebody who isn't. With using boosters you make more SP than somebody who doesn't use them. And when you hit 20 Mio SP I think many people stop using boosters anyways. I still had 150k Aurum on my character. I now spent it on Omega Boosters instead of going with my 1,5x Booster Plan. When these boosters run out I won't buy new ones because I have to save money.
Five Months of Regular Booster at 150k AUR: 5,400,000 Two Months of Omega Booster at 150k AUR: 2,880,000
The difference is 2,520,000 of just using the regular boosters
How is that saving money? It might be saving time, but nowhere near saving money. I really hope you did not just buy two months of omegas. You could have been set for five months of regular boosters.
As a player, I was really stoked about the re-release of Omegas. I thought the price of one Omega was going to be around 42 to 48k AUR. When I saw that they were over-priced, I was disappointed.
M McManus wrote: Guess that's the cost that CCP set to not play their game, sorry CCP I'd rather spend $20 on GTA V micro transactions and have fun in an actuall MMO, not this broken lobby shooter....
Good Point. Good thing that GTAV online comes out tomorrow.
GTAV has made more money in 1 day than CCP will ever make in one lifetime.
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Guinevere Bravo
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
413
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Posted - 2013.09.30 14:32:00 -
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HOLY SH!T
Well i now have the choice of finishing my character in one month or two... HMMMMMM. |
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
429
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Posted - 2013.09.30 14:35:00 -
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James Belar wrote:With the release of the 30 day passive Omega boosters at 65k AUR, I take it CCP is in some need of some cash. At 65K AUR a pop, the new Omega boosters are a rip off. I am going to stick with the regular boosters at 28k a pop and save myself tons of money. Good going CCP another POS idea in the bag. Keep this up and the next time you will be selling the Omega boosters at 100k AUR to make up for the lost revenue.
For me it's about whether I buy fake drugs or the real ones. |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
830
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Posted - 2013.09.30 14:43:00 -
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Best Investment:
3 day Active Boosters 3500 ISK ~95,000 additional SP a week |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1006
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Posted - 2013.09.30 14:50:00 -
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James Belar wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Of course you can catch up. Because with playing you make more SP than somebody who isn't. With using boosters you make more SP than somebody who doesn't use them. And when you hit 20 Mio SP I think many people stop using boosters anyways. I still had 150k Aurum on my character. I now spent it on Omega Boosters instead of going with my 1,5x Booster Plan. When these boosters run out I won't buy new ones because I have to save money. Five Months of Regular Booster at 150k AUR: 5,400,000 Two Months of Omega Booster at 150k AUR: 2,880,000 The difference is 2,520,000 of just using the regular boosters How is that saving money? It might be saving time, but nowhere near saving money. I really hope you did not just buy two months of omegas. You could have been set for five months of regular boosters.
I never said anything about saving money. |
Canaan Knute
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
143
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Posted - 2013.09.30 14:57:00 -
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Here's some math for players thinking of purchasing a 7-Day Omega-Booster:
Active SP per week: 190,400 Active SP per week with 7-Day Active Booster (7,000 AUR): 285,600 Active SP per week with 7-Day Active Omega-Booster (17,500 AUR): 380,800
Here's what you get when you use an active booster over two weeks:
Active SP with 7-Day Active Booster: 571,200 Active SP with 7-Day Active Omega-Booster: 761,600
Now here's where things get interesting: you can buy two normal boosters (571,200 x 2 = 1,142,400 SP) for the price of one Omega-Booster (761,000 SP).
Conclusion: you get more SP at a lower price with normal active boosters. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1771
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Posted - 2013.09.30 15:02:00 -
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hey CCP can we raise the price up just a bit more. i feel like you made this one too low. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
6520
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Posted - 2013.09.30 15:04:00 -
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These boosters are like....specifically for try hards >_<
Why in fucks name would you spend 17,500 AUR for a week of 2x SP when you could spend 3,500 AUR for 3 days of 1.5x SP....it really ONLY benefits players who've been buying boosters non stop and never don't cap.
Lmao this game sometimes
Smh |
Ryme Intrinseca
Seraphim Auxiliaries
82
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Posted - 2013.09.30 15:18:00 -
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I think the omega boosters are at the right price. It was messed up that, at the previous (fanfest) price, the premium (omega) booster was actually better value on an SP per dollar basis than the regular booster. That meant there was no choice to be had between the two - if you could afford the omega at all, you'd better get it.
With these prices, there is a genuine choice. Personally, I went for the omega booster, because I would sooner have more SP in, say, one month rather than in two months, when I will have probably maxed out my role and SP will mean less to me. But those who are willing to delay gratification and buy two regular boosters for the same price (with change) get better value in the long run. Can't see anything wrong with that. |
Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack
490
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Posted - 2013.09.30 15:18:00 -
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65k!!! WOW. Are they out of their minds??
At 36k you could make a case for getting it. But it's DEFINITELY NOT worth 65k. Pass thank you very much. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1772
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Posted - 2013.09.30 15:21:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Best Investment:
3 day Active Boosters 3500 ISK ~95,000 additional SP a week your investment cost time... how valuable it is to you? |
Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1790
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Posted - 2013.09.30 15:36:00 -
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Good thing there's a black market for organs.
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2354
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Posted - 2013.09.30 15:45:00 -
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When you think about it, a normal 30 day booster is 28,000 AUR. The omega 30 day booster gives twice as much extra SP as the normal booster, so you expect it's at least double more, so price it at 56,000 AUR. But then you take into consideration that you are getting these points a full month faster than if you were to just buy two normal 30 day boosters at that price, so add a 9,000 AUR convenience fee and BAM! 65,000 AUR.
I didn't like it at first, but it makes sense and is reasonable. Also no, there is no chance in hell I am buying one. |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1009
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Posted - 2013.09.30 15:51:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:When you think about it, a normal 30 day booster is 28,000 AUR. The omega 30 day booster gives twice as much extra SP as the normal booster, so you expect it's at least double more, so price it at 56,000 AUR. But then you take into consideration that you are getting these points a full month faster than if you were to just buy two normal 30 day boosters at that price, so add a 9,000 AUR convenience fee and BAM! 65,000 AUR.
I didn't like it at first, but it makes sense and is reasonable. Also no, there is no chance in hell I am buying one.
I too think it's reasonable. If you don't like it you can still buy normal boosters or no boosters at all. |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
754
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:02:00 -
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These prices would only make sense to me if they weren't a limited time thing. |
RydogV
Shadow Company HQ
398
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:02:00 -
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James Belar wrote:M McManus wrote: Guess that's the cost that CCP set to not play their game, sorry CCP I'd rather spend $20 on GTA V micro transactions and have fun in an actuall MMO, not this broken lobby shooter.... Good Point. Good thing that GTAV online comes out tomorrow. GTAV has made more money in 1 day than CCP will ever make in one lifetime.
I will be playing both games, easily. So it is not really a choice of one over the other.
To be fair, GTAV was in development by a huge studio for five years. They have also been iterating on the same style of gameplay since the first GTA. This is the first FPS for CCP Games. A lot of players seem to want Dust 514 to be of GTA (or insert any other AAA title) quality in only a fraction of the time, with only a fraction of the resources. It helps to put things into perspective.
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PADDEHATPIGEN
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
65
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:19:00 -
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They are to expensive.
For 65 K AUR. I can get boht an active and a passive of normal 30 day boosters, and i would even have 9 K AUR left to spend on some fun. |
low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
570
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:23:00 -
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James Belar wrote:With the release of the 30 day passive Omega boosters at 65k AUR, I take it CCP is in some need of some cash. At 65K AUR a pop, the new Omega boosters are a rip off. I am going to stick with the regular boosters at 28k a pop and save myself tons of money. Good going CCP another POS idea in the bag. Keep this up and the next time you will be selling the Omega boosters at 100k AUR to make up for the lost revenue.
you're new around here, aren't you? |
grunt party
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
57
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:30:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:Buttercup Chipmint wrote:CCP is still trying to push this as a P2Get ahead game. better then pay to win ^^ regardless if you don't like them don't get them, once you hit 22+ mil it really doesn't matter anymore anyway. yes it does
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Buttercup Chipmint
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
37
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:31:00 -
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RydogV wrote:James Belar wrote:M McManus wrote: Guess that's the cost that CCP set to not play their game, sorry CCP I'd rather spend $20 on GTA V micro transactions and have fun in an actuall MMO, not this broken lobby shooter.... Good Point. Good thing that GTAV online comes out tomorrow. GTAV has made more money in 1 day than CCP will ever make in one lifetime. I will be playing both games, easily. So it is not really a choice of one over the other. To be fair, GTAV was in development by a huge studio for five years. They have also been iterating on the same style of gameplay since the first GTA. This is the first FPS for CCP Games. A lot of players seem to want Dust 514 to be of GTA (or insert any other AAA title) quality in only a fraction of the time, with only a fraction of the resources. It helps to put things into perspective.
Actually to be fair CCP feels as though DUST is a AAA game already.
Quote:DUST 514 marks a first for consoles as a AAA free-to-play FPS.
But hey they also said this about DUST as well,
Quote: "DUST 514-« brings intense infantry combat, large-scale warfare, and deep character advancement to a free-to-play massively multiplayer shooter, exclusively on the PlayStation-«3.
Wage war in the next generation of first-person shooters, where a single victory could prove the crushing blow to a galactic empire of thousands of EVE Online-« gamers."
http://dust514.com/game/faq/
So........................................... |
Evil-Stuffed-Animal
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
60
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:33:00 -
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How much is that in actual $ currency? 35$ more or less? Nice try CCP. Not happening. At all! |
Hawkin P
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
254
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:36:00 -
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Wow that translates into $32.50 a month for passive and over $35 a month for active. Yeah no way. I was going to buy a $50 Veteran pack when I heard omega's were coming back (Thinking they would be the old price of 38,000 AUR) But I'm not spending any money now. There is no way I am EVER going to buy an Omega Booster at that price.
WOW CCP WOW
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Charles Kii
Commando Perkone Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:41:00 -
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Not that it makes it that much better, but don't forget that SCEA has their $10 back when you spend $50 on the PSN Store promo going on at the moment, which would make acquiring AUR a bit cheaper.
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/09/24/sale-get-10-for-every-50-spent-new-day-1-digital-pre-orders/ |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
1962
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:43:00 -
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FUNNY THING IS I WAS GOING TO BUY AT LEAST 2 PASSIVE OMEGAS @ 36K Aur (which is more than the price of the current one). Now, they get zilch from your boy. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1020
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:44:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Quote:CCP is still trying to push this as a P2Get ahead game. Roll Why not? It's already a "Wait to get ahead" game. I mean really. If I fight against people who got some SP due to Omega Boosters or if I fight against people who have 20 Million SP because they played since Beta? What's the difference. Contrary to Eve Online I at least have a chance to catch up.
It doesn't matter if its EVE online or Dust, it still takes time to "catch up" I mean.... lets be realistic here, a 1 day old character doesn't have a chance against the same tier ship as someone whos 10 years in. Even a 1 week character doesn't. 1 month though..... then were getting more even.
The same thing applies to Dust. A one day old character wont compare to a 6 month vet. And they shouldn't...... But after a week or two, the gap closes considerably (assuming they did the right thing and specialized).
Honestly this game (for an MMO) is the most lenient ive ever seen. In any other standard MMO the older player Is just going to win because his skills are likely to be more robust. But in this game even militia suits can kill proto suits under the right circumstances.
So as far as balance goes, I think its more then fair honestly. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1364
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:46:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:When you think about it, a normal 30 day booster is 28,000 AUR. The omega 30 day booster gives twice as much extra SP as the normal booster, so you expect it's at least double more, so price it at 56,000 AUR. But then you take into consideration that you are getting these points a full month faster than if you were to just buy two normal 30 day boosters at that price, so add a 9,000 AUR convenience fee and BAM! 65,000 AUR.
I didn't like it at first, but it makes sense and is reasonable. Also no, there is no chance in hell I am buying one. I too think it's reasonable. If you don't like it you can still buy normal boosters or no boosters at all.
The problem is that CCP needs money from this game in order to continue developing it. Most of the Subdreddit guys I see on the forums have a non booster, non proto mentality and seem to really, really love Eve. This game doesn't have a subscription. When running a business it must take in more money than it spends in order to be successful. Business 101.
Many people aren't buying ANYTHING in this game because they don't trust that there is much of a future. Make the AUR cheaper AND make the AUR items in game cheaper.
If you think $32 for 720,000 SP is reasonable then you are honestly the dumbest SOB taking in oxygen at this moment. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
1964
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:49:00 -
[55] - Quote
Marston VC wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Quote:CCP is still trying to push this as a P2Get ahead game. Roll Why not? It's already a "Wait to get ahead" game. I mean really. If I fight against people who got some SP due to Omega Boosters or if I fight against people who have 20 Million SP because they played since Beta? What's the difference. Contrary to Eve Online I at least have a chance to catch up. It doesn't matter if its EVE online or Dust, it still takes time to "catch up" I mean.... lets be realistic here, a 1 day old character doesn't have a chance against the same tier ship as someone whos 10 years in. Even a 1 week character doesn't. 1 month though..... then were getting more even. The same thing applies to Dust. A one day old character wont compare to a 6 month vet. And they shouldn't...... But after a week or two, the gap closes considerably (assuming they did the right thing and specialized). Honestly this game (for an MMO) is the most lenient ive ever seen. In any other standard MMO the older player Is just going to win because his skills are likely to be more robust. But in this game even militia suits can kill proto suits under the right circumstances. So as far as balance goes, I think its more then fair honestly.
True, I agree with you
But back to subject @ hand....65K for a passive is ******* **** and it's greedy. They would have made more money if the passive was 36K and the active was 9K. I was honestly, gearing to rack up this week and next week. Now, how much will they get from me? Nada |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
1964
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:52:00 -
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ForAikuchi Tomaru wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:When you think about it, a normal 30 day booster is 28,000 AUR. The omega 30 day booster gives twice as much extra SP as the normal booster, so you expect it's at least double more, so price it at 56,000 AUR. But then you take into consideration that you are getting these points a full month faster than if you were to just buy two normal 30 day boosters at that price, so add a 9,000 AUR convenience fee and BAM! 65,000 AUR.
I didn't like it at first, but it makes sense and is reasonable. Also no, there is no chance in hell I am buying one. I too think it's reasonable. If you don't like it you can still buy normal boosters or no boosters at all.
There is one born everyday...but in this case, we get a double wammy.
There will always be those that feel CCP can not do any wrong.
Forget that fail justification. Why not..."you just dont start to charge $5 for an item and then bring the exact same model back to sell for $10." |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1020
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:54:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:When you think about it, a normal 30 day booster is 28,000 AUR. The omega 30 day booster gives twice as much extra SP as the normal booster, so you expect it's at least double more, so price it at 56,000 AUR. But then you take into consideration that you are getting these points a full month faster than if you were to just buy two normal 30 day boosters at that price, so add a 9,000 AUR convenience fee and BAM! 65,000 AUR.
I didn't like it at first, but it makes sense and is reasonable. Also no, there is no chance in hell I am buying one. I too think it's reasonable. If you don't like it you can still buy normal boosters or no boosters at all. The problem is that CCP needs money from this game in order to continue developing it. Most of the Subdreddit guys I see on the forums have a non booster, non proto mentality and seem to really, really love Eve. This game doesn't have a subscription. When running a business it must take in more money than it spends in order to be successful. Business 101. Many people aren't buying ANYTHING in this game because they don't trust that there is much of a future. Make the AUR cheaper AND make the AUR items in game cheaper. If you think $32 for 720,000 SP is reasonable then you are honestly the dumbest SOB taking in oxygen at this moment.
Dust development gets funded from EVE subscriptions...... Yes the money they get from boosters and such is important. But you people are crazy if you think the AUR market is what keeps DUST afloat. The only real purpose they serve is to show to the CCP board that "hey dust can totally make money! Please invest in us so we can make even more later!" which is arguably just as important, but its whatever. I don't think the company is anywhere near bankruptcy...... |
Magnus Amadeuss
DUST University Ivy League
56
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:55:00 -
[58] - Quote
More lost revenue here aswell. I was planning on spending at least $50. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
1964
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:56:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:When you think about it, a normal 30 day booster is 28,000 AUR. The omega 30 day booster gives twice as much extra SP as the normal booster, so you expect it's at least double more, so price it at 56,000 AUR. But then you take into consideration that you are getting these points a full month faster than if you were to just buy two normal 30 day boosters at that price, so add a 9,000 AUR convenience fee and BAM! 65,000 AUR.
I didn't like it at first, but it makes sense and is reasonable. Also no, there is no chance in hell I am buying one. I too think it's reasonable. If you don't like it you can still buy normal boosters or no boosters at all. The problem is that CCP needs money from this game in order to continue developing it. Most of the Subdreddit guys I see on the forums have a non booster, non proto mentality and seem to really, really love Eve. This game doesn't have a subscription. When running a business it must take in more money than it spends in order to be successful. Business 101. Many people aren't buying ANYTHING in this game because they don't trust that there is much of a future. Make the AUR cheaper AND make the AUR items in game cheaper. If you think $32 for 720,000 SP is reasonable then you are honestly the dumbest SOB taking in oxygen at this moment. Dust development gets funded from EVE subscriptions...... Yes the money they get from boosters and such is important. But you people are crazy if you think the AUR market is what keeps DUST afloat. The only real purpose they serve is to show to the CCP board that "hey dust can totally make money! Please invest in us so we can make even more later!" which is arguably just as important, but its whatever. I don't think the company is anywhere near bankruptcy......
Believe it or not...a lot of people have spent at least 2x or 3x the sub fees for an annual Eve account |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
1964
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:57:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote:More lost revenue here aswell. I was planning on spending at least $50.
Preach! |
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1365
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:59:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:When you think about it, a normal 30 day booster is 28,000 AUR. The omega 30 day booster gives twice as much extra SP as the normal booster, so you expect it's at least double more, so price it at 56,000 AUR. But then you take into consideration that you are getting these points a full month faster than if you were to just buy two normal 30 day boosters at that price, so add a 9,000 AUR convenience fee and BAM! 65,000 AUR.
I didn't like it at first, but it makes sense and is reasonable. Also no, there is no chance in hell I am buying one. I too think it's reasonable. If you don't like it you can still buy normal boosters or no boosters at all. The problem is that CCP needs money from this game in order to continue developing it. Most of the Subdreddit guys I see on the forums have a non booster, non proto mentality and seem to really, really love Eve. This game doesn't have a subscription. When running a business it must take in more money than it spends in order to be successful. Business 101. Many people aren't buying ANYTHING in this game because they don't trust that there is much of a future. Make the AUR cheaper AND make the AUR items in game cheaper. If you think $32 for 720,000 SP is reasonable then you are honestly the dumbest SOB taking in oxygen at this moment. Dust development gets funded from EVE subscriptions...... Yes the money they get from boosters and such is important. But you people are crazy if you think the AUR market is what keeps DUST afloat. The only real purpose they serve is to show to the CCP board that "hey dust can totally make money! Please invest in us so we can make even more later!" which is arguably just as important, but its whatever. I don't think the company is anywhere near bankruptcy......
I don't think so either, but I'm sure they have accountants that are able to tell them that this game isn't generating enough money. The player numbers, the console video game market forecast, and the slow development might have them trying to squeeze the last bit of revenue they can out of this game.
Especially when you consider the removal of BPOs. To me it looks like they want people to flock out to buy them up. |
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions
801
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:01:00 -
[62] - Quote
A tad bit expensive but I had nothing better to waste my aur on so... |
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Marston VC
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1020
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:04:00 -
[63] - Quote
Ydubbs81 RND wrote:For Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:When you think about it, a normal 30 day booster is 28,000 AUR. The omega 30 day booster gives twice as much extra SP as the normal booster, so you expect it's at least double more, so price it at 56,000 AUR. But then you take into consideration that you are getting these points a full month faster than if you were to just buy two normal 30 day boosters at that price, so add a 9,000 AUR convenience fee and BAM! 65,000 AUR.
I didn't like it at first, but it makes sense and is reasonable. Also no, there is no chance in hell I am buying one. I too think it's reasonable. If you don't like it you can still buy normal boosters or no boosters at all. There is one born everyday...but in this case, we get a double wammy. There will always be those that feel CCP can not do any wrong. Forget that fail justification. Why not..."you just dont start to charge $5 for an item and then bring the exact same model back to sell for $10."
Ive been saving 130k AUR for the day they re-released omega boosters. I bought 3 active boosters and 1 passive booster. Heres my reasoning for it.....
I was fully prepared to start playing this game completely for free until the omega boosters came out again. Luckily they came out 2 days before my last 30 day booster ended (yay me). Now that I look at it, the price is rather steep. HOWEVER I still bought the passive booster and my reasoning for it? Well..... if enough people complain then perhaps the price will get dropped and ill be compensated anyway. If it doesn't then im still going to make a boatload of SP, and since Christmas is pretty much right around the corner I can afford to go through a month dry. Really its just an equation filled with win, and only one negative can be found (and that's the insane price), but honestly...... what did I really buy the AUR for in the first place? To sit in my wallet? no..... so im going to spend it, because I have a lot of it, and it doesn't seem like that bad of an option.
Now from a normal persons point of view (those who only occasionally buy the 10-20$ packs) I can imagine why this looks like a crappy deal. But I think that's why they added the active booster (because they knew that many people don't like the idea of dropping 40 dollars (on two merc packs) to get the AUR to buy ONE passive booster).
I mean lets think about this!!! How many of you said "65k passive booster??? WTF no!" but then went on to say "17k active booster? that doesn't sound so bad! maybe ill buy a couple of those!!" So either way your going to get snared! BUT the catch with the Active boosters is that if you buy those then your pretty much obligated to play with them! More people start to play, this increases player count, which increases matchmaking quality, which also buffs up CCP's data tables. I mean, weather you guys like it or not, CCP made a semi-decent business move! (except for the public reputation they lost because of it...... who cares about reputation if you make money anyway?). |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1020
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:07:00 -
[64] - Quote
ChribbaX wrote:A tad bit expensive but I had nothing better to waste my aur on so...
Exactly my point! |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1365
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:08:00 -
[65] - Quote
It's not a boatload of SP. It's 360,000 more SP than a standard booster or 720,000 more than not running boosters for 30 days.
You might as well turn your PS3 into a parking meter. Just stick a quarter in every hour. |
Ryme Intrinseca
Seraphim Auxiliaries
84
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:10:00 -
[66] - Quote
Thor Odinson42 wrote:If you think $32 for 720,000 SP is reasonable then you are honestly the dumbest SOB taking in oxygen at this moment. $32 is nothing! Lots of people make that in an hour or two. To get that 720,000 SP by other means would take countless hours of grinding, so $32 to get access to this benefit without having to play more than I want represents good value. But I'm not going to tell you you're dumb, we just value things differently, which is fine. |
Daddrobit
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
361
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:12:00 -
[67] - Quote
Aero Yassavi wrote:When you think about it, a normal 30 day booster is 28,000 AUR. The omega 30 day booster gives twice as much extra SP as the normal booster, so you expect it's at least double more, so price it at 56,000 AUR. But then you take into consideration that you are getting these points a full month faster than if you were to just buy two normal 30 day boosters at that price, so add a 9,000 AUR convenience fee and BAM! 65,000 AUR.
I didn't like it at first, but it makes sense and is reasonable. Also no, there is no chance in hell I am buying one.
But the original 28k AUR -is- the convenience fee, it was all a convenience service product to begin with.The extra 9k is just to wring people who do buy them for as much money as possible.
@Ryme **** man, a lot of people earn $32 an hour? What the hell am I doing here working this $9.20 for then, I gotta find me one o' those.
(sigh, only 3 more semesters of Ramen, 3 more semesters...) |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1020
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:13:00 -
[68] - Quote
Thor Odinson42 wrote:Marston VC wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:When you think about it, a normal 30 day booster is 28,000 AUR. The omega 30 day booster gives twice as much extra SP as the normal booster, so you expect it's at least double more, so price it at 56,000 AUR. But then you take into consideration that you are getting these points a full month faster than if you were to just buy two normal 30 day boosters at that price, so add a 9,000 AUR convenience fee and BAM! 65,000 AUR.
I didn't like it at first, but it makes sense and is reasonable. Also no, there is no chance in hell I am buying one. I too think it's reasonable. If you don't like it you can still buy normal boosters or no boosters at all. The problem is that CCP needs money from this game in order to continue developing it. Most of the Subdreddit guys I see on the forums have a non booster, non proto mentality and seem to really, really love Eve. This game doesn't have a subscription. When running a business it must take in more money than it spends in order to be successful. Business 101. Many people aren't buying ANYTHING in this game because they don't trust that there is much of a future. Make the AUR cheaper AND make the AUR items in game cheaper. If you think $32 for 720,000 SP is reasonable then you are honestly the dumbest SOB taking in oxygen at this moment. Dust development gets funded from EVE subscriptions...... Yes the money they get from boosters and such is important. But you people are crazy if you think the AUR market is what keeps DUST afloat. The only real purpose they serve is to show to the CCP board that "hey dust can totally make money! Please invest in us so we can make even more later!" which is arguably just as important, but its whatever. I don't think the company is anywhere near bankruptcy...... I don't think so either, but I'm sure they have accountants that are able to tell them that this game isn't generating enough money. The player numbers, the console video game market forecast, and the slow development might have them trying to squeeze the last bit of revenue they can out of this game. Especially when you consider the removal of BPOs. To me it looks like they want people to flock out to buy them up.
That's just nonsensical. CCP has always been about the long term investment. This game is a major investment to them. They will not let it fail because if they do that will be over a year of time and effort wasted on nothing. No..... they will continue to fund it until it makes money on its own.
Yes it might seem like the removal of BPO's is a means to get people to buy them up. But they said this was to better prepare dust for the EVE economy. I would take your point of view seriously if CCP pulls a "we were going to take them off the market but now were not" stunt. Because then yes.... that would have been a grab for money. But if they do follow through with it, and actually take the BPO's off the market, then I believe that there actually being legit. CCP has nothing to gain but a quick buck by lying to us. But CCP also isn't as short minded and stupid as to look for the quick bucks by lying to us. But hey! maybe everything im saying is BS and were all getting screwed over.
But until it happens, ill continue to support the only game I really play anymore! |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1020
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:16:00 -
[69] - Quote
Thor Odinson42 wrote:It's not a boatload of SP. It's 360,000 more SP than a standard booster or 720,000 more than not running boosters for 30 days.
You might as well turn your PS3 into a parking meter. Just stick a quarter in every hour.
360k is a lot to me ;) sounds like the difference between level 4 and level 5 for a lot of things. This added up with the active booster will help me skyrocket ahead of those who don't buy them, and will let me catch up to those that are ahead of me already (assuming they don't buy them). |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
970
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:28:00 -
[70] - Quote
The active omega boosters are only useful for events.
I can understand 48k, 36k on sale made sense for how much extra you're getting compared to a regular booster.
but 65k? where did that number come from? |
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Canaan Knute
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
144
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:37:00 -
[71] - Quote
Marston VC wrote:I mean lets think about this!!! How many of you said "65k passive booster??? WTF no!" but then went on to say "17k active booster? that doesn't sound so bad! maybe ill buy a couple of those!!" So either way your going to get snared! I don't plan on buying any of the omega-boosters unless they get a price drop. I can buy two normal active boosters for less than the price of one omega. More bonus SP than an omega booster and less AUR spent. |
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