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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:59:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:When you think about it, a normal 30 day booster is 28,000 AUR. The omega 30 day booster gives twice as much extra SP as the normal booster, so you expect it's at least double more, so price it at 56,000 AUR. But then you take into consideration that you are getting these points a full month faster than if you were to just buy two normal 30 day boosters at that price, so add a 9,000 AUR convenience fee and BAM! 65,000 AUR.
I didn't like it at first, but it makes sense and is reasonable. Also no, there is no chance in hell I am buying one. I too think it's reasonable. If you don't like it you can still buy normal boosters or no boosters at all. The problem is that CCP needs money from this game in order to continue developing it. Most of the Subdreddit guys I see on the forums have a non booster, non proto mentality and seem to really, really love Eve. This game doesn't have a subscription. When running a business it must take in more money than it spends in order to be successful. Business 101. Many people aren't buying ANYTHING in this game because they don't trust that there is much of a future. Make the AUR cheaper AND make the AUR items in game cheaper. If you think $32 for 720,000 SP is reasonable then you are honestly the dumbest SOB taking in oxygen at this moment. Dust development gets funded from EVE subscriptions...... Yes the money they get from boosters and such is important. But you people are crazy if you think the AUR market is what keeps DUST afloat. The only real purpose they serve is to show to the CCP board that "hey dust can totally make money! Please invest in us so we can make even more later!" which is arguably just as important, but its whatever. I don't think the company is anywhere near bankruptcy......
I don't think so either, but I'm sure they have accountants that are able to tell them that this game isn't generating enough money. The player numbers, the console video game market forecast, and the slow development might have them trying to squeeze the last bit of revenue they can out of this game.
Especially when you consider the removal of BPOs. To me it looks like they want people to flock out to buy them up. |
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:01:00 -
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A tad bit expensive but I had nothing better to waste my aur on so... |
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Marston VC
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1020
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:04:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:For Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:When you think about it, a normal 30 day booster is 28,000 AUR. The omega 30 day booster gives twice as much extra SP as the normal booster, so you expect it's at least double more, so price it at 56,000 AUR. But then you take into consideration that you are getting these points a full month faster than if you were to just buy two normal 30 day boosters at that price, so add a 9,000 AUR convenience fee and BAM! 65,000 AUR.
I didn't like it at first, but it makes sense and is reasonable. Also no, there is no chance in hell I am buying one. I too think it's reasonable. If you don't like it you can still buy normal boosters or no boosters at all. There is one born everyday...but in this case, we get a double wammy. There will always be those that feel CCP can not do any wrong. Forget that fail justification. Why not..."you just dont start to charge $5 for an item and then bring the exact same model back to sell for $10."
Ive been saving 130k AUR for the day they re-released omega boosters. I bought 3 active boosters and 1 passive booster. Heres my reasoning for it.....
I was fully prepared to start playing this game completely for free until the omega boosters came out again. Luckily they came out 2 days before my last 30 day booster ended (yay me). Now that I look at it, the price is rather steep. HOWEVER I still bought the passive booster and my reasoning for it? Well..... if enough people complain then perhaps the price will get dropped and ill be compensated anyway. If it doesn't then im still going to make a boatload of SP, and since Christmas is pretty much right around the corner I can afford to go through a month dry. Really its just an equation filled with win, and only one negative can be found (and that's the insane price), but honestly...... what did I really buy the AUR for in the first place? To sit in my wallet? no..... so im going to spend it, because I have a lot of it, and it doesn't seem like that bad of an option.
Now from a normal persons point of view (those who only occasionally buy the 10-20$ packs) I can imagine why this looks like a crappy deal. But I think that's why they added the active booster (because they knew that many people don't like the idea of dropping 40 dollars (on two merc packs) to get the AUR to buy ONE passive booster).
I mean lets think about this!!! How many of you said "65k passive booster??? WTF no!" but then went on to say "17k active booster? that doesn't sound so bad! maybe ill buy a couple of those!!" So either way your going to get snared! BUT the catch with the Active boosters is that if you buy those then your pretty much obligated to play with them! More people start to play, this increases player count, which increases matchmaking quality, which also buffs up CCP's data tables. I mean, weather you guys like it or not, CCP made a semi-decent business move! (except for the public reputation they lost because of it...... who cares about reputation if you make money anyway?). |
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Marston VC
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1020
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:07:00 -
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ChribbaX wrote:A tad bit expensive but I had nothing better to waste my aur on so...
Exactly my point! |
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:08:00 -
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It's not a boatload of SP. It's 360,000 more SP than a standard booster or 720,000 more than not running boosters for 30 days.
You might as well turn your PS3 into a parking meter. Just stick a quarter in every hour. |
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Ryme Intrinseca
Seraphim Auxiliaries
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:10:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:If you think $32 for 720,000 SP is reasonable then you are honestly the dumbest SOB taking in oxygen at this moment. $32 is nothing! Lots of people make that in an hour or two. To get that 720,000 SP by other means would take countless hours of grinding, so $32 to get access to this benefit without having to play more than I want represents good value. But I'm not going to tell you you're dumb, we just value things differently, which is fine. |
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Daddrobit
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:12:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:When you think about it, a normal 30 day booster is 28,000 AUR. The omega 30 day booster gives twice as much extra SP as the normal booster, so you expect it's at least double more, so price it at 56,000 AUR. But then you take into consideration that you are getting these points a full month faster than if you were to just buy two normal 30 day boosters at that price, so add a 9,000 AUR convenience fee and BAM! 65,000 AUR.
I didn't like it at first, but it makes sense and is reasonable. Also no, there is no chance in hell I am buying one.
But the original 28k AUR -is- the convenience fee, it was all a convenience service product to begin with.The extra 9k is just to wring people who do buy them for as much money as possible.
@Ryme **** man, a lot of people earn $32 an hour? What the hell am I doing here working this $9.20 for then, I gotta find me one o' those.
(sigh, only 3 more semesters of Ramen, 3 more semesters...) |
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Marston VC
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1020
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:13:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Marston VC wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:When you think about it, a normal 30 day booster is 28,000 AUR. The omega 30 day booster gives twice as much extra SP as the normal booster, so you expect it's at least double more, so price it at 56,000 AUR. But then you take into consideration that you are getting these points a full month faster than if you were to just buy two normal 30 day boosters at that price, so add a 9,000 AUR convenience fee and BAM! 65,000 AUR.
I didn't like it at first, but it makes sense and is reasonable. Also no, there is no chance in hell I am buying one. I too think it's reasonable. If you don't like it you can still buy normal boosters or no boosters at all. The problem is that CCP needs money from this game in order to continue developing it. Most of the Subdreddit guys I see on the forums have a non booster, non proto mentality and seem to really, really love Eve. This game doesn't have a subscription. When running a business it must take in more money than it spends in order to be successful. Business 101. Many people aren't buying ANYTHING in this game because they don't trust that there is much of a future. Make the AUR cheaper AND make the AUR items in game cheaper. If you think $32 for 720,000 SP is reasonable then you are honestly the dumbest SOB taking in oxygen at this moment. Dust development gets funded from EVE subscriptions...... Yes the money they get from boosters and such is important. But you people are crazy if you think the AUR market is what keeps DUST afloat. The only real purpose they serve is to show to the CCP board that "hey dust can totally make money! Please invest in us so we can make even more later!" which is arguably just as important, but its whatever. I don't think the company is anywhere near bankruptcy...... I don't think so either, but I'm sure they have accountants that are able to tell them that this game isn't generating enough money. The player numbers, the console video game market forecast, and the slow development might have them trying to squeeze the last bit of revenue they can out of this game. Especially when you consider the removal of BPOs. To me it looks like they want people to flock out to buy them up.
That's just nonsensical. CCP has always been about the long term investment. This game is a major investment to them. They will not let it fail because if they do that will be over a year of time and effort wasted on nothing. No..... they will continue to fund it until it makes money on its own.
Yes it might seem like the removal of BPO's is a means to get people to buy them up. But they said this was to better prepare dust for the EVE economy. I would take your point of view seriously if CCP pulls a "we were going to take them off the market but now were not" stunt. Because then yes.... that would have been a grab for money. But if they do follow through with it, and actually take the BPO's off the market, then I believe that there actually being legit. CCP has nothing to gain but a quick buck by lying to us. But CCP also isn't as short minded and stupid as to look for the quick bucks by lying to us. But hey! maybe everything im saying is BS and were all getting screwed over.
But until it happens, ill continue to support the only game I really play anymore! |
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Marston VC
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:16:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:It's not a boatload of SP. It's 360,000 more SP than a standard booster or 720,000 more than not running boosters for 30 days.
You might as well turn your PS3 into a parking meter. Just stick a quarter in every hour.
360k is a lot to me ;) sounds like the difference between level 4 and level 5 for a lot of things. This added up with the active booster will help me skyrocket ahead of those who don't buy them, and will let me catch up to those that are ahead of me already (assuming they don't buy them). |
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I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:28:00 -
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The active omega boosters are only useful for events.
I can understand 48k, 36k on sale made sense for how much extra you're getting compared to a regular booster.
but 65k? where did that number come from? |
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Canaan Knute
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.30 17:37:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:I mean lets think about this!!! How many of you said "65k passive booster??? WTF no!" but then went on to say "17k active booster? that doesn't sound so bad! maybe ill buy a couple of those!!" So either way your going to get snared! I don't plan on buying any of the omega-boosters unless they get a price drop. I can buy two normal active boosters for less than the price of one omega. More bonus SP than an omega booster and less AUR spent. |
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