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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.30 14:35:00 -
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James Belar wrote:With the release of the 30 day passive Omega boosters at 65k AUR, I take it CCP is in some need of some cash. At 65K AUR a pop, the new Omega boosters are a rip off. I am going to stick with the regular boosters at 28k a pop and save myself tons of money. Good going CCP another POS idea in the bag. Keep this up and the next time you will be selling the Omega boosters at 100k AUR to make up for the lost revenue.
For me it's about whether I buy fake drugs or the real ones. |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
830
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Posted - 2013.09.30 14:43:00 -
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Best Investment:
3 day Active Boosters 3500 ISK ~95,000 additional SP a week |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1006
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Posted - 2013.09.30 14:50:00 -
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James Belar wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Of course you can catch up. Because with playing you make more SP than somebody who isn't. With using boosters you make more SP than somebody who doesn't use them. And when you hit 20 Mio SP I think many people stop using boosters anyways. I still had 150k Aurum on my character. I now spent it on Omega Boosters instead of going with my 1,5x Booster Plan. When these boosters run out I won't buy new ones because I have to save money. Five Months of Regular Booster at 150k AUR: 5,400,000 Two Months of Omega Booster at 150k AUR: 2,880,000 The difference is 2,520,000 of just using the regular boosters How is that saving money? It might be saving time, but nowhere near saving money. I really hope you did not just buy two months of omegas. You could have been set for five months of regular boosters.
I never said anything about saving money. |
Canaan Knute
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
143
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Posted - 2013.09.30 14:57:00 -
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Here's some math for players thinking of purchasing a 7-Day Omega-Booster:
Active SP per week: 190,400 Active SP per week with 7-Day Active Booster (7,000 AUR): 285,600 Active SP per week with 7-Day Active Omega-Booster (17,500 AUR): 380,800
Here's what you get when you use an active booster over two weeks:
Active SP with 7-Day Active Booster: 571,200 Active SP with 7-Day Active Omega-Booster: 761,600
Now here's where things get interesting: you can buy two normal boosters (571,200 x 2 = 1,142,400 SP) for the price of one Omega-Booster (761,000 SP).
Conclusion: you get more SP at a lower price with normal active boosters. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1771
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Posted - 2013.09.30 15:02:00 -
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hey CCP can we raise the price up just a bit more. i feel like you made this one too low. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
6520
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Posted - 2013.09.30 15:04:00 -
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These boosters are like....specifically for try hards >_<
Why in fucks name would you spend 17,500 AUR for a week of 2x SP when you could spend 3,500 AUR for 3 days of 1.5x SP....it really ONLY benefits players who've been buying boosters non stop and never don't cap.
Lmao this game sometimes
Smh |
Ryme Intrinseca
Seraphim Auxiliaries
82
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Posted - 2013.09.30 15:18:00 -
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I think the omega boosters are at the right price. It was messed up that, at the previous (fanfest) price, the premium (omega) booster was actually better value on an SP per dollar basis than the regular booster. That meant there was no choice to be had between the two - if you could afford the omega at all, you'd better get it.
With these prices, there is a genuine choice. Personally, I went for the omega booster, because I would sooner have more SP in, say, one month rather than in two months, when I will have probably maxed out my role and SP will mean less to me. But those who are willing to delay gratification and buy two regular boosters for the same price (with change) get better value in the long run. Can't see anything wrong with that. |
Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack
490
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Posted - 2013.09.30 15:18:00 -
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65k!!! WOW. Are they out of their minds??
At 36k you could make a case for getting it. But it's DEFINITELY NOT worth 65k. Pass thank you very much. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1772
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Posted - 2013.09.30 15:21:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Best Investment:
3 day Active Boosters 3500 ISK ~95,000 additional SP a week your investment cost time... how valuable it is to you? |
Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1790
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Posted - 2013.09.30 15:36:00 -
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Good thing there's a black market for organs.
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2354
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Posted - 2013.09.30 15:45:00 -
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When you think about it, a normal 30 day booster is 28,000 AUR. The omega 30 day booster gives twice as much extra SP as the normal booster, so you expect it's at least double more, so price it at 56,000 AUR. But then you take into consideration that you are getting these points a full month faster than if you were to just buy two normal 30 day boosters at that price, so add a 9,000 AUR convenience fee and BAM! 65,000 AUR.
I didn't like it at first, but it makes sense and is reasonable. Also no, there is no chance in hell I am buying one. |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1009
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Posted - 2013.09.30 15:51:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:When you think about it, a normal 30 day booster is 28,000 AUR. The omega 30 day booster gives twice as much extra SP as the normal booster, so you expect it's at least double more, so price it at 56,000 AUR. But then you take into consideration that you are getting these points a full month faster than if you were to just buy two normal 30 day boosters at that price, so add a 9,000 AUR convenience fee and BAM! 65,000 AUR.
I didn't like it at first, but it makes sense and is reasonable. Also no, there is no chance in hell I am buying one.
I too think it's reasonable. If you don't like it you can still buy normal boosters or no boosters at all. |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
754
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:02:00 -
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These prices would only make sense to me if they weren't a limited time thing. |
RydogV
Shadow Company HQ
398
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:02:00 -
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James Belar wrote:M McManus wrote: Guess that's the cost that CCP set to not play their game, sorry CCP I'd rather spend $20 on GTA V micro transactions and have fun in an actuall MMO, not this broken lobby shooter.... Good Point. Good thing that GTAV online comes out tomorrow. GTAV has made more money in 1 day than CCP will ever make in one lifetime.
I will be playing both games, easily. So it is not really a choice of one over the other.
To be fair, GTAV was in development by a huge studio for five years. They have also been iterating on the same style of gameplay since the first GTA. This is the first FPS for CCP Games. A lot of players seem to want Dust 514 to be of GTA (or insert any other AAA title) quality in only a fraction of the time, with only a fraction of the resources. It helps to put things into perspective.
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PADDEHATPIGEN
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
65
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:19:00 -
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They are to expensive.
For 65 K AUR. I can get boht an active and a passive of normal 30 day boosters, and i would even have 9 K AUR left to spend on some fun. |
low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
570
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:23:00 -
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James Belar wrote:With the release of the 30 day passive Omega boosters at 65k AUR, I take it CCP is in some need of some cash. At 65K AUR a pop, the new Omega boosters are a rip off. I am going to stick with the regular boosters at 28k a pop and save myself tons of money. Good going CCP another POS idea in the bag. Keep this up and the next time you will be selling the Omega boosters at 100k AUR to make up for the lost revenue.
you're new around here, aren't you? |
grunt party
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
57
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:30:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:Buttercup Chipmint wrote:CCP is still trying to push this as a P2Get ahead game. better then pay to win ^^ regardless if you don't like them don't get them, once you hit 22+ mil it really doesn't matter anymore anyway. yes it does
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Buttercup Chipmint
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
37
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:31:00 -
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RydogV wrote:James Belar wrote:M McManus wrote: Guess that's the cost that CCP set to not play their game, sorry CCP I'd rather spend $20 on GTA V micro transactions and have fun in an actuall MMO, not this broken lobby shooter.... Good Point. Good thing that GTAV online comes out tomorrow. GTAV has made more money in 1 day than CCP will ever make in one lifetime. I will be playing both games, easily. So it is not really a choice of one over the other. To be fair, GTAV was in development by a huge studio for five years. They have also been iterating on the same style of gameplay since the first GTA. This is the first FPS for CCP Games. A lot of players seem to want Dust 514 to be of GTA (or insert any other AAA title) quality in only a fraction of the time, with only a fraction of the resources. It helps to put things into perspective.
Actually to be fair CCP feels as though DUST is a AAA game already.
Quote:DUST 514 marks a first for consoles as a AAA free-to-play FPS.
But hey they also said this about DUST as well,
Quote: "DUST 514-« brings intense infantry combat, large-scale warfare, and deep character advancement to a free-to-play massively multiplayer shooter, exclusively on the PlayStation-«3.
Wage war in the next generation of first-person shooters, where a single victory could prove the crushing blow to a galactic empire of thousands of EVE Online-« gamers."
http://dust514.com/game/faq/
So........................................... |
Evil-Stuffed-Animal
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
60
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:33:00 -
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How much is that in actual $ currency? 35$ more or less? Nice try CCP. Not happening. At all! |
Hawkin P
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
254
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:36:00 -
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Wow that translates into $32.50 a month for passive and over $35 a month for active. Yeah no way. I was going to buy a $50 Veteran pack when I heard omega's were coming back (Thinking they would be the old price of 38,000 AUR) But I'm not spending any money now. There is no way I am EVER going to buy an Omega Booster at that price.
WOW CCP WOW
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Charles Kii
Commando Perkone Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:41:00 -
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Not that it makes it that much better, but don't forget that SCEA has their $10 back when you spend $50 on the PSN Store promo going on at the moment, which would make acquiring AUR a bit cheaper.
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/09/24/sale-get-10-for-every-50-spent-new-day-1-digital-pre-orders/ |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
1962
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:43:00 -
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FUNNY THING IS I WAS GOING TO BUY AT LEAST 2 PASSIVE OMEGAS @ 36K Aur (which is more than the price of the current one). Now, they get zilch from your boy. |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1020
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:44:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Quote:CCP is still trying to push this as a P2Get ahead game. Roll Why not? It's already a "Wait to get ahead" game. I mean really. If I fight against people who got some SP due to Omega Boosters or if I fight against people who have 20 Million SP because they played since Beta? What's the difference. Contrary to Eve Online I at least have a chance to catch up.
It doesn't matter if its EVE online or Dust, it still takes time to "catch up" I mean.... lets be realistic here, a 1 day old character doesn't have a chance against the same tier ship as someone whos 10 years in. Even a 1 week character doesn't. 1 month though..... then were getting more even.
The same thing applies to Dust. A one day old character wont compare to a 6 month vet. And they shouldn't...... But after a week or two, the gap closes considerably (assuming they did the right thing and specialized).
Honestly this game (for an MMO) is the most lenient ive ever seen. In any other standard MMO the older player Is just going to win because his skills are likely to be more robust. But in this game even militia suits can kill proto suits under the right circumstances.
So as far as balance goes, I think its more then fair honestly. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1364
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:46:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:When you think about it, a normal 30 day booster is 28,000 AUR. The omega 30 day booster gives twice as much extra SP as the normal booster, so you expect it's at least double more, so price it at 56,000 AUR. But then you take into consideration that you are getting these points a full month faster than if you were to just buy two normal 30 day boosters at that price, so add a 9,000 AUR convenience fee and BAM! 65,000 AUR.
I didn't like it at first, but it makes sense and is reasonable. Also no, there is no chance in hell I am buying one. I too think it's reasonable. If you don't like it you can still buy normal boosters or no boosters at all.
The problem is that CCP needs money from this game in order to continue developing it. Most of the Subdreddit guys I see on the forums have a non booster, non proto mentality and seem to really, really love Eve. This game doesn't have a subscription. When running a business it must take in more money than it spends in order to be successful. Business 101.
Many people aren't buying ANYTHING in this game because they don't trust that there is much of a future. Make the AUR cheaper AND make the AUR items in game cheaper.
If you think $32 for 720,000 SP is reasonable then you are honestly the dumbest SOB taking in oxygen at this moment. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
1964
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:49:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Quote:CCP is still trying to push this as a P2Get ahead game. Roll Why not? It's already a "Wait to get ahead" game. I mean really. If I fight against people who got some SP due to Omega Boosters or if I fight against people who have 20 Million SP because they played since Beta? What's the difference. Contrary to Eve Online I at least have a chance to catch up. It doesn't matter if its EVE online or Dust, it still takes time to "catch up" I mean.... lets be realistic here, a 1 day old character doesn't have a chance against the same tier ship as someone whos 10 years in. Even a 1 week character doesn't. 1 month though..... then were getting more even. The same thing applies to Dust. A one day old character wont compare to a 6 month vet. And they shouldn't...... But after a week or two, the gap closes considerably (assuming they did the right thing and specialized). Honestly this game (for an MMO) is the most lenient ive ever seen. In any other standard MMO the older player Is just going to win because his skills are likely to be more robust. But in this game even militia suits can kill proto suits under the right circumstances. So as far as balance goes, I think its more then fair honestly.
True, I agree with you
But back to subject @ hand....65K for a passive is ******* **** and it's greedy. They would have made more money if the passive was 36K and the active was 9K. I was honestly, gearing to rack up this week and next week. Now, how much will they get from me? Nada |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
1964
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:52:00 -
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ForAikuchi Tomaru wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:When you think about it, a normal 30 day booster is 28,000 AUR. The omega 30 day booster gives twice as much extra SP as the normal booster, so you expect it's at least double more, so price it at 56,000 AUR. But then you take into consideration that you are getting these points a full month faster than if you were to just buy two normal 30 day boosters at that price, so add a 9,000 AUR convenience fee and BAM! 65,000 AUR.
I didn't like it at first, but it makes sense and is reasonable. Also no, there is no chance in hell I am buying one. I too think it's reasonable. If you don't like it you can still buy normal boosters or no boosters at all.
There is one born everyday...but in this case, we get a double wammy.
There will always be those that feel CCP can not do any wrong.
Forget that fail justification. Why not..."you just dont start to charge $5 for an item and then bring the exact same model back to sell for $10." |
Marston VC
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1020
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:54:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:When you think about it, a normal 30 day booster is 28,000 AUR. The omega 30 day booster gives twice as much extra SP as the normal booster, so you expect it's at least double more, so price it at 56,000 AUR. But then you take into consideration that you are getting these points a full month faster than if you were to just buy two normal 30 day boosters at that price, so add a 9,000 AUR convenience fee and BAM! 65,000 AUR.
I didn't like it at first, but it makes sense and is reasonable. Also no, there is no chance in hell I am buying one. I too think it's reasonable. If you don't like it you can still buy normal boosters or no boosters at all. The problem is that CCP needs money from this game in order to continue developing it. Most of the Subdreddit guys I see on the forums have a non booster, non proto mentality and seem to really, really love Eve. This game doesn't have a subscription. When running a business it must take in more money than it spends in order to be successful. Business 101. Many people aren't buying ANYTHING in this game because they don't trust that there is much of a future. Make the AUR cheaper AND make the AUR items in game cheaper. If you think $32 for 720,000 SP is reasonable then you are honestly the dumbest SOB taking in oxygen at this moment.
Dust development gets funded from EVE subscriptions...... Yes the money they get from boosters and such is important. But you people are crazy if you think the AUR market is what keeps DUST afloat. The only real purpose they serve is to show to the CCP board that "hey dust can totally make money! Please invest in us so we can make even more later!" which is arguably just as important, but its whatever. I don't think the company is anywhere near bankruptcy...... |
Magnus Amadeuss
DUST University Ivy League
56
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:55:00 -
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More lost revenue here aswell. I was planning on spending at least $50. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
1964
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:56:00 -
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Marston VC wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:When you think about it, a normal 30 day booster is 28,000 AUR. The omega 30 day booster gives twice as much extra SP as the normal booster, so you expect it's at least double more, so price it at 56,000 AUR. But then you take into consideration that you are getting these points a full month faster than if you were to just buy two normal 30 day boosters at that price, so add a 9,000 AUR convenience fee and BAM! 65,000 AUR.
I didn't like it at first, but it makes sense and is reasonable. Also no, there is no chance in hell I am buying one. I too think it's reasonable. If you don't like it you can still buy normal boosters or no boosters at all. The problem is that CCP needs money from this game in order to continue developing it. Most of the Subdreddit guys I see on the forums have a non booster, non proto mentality and seem to really, really love Eve. This game doesn't have a subscription. When running a business it must take in more money than it spends in order to be successful. Business 101. Many people aren't buying ANYTHING in this game because they don't trust that there is much of a future. Make the AUR cheaper AND make the AUR items in game cheaper. If you think $32 for 720,000 SP is reasonable then you are honestly the dumbest SOB taking in oxygen at this moment. Dust development gets funded from EVE subscriptions...... Yes the money they get from boosters and such is important. But you people are crazy if you think the AUR market is what keeps DUST afloat. The only real purpose they serve is to show to the CCP board that "hey dust can totally make money! Please invest in us so we can make even more later!" which is arguably just as important, but its whatever. I don't think the company is anywhere near bankruptcy......
Believe it or not...a lot of people have spent at least 2x or 3x the sub fees for an annual Eve account |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
1964
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Posted - 2013.09.30 16:57:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote:More lost revenue here aswell. I was planning on spending at least $50.
Preach! |
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