You should be please that some people is using the mouse right now, since all that people have been in a huge disadvantage all the way throughout Uprising. I went 28-3 with my first go at the aimbot the other day.. and i honestly suck with the DS3, with the mouse i just about manage 7-7, or sometimes 10-6 in a VERY good match. You shouldn't encourage me to use the DS3, you risking the aimbot getting a huge NERF.

Dude there is no aimbot, its aim assist, CCP haven't changed despite looking at it, their happy with it, I don't use, I still beat those that do, Im happy with it!

Deal with it!
Maybe you are just poor t using a mouse!

another kid gets pwned by a pro controller user comes to the forums to kick the KB/M scapegoat, too stupid or new to realise that KB/M support in dust is a pale crappy shadow of how it used to be.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, mouse and keyboard is easy mode, especially when using scrambler, laser, tac, shotty, forge or sniper rifle.

Mouse/keyboard users are the core of this game right now, and I have no beef with them. Without them there is no metagame. What I am saying is that for Dust 514 to grow, ps3 console owners who download this free game must continue playing instead of quitting. They get moused by a few AR shots and never play again. We can correct this; we can use ps3 controllers instead of mice outside of planetary conquest. It is in our interest to see Dust expand, correct?? Do what thou wilt. Break out the dualshock when you are not in a planetary conquest if you like and give the console players a reason to keep playing. Or use "steriods" and win. Follow your soul. As a side note, the microcasm of Dust 514 is fascinating. It's like Easter Island, or modern global culture today. I believe that because we have mostly lost any sense of "larger goals" and focus on selfish gain that modern society will continue to collapse. Oh well. "Do what thou wilt".

Spaceman-rob, we all ready determined you're horrible with the DS3 and never used the kb/m so quit contributing to something you know nothing about. .

Use the KB/M first to see how terrible it is before you post about how OP it is.. Yet again like others have said before me just another horrible player getting raped by a controller and blaming m/kb.. if its so amazing maybe you can use it to get above a 2kdr.. lololol

I don't have much say on the KB/M vs DS3 issue... but I do think it's stupid to call one or the other of them the "core of the game" because with the numbers we have nobody is the core of much of anything.

Self important sanctimonious asswads.

Well... mouse users USED to be the core of the game, then CCP decided to **** around with the mouse settings, slowly exterminated all mouse users... and well... the player base numbers you see now is a direct consequence from that. Console gamer's are most likely playing BF3, or COD, or GTA 5 soon, or The last of us, or Diablo 3, or.....you get the idea....

Isn't great that you can play a console FPS with a mouse and kick arse??? You understand, however, for the longevity of Dust 514 we require ps3 console dualshock controller users to play this free download, correct? I already know the responses, but please, send them anyway. I use my mouse when I work, my ps3 controller when I play Dust, but do as you please. Just understand that when you use a mouse/keyboard outside of planetary conquest you are killing a game you enjoy. Got it? You don't, mostly, but maybe you'll WAKE UP so hear my LOUD MOUTH as I say make Dust 514 grow! Put the mouse away. No "matchmaking" or "player academy" will save noobs from yer mouse. This game rocks, use a controller, give "free downloader" ps3 players a chance. Give Dust 514 a chance to suceed. ...and now, HERE COME THE COMMENTS

So then you are saying mouse users all love the game and would be here if only the mouse worked better? Give me a break. This core of the game crap comes from segments, such as vets, who don't give a crap about the game but only how they can "rule" in it since they've been here a long time -- no matter what that does to game play experience for new users.

Spare me the bullsh*t.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, mouse and keyboard is easy mode, especially when using scrambler, laser, tac, shotty, forge or sniper rifle.

Alright. Does anyone really think that a good mouse setup is less accurate than a ps3 controller? If a controller is better why do the best use a mouse?

Alright. Does anyone really think that a good mouse setup is less accurate than a ps3 controller? If a controller is better why do the best use a mouse?

Alright. Does anyone really think that a good mouse setup is less accurate than a ps3 controller? If a controller is better why do the best use a mouse?

Right Im gonna sort this out right now!
Controller is not more important than kb/m
kb/m is not more important than controller

Your input method does not, should not and will not determine the metagame!
Metagame is determined by the player!

Your input is nothing more than a preference, this not a hardcore skill based game! This is not the unreal tournement!
There is NO Aimbot, it is an aim assistt, it is designed to stop chop strafing and bunny hopping!

The kb/m works via a controller emulator, the input of the kb/m is converted into controller input before being parsed to the system.

There are many positive reasons why this is done!
By doimg this the main thing is to eliminate hardware improvememts, period!

This is a game where tactics and intelligence rule, if you do not wish to play this way kindly leave and don't let the dorr hit you on the way out!

I don't but let's face it, these forums are full of keyboard and mouse neck bearded warriors from eve who rule this game, who will tell you otherwise, that's why I'm being jumped on from all sides. F*ck them, let's hope one day they all feck off back to their desktop.

So, most agree that a mouse is more accurate than a thumbstick. Amazing. Have you ever wondered why pc users use mice instead of thumbssticks? Or touchpads? Or rollerballs? The mouse is an obvious advantage in any application. Put it away and use a controller in public matches to further Dust 514. Or be greedy and the game sees less growth

Spaceman-rob, we all ready determined you're horrible with the DS3 and never used the kb/m so quit contributing to something you know nothing about. .

Use the KB/M first to see how terrible it is before you post about how OP it is.. Yet again like others have said before me just another horrible player getting raped by a controller and blaming m/kb.. if its so amazing maybe you can use it to get above a 2kdr.. lololol

I've said it before and I'll say it again, mouse and keyboard is easy mode, especially when using scrambler, laser, tac, shotty, forge or sniper rifle.

Bull **** .... if what you saying is true, why CCP is constantly nerfing the mouse ? Why the hell they haven't given mouse users Raw Input yet ? even if the DS3 users have an OP aimbot right now ?

Everything CCP have been doing since Uprising, is ******* mouse users none stop.

The day before Uprising was release was nearly 10,000 people online, maybe more, i can't remember exactly how many. The day after Uprising, the player base dropped to 4,000 and slowly have been going down to the current 3,000. The most significant change in Uprising was the HORRIBLE mouse settings.

OK. I'll say it again with slightly different words. "We should use the ps3 dualshock when playing public matches to encourage the player base of Dust 514. We should do this to grow a game we enjoy." To those who say a mouse isn't more accurate/better than a ps3 thumbstick... are you serious?

No its not hard because its the superior control method, but putting mouse control in a console fps was a naive move by CCP.

CCP is just using what is AVAILABLE to them.... If you want to complaint to anyone, you should be directing your complains to Sony, is their foul that you can use a mouse in Dust 514.

How many things are you going to hide behind?

There's many problems with Dust 514, but it's not the mouse and keyboard users. Just saying.

Alright. Beating my head against a wall here...
We have established that the mouse is the better aiming device. There is no doubt.
THE POINT IS: The ps3 user that downloads Dust 514 is a console player w/o a mouse, and we, the "advanced" Dust 514 community, should only use our mice in planetary conquest. In public matches, we should nuture "ps3 free downloaders" instead of killing them with five AR, mouse-guided bullets. Do what you wanna do. I just want Dust to thrive. Before you make a "matchmaking" comment concerning this topic, consult your mostly logical brain. Thrice.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, mouse and keyboard is easy mode, especially when using scrambler, laser, tac, shotty, forge or sniper rifle.

Oh one of the Easy Mode response people, there is nothing easy about KBM on Dust....it still feels like playing with my hands tied behind my back and my nuts anchored to the floor.

Its just that most of us have been playing long before you guys could hold a controller properly and beat you with skill and experience....that witch takes years to get ....witch you guys will never get because you whine and QQ instead of practice and more practice, thats why scrubs will always be scrubs.

Easy mode on dust is easier than using dual shock, Fact! Now gtfo.

OK. I'll say it again with slightly different words. "We should use the ps3 dualshock when playing public matches to encourage the player base of Dust 514. We should do this to grow a game we enjoy." To those who say a mouse isn't more accurate/better than a ps3 thumbstick... are you serious?

The day before Uprising was release was nearly 10,000 people online, maybe more, i can't remember exactly how many. The day after Uprising, the player base dropped to 4,000 and slowly have been going down to the current 3,000. The most significant change in Uprising was the HORRIBLE mouse settings.

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really?
the auto aim and aim assist make the controller my preference any day, which makes AR (scrambler, SMG, HMG etc.) complete easy mode if it wasn't already...

People who use the controller kill the game when I get shot around the corner...

Easy mode on dust is easier than using dualshock, Fact! Now gtfo.

Op just give up mate, I have, we're out numbered on these forums by all these try hards, the ones making a case for easy mode/mouse and keyboard are the same ones proto stomping in pub matches. They won't be happy until nobody is left playing the game anymore.

Sorry spaceman, the keyboard isn't any better than the controller, emulation ensures that!
Just make sure you are prepared to try and stop the kb/m users when they ask for the emulation to be removed!

Sorry spaceman, the keyboard isn't any better than the controller, emulation ensures that!
Just make sure you are prepared to try and stop the kb/m users when they ask for the emulation to be removed!

CCP have added a mouse emulator to the DS3, and an Analog Stick emulator to the mouse, talking about confusing things. I actually feel more comfortable with the DS3 now, that i do with the mouse... the DS3 feels more a mouse than the mouse does.

Some times you do very weird things CCP.....

Tired of this shi# really don't care anymore. I enjoy the game regardless and play to have fun. Most people take this game way to seriously and tend be the unpleasant characters who find their way onto the forums. My opinion still stands that in any fps type game the keyboard and mouse remains far superior to a dualshock 3 controller. I am prepared to admit that I have not tried keyboard and mouse in this game.

Dude stop over reacting, if you notice me and banning argue a little on page 2.
The kb/m on here is weird, they have emulated it to the controller, and I understood why, if kb/m is your preference the emulator won't stop you, but it won't give you easy mode!

Yeah like I said they are trying to keep the 2 on a level playing field!
Its a lot harder than it sounds! At least they are trying!

After the conversation with have in this topic yesterday, i decided to give the DS3 a proper go.. played with it for about 4 hours none stop, after 1 hour of playing it stated to feel like the mouse should feel. That is very weird for me ... considering that i always sucked with the DS3. Having say that.. is making me a bit lazy, i miss the multitasking and mental concentration need it for the mouse... the DS3 feels lazy some how ...

The M/KB users are just PC fanboys who are to lazy to learn how to use a controller.

Isn't great that you can play a console FPS with a mouse and kick arse??? You understand, however, for the longevity of Dust 514 we require ps3 console dualshock controller users to play this free download, correct? I already know the responses, but please, send them anyway. I use my mouse when I work, my ps3 controller when I play Dust, but do as you please. Just understand that when you use a mouse/keyboard outside of planetary conquest you are killing a game you enjoy. Got it? You don't, mostly, but maybe you'll WAKE UP so hear my LOUD MOUTH as I say make Dust 514 grow! Put the mouse away. No "matchmaking" or "player academy" will save noobs from yer mouse. This game rocks, use a controller, give "free downloader" ps3 players a chance. Give Dust 514 a chance to suceed. ...and now, HERE COME THE COMMENTS

Yep, hate losing to people with a mouse. Usually can tell by the accuracy.

Well... mouse users USED to be the core of the game, then CCP decided to **** around with the mouse settings, slowly exterminated all mouse users... and well... the player base numbers you see now is a direct consequence from that. Console gamer's are most likely playing BF3, or COD, or GTA 5 soon, or The last of us, or Diablo 3, or.....you get the idea....

The M/KB users are just PC fanboys who are to lazy to learn how to use a controller.

Mouse input sucks. DS3 input sucks. It's even.