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Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
791
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:44:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:Op just give up mate, I have, we're out numbered on these forums by all these try hards, the ones making a case for easy mode/mouse and keyboard are the same ones proto stomping in pub matches. They won't be happy until nobody is left playing the game anymore.
Sorry spaceman, the keyboard isn't any better than the controller, emulation ensures that! Just make sure you are prepared to try and stop the kb/m users when they ask for the emulation to be removed! |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1510
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:51:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Op just give up mate, I have, we're out numbered on these forums by all these try hards, the ones making a case for easy mode/mouse and keyboard are the same ones proto stomping in pub matches. They won't be happy until nobody is left playing the game anymore. Sorry spaceman, the keyboard isn't any better than the controller, emulation ensures that! Just make sure you are prepared to try and stop the kb/m users when they ask for the emulation to be removed!
CCP have added a mouse emulator to the DS3, and an Analog Stick emulator to the mouse, talking about confusing things. I actually feel more comfortable with the DS3 now, that i do with the mouse... the DS3 feels more a mouse than the mouse does.
Some times you do very weird things CCP..... |
Spaceman-Rob
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
172
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:55:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Op just give up mate, I have, we're out numbered on these forums by all these try hards, the ones making a case for easy mode/mouse and keyboard are the same ones proto stomping in pub matches. They won't be happy until nobody is left playing the game anymore. Sorry spaceman, the keyboard isn't any better than the controller, emulation ensures that! Just make sure you are prepared to try and stop the kb/m users when they ask for the emulation to be removed!
Tired of this shi# really don't care anymore. I enjoy the game regardless and play to have fun. Most people to take this game way to seriously and tend be the unpleasant characters who find their way onto the forums. My opinion still stands that in any fps type game the keyboard and mouse remains far superior to a dualshock 3 controller. I am prepared to admit that I have not tried keyboard and mouse in this game. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
791
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:57:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Op just give up mate, I have, we're out numbered on these forums by all these try hards, the ones making a case for easy mode/mouse and keyboard are the same ones proto stomping in pub matches. They won't be happy until nobody is left playing the game anymore. Sorry spaceman, the keyboard isn't any better than the controller, emulation ensures that! Just make sure you are prepared to try and stop the kb/m users when they ask for the emulation to be removed! CCP have added a mouse emulator to the DS3, and an Analog Stick emulator to the mouse, talking about confusing things. I actually feel more comfortable with the DS3 now, that i do with the mouse... the DS3 feels more a mouse than the mouse does. Some times you do very weird things CCP.....
Yeah like I said they are trying to keep the 2 on a level playing field! Its a lot harder than it sounds! At least they are trying! |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
791
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:00:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Op just give up mate, I have, we're out numbered on these forums by all these try hards, the ones making a case for easy mode/mouse and keyboard are the same ones proto stomping in pub matches. They won't be happy until nobody is left playing the game anymore. Sorry spaceman, the keyboard isn't any better than the controller, emulation ensures that! Just make sure you are prepared to try and stop the kb/m users when they ask for the emulation to be removed! Tired of this shi# really don't care anymore. I enjoy the game regardless and play to have fun. Most people take this game way to seriously and tend be the unpleasant characters who find their way onto the forums. My opinion still stands that in any fps type game the keyboard and mouse remains far superior to a dualshock 3 controller. I am prepared to admit that I have not tried keyboard and mouse in this game.
Dude stop over reacting, if you notice me and banning argue a little on page 2. The kb/m on here is weird, they have emulated it to the controller, and I understood why, if kb/m is your preference the emulator won't stop you, but it won't give you easy mode! |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Svartur Bjorn Neo Terra Empire
373
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:05:00 -
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i was 100% kb/m.. then the new ds3 changes happened.
there is definitely a difference. and its not in favour of the kbm i can tell you that for sure.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1129676#post1129676 |
Spaceman-Rob
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
172
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:05:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Op just give up mate, I have, we're out numbered on these forums by all these try hards, the ones making a case for easy mode/mouse and keyboard are the same ones proto stomping in pub matches. They won't be happy until nobody is left playing the game anymore. Sorry spaceman, the keyboard isn't any better than the controller, emulation ensures that! Just make sure you are prepared to try and stop the kb/m users when they ask for the emulation to be removed! Tired of this shi# really don't care anymore. I enjoy the game regardless and play to have fun. Most people take this game way to seriously and tend be the unpleasant characters who find their way onto the forums. My opinion still stands that in any fps type game the keyboard and mouse remains far superior to a dualshock 3 controller. I am prepared to admit that I have not tried keyboard and mouse in this game. Dude stop over reacting, if you notice me and banning argue a little on page 2. The kb/m on here is weird, they have emulated it to the controller, and I understood why, if kb/m is your preference the emulator won't stop you, but it won't give you easy mode!
I'm not having a go at you I m just a little tired of being quoted in this thread. Turns out my comments are quite controversial and rub people up the wrong way. My mission on these forums now is to stay away from the controversy. I'm to sensitive for this shi# lol |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1510
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:08:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Op just give up mate, I have, we're out numbered on these forums by all these try hards, the ones making a case for easy mode/mouse and keyboard are the same ones proto stomping in pub matches. They won't be happy until nobody is left playing the game anymore. Sorry spaceman, the keyboard isn't any better than the controller, emulation ensures that! Just make sure you are prepared to try and stop the kb/m users when they ask for the emulation to be removed! CCP have added a mouse emulator to the DS3, and an Analog Stick emulator to the mouse, talking about confusing things. I actually feel more comfortable with the DS3 now, that i do with the mouse... the DS3 feels more a mouse than the mouse does. Some times you do very weird things CCP..... Yeah like I said they are trying to keep the 2 on a level playing field! Its a lot harder than it sounds! At least they are trying!
After the conversation with have in this topic yesterday, i decided to give the DS3 a proper go.. played with it for about 4 hours none stop, after 1 hour of playing it stated to feel like the mouse should feel. That is very weird for me ... considering that i always sucked with the DS3. Having say that.. is making me a bit lazy, i miss the multitasking and mental concentration need it for the mouse... the DS3 feels lazy some how ... |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
791
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:24:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Op just give up mate, I have, we're out numbered on these forums by all these try hards, the ones making a case for easy mode/mouse and keyboard are the same ones proto stomping in pub matches. They won't be happy until nobody is left playing the game anymore. Sorry spaceman, the keyboard isn't any better than the controller, emulation ensures that! Just make sure you are prepared to try and stop the kb/m users when they ask for the emulation to be removed! CCP have added a mouse emulator to the DS3, and an Analog Stick emulator to the mouse, talking about confusing things. I actually feel more comfortable with the DS3 now, that i do with the mouse... the DS3 feels more a mouse than the mouse does. Some times you do very weird things CCP..... Yeah like I said they are trying to keep the 2 on a level playing field! Its a lot harder than it sounds! At least they are trying! After the conversation with have in this topic yesterday, i decided to give the DS3 a proper go.. played with it for about 4 hours none stop, after 1 hour of playing it stated to feel like the mouse should feel. That is very weird for me ... considering that i always sucked with the DS3. Having say that.. is making me a bit lazy, i miss the multitasking and mental concentration need it for the mouse... the DS3 feels lazy some how ...
Its meant to be, in its weird kinda way, its from the couch input device! Im sure CCP will put a little kore work on the mouse, they did quite a bif in .4 removed turning caps ndw smoothing system Radial menu tweaked
if they decide it needs a little more tweaking, then all the better, but remember the controller is the native device, so the os is capable kf conveying its information directly into the game, until ps4, the kb/m works via an interpreter! |
Full Metal Rambo
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.09.29 12:28:00 -
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Something to think about.
If mouse users do just as well or even better using the DS3, then which one is the "Easy Mode" that people keep complaining about? |
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Jayquan18
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
115
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Posted - 2013.09.29 13:01:00 -
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The M/KB users are just PC fanboys who are to lazy to learn how to use a controller. |
Full Metal Rambo
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.09.29 13:16:00 -
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Jayquan18 wrote:The M/KB users are just PC fanboys who are to lazy to learn how to use a controller.
Ouch. that hit me square in the face. Yeah I feel comfortable with a mouse even if I'm handicapped in cqc. |
Stevez WingYip
Operation Wolf Pack
4
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Posted - 2013.09.29 13:46:00 -
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p q wrote:Isn't great that you can play a console FPS with a mouse and kick arse??? You understand, however, for the longevity of Dust 514 we require ps3 console dualshock controller users to play this free download, correct? I already know the responses, but please, send them anyway. I use my mouse when I work, my ps3 controller when I play Dust, but do as you please. Just understand that when you use a mouse/keyboard outside of planetary conquest you are killing a game you enjoy. Got it? You don't, mostly, but maybe you'll WAKE UP so hear my LOUD MOUTH as I say make Dust 514 grow! Put the mouse away. No "matchmaking" or "player academy" will save noobs from yer mouse. This game rocks, use a controller, give "free downloader" ps3 players a chance. Give Dust 514 a chance to suceed. ...and now, HERE COME THE COMMENTS
Yep, hate losing to people with a mouse. Usually can tell by the accuracy. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1512
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Posted - 2013.09.29 13:53:00 -
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Stevez WingYip wrote:p q wrote:Isn't great that you can play a console FPS with a mouse and kick arse??? You understand, however, for the longevity of Dust 514 we require ps3 console dualshock controller users to play this free download, correct? I already know the responses, but please, send them anyway. I use my mouse when I work, my ps3 controller when I play Dust, but do as you please. Just understand that when you use a mouse/keyboard outside of planetary conquest you are killing a game you enjoy. Got it? You don't, mostly, but maybe you'll WAKE UP so hear my LOUD MOUTH as I say make Dust 514 grow! Put the mouse away. No "matchmaking" or "player academy" will save noobs from yer mouse. This game rocks, use a controller, give "free downloader" ps3 players a chance. Give Dust 514 a chance to suceed. ...and now, HERE COME THE COMMENTS Yep, hate losing to people with a mouse. Usually can tell by the accuracy.
Yeah me too, the mouse emulator for the DS3 is super accurate ... ohh... hold on, you was talking about the actual "mouse", right ? Sorry, i getting confuse with what is what at the moment ... |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles
144
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Posted - 2013.09.29 13:57:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Crash Monster wrote:I don't have much say on the KB/M vs DS3 issue... but I do think it's stupid to call one or the other of them the "core of the game" because with the numbers we have nobody is the core of much of anything.
Self important sanctimonious asswads. Well... mouse users USED to be the core of the game, then CCP decided to **** around with the mouse settings, slowly exterminated all mouse users... and well... the player base numbers you see now is a direct consequence from that. Console gamer's are most likely playing BF3, or COD, or GTA 5 soon, or The last of us, or Diablo 3, or.....you get the idea....
No no and no? EVERYONE but a select few have ALWAYS been DS3.... and we are talking about the top slayers in the game. you go through top 100 on leaderboard's and there is very few M/KB users.
Even when DUST had good aiming mechanic's and there was no aim assist in the game that worked. There was very few M/KB users... and the most experienced players in DUST wouldn't be able to tell you for sure one way or the other unless they know them personally.
This magical world where everyone is using KB/M doesn't exist... and the idea that the consol World doesnt run mouses NON stop is just pathetic.
Example 1 http://www.penguinunited.com/ Will convert any ps3 game into Mouse and keyboard for 60 bux.... oh noes?!?!?!
Example 2 http://www.splitfish.com/index.php/en/products/fragfx-shark-ps3-v2013 Specificly made mouse peripheral for playstation
http://www.ctrlaltkill.org/2010/10/17/hands-on-frag-fx-shark-with-cod-champ-dennis-dozier/ And here is the top CoD champion praising the mouse peripheral from FragFX... Your own lame game example of what you want to make DUST like and...
The truth of mouse and keyboard vs Gamepad is they are both dead technologies... We are arguing about the VHS vs beta when DVD's are coming out soon.
We are moving to full Virtual reality and real space movements. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3b4w749Tud8 Notice him playing a FPS? ;) |
Athena Sentinel
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
102
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Posted - 2013.09.29 13:58:00 -
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I don't understand the its OP and I don't do it NERF IT!!
If you think something is OP use it. Really you think Mouse is that powerful, then use it. Don't cry about how others are using it, you don't, so you want to ruin it for them, for you.... Why don't you just ask CCP for a handicap? Make the game easier for you to compensate for all the other players that out skill you?
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Rei Shepard
Spectre II
641
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Posted - 2013.09.29 19:31:00 -
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Jayquan18 wrote:The M/KB users are just PC fanboys who are to lazy to learn how to use a controller.
Yes let us pick up the DS3 for this one game we bought our PS3 for....i have 0 games on this thing and all my new games are bought for PC, because mine runs circles around this fossil of outdated tech...
On your PS4, yeah runs on PC hardware, have fun trying to get KBM support away from that....
Besides we wouldnt be here if they had not said that they were supporting KBM, fact is they lied to us. |
Admonishment
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
15
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Posted - 2013.09.29 20:34:00 -
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Melchiah ARANeAE wrote:Mouse input sucks. DS3 input sucks. It's even.
Lol I use the mouse a lot and decided to try the controller again yesterday, there is a trade off. The mouse you have more precision with and with the controller its a little easier to move around while aiming and hacking. Still got the same amount of kills but with the controller I could aim up close faster with my sniper rifle. There really isn't much of an advantage over either one, you give up one thing for another with how its set up now. For the people saying mouse users have an advantage, pick up the keyboard and put the controller down and try it if you haven't yet. It really just depends on the player. I am effective with both with little difference. |
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