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Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.09.28 10:23:00 -
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You should be please that some people is using the mouse right now, since all that people have been in a huge disadvantage all the way throughout Uprising. I went 28-3 with my first go at the aimbot the other day.. and i honestly suck with the DS3, with the mouse i just about manage 7-7, or sometimes 10-6 in a VERY good match. You shouldn't encourage me to use the DS3, you risking the aimbot getting a huge NERF. |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.09.28 10:37:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:You should be please that some people is using the mouse right now, since all that people have been in a huge disadvantage all the way throughout Uprising. I went 28-3 with my first go at the aimbot the other day.. and i honestly suck with the DS3, with the mouse i just about manage 7-7, or sometimes 10-6 in a VERY good match. You shouldn't encourage me to use the DS3, you risking the aimbot getting a huge NERF. Dude there is no aimbot, its aim assist, CCP haven't changed despite looking at it, their happy with it, I don't use, I still beat those that do, Im happy with it! Deal with it! Maybe you are just poor t using a mouse!
I using the sniper rifle right now.. is the only weapon at the moment that is useful for mouse users. I have to stay a mid range in battles to avoid the over powering aimbot, in CQC the aimbot beats the mouse EASILY. |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.09.28 11:12:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:I don't have much say on the KB/M vs DS3 issue... but I do think it's stupid to call one or the other of them the "core of the game" because with the numbers we have nobody is the core of much of anything.
Self important sanctimonious asswads.
Well... mouse users USED to be the core of the game, then CCP decided to **** around with the mouse settings, slowly exterminated all mouse users... and well... the player base numbers you see now is a direct consequence from that. Console gamer's are most likely playing BF3, or COD, or GTA 5 soon, or The last of us, or Diablo 3, or.....you get the idea.... |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.09.28 11:26:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Well... mouse users USED to be the core of the game, then CCP decided to **** around with the mouse settings, slowly exterminated all mouse users... and well... the player base numbers you see now is a direct consequence from that. Console gamer's are most likely playing BF3, or COD, or GTA 5 soon, or The last of us, or Diablo 3, or.....you get the idea.... So then you are saying mouse users all love the game and would be here if only the mouse worked better? Give me a break. This core of the game crap comes from segments, such as vets, who don't give a crap about the game but only how they can "rule" in it since they've been here a long time -- no matter what that does to game play experience for new users. Spare me the bullsh*t.
The day before Uprising was release was nearly 10,000 people online, maybe more, i can't remember exactly how many. The day after Uprising, the player base dropped to 4,000 and slowly have been going down to the current 3,000. The most significant change in Uprising was the HORRIBLE mouse settings. |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.09.28 11:34:00 -
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p q wrote:Alright. Does anyone really think that a good mouse setup is less accurate than a ps3 controller? If a controller is better why do the best use a mouse?
How the hell you know who is using what ? Do you ask everyone you play against what Control they using ? Maybe the person that is killing you all the time is a Pro DS3 user, and in you delusional head you think that HAVE to be a mouse user, because its to good to be true... it couldn't possible be that you just SUCK at games. |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.09.28 11:43:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Right Im gonna sort this out right now! Controller is not more important than kb/m kb/m is not more important than controller
Your input method does not, should not and will not determine the metagame! Metagame is determined by the player!
Your input is nothing more than a preference, this not a hardcore skill based game! This is not the unreal tournement! There is NO Aimbot, it is an aim assistt, it is designed to stop chop strafing and bunny hopping!
The kb/m works via a controller emulator, the input of the kb/m is converted into controller input before being parsed to the system.
There are many positive reasons why this is done! By doimg this the main thing is to eliminate hardware improvememts, period!
This is a game where tactics and intelligence rule, if you do not wish to play this way kindly leave and don't let the dorr hit you on the way out!
Bull **** .... if what you saying is true, why CCP is constantly nerfing the mouse ? Why the hell they haven't given mouse users Raw Input yet ? even if that DS3 users have an OP aimbot right now ?
Everything CCP have been doing since Uprising, is ******* mouse users none stop. |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.09.28 12:09:00 -
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p q wrote:So, most agree that a mouse is more accurate than a thumbstick. Amazing. Have you ever wondered why pc users use mice instead of thumbssticks? Or touchpads? Or rollerballs? The mouse is an obvious advantage in any application. Put it away and use a controller in public matches to further Dust 514. Or be greedy and the game sees less growth
You have the full thing outside down .... Dust 514 growth is been practically ZERO since critics complained that the KB/M support was "Inadequate", which by the way ... that was one of the main reason why some critics given Dust very poor scores.
In the Eyes of many people and critics... Dust 514 connection with PC's was the Selling point of the game. First game with the potential to appeal to PC gamer's, that other hows will NEVER touch a console. |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.09.28 13:08:00 -
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p q wrote:OK. I'll say it again with slightly different words. "We should use the ps3 dualshock when playing public matches to encourage the player base of Dust 514. We should do this to grow a game we enjoy." To those who say a mouse isn't more accurate/better than a ps3 thumbstick... are you serious?
If given the choice, most people will rather use the mouse. Is that really that hard to understand ? People only uses the DS3, because they don't have any other options in most PS3 games. |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.09.28 13:53:00 -
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Ynned Ivanova wrote:No its not hard because its the superior control method, but putting mouse control in a console fps was a naive move by CCP.
The PS3 SUPPORTS KB/M ... Sony added KB/M support to their console with the intention of been use.
HINT ; The XBOX 360 doesn't supports KB/M.
CCP is just using what is AVAILABLE to them.... If you want to complaint to anyone, you should be directing your complains to Sony, is their foul that you can use a mouse in Dust 514. |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.09.28 14:02:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:CCP is just using what is AVAILABLE to them.... If you want to complaint to anyone, you should be directing your complains to Sony, is their foul that you can use a mouse in Dust 514. How many things are you going to hide behind?
hiding behind the facts, is not hiding.
The PS3 supports KB/M, none of all the other consoles does. CCP provably choose the PS3 SPECIFICALLY for that reason, because 95% of their fan base are PC users. |
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Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.09.28 14:15:00 -
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p q wrote:Alright. Beating my head against a wall here... We have established that the mouse is the better aiming device. There is no doubt. THE POINT IS: The ps3 user that downloads Dust 514 is a console player w/o a mouse, and we, the "advanced" Dust 514 community, should only use our mice in planetary conquest. In public matches, we should nuture "ps3 free downloaders" instead of killing them with five AR, mouse-guided bullets. Do what you wanna do. I just want Dust to thrive. Before you make a "matchmaking" comment concerning this topic, consult your mostly logical brain. Thrice.
Fail logic ... I can kill them with five AR, aimbot-guided bullets, with the DS3.... After all i have maxed nearly all my AR skills. Provably easier with the DS3, considering that the aimbot negates bullet spread and recoil.
I been trying to be nice by using the mouse .... but now... I just going to abuse the aimbot like everyone else...morons .. |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:51:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Op just give up mate, I have, we're out numbered on these forums by all these try hards, the ones making a case for easy mode/mouse and keyboard are the same ones proto stomping in pub matches. They won't be happy until nobody is left playing the game anymore. Sorry spaceman, the keyboard isn't any better than the controller, emulation ensures that! Just make sure you are prepared to try and stop the kb/m users when they ask for the emulation to be removed!
CCP have added a mouse emulator to the DS3, and an Analog Stick emulator to the mouse, talking about confusing things. I actually feel more comfortable with the DS3 now, that i do with the mouse... the DS3 feels more a mouse than the mouse does.
Some times you do very weird things CCP..... |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:08:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Op just give up mate, I have, we're out numbered on these forums by all these try hards, the ones making a case for easy mode/mouse and keyboard are the same ones proto stomping in pub matches. They won't be happy until nobody is left playing the game anymore. Sorry spaceman, the keyboard isn't any better than the controller, emulation ensures that! Just make sure you are prepared to try and stop the kb/m users when they ask for the emulation to be removed! CCP have added a mouse emulator to the DS3, and an Analog Stick emulator to the mouse, talking about confusing things. I actually feel more comfortable with the DS3 now, that i do with the mouse... the DS3 feels more a mouse than the mouse does. Some times you do very weird things CCP..... Yeah like I said they are trying to keep the 2 on a level playing field! Its a lot harder than it sounds! At least they are trying!
After the conversation with have in this topic yesterday, i decided to give the DS3 a proper go.. played with it for about 4 hours none stop, after 1 hour of playing it stated to feel like the mouse should feel. That is very weird for me ... considering that i always sucked with the DS3. Having say that.. is making me a bit lazy, i miss the multitasking and mental concentration need it for the mouse... the DS3 feels lazy some how ... |
Banning Hammer
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Posted - 2013.09.29 13:53:00 -
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Stevez WingYip wrote:p q wrote:Isn't great that you can play a console FPS with a mouse and kick arse??? You understand, however, for the longevity of Dust 514 we require ps3 console dualshock controller users to play this free download, correct? I already know the responses, but please, send them anyway. I use my mouse when I work, my ps3 controller when I play Dust, but do as you please. Just understand that when you use a mouse/keyboard outside of planetary conquest you are killing a game you enjoy. Got it? You don't, mostly, but maybe you'll WAKE UP so hear my LOUD MOUTH as I say make Dust 514 grow! Put the mouse away. No "matchmaking" or "player academy" will save noobs from yer mouse. This game rocks, use a controller, give "free downloader" ps3 players a chance. Give Dust 514 a chance to suceed. ...and now, HERE COME THE COMMENTS Yep, hate losing to people with a mouse. Usually can tell by the accuracy.
Yeah me too, the mouse emulator for the DS3 is super accurate ... ohh... hold on, you was talking about the actual "mouse", right ? Sorry, i getting confuse with what is what at the moment ... |
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