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p q
THE OWL SOCIETY DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.09.28 10:16:00 -
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Isn't great that you can play a console FPS with a mouse and kick arse??? You understand, however, for the longevity of Dust 514 we require ps3 console dualshock controller users to play this free download, correct? I already know the responses, but please, send them anyway. I use my mouse when I work, my ps3 controller when I play Dust, but do as you please. Just understand that when you use a mouse/keyboard outside of planetary conquest you are killing a game you enjoy. Got it? You don't, mostly, but maybe you'll WAKE UP so hear my LOUD MOUTH as I say make Dust 514 grow! Put the mouse away. No "matchmaking" or "player academy" will save noobs from yer mouse. This game rocks, use a controller, give "free downloader" ps3 players a chance. Give Dust 514 a chance to suceed. ...and now, HERE COME THE COMMENTS |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
669
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Posted - 2013.09.28 10:18:00 -
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Its best to just let go
and watch that grenades explode in their face XD |
Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
366
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Posted - 2013.09.28 10:22:00 -
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There's many problems with Dust 514, but it's not the mouse and keyboard users. Just saying. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1496
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Posted - 2013.09.28 10:23:00 -
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You should be please that some people is using the mouse right now, since all that people have been in a huge disadvantage all the way throughout Uprising. I went 28-3 with my first go at the aimbot the other day.. and i honestly suck with the DS3, with the mouse i just about manage 7-7, or sometimes 10-6 in a VERY good match. You shouldn't encourage me to use the DS3, you risking the aimbot getting a huge NERF. |
Spaceman-Rob
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
166
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Posted - 2013.09.28 10:29:00 -
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I've said it before and iI'll say it again, mouse and keyboard is easy mode, especially when using scrambler, laser, tac, shotty, forge or sniper rifle. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
786
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Posted - 2013.09.28 10:31:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:You should be please that some people is using the mouse right now, since all that people have been in a huge disadvantage all the way throughout Uprising. I went 28-3 with my first go at the aimbot the other day.. and i honestly suck with the DS3, with the mouse i just about manage 7-7, or sometimes 10-6 in a VERY good match. You shouldn't encourage me to use the DS3, you risking the aimbot getting a huge NERF.
Dude there is no aimbot, its aim assist, CCP haven't changed despite looking at it, their happy with it, I don't use, I still beat those that do, Im happy with it!
Deal with it! Maybe you are just poor t using a mouse! |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1496
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Posted - 2013.09.28 10:37:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:You should be please that some people is using the mouse right now, since all that people have been in a huge disadvantage all the way throughout Uprising. I went 28-3 with my first go at the aimbot the other day.. and i honestly suck with the DS3, with the mouse i just about manage 7-7, or sometimes 10-6 in a VERY good match. You shouldn't encourage me to use the DS3, you risking the aimbot getting a huge NERF. Dude there is no aimbot, its aim assist, CCP haven't changed despite looking at it, their happy with it, I don't use, I still beat those that do, Im happy with it! Deal with it! Maybe you are just poor t using a mouse!
I using the sniper rifle right now.. is the only weapon at the moment that is useful for mouse users. I have to stay a mid range in battles to avoid the over powering aimbot, in CQC the aimbot beats the mouse EASILY. |
fawkuima juggalo
Pawns and Kings The Superpowers
51
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Posted - 2013.09.28 10:38:00 -
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na your rite... iwas gonna start till i read this. i mite f around with it |
Beld Errmon
Evocatius
894
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Posted - 2013.09.28 10:43:00 -
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another kid gets pwned by a pro controller user comes to the forums to kick the KB/M scapegoat, too stupid or new to realise that KB/M support in dust is a pale crappy shadow of how it used to be. |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
554
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Posted - 2013.09.28 10:46:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:another kid gets pwned by a pro controller user comes to the forums to kick the KB/M scapegoat, too stupid or new to realise that KB/M support in dust is a pale crappy shadow of how it used to be.
Exactly... Scrubs getting worked by DS3 and blaming kb/m... |
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M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
102
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Posted - 2013.09.28 10:58:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again, mouse and keyboard is easy mode, especially when using scrambler, laser, tac, shotty, forge or sniper rifle.
Spaceman-rob, we all ready determined you're horrible with the DS3 and never used the kb/m so quit contributing to something you know nothing about. .
Use the KB/M first to see how terrible it is before you post about how OP it is.. Yet again like others have said before me just another horrible player getting raped by a controller and blaming m/kb.. if its so amazing maybe you can use it to get above a 2kdr.. lololol |
p q
THE OWL SOCIETY DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.09.28 10:59:00 -
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Mouse/keyboard users are the core of this game right now, and I have no beef with them. Without them there is no metagame. What I am saying is that for Dust 514 to grow, ps3 console owners who download this free game must continue playing instead of quitting. They get moused by a few AR shots and never play again. We can correct this; we can use ps3 controllers instead of mice outside of planetary conquest. It is in our interest to see Dust expand, correct?? Do what thou wilt. Break out the dualshock when you are not in a planetary conquest if you like and give the console players a reason to keep playing. Or use "steriods" and win. Follow your soul. As a side note, the microcasm of Dust 514 is fascinating. It's like Easter Island, or modern global culture today. I believe that because we have mostly lost any sense of "larger goals" and focus on selfish gain that modern society will continue to collapse. Oh well. "Do what thou wilt". |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1482
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Posted - 2013.09.28 11:04:00 -
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I don't have much say on the KB/M vs DS3 issue... but I do think it's stupid to call one or the other of them the "core of the game" because with the numbers we have nobody is the core of much of anything.
Self important sanctimonious asswads. |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
555
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Posted - 2013.09.28 11:07:00 -
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p q wrote:Mouse/keyboard users are the core of this game right now, and I have no beef with them. Without them there is no metagame. What I am saying is that for Dust 514 to grow, ps3 console owners who download this free game must continue playing instead of quitting. They get moused by a few AR shots and never play again. We can correct this; we can use ps3 controllers instead of mice outside of planetary conquest. It is in our interest to see Dust expand, correct?? Do what thou wilt. Break out the dualshock when you are not in a planetary conquest if you like and give the console players a reason to keep playing. Or use "steriods" and win. Follow your soul. As a side note, the microcasm of Dust 514 is fascinating. It's like Easter Island, or modern global culture today. I believe that because we have mostly lost any sense of "larger goals" and focus on selfish gain that modern society will continue to collapse. Oh well. "Do what thou wilt".
Please provide proof that kb/m users are the core of Dust I've played sense private trials and constantly play with and against the best players in and out of PC and i know of maybe 6 people that use kb/m...
For you to try to pull random facts out of your ass shows how ignorant you are on the subject... |
Spaceman-Rob
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
167
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Posted - 2013.09.28 11:11:00 -
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M McManus wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again, mouse and keyboard is easy mode, especially when using scrambler, laser, tac, shotty, forge or sniper rifle. Spaceman-rob, we all ready determined you're horrible with the DS3 and never used the kb/m so quit contributing to something you know nothing about. . Use the KB/M first to see how terrible it is before you post about how OP it is.. Yet again like others have said before me just another horrible player getting raped by a controller and blaming m/kb.. if its so amazing maybe you can use it to get above a 2kdr.. lololol
Im happy with my kd thank you very much, As anybody who's played with me will tell you I mostly use starter fits even against proto scrubs like you, and usually hit the top 3 on the scoreboard. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1498
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Posted - 2013.09.28 11:12:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:I don't have much say on the KB/M vs DS3 issue... but I do think it's stupid to call one or the other of them the "core of the game" because with the numbers we have nobody is the core of much of anything.
Self important sanctimonious asswads.
Well... mouse users USED to be the core of the game, then CCP decided to **** around with the mouse settings, slowly exterminated all mouse users... and well... the player base numbers you see now is a direct consequence from that. Console gamer's are most likely playing BF3, or COD, or GTA 5 soon, or The last of us, or Diablo 3, or.....you get the idea.... |
LudiKure ninda
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
22
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Posted - 2013.09.28 11:17:00 -
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So you guys sayn that M/KB will make my gun game better...? |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1483
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Posted - 2013.09.28 11:21:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Well... mouse users USED to be the core of the game, then CCP decided to **** around with the mouse settings, slowly exterminated all mouse users... and well... the player base numbers you see now is a direct consequence from that. Console gamer's are most likely playing BF3, or COD, or GTA 5 soon, or The last of us, or Diablo 3, or.....you get the idea....
So then you are saying mouse users all love the game and would be here if only the mouse worked better? Give me a break. This core of the game crap comes from segments, such as vets, who don't give a crap about the game but only how they can "rule" in it since they've been here a long time -- no matter what that does to game play experience for new users.
Spare me the bullsh*t. |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
413
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Posted - 2013.09.28 11:21:00 -
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p q wrote:Isn't great that you can play a console FPS with a mouse and kick arse??? You understand, however, for the longevity of Dust 514 we require ps3 console dualshock controller users to play this free download, correct? I already know the responses, but please, send them anyway. I use my mouse when I work, my ps3 controller when I play Dust, but do as you please. Just understand that when you use a mouse/keyboard outside of planetary conquest you are killing a game you enjoy. Got it? You don't, mostly, but maybe you'll WAKE UP so hear my LOUD MOUTH as I say make Dust 514 grow! Put the mouse away. No "matchmaking" or "player academy" will save noobs from yer mouse. This game rocks, use a controller, give "free downloader" ps3 players a chance. Give Dust 514 a chance to suceed. ...and now, HERE COME THE COMMENTS
That controller sucks donkey d*cks. Why would you limit yourself to an inferior tool or weapon? Mouse use is not killing this game. Please! Stop making up sh*t in you head.
Anyone can use a keyboard and mouse. How hard is it to get that? If some one is going to quit the game because they can't use the controller that well rather than use a better device then how is that my fault? That just seems colossally ret*arded.
This is literally the first game or anything for that matter where people actually defend the stock, crap input device et al rather than a better, third party piece of equipment to do a better job.
I guess my hammer is going to scare away all the other repairmen who use a screwdriver to hammer a nail.
I guess my M-16 is going to scare off all those guys using a Red Rider BB gun. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1500
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Posted - 2013.09.28 11:26:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Well... mouse users USED to be the core of the game, then CCP decided to **** around with the mouse settings, slowly exterminated all mouse users... and well... the player base numbers you see now is a direct consequence from that. Console gamer's are most likely playing BF3, or COD, or GTA 5 soon, or The last of us, or Diablo 3, or.....you get the idea.... So then you are saying mouse users all love the game and would be here if only the mouse worked better? Give me a break. This core of the game crap comes from segments, such as vets, who don't give a crap about the game but only how they can "rule" in it since they've been here a long time -- no matter what that does to game play experience for new users. Spare me the bullsh*t.
The day before Uprising was release was nearly 10,000 people online, maybe more, i can't remember exactly how many. The day after Uprising, the player base dropped to 4,000 and slowly have been going down to the current 3,000. The most significant change in Uprising was the HORRIBLE mouse settings. |
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
413
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Posted - 2013.09.28 11:26:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again, mouse and keyboard is easy mode, especially when using scrambler, laser, tac, shotty, forge or sniper rifle.
Good. I like easy mode. What's your point? No other venue for you to be Mr. Bigshot? The e-peening in this game is getting tiresome.
Oh well, back to tilling the field by hand. Those damn tractors. They're easy mode. |
p q
THE OWL SOCIETY DARKSTAR ARMY
16
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Posted - 2013.09.28 11:27:00 -
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Alright. Does anyone really think that a good mouse setup is less accurate than a ps3 controller? If a controller is better why do the best use a mouse? |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
414
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Posted - 2013.09.28 11:31:00 -
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p q wrote:Alright. Does anyone really think that a good mouse setup is less accurate than a ps3 controller? If a controller is better why do the best use a mouse?
I use a Frag FX Shark. Half controller "chuck" and half mouse. The controller buttons are on the mouse and the chuck has a wheel to adjust the sensitivity of the mouse.
If I'm in a vehicle I use the regular controller; but, then grab the mouse for shooting. Or, if gunning I use the reg controller right stick for general aiming while using the mouse for fine aiming.
Between the game settings for mouse and the controller you can get a good range of sensitivity.
You can swap the buttons too. |
Spaceman-Rob
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
168
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Posted - 2013.09.28 11:34:00 -
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p q wrote:Alright. Does anyone really think that a good mouse setup is less accurate than a ps3 controller? If a controller is better why do the best use a mouse?
I don't but let's face it, these forums are full of keyboard and mouse neck bearded warriors from eve who rule this game, who will tell you otherwise, that's why I'm being jumped on from all sides. F*ck them, let's hope one day they all feck off back to their desktop. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1500
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Posted - 2013.09.28 11:34:00 -
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p q wrote:Alright. Does anyone really think that a good mouse setup is less accurate than a ps3 controller? If a controller is better why do the best use a mouse?
How the hell you know who is using what ? Do you ask everyone you play against what Control they using ? Maybe the person that is killing you all the time is a Pro DS3 user, and in you delusional head you think that HAVE to be a mouse user, because its to good to be true... it couldn't possible be that you just SUCK at games. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
786
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Posted - 2013.09.28 11:38:00 -
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Right Im gonna sort this out right now! Controller is not more important than kb/m kb/m is not more important than controller
Your input method does not, should not and will not determine the metagame! Metagame is determined by the player!
Your input is nothing more than a preference, this not a hardcore skill based game! This is not the unreal tournement! There is NO Aimbot, it is an aim assistt, it is designed to stop chop strafing and bunny hopping!
The kb/m works via a controller emulator, the input of the kb/m is converted into controller input before being parsed to the system.
There are many positive reasons why this is done! By doimg this the main thing is to eliminate hardware improvememts, period!
This is a game where tactics and intelligence rule, if you do not wish to play this way kindly leave and don't let the dorr hit you on the way out! |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1500
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Posted - 2013.09.28 11:43:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Right Im gonna sort this out right now! Controller is not more important than kb/m kb/m is not more important than controller
Your input method does not, should not and will not determine the metagame! Metagame is determined by the player!
Your input is nothing more than a preference, this not a hardcore skill based game! This is not the unreal tournement! There is NO Aimbot, it is an aim assistt, it is designed to stop chop strafing and bunny hopping!
The kb/m works via a controller emulator, the input of the kb/m is converted into controller input before being parsed to the system.
There are many positive reasons why this is done! By doimg this the main thing is to eliminate hardware improvememts, period!
This is a game where tactics and intelligence rule, if you do not wish to play this way kindly leave and don't let the dorr hit you on the way out!
Bull **** .... if what you saying is true, why CCP is constantly nerfing the mouse ? Why the hell they haven't given mouse users Raw Input yet ? even if that DS3 users have an OP aimbot right now ?
Everything CCP have been doing since Uprising, is ******* mouse users none stop. |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
415
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Posted - 2013.09.28 11:44:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:p q wrote:Alright. Does anyone really think that a good mouse setup is less accurate than a ps3 controller? If a controller is better why do the best use a mouse? I don't but let's face it, these forums are full of keyboard and mouse neck bearded warriors from eve who rule this game, who will tell you otherwise, that's why I'm being jumped on from all sides. F*ck them, let's hope one day they all feck off back to their desktop.
I honestly don't get the lame defense for the controller by console players. I grew up with the original Atari but you won't hear me defending that controller. A better tool is a better tool. Use it when you can.
I wonderGǪ do you hardcore console users limit your potential in other areas of your life? That must really set you back. |
p q
THE OWL SOCIETY DARKSTAR ARMY
16
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Posted - 2013.09.28 12:00:00 -
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So, most agree that a mouse is more accurate than a thumbstick. Amazing. Have you ever wondered why pc users use mice instead of thumbssticks? Or touchpads? Or rollerballs? The mouse is an obvious advantage in any application. Put it away and use a controller in public matches to further Dust 514. Or be greedy and the game sees less growth |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1502
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Posted - 2013.09.28 12:09:00 -
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p q wrote:So, most agree that a mouse is more accurate than a thumbstick. Amazing. Have you ever wondered why pc users use mice instead of thumbssticks? Or touchpads? Or rollerballs? The mouse is an obvious advantage in any application. Put it away and use a controller in public matches to further Dust 514. Or be greedy and the game sees less growth
You have the full thing outside down .... Dust 514 growth is been practically ZERO since critics complained that the KB/M support was "Inadequate", which by the way ... that was one of the main reason why some critics given Dust very poor scores.
In the Eyes of many people and critics... Dust 514 connection with PC's was the Selling point of the game. First game with the potential to appeal to PC gamer's, that other hows will NEVER touch a console. |
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