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Nguruthos IX
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:19:00 -
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And is there an inaccurate description of their damage in menus? |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:22:00 -
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Let's see, you get 3 of them, they can one-shot most heavies when they're in armor, and you can easily replenish them with nanohives
not to mention the huge blast radius
no other game allows 3 replenishable nades that will OHKO you.
CCP has no idea how to make a FPS and things like this are the result.
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Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:28:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Let's see, you get 3 of them, they can one-shot most heavies when they're in armor, and you can easily replenish them with nanohives
not to mention the huge blast radius
no other game allows 3 replenishable nades that will OHKO you.
CCP has no idea how to make a FPS and things like this are the result.
That'll be one vote for OP. |
JETSTORM1090
Against All Oddz
179
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:29:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:And is there an inaccurate description of their damage in menus?
Noobish and OP |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1302
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:30:00 -
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Everyone hates minmatar gear because we're awesome smg may be the only gear that hasn't been heavily nerffed just yet |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:31:00 -
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UP |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:31:00 -
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I would also like to vote for OP.
Especially with the way they scale - Core Locus do 50% more damage as well as having a larger blast radius. They're like handheld nuclear weapons. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
768
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:31:00 -
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I don't want to say they are OP but prehaps locus grenades could do with a little tweaking!
Fluxes are fine so all in all relatively well balanced! |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
922
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:31:00 -
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locus grenades- slightly OP
Flux grenades- meh, maybe a EWAR effect to take the place of the no killing effect.
AV grenades- why do they even exist in their current form? |
Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:31:00 -
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I guess, is there anybody that really loves grenades and thinks they should stay the way they are?
If so, why? |
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Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:32:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:Everyone hates minmatar gear because we're awesome smg may be the only gear that hasn't been heavily nerffed just yet
They used to be better. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
768
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:32:00 -
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JETSTORM1090 wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:And is there an inaccurate description of their damage in menus? Noobish and OP
Grenades are noobish?
I suppose anything with an AOE is noobish as well then? |
Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:33:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:I don't want to say they are OP but prehaps locus grenades could do with a little tweaking!
Fluxes are fine so all in all relatively well balanced!
I should have specified a question for each type. But thanks for covering all bases.
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Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:34:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:JETSTORM1090 wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:And is there an inaccurate description of their damage in menus? Noobish and OP Grenades are noobish? I suppose anything with an AOE is noobish as well then?
He probably means because anyone can have them and their low req.
Something like a MD takes your main weapon slot and needs some SP and or skill compared to chucking a nade |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1237
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:35:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:I don't want to say they are OP but prehaps locus grenades could do with a little tweaking!
Fluxes are fine so all in all relatively well balanced!
How are fluxes fine?
an even bigger blast radius that's GUARANTEED to strip you of ALL your shields?
it's the same thing as a core locus nade to an armor tanked heavy when used on a shield tanked suit....stupid and OP
again, this is the kind of crap you get in your games when developers have LITERALLY NO IDEA how to balance and implement a FPS |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
6236
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:36:00 -
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Locus grenades need to be reduced to 2 carried in my opinion because the prototype ones are so powerful. |
calvin b
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
630
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:37:00 -
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I have no problem with them. You live by the gun you die by the gun.
Second we have more important things that need to be resolved. One is distance resolution, objects should not be seen thru walls or unable to be seen at all. I can see you, I know your name and stats, you are well within range but my bullets seem to not hit which you makes no since. |
Turtle Hermit Roshi
sNk Syndicate
31
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:38:00 -
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i love the way gernades r currently i love my m-1 locus cook cook cook cook *BOOM  double kills all day |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
367
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:39:00 -
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Locus Grenades-Could use a little change. Maybe give 2 grenades for Proto and Advanced and then 3 for Standard.
Contact Grenades-UP |
Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
340
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:39:00 -
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When folks with Duvolles, damage mods, and fully maxed AR skills choose to just camp and spam core locus nades instead; I think that tells us something. |
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:39:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:Everyone hates minmatar gear because we're awesome smg may be the only gear that hasn't been heavily nerffed just yet They used to be better.
I said heavily :P |
Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:40:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:I don't want to say they are OP but prehaps locus grenades could do with a little tweaking!
Fluxes are fine so all in all relatively well balanced! How are fluxes fine? an even bigger blast radius that's GUARANTEED to strip you of ALL your shields? it's the same thing as a core locus nade to an armor tanked heavy when used on a shield tanked suit....stupid and OP again, this is the kind of crap you get in your games when developers have LITERALLY NO IDEA how to balance and implement a FPS
It would be the same as if there was a nanite-swarm grenade that stripped off all your armor but did not kill you:
As you know, you are alive with 0 shields and 0 armor, you must hit -1 armor to die.
Since flux do not directly kill players they're different. And an anti armor grenade would be equally fair I suppose.
Either one leaves the other half of your HP types and does not kill you directly. |
Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
1835
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:41:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:When folks with Duvolles, damage mods, and fully maxed AR skills choose to just camp and spam core locus nades instead; I think that tells us something.
He might have a point there |
Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
340
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:41:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:I don't want to say they are OP but prehaps locus grenades could do with a little tweaking!
Fluxes are fine so all in all relatively well balanced! How are fluxes fine? an even bigger blast radius that's GUARANTEED to strip you of ALL your shields? it's the same thing as a core locus nade to an armor tanked heavy when used on a shield tanked suit....stupid and OP again, this is the kind of crap you get in your games when developers have LITERALLY NO IDEA how to balance and implement a FPS
Fluxes are fine because they only do one type of damage. Locus melt face no matter your tanking preference. |
Turtle Hermit Roshi
sNk Syndicate
31
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:42:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:I don't want to say they are OP but prehaps locus grenades could do with a little tweaking!
Fluxes are fine so all in all relatively well balanced! How are fluxes fine? an even bigger blast radius that's GUARANTEED to strip you of ALL your shields? it's the same thing as a core locus nade to an armor tanked heavy when used on a shield tanked suit....stupid and OP again, this is the kind of crap you get in your games when developers have LITERALLY NO IDEA how to balance and implement a FPS
dear king kobrah .... you sir are a F A GG O T if you hate this game so much y dont u gtfo (cod ***) quit trying to be cool by being a duche on some games forums seriously people like you disgust me and you sir are pathetic |
Doc Noah
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
573
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:43:00 -
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Grenades are way too effective against heavies and have both a large blast radius and damage. It should be one or the other, not both.
A lot of people are talking about limiting grenade resupply to supply depot only, I kind of like that idea as it makes grenades less spammable and makes tossing one have more emphasis on timing it right. Not to mention nanohives will survive long enough to help teamates before it dies off resupplying only grenades.
So yes, I think grenades are a bit OP both in capability and the mechanics behind it. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
769
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:43:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:I don't want to say they are OP but prehaps locus grenades could do with a little tweaking!
Fluxes are fine so all in all relatively well balanced! How are fluxes fine? an even bigger blast radius that's GUARANTEED to strip you of ALL your shields? it's the same thing as a core locus nade to an armor tanked heavy when used on a shield tanked suit....stupid and OP again, this is the kind of crap you get in your games when developers have LITERALLY NO IDEA how to balance and implement a FPS
Because its a sheild only grenade! Unlike the locus which won't get through most of the time.
I would expect a grenades thats disrupts sheilds and low-level equipment, to disrupt sheilds!
Otherwise I might as well just lob locuses like there is no tommorow.
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Nguruthos IX
PEN 15 CLUB
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:43:00 -
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Turtle Hermit Roshi wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:I don't want to say they are OP but prehaps locus grenades could do with a little tweaking!
Fluxes are fine so all in all relatively well balanced! How are fluxes fine? an even bigger blast radius that's GUARANTEED to strip you of ALL your shields? it's the same thing as a core locus nade to an armor tanked heavy when used on a shield tanked suit....stupid and OP again, this is the kind of crap you get in your games when developers have LITERALLY NO IDEA how to balance and implement a FPS dear king kobrah .... you sir are a F A GG O T if you hate this game so much y dont u gtfo (cod ***) quit trying to be cool by being a duche on some games forums seriously people like you disgust me and you sir are pathetic
Honest question. How old are you? |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
1449
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Posted - 2013.09.26 22:49:00 -
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I say grenades are OP. everyone who plays pc knows that core locus grenades are spammed like crazy.. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1239
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Posted - 2013.09.26 23:18:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:I don't want to say they are OP but prehaps locus grenades could do with a little tweaking!
Fluxes are fine so all in all relatively well balanced! How are fluxes fine? an even bigger blast radius that's GUARANTEED to strip you of ALL your shields? it's the same thing as a core locus nade to an armor tanked heavy when used on a shield tanked suit....stupid and OP again, this is the kind of crap you get in your games when developers have LITERALLY NO IDEA how to balance and implement a FPS Because its a sheild only grenade! Unlike the locus which won't get through most of the time. I would expect a grenades thats disrupts sheilds and low-level equipment, to disrupt sheilds! Otherwise I might as well just lob locuses like there is no tommorow.
Why does that matter? a flux grenade can take out 80%+ of my EHP with an 8 meter blast radius that requires no cooking
a core locus nade will only take out about 40% of my EHP since i'm shield tanked
both are too OP and do their jobs way too well.
you should get TWO, NON REPLENISHABLE grenades with a smaller blast radius and damage reduction. |
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