True, which is why things are changing......

doubt it. The forge and swarm launcher will always be anti TANK weapons. That means they will obliterate anything that is not a tank with ease

Because all AV weapons are designed to take down tanks. A MAV would not be maneuverable enough to make a forge miss or escape swarms consistently. Proto anti tank weapons are the only AV in dust and they already solo tanks. So my gunlogi with 40% passive resist and 5k shields is destroyed by proto forge gunners in 4 shots. So a MAV would be destroyed in 2? And these things could be troop transports? thats an easy 5+ kills. all im sayin. MAVs can not survive in dust, the AV is too strong

Like really

Maybe if it had enough HP without mods it could be fitted purely with repair and resistance plates, but I totally agree at the mo

LLAVs dont kill anyone! A MAV is going to be something people want to get kills with. Like the MTAC (the walker suit). and it, along with the other MAVs, will not be able to escape anti tank weaponry because they are not maneuverable enough. BTW, look at the scout lavs. No one uses them because they suck. all they do is blow up and get no kills. just like future MAVs will

Are the MAVs gonna be APC like? If they are I could see them being faster than tanks, maybe armor somewhere in the rough ballpark of a tank. No big gun, obviously, to justify all of this, just anti infantry weapons at most. This would create the mechanized infantry situation and ground troops would be able to keep up with fast advancing tank forces. Probably would want higher player counts to really make it work well. Of course, that's assuming the MAV is an APC type, I have no idea. At some point a few weeks back I saw someone reference a Mech, then someone said that would be an MTAC or something, I don't know. Anyway, i'm rambling.

I do totally agree with you though. If all AV is balanced around just killing tanks, then yeah, everything else is going to have it pretty rough.

EDIT: APC like I see.

-Sorry sorry . I must correct you there.Im not talking about killing. Im talking about taking hits and surviving. Hell, combined with dam reduction mods and speed they are harder to kill than tanks.
If MAV's had MORE HP and slightly less speed they would outlive both tanks and LLAVs as they are now....
-I know Scouts LAV's suck, i did not start playing yesterday.
-With 4 turrets an MAV will have more HP than an LLAV, more speed than a tank and a LOT of Anti-Infantry Firepower.Just saying, they would have a niche in DUST.Hell, i might even use one to transport my squad....

-Sorry sorry . I must correct you there.Im not talking about killing. Im talking about taking hits and surviving. Hell, combined with dam reduction mods and speed they are harder to kill than tanks.
If MAV's had MORE HP and slightly less speed they would outlive both tanks and LLAVs as they are now....
-I know Scouts LAV's suck, i did not start playing yesterday.
-With 4 turrets an MAV will have more HP than an LLAV, more speed than a tank and a LOT of Anti-Infantry Firepower.Just saying, they would have a niche in DUST.Hell, i might even use one to transport my squad....

So you're complaining that LAVs as they are, are too fast? And that it's not fair they can fit passive shield and armor hardeners?

yeah the MTAC is a MAV walker, like a mini gundam suit. Other MAVs would be APCs, that is confirmed. Dunno what other MAVs there will be, but none of these will be able to fit in tight spaces, turn sharply or reach the speeds like LAVs to doge/escape the anti tank AV. They are extremely simple to use and even more extremely easy mode, theres no way theyd be able to doge them consistently. So yeah... because everything is made to kill tanks these things are going to be dead quick. Waste of SP

Nope,you are putting words in my mouth as usual.trying to troll and failing,as usual. Im saying MAVs do have a role in Dust514.

I'm not trolling at all. You're still complaining that vehicles have any advantage at all over AV.

-Sorry sorry . I must correct you there.Im not talking about killing. Im talking about taking hits and surviving. Hell, combined with dam reduction mods and speed they are harder to kill than tanks.
If MAV's had MORE HP and slightly less speed they would outlive both tanks and LLAVs as they are now....
-I know Scouts LAV's suck, i did not start playing yesterday.
-With 4 turrets an MAV will have more HP than an LLAV, more speed than a tank and a LOT of Anti-Infantry Firepower.Just saying, they would have a niche in DUST.Hell, i might even use one to transport my squad....

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Where did I mention anything about scout LAVs?

Dude, are you on medication?

I'm easy to understand, and type like someone that majored in English without using big, fancy words and some words you only knew because of the American SATs. I also usually put my arguments in a logical, easy to understand, precise manner. That you're saying that, basically tells me you've given up trying to respond to me, because you're just not able to, not because you can't understand what I'm saying.