You probably think I'm just QQing.

Well since 9/10 thread created in this forum is QQ that was the first thought i had about this thread when i came in.

Respect the scrambler rifle. Respect the user who has a scrambler rifle who fires with left mouse clicks that are easy to rapid fire.

Have the tryhards now resorted to using turbo modded controllers with the Scrambler Rifles?

I know they are good weapons and this I don't mind.

I pose this question because I was just in a match, and was killed in my Standard Heavy Suit in about .5 seconds from full HP. I was laying dead on the floor before my HP bars even started to drop.

I have my Shield Upgrade and Armor Upgrade Skills to lvl 5, and was using 1 complex plate for HP buffer.

While I understand it is a powerful weapon, is it really that powerful? It doesn't seem like it should be able to drop me this quickly.

Was this simply due to lag? It didn't seem like I was having difficulties in this regard. Input command was on time, and my framerate was fine.

You probably think I'm just QQing.

EDIT: The person was using a CRW-04 Scrambler Rifle

I've dropped standard heavies in what seems like 0.5 seconds before with a normal DS3. I use the CRW with proficiency 3. Begin with a charge shot to the head then a few rapid fire follow ups, drops most anybody.

I'm pretty sure it was you who did this to me!

Yes it was you. You were just in a match with a bunch of Contract Hunters.

Yes, why yes I was!

I assure you I was not using modded controllers or anything. Just a normal black dualshock 3. It was the CRW with proficiency 3 and 2 enhanced light damage mods to be exact.

EDIT: Oh, now I remember really clearly because Commander Marquess was in my squad, a former Ultramarine. Got kicked because he would not participate in Gallente/Minmatar FW, so now we always have fun whenever we see you guys on the other team.

In your opinion, does this in any way feel "balanced"

Yes, absolutely. I am not using your average diddly daddly scrambler rifle. I am using a higher tier scrambler rifle with high proficiency and multiple damage mods on an Amarr assault firing until I overheat. My fit is pretty much a glass cannon, and if I don't get all my hits to land on target than you'll probably survive and I'll be stuck in the overheat animation with very weak defenses. Also note that I had the high ground on you in the consolidation matrix so your head was an easy target.

And then there is also the fact that the scrambler rifle isn't worth squat up close, the hip fire is really bad.

For those wondering, this happened on spine crescent.

Now I must ask, are you complaining about the particular instance where Commander Marquess and I took two enemies out on the bridge at Alpha? If so, do not forget that Commander Marquess hit you with splash damage of his highly fitted Plasma Cannon before I came in to clean up immediately after.

No, I was in my Standard Minmatar Basic Medium Frame then. It's pretty squishy!

I'm talking about when we were inside the Delta Building. I had followed a Caldari up the stairs, and you were waiting on the small platform up in the side of the structure. I had just began to hose him down when you dropped me.

In your opinion, does this in any way feel "balanced"

Ah, the Consolidation Matrix. Anyways, keep in mind that this particular situation isn't necessarily a CRW + Prof 3 + 1 Complex DMG > Boundless HMG + Prof 5 + 1 Complex DMG. There are several other factors to consider here. Like

1. You were chasing someone so I got you while you were distracted
2. You were in an open area so could of been getting shot by other people as well
3. I had the high ground making you an easy target, especially for headshots

There's a lot more to it than just brute force. I had the clear tactical edge, wouldn't really say that makes the Scrambler Rifle OP. Oh and in case you were wondering since you logged out during the match, the Minmatar did lose.

Have the tryhards now resorted to using turbo modded controllers with the Scrambler Rifles?

I know they are good weapons and this I don't mind.

I pose this question because I was just in a match, and was killed in my Standard Heavy Suit in about .5 seconds from full HP. I was laying dead on the floor before my HP bars even started to drop.

I have my Shield Upgrade and Armor Upgrade Skills to lvl 5, and was using 1 complex plate for HP buffer.

While I understand it is a powerful weapon, is it really that powerful? It doesn't seem like it should be able to drop me this quickly.

Was this simply due to lag? It didn't seem like I was having difficulties in this regard. Input command was on time, and my framerate was fine.

You probably think I'm just QQing.

EDIT: The person was using a CRW-04 Scrambler Rifle

Changed Title to get more attention.

I actually did Rage Quit right after that death. I'm not even gonna try to lie. So enjoy those tears!

I wasn't necessarily asking for how you thought they measured up to each other in that particular situation, it was more of an in general inquiry.

I can tell you with absolute certainty that in the HMG's "optimal" range, I have never killed any suit, not even a Scout in that amount of time with Boundless + Proficiency 5 + 1 Comp. Dmg. Mod. I don't think I've killed anyone that fast at point blank range with this setup and I've been able to sneak up on snipers with it, directly blasting the back of their skull.

That makes me wonder, is the HMG severely underpowered?

I could drop the average suit in a second or less with the Scrambler Rifle if I had good aim.

I could also do that with the pre-ROF/clip-nerf Tactical AR.

One was deemed OP, the other was not...

Yes, yes it is severely UP. It's basically a shotgun, with all the range limitations that entails, with smooth DPS instead of alpha damage. Unless I'm a scout trying to nova knife you from the front, HMGs are not scary.
IMHO, HMGs need a serious dispersion buff. It needs to get tighter faster and have a higher accuracy ceiling.

That makes me wonder, is the HMG severely underpowered?

It could be, I haven't put enough play time into the HMG to really make a proper opinion. However the HMG seems to be more of a damage over time weapon while the scramblers (both pistol and rifle) are high alpha hit and run weapons. They shouldn't have the same initial kill speed, but the HMG should definitely be able to kill more over a prolonged battle.

But I mean, think of it like the scrambler pistol. It has the potential to drop enemies even faster than the scrambler rifle. So how do you defend yourself against that? And what makes the rifle any different?

Have the tryhards now resorted to using turbo modded controllers with the Scrambler Rifles?

I know they are good weapons and this I don't mind.

I pose this question because I was just in a match, and was killed in my Standard Heavy Suit in about .5 seconds from full HP. I was laying dead on the floor before my HP bars even started to drop.

I have my Shield Upgrade and Armor Upgrade Skills to lvl 5, and was using 1 complex plate for HP buffer.

While I understand it is a powerful weapon, is it really that powerful? It doesn't seem like it should be able to drop me this quickly.

Was this simply due to lag? It didn't seem like I was having difficulties in this regard. Input command was on time, and my framerate was fine.

You probably think I'm just QQing.

EDIT: The person was using a CRW-04 Scrambler Rifle

Changed Title to get more attention.

The almighty decaying Omega Plasma Round shall decimate your Filthy Minmatar body!
This has been Marquess Lancaster on Plasma rounds!