Question. How far away do the ScR users engage you? If they engage you in the 45-70m range, they win. However if you catch them up close they are toast, unless they can land a charged headshot (which is like the hardest thing to do in close quarters... ever).
Its all about how you engage someone that outranges you, far too often I have heavies rush me across open areas, only to be mercilessly gunned down by my ScR. If they were to use cover to close in on me they would likely win the conflict, but they don't... so they lose.

Ah, the Consolidation Matrix. Anyways, keep in mind that this particular situation isn't necessarily a CRW + Prof 3 + 1 Complex DMG > Boundless HMG + Prof 5 + 1 Complex DMG. There are several other factors to consider here. Like

1. You were chasing someone so I got you while you were distracted
2. You were in an open area so could of been getting shot by other people as well
3. I had the high ground making you an easy target, especially for headshots

There's a lot more to it than just brute force. I had the clear tactical edge, wouldn't really say that makes the Scrambler Rifle OP. Oh and in case you were wondering since you logged out during the match, the Minmatar did lose.

Aero is never without me.... except for this week..... but he is never alone. Never.

No, the ScrR in general drops me pretty quickly. Quicker than a Duvolle in most cases. The case which inspired this thread was kind of the straw that broke the camel's back.

I'm not saying the ScrR is overpowered. When I'm in my medium suit, I can evade and thereby negate some of it's DPS, in a heavy suit, you have no choice but to tank the damage-from everything.

Thats fine and all, but he was the only enemy shooting at me. This doesn't change the fact that if one guy can drop an almost 1200 HP Heavy in this amount of time, something is off balance.

You're right. A lot of the semi-auto weapons in the game have a completely ridiculous RoF. I want to see someone pull a trigger 12 times in 1 second or more.

#bionicfinger

Most Scr users use 2-3 damage mods, most Duvolle users do not, its a world of diffrence, how much EHP does your setup have ?

I can do that honestly. With an Imperial SCR, 3 complex damage mods and Proficiency to lvl 5, it is entirely possible to down a heavy in 1-2 seconds but a few factors need to be considered. For me to get a heavy down in 1 second, i NEED to hit my initial charge shot on his head and all of my follow-up shots need to hit his head as well. In my proto suit (with bonus skills), i can fire 15 shots before i overheat (or 1 charged, 14 follw-up) in a little less than 2 seconds. Impossible, you say? Think about this: both the ASCR and the SCR, at least in proto levels, have the same RoF. Have you seen how fast rounds fly out of the ASCR? And would it now seem impossible for a finger to mimic that speed? I got accused of using a turbo/modded controller last week, but I only use a white DS3. Maybe the color is lucky?

Now, with that said, it isn't without its hindrances.

1. All that damage doesn't mean squat if you can't aim the damn thing. The SCR DOES take skill to use; it is not a "fire and forget" weapon.

2. Recoil. SCR's and ASCR's are known to have quite a kick. You have to learn to to counter that, as this and point #1 can directly affect each other.

3. Overheat. Nothing need be said.

TL;DR: Yes, HMG's are gimped atm and the guy who killed your clone knew what he was doing before you even realized what was about to happen.

Well, nearly 1200 on my Standard. Armor and Shield Upgrade Skills are at 5, and I run 1 Comp. Plate for Buffer.

Ive only seen an uprise in Scrambler use after i came back out of retirement, during the first week i saw very little scramblers on the field, now i am starting to see allot more of them.

tough with all Scrambler Rifle skills at V + KBM + 3x complex Damage Mod = Heavy dead in less then a 0.5 seconds, this is
because we lead with a headshot charged shot coupled with 3-4 rapid fire blasts right behind it.

Before you QQ: This weapon has been deemed the most balanced weapon since it came out and you didnt see it a whole lot, because most people can't aim for the life of it, tending to overheat it too much or outright kill themselves with it...

It does become quite deadly in the hands of people who had 20+ years of FPS experience, but we could just grab the AR with 3 damage mods and be even more deadly.

It can also mean that someone wasn't paying attention to their surroundings

^ So much THIS!

This complaint seems weapon specific.

We're talking about the CRW-04 Scrambler Rifle.

Have the tryhards now resorted to using turbo modded controllers with the Scrambler Rifles?

I know they are good weapons and this I don't mind.

I pose this question because I was just in a match, and was killed in my Standard Heavy Suit in about .5 seconds from full HP. I was laying dead on the floor before my HP bars even started to drop.

I have my Shield Upgrade and Armor Upgrade Skills to lvl 5, and was using 1 complex plate for HP buffer.

While I understand it is a powerful weapon, is it really that powerful? It doesn't seem like it should be able to drop me this quickly.

Was this simply due to lag? It didn't seem like I was having difficulties in this regard. Input command was on time, and my framerate was fine.

You probably think I'm just QQing.

EDIT: The person was using a CRW-04 Scrambler Rifle

Changed Title to get more attention.

TL:DR

I got killed by a scrambler rifle in 2 seconds because I thought I could gib him in 2 seconds, he must be using a modded controller, that cheater cheater pumpkin eater!

...and got dropped as if I were in a scout suit.

If one guy is able to drop a heavy this quickly, when inside the heavy's supposed dominant area (indoor cqc) the Heavy suit is underpowered. Shotguns do not even drop me this quickly

Yet another reason Kb/M should not be supported in a console game.

It's a console for F**k's sake !! , how many other FPS's do people whine about not being able to use a keyboard and mouse in , COD MW ?? , BO 2 ?? , Crysis ? etc etc ...


I say even the playing field and make everyone use the controllers made for the console , if you want to use a keyboard and mouse , play on your PC ....

Was the topic changed???
EDIT: didn't read it all...

It's a console for F**k's sake !! , how many other FPS's do people whine about not being able to use a keyboard and mouse in , COD MW ?? , BO 2 ?? , Crysis ? etc etc ...


I say even the playing field and make everyone use the controllers made for the console , if you want to use a keyboard and mouse , play on your PC ....

Your funny... people just spend 60 bux and they use their mouse and keyboard.... Your right this is a console built for gaming... and not everyone has money to buy the latest computer and latest hardware upgrades every few weeks .....

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this CCP does know being very in-tuned with the computer gaming world, knowing the budget gaming box will become the console.

Gamepad is 30 years old.... Mouse and keyboard are so old its on its way out... its not some magical device that has come to replace your game pad....

Pretty soon the control interface will be at your imaginations end... notice hes playing a FPS?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3b4w749Tud8