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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2154
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Posted - 2013.09.20 20:17:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:True Adamance wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Fizzer94 wrote: Question. How far away do the ScR users engage you? If they engage you in the 45-70m range, they win. However if you catch them up close they are toast, unless they can land a charged headshot (which is like the hardest thing to do in close quarters... ever). Its all about how you engage someone that outranges you, far too often I have heavies rush me across open areas, only to be mercilessly gunned down by my ScR. If they were to use cover to close in on me they would likely win the conflict, but they don't... so they lose.
Aero Yassavi wrote:Ah, the Consolidation Matrix. Anyways, keep in mind that this particular situation isn't necessarily a CRW + Prof 3 + 1 Complex DMG > Boundless HMG + Prof 5 + 1 Complex DMG. There are several other factors to consider here. Like 1. You were chasing someone so I got you while you were distracted 2. You were in an open area so could of been getting shot by other people as well 3. I had the high ground making you an easy target, especially for headshots There's a lot more to it than just brute force. I had the clear tactical edge, wouldn't really say that makes the Scrambler Rifle OP. Oh and in case you were wondering since you logged out during the match, the Minmatar did lose. I had just topped the stairs leading up to the objective, and turned to the left to engage an enemy. Aero was waiting on one of the tip in platforms on the outside wall, so probably 20m range. Aero is never without me.... except for this week..... but he is never alone. Never. Thats fine and all, but he was the only enemy shooting at me. This doesn't change the fact that if one guy can drop an almost 1200 HP Heavy in this amount of time, something is off balance. The scrambler rifle is one of the only balanced guns in this game... It has a high DPS but has the additional weaknesses of overheat and low effective shot count.
If he misses any shots he is ****** due to overheat, more than likely he hit you in the head its not that hard with AA these days at close range.
I think the per shot its
75.6 dmg + Aero's 20% I'm assuming knowing him damage module bonuses+ possible head shots is 90 dmg standard and a possible 136 for head shots, or as he normally does, he lead with a charged shot. Then we have to factor in the Shield bonus damage and accout for the negative armour modifier.
He/ Any ScR user probably could have downed you like that very quickly. |
Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
706
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Posted - 2013.09.20 20:52:00 -
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Scrambler Rifle is god, that charge shot is HUGE damage too |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2138
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Posted - 2013.09.20 22:17:00 -
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Skimmed through some of this so going to reply without quoting my references, sorry.
20 meters is a gross underestimation for the distance I was shooting you at. Also whenever you are in the Consolidation Matrix it can be hard to tell how many people are shooting at you, but I can assure you I was never at the matrix by myself.
And actually True sometimes I do run solo, very rarely since we have so many great people in PIE Pub. Whenever I do it's usually just a quick ambush in public contracts though. Can't wait until you get back though, our characters are practically clones of each other in terms of skills, fits, and play styles which makes any scrambler rifle QQ even that much more frustrating for the enemy. Demoralize the opposition, let them know that there is no peace outside of the Lords grace! |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2138
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Posted - 2013.09.20 22:26:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Viktor Zokas wrote:TL:DR
I got killed by a scrambler rifle in 2 seconds because I thought I could gib him in 2 seconds, he must be using a modded controller, that cheater cheater pumpkin eater! Go back and at least read the damn thread before you troll! Thanks you. I mean, you don't hear me complaining about the times I think I can take down a Starter - Medic faster than he can me, yet the militia AR drops me like a fly. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2160
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Posted - 2013.09.20 22:42:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Skimmed through some of this so going to reply without quoting my references, sorry.
20 meters is a gross underestimation for the distance I was shooting you at. Also whenever you are in the Consolidation Matrix it can be hard to tell how many people are shooting at you, but I can assure you I was never at the matrix by myself.
And actually True sometimes I do run solo, very rarely since we have so many great people in PIE Pub. Whenever I do it's usually just a quick ambush in public contracts though. Can't wait until you get back though, our characters are practically clones of each other in terms of skills, fits, and play styles which makes any scrambler rifle QQ even that much more frustrating for the enemy. Demoralize the opposition, let them know that there is no peace outside of the Lords grace! As you say Commander.
I look forwards to returning. But I do have a few more cities in Amarricuh to tour before I can return to the front. |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
206
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Posted - 2013.09.21 10:45:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote: You cannot destroy my mind.
Sure your can! You cannot, for my mind will live on, through those Minmatar who came before and those Minmatar who will be born after. We all are one mind; and we are Free. These things you can never enslave or destroy. Genocide. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
854
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Posted - 2013.09.21 11:19:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote: You cannot destroy my mind.
Sure your can! You cannot, for my mind will live on, through those Minmatar who came before and those Minmatar who will be born after. We all are one mind; and we are Free. These things you can never enslave or destroy. Genocide.
Good luck with that. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
854
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Posted - 2013.09.21 11:21:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Skimmed through some of this so going to reply without quoting my references, sorry.
20 meters is a gross underestimation for the distance I was shooting you at. Also whenever you are in the Consolidation Matrix it can be hard to tell how many people are shooting at you, but I can assure you I was never at the matrix by myself.
And actually True sometimes I do run solo, very rarely since we have so many great people in PIE Pub. Whenever I do it's usually just a quick ambush in public contracts though. Can't wait until you get back though, our characters are practically clones of each other in terms of skills, fits, and play styles which makes any scrambler rifle QQ even that much more frustrating for the enemy. Demoralize the opposition, let them know that there is no peace outside of the Lords grace! It was definitely no more than 35m, this I can assure you. I can also assure you that you were indeed the only one who shot me, because I saw where you were shooting from after I fell, and you were the only one on the platform. The guy I chased up the stairs was the only other guy who had line of sight on me, but he didn't shoot. |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
224
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Posted - 2013.09.26 09:20:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote: You cannot destroy my mind.
Sure your can! You cannot, for my mind will live on, through those Minmatar who came before and those Minmatar who will be born after. We all are one mind; and we are Free. These things you can never enslave or destroy. Genocide. Good luck with that. I'm sure the Amarr could make Reapers if they wanted to, they are the most advanced race after all. The Amarrians were back in space 1000s of years before the other 3 main empires. The only ones still alive that are higher tech than them are the Jovian' and the Sleepers(maybe kinda sorta). |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1392
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Posted - 2013.09.26 10:59:00 -
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Chargeshot followed by a double tap to the head will kill anything in this game |
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