Out of curiosity, how long do you think each one of those line items would take in terms of man hours?

Out of curiosity, how long do you think each one of those line items would take in terms of man hours?

If I had to guess?

30,000 Man Hours for One Outpost.

Out of curiosity, how long do you think each one of those line items would take in terms of man hours?

Holy **** at these responses.

CCP, put the entire vehicle rebalancing back on the shelf and bust out other developments.

These entitled little ungrateful pricks don't deserve balanced vehicles.

For fucks sake.

How about we take whatever weapon and suit you use, nerf it for 6 months, then tell you that we are going to balance it next month. Then, two weeks before, we pull the rug out and say enjoy another couple of weeks of being UP, we don't give a ****.

Would you be happy?

How about if you told the developer you really wanted to be involved in giving them feedback, they said "No, we got this" and then 6 weeks later say, "We shat the bed, you guys want to give us feedback now?"

Would you be content?

I'm going to be honest. That is a weak unfair thing to say (assuming you have sarcasm behind it). You have no right to be dishing out sarcasm this game is nothing more then mediocre (hype/promises mean nothing).

Also to answer your question i've never seen a game with so little progress from beta to release. I'll be honest to say i don't know but its not like efficiency is a strong point for you guys.

Dont insult the little playerbase you have left.

Holy **** at these responses.

CCP, put the entire vehicle rebalancing back on the shelf and bust out other developments.

These entitled little ungrateful pricks don't deserve balanced vehicles.

For fucks sake.

Edit - BTW, what i said is an insult. Asking ONE guy a legit question for "expecting" thousands of hours of manpower of code isn't a ******* insult. It's called being polite. Go ******* yell at your mommy to raise you better if you can't handle a polite response from someone.

Lol@theseresponses. A bunch of children who probably don't know the first thing about game development trying to act like designers.

Seriously guys, the last thing we need is for CCP to rush any more content. No, you're not allowed to be OP again.

Out of curiosity, how long do you think each one of those line items would take in terms of man hours?

Wow, what? FoxFour asked the OP a simple question because it's clear he had seriously unrealistic expectations for what he genuinely believed could be accomplished in a 1-2 month period given the delay and you define that as "insulting the little playerbase they have left"? What the hell? There's a clear disconnect between what the players THINK is easy peazy content that the developers can pop out whenever they want and what's realistically able to be accomplished given man hours / resource allocation and Fox is trying to highlight that fact.

I'm sorry if the truth of things is "weak" and "unfair".

Out of curiosity, how long do you think each one of those line items would take in terms of man hours?

thousands. as for respecs I have no idea how you even begin to code that...

Hmm, didn't the ships, suits, etc. have concept art and some modeling done back at fanfest? If so, then the path to completion is something more like finishing up the modeling and the design element that is "stats/balance". The weapons were apparently usable back in fanfest (referring to the missing rifles here), as the dev talked about how nice they looked and how they felt to play with. That was... May?

So, I would think the amount of man-hours for the missing rifles/pistols specifically (if they already had models and were being play-tested) would be relatively small; it's more a matter of balance, and the theoretical role/range profile/etc. was already talked about in a blog since then. Fanfest was over 4 months ago now.

So, on that logic, the weapons should've have already been released if they were already at the point of being tested and having models back then. It makes you wonder on that point if they just withhold things for balancing purposes, since if they don't really get balanced till after being released to us, it might be quicker to have us in on that element.

The vehicles/suits that are missing weren't modeled/playable at the time of fanfest. So, that's basically 2 missing dropships, 2 missing havs, 2 missing lavs, 2 missing light suits, and 3 missing heavy suits (ignore things like missing MCCs, RDVs, etc. for the moment since those are more cosmetic and impact player experience to a lesser degree.). So, of 11 missing models as of four months ago, how are finished now? Presumably the people making maps aren't the same ones making these models.

I dont see how CCP can be so slow at making single items. Sure maps, and all that will take a long time, but single items themselves take very VERY little. I worked on a dev team and we used the unreal engine (before we switched). It took us (a four man team) about 8 hours to make a new weapon. Now this is without skill coding and such but still.

Really, do tell, I wanna hear the lot!!

We made a chainsaw and I spend 6 hours cutting threw different body parts of cows to get the right sound files for it. It was enjoyable.

And what this was a fully functional weapon, was implementable into your game?
I mean me and a few guys took 80 hours to make a bb gun, with unlimited ammo, and no reload!

I took it as a sarcastic remark.

Yep, we did this a lot, we'd be play testing and one of us would say "hey, know what weapon I'd like to see in game" then we spent a day or two straight working on it, adding it and then play testing the next day. God I miss those guys, RIP Dave. ; __ ;

Well screw my lecturer then ill take lessons from you, whats your game called was it ever released!?

Was called Epic Bar Fight and was never released, our programmer Dave passed away from cancer and we fell apart after that. Was a small indie game, first person melee combat. I was the sound tech / engineer.

Lol@theseresponses. A bunch of children who probably don't know the first thing about game development trying to act like designers.

Seriously guys, the last thing we need is for CCP to rush any more content. No, you're not allowed to be OP again.

Aah!