If this affects you, please keep the post bumped. These issues were the reason that many players quit playing Dust with Uprising 1.0, and they really drain a lot of the fun out of PC.

We found it to be equipment related... We had several matches in PC where we had the other side not show up. We then spammed our max equipment each mercenary could with a supply depot assistance x 16 mercenaries..

The latency and frame rate loss was felt from the inside of the city where the spam was isolated to the MCC spawn location where people where racing LAV's around.

Personally I haven't had a PC match for several patches where the frame rate and latency by the end of the match wasn't something to have to be "tolerated"
A huge reason grenade spam in PC's have become so prevalent is because they still somewhat perform under those circumstances... Where non explosive weaponry is left under performing in most circumstances.

SSD's seem to also improve the immediate performance losses others experience. for what ever technical reason I am not savy to.

A player made a comparison video between public matches and PC matches.. And from asked around is the consensus an average PC user get's when playing in those matches.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRUPRUJ0wIQ

Thanks for the heads up, I will pass this along and see if others are aware of it.

If you know others having this problem can you please get them to post here. The more people sharing will help a lot. :)

Had painfully bad lag last night in a PC vs Dark legion. The beginning half of the match was fine, but then the end half I couldn't move anywhere I had to sit it out almost. As bad as 1 FPS for sure. I was with a full team of SVER, it was around 22:00 GMT (UK time) and my details and texture is on low, there weren't that many uplinks and comms wasn't even too bad either.

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We had at least one member who could do nothing the entire battle to. In this case though I don't think it was from uplink/nanohive spam. It's not the only cause but it's a major one IMO. Regarding connection i'm not sure since it seems some people are more prone to it then others.

Don't think its the internet connection. i have a 50mbps adsl connection, never had any trouble with any game and for the last few days the lag in dust has been very intence for me. Had to stop playing a few times and to tell the truth it hasn't been this bad since beta, so imo ccp needs to get there act together and fix it asap.

We have people looking into it, but please do keep giving feedback. Anything can be useful in tracking these type of things down.

Do you experience it more with lots of uplinks/nanohives?
When you say the city which one? There are a few of them.
Was it a full server?
Were you in a squad?
Were you on voice? If so which channels and with how many people?

There are a multitude of old issues associated with PC battles that have begun to crop up again:

- Very low frame rates, sometimes as low as ~1FPS; Some maps are worse than others

- Players getting kicked from game while experiencing the other listed effects

- Lower frame rates in general, even when not absurd

- Higher latency even on "home" servers



If this affects you, please keep the post bumped. These issues were the reason that many players quit playing Dust with Uprising 1.0, and they really drain a lot of the fun out of PC.

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To reiterate what my corp member had stated, we have found that there are corps out there that are abusing ping timing when fighting in PC's. We have found a member of a specific corp, i.e. kamakazi- TanKer, who has stated that he forces himself to become HOST of the PC, and adds himself and his PC mates to a "Firewall" in order to heighten the ping of the opposing side.

It would be in CCP's best interest to have a centralized PC server to have better ping timing for all members of a PC battle. We apologize for what our corp-mate had stated in the language he had used, he was very upset about this, and was talked to about his posting.

Thank you all for understanding, and good fighting!

Can you give us any specific reproduction steps? We had a hell of a time tracking down the lag last time and it was mostly related to voice chat. Having lots of people on voice was the biggest issue last time.

It took us a long time to figure that out, and it wasn't something we hit with our internal play tests as you guys do it differently than we do.

So yea, if you can give us any details that would be AWESOME! :D

'LAST time'???


this is an every day, damn near ever MATCH occurrence

here's a novel idea.. initiate a spectator mode for devs to pop in on some PC matches, or find some sap that will actually let you play. on the servers we play on, not 'internal' ones...

I really had no idea you guys were so oblivious to an issue that has been at the forefront of all things PC since, o, I dunno.. May

[BUG] Persistent Planetary Conquest framerate issues - https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=115264
Status: Ongoing investigation is ongoing.

For reference -

10 Months ago - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTVIChCepvs

8 Months ago - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V17grt9ijrs

6 Months ago -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKlGMq-QA8w

JUST A WEEK AGO -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxip2n9VXjo

I Urge you to watch the last one. CCP your game has game breaking bugs and issues.


EDIT - Can we get any confirmation if people with SSD or Upgraded / big buffer fast 7200+ rpm hdd have this same issue?

People have been saying upgrading to SSD removes this issue, standard slow hdd may be the issue. OR rather the issue is that the game is simply asking too much of the system.

Can you give us any specific reproduction steps? We had a hell of a time tracking down the lag last time and it was mostly related to voice chat. Having lots of people on voice was the biggest issue last time.

It took us a long time to figure that out, and it wasn't something we hit with our internal play tests as you guys do it differently than we do.

So yea, if you can give us any details that would be AWESOME! :D

we can ALL agree that gameplay in PC is pathetic. providing the highest competition on the game in the absolute worst conditions on the game IS what has made MANY people leave, and many more (like myself) to really not have any interest in PC

I think the fps drops are due to overuse of nanohives & uplinks.
In PC battles they are everywhere, the game has to render that pulse they emit.
The game chugs when it has to render 50+ pulses at once.

CCP canceled our Thunderdome match last night.



I wanted to get my ass kicked in some Knife 1v1s.

Even though it prolly isn't the only reason, there's no need to have that kind of fancy-pansy soap bubble effect for hives.

It's simply happening in every PC match to seemingly random players. This includes players who restarted their entire systems immediately prior to the match.

We are putting 16 players into team chat, and we're not able to mute people because of the mic bubble bug that randomly makes it so that people who are active in voice chat on a channel don't necessarily have a voice bubble and thus can't be muted.


In terms of reproduction, though, that's the extent of it. Certainly even if the frame rate isn't soul-crushingly bad, the performance is still kinda woeful compared to your typical pub match.