I know every run of the mill merc can easily create a corp.I also know not every company is successeful.
I have created and disbanded countless corps.
let's face facts you can't be successful by recruiting every member in local chat (which is impossible)
nobody on the forums will acknowledge recruitment threads. if they do, they make their own thread reducing chances even more.

Conclusion #1. there will be no more big corps out like true blood or dust university
Conclusion #2. my fast food corp will always have 1 member (me)
Concussion#3. this thread will most likely be bumped before anyone reads it

I know every run of the mill merc can easily create a corp.I also know not every company is successeful.
I have created and disbanded countless corps.
let's face facts you can't be successful by recruiting every member in local chat (which is impossible)
nobody on the forums will acknowledge recruitment threads. if they do, they make their own thread reducing chances even more.

Conclusion #1. there will be no more big corps out like true blood or dust university
Conclusion #2. my fast food corp will always have 1 member (me)
Concussion#3. this thread will most likely be bumped before anyone reads it

Befriend noobs. Give them ISK to help them buy skill books. Squad up with them. Teach them tactics; help them make wise SP choices, and answer their questions. This will help you build a corp. it's going to take a lot of blood/sweat/tears to reach a decent size though. Good luck.

In before forum sinkage

I understand your frustration, though I think more big corps will rise in time. Diversity in the corps out there would be good, this is not to say that they are all the same, but there are certainly trends. I think if it were easier to meet new players it may help. I have been tossing around ideas in my head on what may help get people into my corp before starting to actively recruit.

I know every run of the mill merc can easily create a corp.I also know not every company is successeful.
I have created and disbanded countless corps.
let's face facts you can't be successful by recruiting every member in local chat (which is impossible)
nobody on the forums will acknowledge recruitment threads. if they do, they make their own thread reducing chances even more.

Conclusion #1. there will be no more big corps out like true blood or dust university
Conclusion #2. my fast food corp will always have 1 member (me)
Concussion#3. this thread will most likely be bumped before anyone reads it

Sver started from nothing... try not to disband but stay around. No one expects to be the best corp, I joined for fun and somehow got ranked in 1st. It takes a lot of time Amazon, Microsoft, Apple none of these where build in a day, but they stood the test of time. That's all you really need to do and everything will take care of itself. Trust me.

Actually SVER is one of the factions that you select in MAG. They just happened to get all the best players and dominate

No they just happened to get all of the players.

RAVEN Industries mate we were back in the early days the boss faction.

You listed three conclusions about a problem. Any suggestions on solutions?

Players joining corporations is a huge thing for us, its something we really want to encourage. Not only does it tend to mean people stick around in the game longer, it tends to mean having more fun. Hell I have a lot more fun while in a corporation.

Correction noted. Thanks.

You gotta start somewhere. With the tax rate, your startup corporation can be a savings account until you acquire members. Yes I am Mr. Brightside

idk maybe when someone joins a new corp he'll get some kind of present (modules, suits, weapons)... of course with a limitation so you can't exploit this by leaving and joining coprs over and over again.

As per FoxFour's request, suggestions:

1. Streamlined corp finder which gives a number of parameters a corp can fill out and a player to search for. For instance, a corp can fill out any faction allegiances for FW, a time frame they are most active, mic requirements, age requirements, etc and then the players can search for corps using these parameters as well as narrowing down the search by tax rates, players, etc.

2. More things for corps to do, perhaps even a matchmaking system for corps where battles take place in instant battles. Perhaps separate it into three groups - 4v4, 8v8, and 16v16 - then you simply form up your squad of however many players you prefer (this means we'll have to wait for the team deploy feature) and it finds another corp for you to compete against.

3. More benefits to corps. You know one thing a lot of corps want? Their own warbarge. How sweet would it be if you could purchase your own (stealth cloaked ) warbarge that you go to instead of going to the Merc HQ. I mean, you want to try to promote a social environment yet every time we log in we are in an isolated room by ourselves. Add a corp room, as simple as copying the current warbarge, and people will think its cool and want to join a corp for it. If EVE players don't like the thought of this then fine, in the case of EVE-Dust cross corps only do this for the Dust side players.

4. Quick navigation to apply to corporations. Searching for a corporation can take awhile, and even with the idea proposed in point 1 it can still be a bit tedious. But what if you are playing a match and meet some cool people in a corp and think, "Dang, I'd like to join that corp." Well how about when you select their name on the player lists there is a new option, "Apply to this player's corp."

5. Online players love customization beyond no other. Why not allow players to customize their dropsuits and vehicles, maybe even weapons, with their corp colors and logos? People not in a corp will get jealous and want to join, I promise.

6. Allow corp members to put their assets into the corporate assets, then the CEO and directors can determine who has access to corp assets.

You listed three conclusions about a problem. Any suggestions on solutions?

Players joining corporations is a huge thing for us, its something we really want to encourage. Not only does it tend to mean people stick around in the game longer, it tends to mean having more fun. Hell I have a lot more fun while in a corporation.

You listed three conclusions about a problem. Any suggestions on solutions?

You listed three conclusions about a problem. Any suggestions on solutions?

Players joining corporations is a huge thing for us, its something we really want to encourage. Not only does it tend to mean people stick around in the game longer, it tends to mean having more fun. Hell I have a lot more fun while in a corporation.

No they just happened to get all of the players.

RAVEN Industries mate we were back in the early days the boss faction.

As per FoxFour's request, suggestions:

1. Streamlined corp finder which gives a number of parameters a corp can fill out and a player to search for. For instance, a corp can fill out any faction allegiances for FW, a time frame they are most active, mic requirements, age requirements, etc and then the players can search for corps using these parameters as well as narrowing down the search by tax rates, number of players, etc.

2. More things for corps to do, perhaps even a matchmaking system for corps where battles take place in instant battles. Perhaps separate it into three groups - 4v4, 8v8, and 16v16 - then you simply form up your squad of however many players you prefer (this means we'll have to wait for the team deploy feature) and it finds another corp for you to compete against.

3. More benefits to corps. You know one thing a lot of corps want? Their own warbarge. How sweet would it be if you could purchase your own (stealth cloaked ) warbarge that you go to instead of going to the Merc HQ. I mean, you want to try to promote a social environment yet every time we log in we are in an isolated room by ourselves. Add a corp room, as simple as copying the current warbarge, and people will think its cool and want to join a corp for it. If EVE players don't like the thought of this then fine, in the case of EVE-Dust cross corps only do this for the Dust side players.

4. Quick navigation to apply to corporations. Searching for a corporation can take awhile, and even with the idea proposed in point 1 it can still be a bit tedious. But what if you are playing a match and meet some cool people in a corp and think, "Dang, I'd like to join that corp." Well how about when you select their name on the player lists there is a new option, "Apply to this player's corp."

5. Online players love customization beyond no other. Why not allow players to customize their dropsuits and vehicles, maybe even weapons, with their corp colors and logos? People not in a corp will get jealous and want to join, I promise.

6. Allow corp members to put their assets into the corporate assets, then the CEO and directors can determine who has access to corp assets.

I know every run of the mill merc can easily create a corp.I also know not every company is successeful.
I have created and disbanded countless corps.
let's face facts you can't be successful by recruiting every member in local chat (which is impossible)
nobody on the forums will acknowledge recruitment threads. if they do, they make their own thread reducing chances even more.

Conclusion #1. there will be no more big corps out like true blood or dust university
Conclusion #2. my fast food corp will always have 1 member (me)
Concussion#3. this thread will most likely be bumped before anyone reads it

You listed three conclusions about a problem. Any suggestions on solutions?

Players joining corporations is a huge thing for us, its something we really want to encourage. Not only does it tend to mean people stick around in the game longer, it tends to mean having more fun. Hell I have a lot more fun while in a corporation.

You listed three conclusions about a problem. Any suggestions on solutions?

Players joining corporations is a huge thing for us, its something we really want to encourage. Not only does it tend to mean people stick around in the game longer, it tends to mean having more fun. Hell I have a lot more fun while in a corporation.

You listed three conclusions about a problem. Any suggestions on solutions?

Players joining corporations is a huge thing for us, its something we really want to encourage. Not only does it tend to mean people stick around in the game longer, it tends to mean having more fun. Hell I have a lot more fun while in a corporation.

You listed three conclusions about a problem. Any suggestions on solutions?

Players joining corporations is a huge thing for us, its something we really want to encourage. Not only does it tend to mean people stick around in the game longer, it tends to mean having more fun. Hell I have a lot more fun while in a corporation.

Maybe if there was something a corp could focus on other than being THE BESTEST CORP EVARRR, we might get somewhere.

I mean, on Eve, we have nullsec corps, wormhole corps, industrial corps, mercenary corps, griefing corps, incursion corps, freighter corps... There's variation. There's things to do. In Dust we're given one option - shoot the redberry.

You listed three conclusions about a problem. Any suggestions on solutions?

Players joining corporations is a huge thing for us, its something we really want to encourage. Not only does it tend to mean people stick around in the game longer, it tends to mean having more fun. Hell I have a lot more fun while in a corporation.

Solution!
Make better use of that big-as* starmap!
Make PC more meaningful!

Small corps w/aggregate enlisted SP < X participate in PC in Sector A.
Medium corps w/aggregate enlisted SP > X participate in PC Sector AA.
Large/Vet corps w/aggregate SP >> X participate in PC Sector AAA.

^ This would:
1) Keep vet corps from being d*cks and/or "policing" lesser corps (i.e. dictating who can fight who).
2) Encourage bands of buddies to branch out from super-massive corps to form new identity among peers.
3) Add depth to corp progression (i.e. we've been promoted to sector AA, so we're selling sector A holdings).
4) Lessen the likelihood of blue donuts.
5) Mitigate the negative morale impact of imbalanced warfare.


* Also, buff Scout Suits. This will solve everything. Somehow. I'm sure. :-)

You listed three conclusions about a problem. Any suggestions on solutions?

Players joining corporations is a huge thing for us, its something we really want to encourage. Not only does it tend to mean people stick around in the game longer, it tends to mean having more fun. Hell I have a lot more fun while in a corporation.

I have a sort of sollution.

If everyone who can remember when dust went from closed to open beta we had a large influx of new players allowing smaller corps to recruit said new players . Another large influx of new players also occured after the move from open beta to full release.
The main problem I see is not only player rettention (another time) , but player recrutment.

The main reason I believe ccp is not pulling in as many players is because of simple lack of advertisement I.e. has any one ever see a tv advert ir poster in a bus shelter or bill board advert has anyone heard a radio advert? A little bit of money into proper advettising would help bring allot of new players and thusly people to recruit for the smaller corps.

I just cant believe your lack of advertisement out side of cleichy wee groups im goint to leave tou a wee thought



If you build it they will come .
If you build it and tell every one about it they will ckme in masses.

Yea...and no. Sure this would bring in more players but do your really want more cry babies, noobs, and frustrated naturals here?
I say wait and let the game get better b4 using adverts to attract more players. If they use the current trailers to attract via TV than more players would just be P***** when they see it's not real (yet).


Patience is a virtue and faith can move mountains. Lets just pray we don't have to wait too long for something better.
(a little music cuz I'm bored)

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`Sigh. Just another fun game of DUST.

You listed three conclusions about a problem. Any suggestions on solutions?

Players joining corporations is a huge thing for us, its something we really want to encourage. Not only does it tend to mean people stick around in the game longer, it tends to mean having more fun. Hell I have a lot more fun while in a corporation.

Squad and Corp Finders would be a great starting set of tools.

You listed three conclusions about a problem. Any suggestions on solutions?

Players joining corporations is a huge thing for us, its something we really want to encourage. Not only does it tend to mean people stick around in the game longer, it tends to mean having more fun. Hell I have a lot more fun while in a corporation.

No they just happened to get all of the players.

RAVEN Industries mate we were back in the early days the boss faction.

You listed three conclusions about a problem. Any suggestions on solutions?

Players joining corporations is a huge thing for us, its something we really want to encourage. Not only does it tend to mean people stick around in the game longer, it tends to mean having more fun. Hell I have a lot more fun while in a corporation.

You listed three conclusions about a problem. Any suggestions on solutions?

Players joining corporations is a huge thing for us, its something we really want to encourage. Not only does it tend to mean people stick around in the game longer, it tends to mean having more fun. Hell I have a lot more fun while in a corporation.

You listed three conclusions about a problem. Any suggestions on solutions?

Players joining corporations is a huge thing for us, its something we really want to encourage. Not only does it tend to mean people stick around in the game longer, it tends to mean having more fun. Hell I have a lot more fun while in a corporation.

You listed three conclusions about a problem. Any suggestions on solutions?

Players joining corporations is a huge thing for us, its something we really want to encourage. Not only does it tend to mean people stick around in the game longer, it tends to mean having more fun. Hell I have a lot more fun while in a corporation.

I know every run of the mill merc can easily create a corp.I also know not every company is successeful.
I have created and disbanded countless corps.
let's face facts you can't be successful by recruiting every member in local chat (which is impossible)
nobody on the forums will acknowledge recruitment threads. if they do, they make their own thread reducing chances even more.

Conclusion #1. there will be no more big corps out like true blood or dust university
Conclusion #2. my fast food corp will always have 1 member (me)
Concussion#3. this thread will most likely be bumped before anyone reads it

You listed three conclusions about a problem. Any suggestions on solutions?

Players joining corporations is a huge thing for us, its something we really want to encourage. Not only does it tend to mean people stick around in the game longer, it tends to mean having more fun. Hell I have a lot more fun while in a corporation.

Solution!
Make better use of that big-as* starmap!
Make PC more meaningful!

Small corps w/aggregate enlisted SP < X participate in PC in Sector A.
Medium corps w/aggregate enlisted SP > X participate in PC Sector AA.
Large/Vet corps w/aggregate SP >> X participate in PC Sector AAA.

^ This would:
1) Keep vet corps from being d*cks and/or "policing" lesser corps (i.e. dictating who can fight who).
2) Encourage bands of buddies to branch out from super-massive corps to form new identity among peers.
3) Add depth to corp progression (i.e. we've been promoted to sector AA, so we're selling sector A holdings).
4) Lessen the likelihood of blue donuts.
5) Mitigate the negative morale impact of imbalanced warfare.


* Also, buff Scout Suits. This will solve everything. Somehow. I'm sure. :-)

You listed three conclusions about a problem. Any suggestions on solutions?

Players joining corporations is a huge thing for us, its something we really want to encourage. Not only does it tend to mean people stick around in the game longer, it tends to mean having more fun. Hell I have a lot more fun while in a corporation.

Mag used to have a system where if you got somany kills a rocking tune would start playing and continue while you did . I used to love it going nearly whole rounds of sabo with it on in the background.

You listed three conclusions about a problem. Any suggestions on solutions?

Players joining corporations is a huge thing for us, its something we really want to encourage. Not only does it tend to mean people stick around in the game longer, it tends to mean having more fun. Hell I have a lot more fun while in a corporation.

Raise passive SP for players in corps

another problem is that only corp owners check the recruitment thread to recruit while the people who already have a corp take their business elsewhere. the real problem is that i'm too little too late there are already huge corps hogging up players
example: McDonalds is no.1 while a fast food place opened down the street and nobody goes to the new place.

i encourage as many people as possible to check the recruitment thread. and hopefully search (MCDUSTDONALDS)

You listed three conclusions about a problem. Any suggestions on solutions?

Players joining corporations is a huge thing for us, its something we really want to encourage. Not only does it tend to mean people stick around in the game longer, it tends to mean having more fun. Hell I have a lot more fun while in a corporation.

You listed three conclusions about a problem. Any suggestions on solutions?

Players joining corporations is a huge thing for us, its something we really want to encourage. Not only does it tend to mean people stick around in the game longer, it tends to mean having more fun. Hell I have a lot more fun while in a corporation.

*sigh* yet another person who thinks that just because he made something people should want to be involved in it.

You have to offer people something to get them interested. If you have only yourself, what can you possibly offer? Most corps that succeed come from people that already knew each other before they formed or found each other in game and were already playing a lot together anyway. That or they were already in a corp together and split off to form a new one.

Once you've got enough people in your corp to form a squad, you can start showing off your corp by filling the top 6 on each scoreboard in matches. Look out for people in pub games who are in starter corps and do well or at least try. Message them directly and tell them about your corp - note: they are unlikely to be impressed by a one man corp but it's still worth trying. Shout outs on local are next to useless and IMHO look pretty desperate and lame.

Basically, get some friends. Find people to play with regularly and then make a corp. Always keep in mind what other people are thinking - why would they want to join your corp? If you can answer that, you're halfway to solving your recruitment problem.

Why not add an option to become a sub-corp, it will partially solve the problem that we can't forge or join alliances in dust.
Also the name of the alliance or a symbol should be added in the player info, i want to recognize my alliance mates when i enter a match.

For example: I'm the CEO of NBH and i want to "buy" a sub-corp.
I'll negotiate the price with the CEO of this corp and i buy it, he will have total control on his own corp, but he will be related to me.
My corp will gain a little % of his corp taxes (from 5 to 20 percent, calculated on the taxes).
As a sub corp he can buy other sub corps.
Corp trees should be showed somewhere in tab when we press info on a corp.

i never said people should join (even though i want them to) all i'm trying to say is that recruitment is dead right now and will continue to be dead unless a miracle happens. like a major corp with a thousand members being disbanded.

You listed three conclusions about a problem. Any suggestions on solutions?

Players joining corporations is a huge thing for us, its something we really want to encourage. Not only does it tend to mean people stick around in the game longer, it tends to mean having more fun. Hell I have a lot more fun while in a corporation.

Having some real people skills is critically important for any Corporation to not only get new players in but stay together once they're in. Conflict Resolution, Charisma, Well Spoken, Sociable, Confidence, Agentable, Enabler, Leadership, Solidarity are just a drop in the bucket of what you need. It's really hard to run a corp I been forced to run two in my time in Eve when my natural characteristics forced me into being in charge because nobody else would step up. I was poorly armed with knowledge back then and had I had maybe even one Eve year under my belt those corps may still be around today or at least outlasted the wars that ended them.

Funny thing about leadership is when people start to recognize you as one they have funny ways of forcing you to lead.

Maybe if there was something a corp could focus on other than being THE BESTEST CORP EVARRR, we might get somewhere.

I mean, on Eve, we have nullsec corps, wormhole corps, industrial corps, mercenary corps, griefing corps, incursion corps, freighter corps... There's variation. There's things to do. In Dust we're given one option - shoot the redberry.

Maybe if there was something a corp could focus on other than being THE BESTEST CORP EVARRR, we might get somewhere.

I mean, on Eve, we have nullsec corps, wormhole corps, industrial corps, mercenary corps, griefing corps, incursion corps, freighter corps... There's variation. There's things to do. In Dust we're given one option - shoot the redberry.

Having some real people skills is critically important for any Corporation to not only get new players in but stay together once they're in. Conflict Resolution, Charisma, Well Spoken, Sociable, Confidence, Agentable, Enabler, Leadership, Solidarity are just a drop in the bucket of what you need. It's really hard to run a corp I been forced to run two in my time in Eve when my natural characteristics forced me into being in charge because nobody else would step up. I was poorly armed with knowledge back then and had I had maybe even one Eve year under my belt those corps may still be around today or at least outlasted the wars that ended them.

Funny thing about leadership is when people start to recognize you as one they have funny ways of forcing you to lead.

I suggest the 3 step plan:

1. Join an existing corp
2.Make lots of friends that are generally good
3. Leadership goes wrong, then take all the friends you made and start own corp.

Raise passive SP for players in corps

I know every run of the mill merc can easily create a corp.I also know not every company is successeful.
I have created and disbanded countless corps.
let's face facts you can't be successful by recruiting every member in local chat (which is impossible)
nobody on the forums will acknowledge recruitment threads. if they do, they make their own thread reducing chances even more.

Conclusion #1. there will be no more big corps out like true blood or dust university
Conclusion #2. my fast food corp will always have 1 member (me)
Concussion#3. this thread will most likely be bumped before anyone reads it

You listed three conclusions about a problem. Any suggestions on solutions?

Players joining corporations is a huge thing for us, its something we really want to encourage. Not only does it tend to mean people stick around in the game longer, it tends to mean having more fun. Hell I have a lot more fun while in a corporation.

Currently there is no benefit to being in a corp, in fact now that they added a tax - there is more of a negative. This will change but still, people have mentioned shares - which might promote some.

I think the main problem is how to get your recruitment out there - the channel is swamped by EVE spammers.

Corps should be able to have a recruit card with logo, time played, time zone, description of goals. Then Dust players looking for a corp can just browse the corp's with open recruit cards and pick the one they like.

Fixing the problem of:
1. finding people in the right time zone
2. finding players playing the same time as you
3. finding a corp that matches your goals and direction.

This is how you get AE and my corp, I pulled a decent number of good players, but one of my directors wasn't around and able to pull members from D-Uni, Also I call dibs on Charolette when they're done in D-Uni, I should have had a person in IO too to do this...