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Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS
8
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Posted - 2013.09.15 02:58:00 -
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I know every run of the mill merc can easily create a corp.I also know not every company is successeful. I have created and disbanded countless corps. let's face facts you can't be successful by recruiting every member in local chat (which is impossible) nobody on the forums will acknowledge recruitment threads. if they do, they make their own thread reducing chances even more.
Conclusion #1. there will be no more big corps out like true blood or dust university Conclusion #2. my fast food corp will always have 1 member (me) Concussion#3. this thread will most likely be bumped before anyone reads it |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
3465
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Posted - 2013.09.15 03:01:00 -
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Maybe if there was something a corp could focus on other than being THE BESTEST CORP EVARRR, we might get somewhere.
I mean, on Eve, we have nullsec corps, wormhole corps, industrial corps, mercenary corps, griefing corps, incursion corps, freighter corps... There's variation. There's things to do. In Dust we're given one option - shoot the redberry. |
Raven Shadowkill
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
5
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Posted - 2013.09.15 03:02:00 -
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Being unable to recruit players to a random no name corp is pretty much the same in any other game. You will only gather friends and newbs at first. Build on what you have, dont worry about having some gigantic corp as a lack of corp focus will get you nowhere.
As for other large corps never popping up... Youll be surprised at how things can change. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1058
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Posted - 2013.09.15 03:05:00 -
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You gotta start somewhere. With the tax rate, your startup corporation can be a savings account until you acquire members. Yes I am Mr. Brightside |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
75
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Posted - 2013.09.15 03:06:00 -
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In before forum sinkage
I understand your frustration, though I think more big corps will rise in time. Diversity in the corps out there would be good, this is not to say that they are all the same, but there are certainly trends. I think if it were easier to meet new players it may help. I have been tossing around ideas in my head on what may help get people into my corp before starting to actively recruit. |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
251
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Posted - 2013.09.15 03:08:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:I know every run of the mill merc can easily create a corp.I also know not every company is successeful. I have created and disbanded countless corps. let's face facts you can't be successful by recruiting every member in local chat (which is impossible) nobody on the forums will acknowledge recruitment threads. if they do, they make their own thread reducing chances even more. Conclusion #1. there will be no more big corps out like true blood or dust university Conclusion #2. my fast food corp will always have 1 member (me) Concussion#3. this thread will most likely be bumped before anyone reads it I see you in local chat all the time, you never even try to recruit. How about you make an alt, go into the academy, and recruit n00bs from there. |
Vell0cet
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
213
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Posted - 2013.09.15 03:16:00 -
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Befriend noobs. Give them ISK to help them buy skill books. Squad up with them. Teach them tactics; help them make wise SP choices, and answer their questions. This will help you build a corp. it's going to take a lot of blood/sweat/tears to reach a decent size though. Good luck. |
Athena Sentinel
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
23
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Posted - 2013.09.15 03:18:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:I know every run of the mill merc can easily create a corp.I also know not every company is successeful. I have created and disbanded countless corps. let's face facts you can't be successful by recruiting every member in local chat (which is impossible) nobody on the forums will acknowledge recruitment threads. if they do, they make their own thread reducing chances even more. Conclusion #1. there will be no more big corps out like true blood or dust university Conclusion #2. my fast food corp will always have 1 member (me) Concussion#3. this thread will most likely be bumped before anyone reads it
Recruitment is key and will be focused through EVE more then Dust.. as I imagine only EVE players will play it. |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
251
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Posted - 2013.09.15 03:19:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:Befriend noobs. Give them ISK to help them buy skill books. Squad up with them. Teach them tactics; help them make wise SP choices, and answer their questions. This will help you build a corp. it's going to take a lot of blood/sweat/tears to reach a decent size though. Good luck. The only problem with that is...NOOBS DON'T HAVE MICS |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1058
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Posted - 2013.09.15 03:20:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:In before forum sinkage
I understand your frustration, though I think more big corps will rise in time. Diversity in the corps out there would be good, this is not to say that they are all the same, but there are certainly trends. I think if it were easier to meet new players it may help. I have been tossing around ideas in my head on what may help get people into my corp before starting to actively recruit.
Well, I could be wrong, but I believe diversity is an old, old wooden ship that was used during the Civil War era. |
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
8451
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Posted - 2013.09.15 03:30:00 -
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Having some real people skills is critically important for any Corporation to not only get new players in but stay together once they're in. Conflict Resolution, Charisma, Well Spoken, Sociable, Confidence, Agentable, Enabler, Leadership, Solidarity are just a drop in the bucket of what you need. It's really hard to run a corp I been forced to run two in my time in Eve when my natural characteristics forced me into being in charge because nobody else would step up. I was poorly armed with knowledge back then and had I had maybe even one Eve year under my belt those corps may still be around today or at least outlasted the wars that ended them.
Funny thing about leadership is when people start to recognize you as one they have funny ways of forcing you to lead. |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
729
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Posted - 2013.09.15 03:53:00 -
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Nothing wrong with solo corps.
No shortage of work over here.
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
605
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Posted - 2013.09.15 04:07:00 -
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Its hard at first trust me I've sent countless Pm's maybe getting to the 500-1000 idk but I only have 72 members |
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CCP FoxFour
C C P C C P Alliance
116261
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Posted - 2013.09.15 04:10:00 -
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You listed three conclusions about a problem. Any suggestions on solutions?
Players joining corporations is a huge thing for us, its something we really want to encourage. Not only does it tend to mean people stick around in the game longer, it tends to mean having more fun. Hell I have a lot more fun while in a corporation. Game Designer // Team True Grit http://twitter.com/regnerba |
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Gods Architect
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
433
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Posted - 2013.09.15 04:21:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:I know every run of the mill merc can easily create a corp.I also know not every company is successeful. I have created and disbanded countless corps. let's face facts you can't be successful by recruiting every member in local chat (which is impossible) nobody on the forums will acknowledge recruitment threads. if they do, they make their own thread reducing chances even more. Conclusion #1. there will be no more big corps out like true blood or dust university Conclusion #2. my fast food corp will always have 1 member (me) Concussion#3. this thread will most likely be bumped before anyone reads it Sver started from nothing... try not to disband but stay around. No one expects to be the best corp, I joined for fun and somehow got ranked in 1st. It takes a lot of time Amazon, Microsoft, Apple none of these where build in a day, but they stood the test of time. That's all you really need to do and everything will take care of itself. Trust me. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1065
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Posted - 2013.09.15 04:32:00 -
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Gods Architect wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:I know every run of the mill merc can easily create a corp.I also know not every company is successeful. I have created and disbanded countless corps. let's face facts you can't be successful by recruiting every member in local chat (which is impossible) nobody on the forums will acknowledge recruitment threads. if they do, they make their own thread reducing chances even more. Conclusion #1. there will be no more big corps out like true blood or dust university Conclusion #2. my fast food corp will always have 1 member (me) Concussion#3. this thread will most likely be bumped before anyone reads it Sver started from nothing... try not to disband but stay around. No one expects to be the best corp, I joined for fun and somehow got ranked in 1st. It takes a lot of time Amazon, Microsoft, Apple none of these where build in a day, but they stood the test of time. That's all you really need to do and everything will take care of itself. Trust me.
Actually SVER is one of the factions that you select in MAG. They just happened to get all the best players and dominate |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1985
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Posted - 2013.09.15 04:33:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Gods Architect wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:I know every run of the mill merc can easily create a corp.I also know not every company is successeful. I have created and disbanded countless corps. let's face facts you can't be successful by recruiting every member in local chat (which is impossible) nobody on the forums will acknowledge recruitment threads. if they do, they make their own thread reducing chances even more. Conclusion #1. there will be no more big corps out like true blood or dust university Conclusion #2. my fast food corp will always have 1 member (me) Concussion#3. this thread will most likely be bumped before anyone reads it Sver started from nothing... try not to disband but stay around. No one expects to be the best corp, I joined for fun and somehow got ranked in 1st. It takes a lot of time Amazon, Microsoft, Apple none of these where build in a day, but they stood the test of time. That's all you really need to do and everything will take care of itself. Trust me. Actually SVER is one of the factions that you select in MAG. They just happened to get all the best players and dominate No they just happened to get all of the players.
RAVEN Industries mate we were back in the early days the boss faction. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
8455
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Posted - 2013.09.15 04:33:00 -
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Squad and Corp Finders would be a great starting set of tools. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1065
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Posted - 2013.09.15 04:35:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Gods Architect wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:I know every run of the mill merc can easily create a corp.I also know not every company is successeful. I have created and disbanded countless corps. let's face facts you can't be successful by recruiting every member in local chat (which is impossible) nobody on the forums will acknowledge recruitment threads. if they do, they make their own thread reducing chances even more. Conclusion #1. there will be no more big corps out like true blood or dust university Conclusion #2. my fast food corp will always have 1 member (me) Concussion#3. this thread will most likely be bumped before anyone reads it Sver started from nothing... try not to disband but stay around. No one expects to be the best corp, I joined for fun and somehow got ranked in 1st. It takes a lot of time Amazon, Microsoft, Apple none of these where build in a day, but they stood the test of time. That's all you really need to do and everything will take care of itself. Trust me. Actually SVER is one of the factions that you select in MAG. They just happened to get all the best players and dominate No they just happened to get all of the players. RAVEN Industries mate we were back in the early days the boss faction.
Correction noted. Thanks. |
Nestil
Seraphim Auxiliaries
56
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Posted - 2013.09.15 04:36:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:You listed three conclusions about a problem. Any suggestions on solutions?
Players joining corporations is a huge thing for us, its something we really want to encourage. Not only does it tend to mean people stick around in the game longer, it tends to mean having more fun. Hell I have a lot more fun while in a corporation.
idk maybe when someone joins a new corp he'll get some kind of present (modules, suits, weapons)... of course with a limitation so you can't exploit this by leaving and joining coprs over and over again. |
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Beck Weathers
High-Damage
71
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Posted - 2013.09.15 04:37:00 -
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I join allot of pub matches with a friend or two when my corps having a slow day, Allot of pubies like to squad into our two man squad, either to have some one to talk to, or to help out with WPs for an orbital. I have played with allot of nice chaps liek this and could esialy start recruiting while doing if i was inclined to. THe reverse is also true where i join others squads when im solo, tho these people usualy already have a decent corp. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1985
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Posted - 2013.09.15 04:38:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:True Adamance wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Gods Architect wrote:Soulja Ghostface wrote:I know every run of the mill merc can easily create a corp.I also know not every company is successeful. I have created and disbanded countless corps. let's face facts you can't be successful by recruiting every member in local chat (which is impossible) nobody on the forums will acknowledge recruitment threads. if they do, they make their own thread reducing chances even more. Conclusion #1. there will be no more big corps out like true blood or dust university Conclusion #2. my fast food corp will always have 1 member (me) Concussion#3. this thread will most likely be bumped before anyone reads it Sver started from nothing... try not to disband but stay around. No one expects to be the best corp, I joined for fun and somehow got ranked in 1st. It takes a lot of time Amazon, Microsoft, Apple none of these where build in a day, but they stood the test of time. That's all you really need to do and everything will take care of itself. Trust me. Actually SVER is one of the factions that you select in MAG. They just happened to get all the best players and dominate No they just happened to get all of the players. RAVEN Industries mate we were back in the early days the boss faction. Correction noted. Thanks. I played for SVER as well for a corp Death in Xcess, they are now in dust I believe since I saw them in a pub match. Good game from them.
Admittedly I jumped on the band wagon at the end there..... |
howard sanchez
Sanchez Cartage llc
750
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Posted - 2013.09.15 04:48:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:You gotta start somewhere. With the tax rate, your startup corporation can be a savings account until you acquire members. Yes I am Mr. Brightside This is sorta what I am doing. Sanchez Cartage will, someday, specialize in moving mercs quickly to where they gotta go. Be it via dropship, uplink, MAV or deep space transport.
Until that time I am treating the corp as an entrepreneurial startup...100% tax rate and I don't touch the corp wallet. Since I tracked my personal wallet total upon start up and I buy everything with Howard's funds its easier to track income, expenditures and profit/loss. Once we get corp hangers and the ability to trade gear, i can try things like salary and benefits.
I wish I could tax individual corp members at different rates. It would be like a real salary tool |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
910
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Posted - 2013.09.15 04:56:00 -
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Give reasons for corp to exist besides a way to go into this fancy new game mode.
Therefore, have PC actually matter.
Give us open market.
Give us corp hangers.
Give us industry.
Have districts create these materials to make weapons and gear.
Then, corps have something to be used for besides being fancy and expensive banks.
I understand this is a fart load to add in, but this needs to be done so joining a corp is a new experience, instead of a slight change from pub game.
Please, next expansion pl0x? |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
76
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Posted - 2013.09.15 04:57:00 -
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Nestil wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:You listed three conclusions about a problem. Any suggestions on solutions?
Players joining corporations is a huge thing for us, its something we really want to encourage. Not only does it tend to mean people stick around in the game longer, it tends to mean having more fun. Hell I have a lot more fun while in a corporation. idk maybe when someone joins a new corp he'll get some kind of present (modules, suits, weapons)... of course with a limitation so you can't exploit this by leaving and joining coprs over and over again. I like this idea.... of course if CCP implemented the ability to transfer gear we could give recruits stuff from our salvage pool.... and continue sharing within our corps.... know what i mean |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1724
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Posted - 2013.09.15 04:58:00 -
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As per FoxFour's request, suggestions:
1. Streamlined corp finder which gives a number of parameters a corp can fill out and a player to search for. For instance, a corp can fill out any faction allegiances for FW, a time frame they are most active, mic requirements, age requirements, etc and then the players can search for corps using these parameters as well as narrowing down the search by tax rates, players, etc.
2. More things for corps to do, perhaps even a matchmaking system for corps where battles take place in instant battles. Perhaps separate it into three groups - 4v4, 8v8, and 16v16 - then you simply form up your squad of however many players you prefer (this means we'll have to wait for the team deploy feature) and it finds another corp for you to compete against.
3. More benefits to corps. You know one thing a lot of corps want? Their own warbarge. How sweet would it be if you could purchase your own (stealth cloaked ) warbarge that you go to instead of going to the Merc HQ. I mean, you want to try to promote a social environment yet every time we log in we are in an isolated room by ourselves. Add a corp room, as simple as copying the current warbarge, and people will think its cool and want to join a corp for it. If EVE players don't like the thought of this then fine, in the case of EVE-Dust cross corps only do this for the Dust side players.
4. Quick navigation to apply to corporations. Searching for a corporation can take awhile, and even with the idea proposed in point 1 it can still be a bit tedious. But what if you are playing a match and meet some cool people in a corp and think, "Dang, I'd like to join that corp." Well how about when you select their name on the player lists there is a new option, "Apply to this player's corp."
5. Can't really think of anything else at the moment, but 5 points looks better than 4. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1988
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Posted - 2013.09.15 05:09:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:As per FoxFour's request, suggestions: 1. Streamlined corp finder which gives a number of parameters a corp can fill out and a player to search for. For instance, a corp can fill out any faction allegiances for FW, a time frame they are most active, mic requirements, age requirements, etc and then the players can search for corps using these parameters as well as narrowing down the search by tax rates, players, etc. 2. More things for corps to do, perhaps even a matchmaking system for corps where battles take place in instant battles. Perhaps separate it into three groups - 4v4, 8v8, and 16v16 - then you simply form up your squad of however many players you prefer (this means we'll have to wait for the team deploy feature) and it finds another corp for you to compete against. 3. More benefits to corps. You know one thing a lot of corps want? Their own warbarge. How sweet would it be if you could purchase your own (stealth cloaked ) warbarge that you go to instead of going to the Merc HQ. I mean, you want to try to promote a social environment yet every time we log in we are in an isolated room by ourselves. Add a corp room, as simple as copying the current warbarge, and people will think its cool and want to join a corp for it. If EVE players don't like the thought of this then fine, in the case of EVE-Dust cross corps only do this for the Dust side players. 4. Quick navigation to apply to corporations. Searching for a corporation can take awhile, and even with the idea proposed in point 1 it can still be a bit tedious. But what if you are playing a match and meet some cool people in a corp and think, "Dang, I'd like to join that corp." Well how about when you select their name on the player lists there is a new option, "Apply to this player's corp." 5. Online players love customization beyond no other. Why not allow players to customize their dropsuits and vehicles, maybe even weapons, with their corp colors and logos? People not in a corp will get jealous and want to join, I promise. 6. Allow corp members to put their assets into the corporate assets, then the CEO and directors can determine who has access to corp assets.
DO IT DO IT NAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWW! |
2100 Angels
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
265
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Posted - 2013.09.15 05:55:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:You listed three conclusions about a problem. Any suggestions on solutions?
Players joining corporations is a huge thing for us, its something we really want to encourage. Not only does it tend to mean people stick around in the game longer, it tends to mean having more fun. Hell I have a lot more fun while in a corporation.
When a new player joins the game, have a start up screen outlining the benefits of joining a corp and having a list of available corps? Allow corps under a certain size to be able to be "featured" as "recommended" corps for various new players, possibly based on a range of preference criteria such as meta game/role play decisions made in character creation? Just spitballing here, obviously there's a whole range of options to be set up for a system like this. As was mentioned earlier it would be easier to use if there were criteria in eve like mining, wormholes, nullsec, low sec, freight corps etc, but promoting corps to new players would both enhance their ingame experience and improve recruitment for smaller corps. |
Jade Hasegawa
Intrepidus XI EoN.
120
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Posted - 2013.09.15 06:05:00 -
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I have recruited a couple of ppl from paying with them or from my local chat, 2 of them were not high enough SP for the corp leaders so I advised them to go to Dust Uni :) One of them is now in Hellstorm the other is still with Dust Uni and we keep in touch, when shes ready I will try once again to get he in corp.
While I would have prefered to get the both rather then one end up in Hellstorm, at least she has found a corp and the other player is having fun learning the game:) |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1124
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Posted - 2013.09.15 06:35:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:You listed three conclusions about a problem. Any suggestions on solutions?
Solution! Make use of that big-as* starmap!
Small corps w/aggregate enlisted SP < X participate in PC in Sector A. Medium corps w/aggregate enlisted SP > X participate in PC Sector AA. Large/Vet corps w/aggregate SP >> X participate in PC Sector AAA.
^ This would: 1) Keep vet corps from being d*cks and/or "policing" lesser corps (i.e. dictating who can fight who). 2) Encourage bands of buddies to branch out from super-massive corps to form new identity among peers. 3) Add depth to corp progression (i.e. we've been promoted to sector AA, so we're selling sector A holdings). 4) Lessen the likelihood of blue donuts. 5) Mitigate the negative morale impact of imbalanced warfare.
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