I would love to see players getting increased rewards for their loyalty for playing with a specific faction, however I don't want to lock people into factions.

DUST is meant to be a very social game and I think it is incredibly important that players can play with whoever they want.

For example, it would suck a LOT if you joined one corporation that was in say the Gallente militia and then some friends of yours play Caldari and you couldn't join them or had to jump through hoops just to do it.

1) Even in PC we pay out both sides, I can't see us not doing that for FW.

That shouldn't prevent it from not being turned on. I like the idea of never knowing who is your 'real' ally. Adds an interesting element to the game.

1) Even in PC we pay out both sides, I can't see us not doing that for FW. That being said while raw ISK may be paid out that doesn't mean other things have to be. :)

Not developing factional warfare, as in, no loyalty points or building up / investment will severely hurt you guys in the long run. Fights with friends can be through pubs or planetary conquest, faction warfare should be its own meta game and confine all on its own.

Mercenaries-- they fight for the highest bidder.

Why the hell would a mercenary care what faction their employer is from? They would not!

Having no rewards for the loosing team would make a horrible game.
--Low to mid ranked teams would simply abandon ship and a very few top guilds would sway the entirety of the space map, not just most of it...
--No new teams would ever step foot inside to learn the ins and outs of how to play... it would have no point and no fun because it would be guaranteed losses.

Hes not saying that, you will likely get factional rewards, but at the same time, you don't want people getting locked into a faction cause it sucks if you change your mind! !

You should allow players to fight for any race at any time, but joining a miltia will improve your standings with that race faster!!

You still need a stairway so the non-elite can enjoy the game.

Endlessly being stomped or excluded from aspects of the game is not the way to retain players.

You still need a stairway so the non-elite can enjoy the game.

Endlessly being stomped or excluded from aspects of the game is not the way to retain players.

meh, i would just take my alt to the caldari side and start murdering people.

[ Then FW is not for them. They have Pub matches for that.

FW is for those who are wlling to commit time and resources to fighting for their faction to earn LP and or standing with the faction so they can reap the beenfits.

Casual- Pub Matches

FW and PC- for more dedicated gamers.

1) Even in PC we pay out both sides, I can't see us not doing that for FW. That being said while raw ISK may be paid out that doesn't mean other things have to be. :)

2) Interesting, shall have to think about it. I am a bit tired right now but we had some reasons for not wanting to do that... those reasons may have changed now but as I said, tired... :)

3) Agreed. :)

Those are not my area, but I suppose we could delay the feature until they get done at an unknown point in time...

Then FW is not for them. They have Pub matches for that.

FW is for those who are wlling to commit time and resources to fighting for their faction to earn LP and or standing with the faction so they can reap the beenfits.

Casual- Pub Matches

FW and PC- for more dedicated gamers.

Just so you guys know, giving nothing for losing a match leads to a lot of backlash from MMO players from my experience with DCUO. Mainly people who were previously useless decide to quit if they don't think they can win, then the team and the quitters replacement are disadvantaged and complain. Then they introduced a deserter penalty to address the quitting problem and then no one wanted to play the PVP because it all broke down to team composition and luck.

Now admittedly dust is much better balanced than DCUO but that's just how I'm afraid it would play out.

Foxfour only the winning side in PC gets paid

I would love to see players getting increased rewards for their loyalty for playing with a specific faction, however I don't want to lock people into factions.

DUST is meant to be a very social game and I think it is incredibly important that players can play with whoever they want.

For example, it would suck a LOT if you joined one corporation that was in say the Gallente militia and then some friends of yours play Caldari and you couldn't join them or had to jump through hoops just to do it.

Sorry, I was a bit tired. Both sides get salvage is what I meant.

Then FW is not for them. They have Pub matches for that.

FW is for those who are wlling to commit time and resources to fighting for their faction to earn LP and or standing with the faction so they can reap the beenfits.

Casual- Pub Matches

FW and PC- for more dedicated gamers.

We're not saying exclude players from aspects of the game, we're simply creating tiers of how committed you are. Want to play casually? Join public matches. Have a little more commitment than that and want to form squads and work with EVE players? Join faction matches. Want to control everything between just your corp? Join planetary conquest.

Some people are more worried about ensuring that all players on their side are good... whether or not they are committed... which is somewhat exclusionary if that is the effect.

My own view -- finding ways to allow non-elites access to the full game is more likely to keep player numbers where they should be.

However, yes, of course it would be nice to have crappy players play with other crappy players if that can be done somehow. Everyone hates the random blueberry that screws up the game.

FW is where I'll go for sure. I want good teams against eachother, fighting 'til the last clone!

But what does the random Joe without a squad and no friends in EVE possibly have to gain from FW that he can't achieve from public matches? From my perspective you are not excluding anyone from anything.

And I've said this several times before, yes I'm upset if I lose in FW but I wouldn't get angry if my teammates were at least trying. Since FW is effectively a redundant copy of public matches too often I see solo blue dots hanging out in the redzone sniping or manning pointless turrets and not trying to make a push at all. Making the players in FW have some sort of commitment is far more important than ensuring all the good players are on my side, in my opinion.