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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1980
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Posted - 2013.09.15 03:02:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:The idea that any empire would actually hire some of the lazy peeps that we see enter this low security theater is laughable.
I propose a few things
1) Losers of said match don't get paid at all (free cash win or lose should be a pub thing)
2) Payouts double and triple when an Empire is underrepresented in FW aka is clearly losing eve side.
3) Merit based rewards (salvage/LP), you get rewarded more (or less) based on your history/contributions to the war effort with said factions equipment/weapons.
Thoughts? I do like this.
Militia SYSTEM IN DUST IS A MUST! |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1983
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Posted - 2013.09.15 04:13:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Zero Notion wrote:Shadow Of-Chaos wrote:Cosgar wrote:Turn on friendly fire in FW. meh, i would just take my alt to the caldari side and start murdering people. That shouldn't prevent it from not being turned on. I like the idea of never knowing who is your 'real' ally. Adds an interesting element to the game. Agreed. FW should not degenerate into who has the best team killers. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1984
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Posted - 2013.09.15 04:19:00 -
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Zero Notion wrote:
That's not the point, just a facet of what can happen.
However it cannot and rarely does happen in EVE, this is AWOXING. This should only be possible if the potential is given to kick the player from the match (equivalent to kicking from a fleet thus removing the problem). |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1985
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Posted - 2013.09.15 04:31:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Jetti Daxcide wrote:CCP FoxFour wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:The idea that any empire would actually hire some of the lazy peeps that we see enter this low security theater is laughable.
I propose a few things
1) Losers of said match don't get paid at all (free cash win or lose should be a pub thing)
2) Payouts double and triple when an Empire is underrepresented in FW aka is clearly losing eve side.
3) Merit based rewards (salvage/LP), you get rewarded more (or less) based on your history/contributions to the war effort with said factions equipment/weapons.
Thoughts? 1) Even in PC we pay out both sides, I can't see us not doing that for FW. That being said while raw ISK may be paid out that doesn't mean other things have to be. :) 2) Interesting, shall have to think about it. I am a bit tired right now but we had some reasons for not wanting to do that... those reasons may have changed now but as I said, tired... :) 3) Agreed. :) before you do the third can you bring out mim and amarr vehicles Those are not my area, but I suppose we could delay the feature until they get done at an unknown point in time...
Since you are here CCP Foxfour.... are there any plans to introduce a Dust side Militia Systems like the EVE based system.
As it stands the only reason to stand loyal is for loyalties sake or if you like to RP.... as such no real Dust based efforts come together in a meaningful way.
But either way I love the premise of FW. Its the whole reason I play this game. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1985
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Posted - 2013.09.15 04:47:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:
There are plans yes. No ETA. :)
I'm not interested in the when. Thank you for the confirmation, I am glad that improvements are on the way. I would also hope/ assume that factionalised loot is possibly being added as well.......
By Militia system do you mean to imply a "sign on" system for both individuals and corporations that enforces or ensures player loyalty. Does this system affect faction relations/ standings? |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1998
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Posted - 2013.09.15 13:25:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:You still need a stairway so the non-elite can enjoy the game.
Endlessly being stomped or excluded from aspects of the game is not the way to retain players. Then FW is not for them. They have Pub matches for that.
FW is for those who are wlling to commit time and resources to fighting for their faction to earn LP and or standing with the faction so they can reap the beenfits.
Casual- Pub Matches
FW and PC- for more dedicated gamers. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2030
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Posted - 2013.09.16 16:29:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Crash Monster wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:We're not saying exclude players from aspects of the game, we're simply creating tiers of how committed you are. Want to play casually? Join public matches. Have a little more commitment than that and want to form squads and work with EVE players? Join faction matches. Want to control everything between just your corp? Join planetary conquest. Some people are more worried about ensuring that all players on their side are good... whether or not they are committed... which is somewhat exclusionary if that is the effect. My own view -- finding ways to allow non-elites access to the full game is more likely to keep player numbers where they should be. However, yes, of course it would be nice to have crappy players play with other crappy players if that can be done somehow. Everyone hates the random blueberry that screws up the game. But what does the random Joe without a squad and no friends in EVE possibly have to gain from FW that he can't achieve from public matches? From my perspective you are not excluding anyone from anything. And I've said this several times before, yes I'm upset if I lose in FW but I wouldn't get angry if my teammates were at least trying. Since FW is effectively a redundant copy of public matches too often I see solo blue dots hanging out in the redzone sniping or manning pointless turrets and not trying to make a push at all. Making the players in FW have some sort of commitment is far more important than ensuring all the good players are on my side, in my opinion. Admittedly it really screws things up if some newer player hops into a match, yeah they may well be commited but they are harming their own factions more than helping them.
As Aero has said I too get a bit "Ragey" in FW this is only because whenever we deploy unless I see.
PIE Inc
Immortal Retribution
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I know we neither have dedicated players, nor skilled, nor players likely to try to win. |
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